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    Thumbs up Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

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    Quality costs money. My mother taught me that, and in my own experience in my thirty some-odd years on this earth, she taught me well. It's the rare exception to this rule that surprise me at times... the product that exceeds my expectations and proves that not everything was better in the good old days, and that sometimes it doesn't hurt to be penny wise.

    Before going any further, let me just say that I'm far from the most experienced reviewer in terms of any suspension product. I haven't had the opportunity to experience the myriad of options like Eibach's springs, coilovers from the likes of KW, Bilstein or H&R, or even H&R's own more aggressive springs. What I have driven is my own 2009 A4 2.0T Quattro Sedan with the S-Line package, and the same vehicle equipped with my latest acquisition and the focus of this review: H&R's "OE Sport Springs".

    Based on relatively consistent information, the S-Line package (in the USA) has the same suspension as "Sport Package" equipped cars, and lowers the stance by 20mm (just over 3/4" for the metrically challenged). Based on empirical evidence, that seems accurate. I'm not certain why, but the concept of modifying the suspension of a car I drive regularly always seemed foreign to me. I've participated in various car forums and always hear about folks upgrading their springs, getting 'cup kits', coilovers, etc. I figured I was the smart one - getting the sport suspension on any car I've ordered to avoid this complicated upgrade. After all, the factory offers a sport suspension... can I really improve on that without ruining the ride quality? I've always had my doubts, and I'm not really sure why.

    Anthony recently posted some photos of his car with the H&R OE Sport Springs and followed with a positive review. At the same time, Alex from AWE mentioned that they were having a sale on these springs, pricing them well below any other online retailer I could find. Having read that review, seen the photos, and found a local shop with very reasonable labor rates, I calculated the odds of being dissatisfied and the financial loss if I had to sell the springs, and finally placed an order. Then I waited a week for a drop shipment from H&R and was filled with hope and self-doubt. I'm certain that the worst feeling for any enthusiast is that trepidation felt between the time you click "Place Order" and when the big brown truck finally arrives. It seems to forever, no matter what shipping option you select.

    A few days ago, and only a few days after my order was placed, my H&R OE Sport Springs arrived. I called Diego at AMS Autowerks and confirmed his availability for the next morning. Diego has received some stellar reviews on Audizine's NYC regional forum, and I went to bed that night hoping they were well earned. To be completely honest, the idea of someone potentially mucking up a car that performs so well scared me a bit. Was I making a terrible mistake?

    The installation at AMS went smoothly. Diego really knows his way around these cars and made the job look easy in less than two hours (including some distractions). A quick test drive, payment, and I was out the door riding on new springs. My very first observation while driving back toward the highway was, "Thank God - it still feels and drives like my car." Maybe that sounds crazy, but I wasn't looking for any huge transformation. These springs are a meant to be a subtle upgrade, mainly to give the car a lowered stance. And in that moment, I was just happy to feel my car driving in a familiar way (albeit on unfamiliar roads). On that drive home I was definitely struck my some improvements in the handling, including a really impressive and controlled four-wheel drift on an exit ramp in Secaucus that locals probably know all too well. But it wasn't until Monday that I really began to formulate my opinions on this upgrade.

    It's now Monday night (technically Tuesday morning after 1AM) and I drove out to Long Island today on very familiar roads. I know the locations of potholes that need to be avoided, bumps that can't be avoided, and jarring road imperfections that I hope will one-day be addressed. Of course they won't -- this is New York. But at least I know the speeds to take them without damaging my car or my dental fillings. Today was a really eye-opening experience. I had already come to the conclusion over the weekend that the handling is improved with these new springs. I expected some loss in ride quality. I anticipated that those little road imperfections would become more significant, and I hoped it wouldn't be too much of a change.

    As I exited the 59th Street Bridge (lower level) and merged to the right onto Bridge Plaza South, I slowed slightly. Between 27th Street and 28th Street, the road surface is all concrete slabs, and there are gaps between them wide enough to put your fist through. I've never found a good speed to take these. Today I drove over them as usual, clenching my jaw slightly as I anticipated the "ba bang, ba bang, ba bang" which would clearly be quite a bit worse. To my incredible surprise, it wasn't worse. In fact, it was better - a LOT better! Driving down Van Dam Street, I'm almost ashamed to admit I aimed for a pothole. It's a shallow one on the right side that doesn't "need" to be avoided. It's not a car swallowing chasm... just an annoyance that I've learned to avoid. I hit it square at 25 MPH and was again amazed at the suspension's reaction. It's not like I didn't hit the pothole, but it's a little like I was driving a Lincoln Towncar. Okay, I exaggerate. But the point is, the car is now handling minor and rather significant road imperfections FAR better than previously.

    Hitting the LIE, I was fortunate to not hit any traffic today and got to put the car through its paces a bit. One of my main complaints with the stock S-Line suspension was that it's a little floaty, particularly after quick lane changes. That is, after changing lanes and straightening out, the chassis has a tendency to rock slightly back and forth before settling. I did a few quick lane changes to compare and that's an area that's certainly improved. It's not gone, but I suspect an upgraded rear anti-roll bar may help mitigate what little float remains.

    Another surprise was the reduction in squat and dive. I hadn't really thought previously about how much the car moves forward and back in response to acceleration and deceleration. It didn't exactly bother me, but the car actually feels faster now. I realize it's not - but accelerating from a stop, the car doesn't squat back nearly as much as before, and I feel like I'm just accelerating right away instead of after squatting. It's a much more confidence inspiring feeling as well! Hard braking is similar. As I arrived at my destination with no traffic behind me, I braked hard before making a 90 degree right turn into the parking lot. The car just braked. It didn't consider braking, then dive forward, and then brake - it just did it quickly and without drama. I really like that!

    So was Mom wrong? Did I find a quality product without spending much money? I think I did! In fairness, I followed Anthony's lead, so credit where credit's due. Is this as good an upgrade as coilovers? I doubt it. For one, the springs are not height adjustable, and while the achieved height is very nice, I'd prefer a little more drop up front. That level of adjustment just isn't possible with a spring upgrade. Coilovers are well known for handling small road imperfections very well, so I look forward to making that upgrade at some point down the road. After all, with the NYC roads, you can never handle bad roads too well. In the mean time, I managed to improve the look of the car, improve the handling, and improve the ride... and I did it on a parts budget of about 1/4 that of entry-level coilovers. I'm a happy camper!


    H&R OE Sport Springs
    Part # 29061-1
    List Price: $439, AWE Sale Price: $256 + $13.98 S&H
    AMS Motorwerks Installation: $200

    Measurements:
    Top of wheel well to ground (STOCK):
    Front: 26 7/8"
    Rear: 27"

    Top of wheel well to ground (H&R OE Sport):
    Front: 26 1/4"
    Rear: 26 1/8"

    Deltas:
    Front: Lowered by 5/8" (or ~ 1 3/8" from "stock" non-sport suspension)
    Rear: Lowered by 7/8" (or ~ 1 5/8" from "stock" non-sport suspension)
    Front Spoiler is lowered by 3/8"


    Final Thoughts:
    I noticed in Anthony's review that his car appears to have been lowered by 1" up front, and 3/4" in the rear. As a result his drop looks a little better to my eye, but it's really splitting hairs. It's also difficult to judge photos where one car is black and the other is white. Is it possible that there are manufacturing variations between the springs? Is there anything else that could be causing my fronts to be about 1/4" to 3/8" higher than anticipated? Or my rears to be lower than expected? H&R calls these springs 1.2" lower than stock, but I think 1.5" would be a better approximation.


    - Jason








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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    Woah, that's a good price from AWE, are they still offering that price right now?
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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    Quote Originally Posted by aznpxdd View Post
    Woah, that's a good price from AWE, are they still offering that price right now?
    That price was a real motivating factor for me. They're not on sale now, but at $284.95 it's still a tremendous value.

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    Nice drop/review and congrats on the new springs. BTW ur s4 valence and exhaust look great!
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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    JasonR....

    Don't doubt your review my friend, I apprectiated it very much. Not full of a bunch of technical B.S., but real life experiences.

    I have these springs on my radar as well. I am glad to hear that the car still rides like the S-Line / Sport setup. I too am a daily driver that is looking for more appearance with comfort rather than tracking ability.

    I have the 18's, and plan to keep them for now, so the avant won't look as nice as your after pictures. But I am also going to push out the wheels a bit......
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    This seals it. If you think riding in NYC with it is acceptable, or even good, it should handle Toronto just fine. Great review, btw. Thanks.
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    what a well written review..

    car looks great

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    Great review and thanks very much!

    Nice car!

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    Wow, coming from someone who was a english major.. you can write my friend! Great review, and great pricing.

    Im very confused now though, due to the fact i dont have s-line suspension im thinking of going with the H&R sport springs not the OE sport springs. But now you say the OE's arent 1.2" there really more like 1.5"? The sport springs are rated at 1.5" so if thats the case i wonder if they are closer to a 2" drop? Or maybe since you have the s-line its actually lower and id be fine with the sport springs and no s-line suspension?

    Any reviews comparing OE to non-OE?

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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    Nice review, Jason. I'm not sure how many miles you put on the springs before you took those pictures (same location and angles... nice touch!) and measurements, but expect them to settle a bit lower then when they were initially installed. In my experience, it takes at least a few days and a few hundred miles before you are at the settled ride height.
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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    Quote Originally Posted by g75y View Post
    Great review and thanks very much!

    Nice car!
    Yeah, no joke! I just got the same H&Rs this morning from Tirerack and I'll install them this weekend. I bought a set of the H&R super sports a few months back but after seeing how low it made Sins car I decided to go with these instead

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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    As the others have said, very well written! Certainly more interesting to read than mine.

    I must say, from your "before" photos, the S line suspension sits lower than a Sport.

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    Great review. Thanks,
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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    Finally getting a chance to reply to the thread...
    Quote Originally Posted by TCHUN003 View Post
    Nice drop/review and congrats on the new springs. BTW ur s4 valence and exhaust look great!
    Thanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by MiracleWhips View Post
    Don't doubt your review my friend, I apprectiated it very much. Not full of a bunch of technical B.S., but real life experiences.

    I have these springs on my radar as well. I am glad to hear that the car still rides like the S-Line / Sport setup. I too am a daily driver that is looking for more appearance with comfort rather than tracking ability.

    I have the 18's, and plan to keep them for now, so the avant won't look as nice as your after pictures. But I am also going to push out the wheels a bit......
    Glad you enjoyed it! The springs definitely improve the ride over minor road imperfections, but in the interest of full disclosure, I did hit a larger pothole today that was jarring. I can't say if it was much worse than if I hit the same one before... maybe a little worse. Running on 19s is no party in a city full of potholes. The handling is markedly improved though, and the car looks and rides great. Yesterday I got a big 'Thumbs Up' from a guy crossing the street in front of me in Long Island City, and today there were two women literally circling my car in the parking lot and peering in to see what it was. I suspect the debadging and car wash had a lot to do with that, but the car seems to attract a lot more attention with the new stance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_T View Post
    This seals it. If you think riding in NYC with it is acceptable, or even good, it should handle Toronto just fine. Great review, btw. Thanks.
    Keep in mind I'm comparing it only with the standard S-Line package setup. I do think it's acceptable though. The ride quality kind of feels like a -1 setup (18" wheels with a little more rubber). My previous Audi had the S-Line package and 235/40/18s, and the ride now over small bumps and dips reminds me a lot of that car.
    Quote Originally Posted by LI Audi View Post
    what a well written review..

    car looks great
    Thank you! I got on a roll...
    Quote Originally Posted by g75y View Post
    Great review and thanks very much!

    Nice car!
    Thanks! I'm really enjoying it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nght&Day-B8 View Post
    Wow, coming from someone who was a english major.. you can write my friend! Great review, and great pricing.
    Thank you! That means a lot. My degree is in mathematics, so the fact that I can string a few sentences together is probably a miracle. I'd like to thank my creative writing professors, my highschool English teacher, and of course the Academy. (See - the mathematics of writing -- just string some concepts together in groups of three and it's somehow pleasing. )
    Quote Originally Posted by Nght&Day-B8 View Post
    Im very confused now though, due to the fact i dont have s-line suspension im thinking of going with the H&R sport springs not the OE sport springs. But now you say the OE's arent 1.2" there really more like 1.5"? The sport springs are rated at 1.5" so if thats the case i wonder if they are closer to a 2" drop? Or maybe since you have the s-line its actually lower and id be fine with the sport springs and no s-line suspension?

    Any reviews comparing OE to non-OE?
    Your best bet is probably to grab a tape measure and see how high the fenders are from the ground now. Make sure the car is on a flat even surface (garage floor is probably good though most are not completely flat so that water can drain out to the driveway... so maybe measure once with the car facing in and once facing out, and average them.) Compare your numbers to mine and you'll get some sense of the drop the expect.
    Quote Originally Posted by Blake P View Post
    Nice review, Jason. I'm not sure how many miles you put on the springs before you took those pictures (same location and angles... nice touch!) and measurements, but expect them to settle a bit lower then when they were initially installed. In my experience, it takes at least a few days and a few hundred miles before you are at the settled ride height.
    Thanks! You know, I've read several posts where people say that 'good' springs don't settle, but just as many that say that they all will to a degree. This afternoon I defintely saw that the front of the car is lower than before. I took some quick measurements and I'm pretty sure the front is about 1/8" lower. I'm going to give it a week before measuring again in the same location as before and see where things are at. My own suspicion is that the springs aren't settling so much as the rubber parts are getting broken in, but that's really just a guess.
    Quote Originally Posted by GTurboI View Post
    Yeah, no joke! I just got the same H&Rs this morning from Tirerack and I'll install them this weekend. I bought a set of the H&R super sports a few months back but after seeing how low it made Sins car I decided to go with these instead
    Post some photos and your opinions - definitely curious to see what others think of this setup!
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    As the others have said, very well written! Certainly more interesting to read than mine.

    I must say, from your "before" photos, the S line suspension sits lower than a Sport.
    Thanks! I really enjoyed your review and it was the impetus for my purchase. I'd be curious to see if anyone with a Sport package can measure their ride height at the fenders and let's see how the numbers compare. Maybe the S Line is 30mm lower vs. 20mm for Sport, just as is supposedly the case with ROW cars.
    Quote Originally Posted by jason427 View Post
    Great review. Thanks,
    Jason
    Thank you.

    Thanks everyone for the compliments! I really enjoyed writing the review. I was just in the mood to write something like a 'real' review as you'd see in a magazine, and once the words started flowing it took on a life of its own. I'm glad it wasn't a big waste of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JasonR View Post
    I'd be curious to see if anyone with a Sport package can measure their ride height at the fenders and let's see how the numbers compare.
    Mine is a 6MT 18" sport

    Front - 26 3/8" (Driver) 26 1/2" passenger
    Rear - 26 1/2" (both)

    Yours was :
    26 7/8"
    27"

    So just about 3/8" lower at both ends than yours... I did JUST fill up -- so it's got 14.5 gal = 90 lb of fuel more than it had an hour ago...

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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    Hrmm... well there goes that theory.

    One thing that comes to mind is that the 18" wheels have 245/40/18 tires as a stock size, while the 19s are 255/35/19. The 18" setup is nearly 1/3" smaller (0.31") in diameter than the 19" setup. That would make your car about that much lower than mine assuming the same suspension. Exact tire sizes also vary a bit from one manufacturer to another, or one model to another... so I suspect your Sport package suspension has about the same drop as my S-Line.

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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    Quote Originally Posted by JasonR View Post
    Hrmm... well there goes that theory.

    One thing that comes to mind is that the 18" wheels have 245/40/18 tires as a stock size, while the 19s are 255/35/19. The 18" setup is nearly 1/3" smaller (0.31") in diameter than the 19" setup. That would make your car about that much lower than mine assuming the same suspension. Exact tire sizes also vary a bit from one manufacturer to another, or one model to another... so I suspect your Sport package suspension has about the same drop as my S-Line.

    - Jason
    I think you are right that the S-line/Sport (and ADS cars from what I read) all have the 20mm lower suspension. Agreed that other small variations (and loading) along with the wheel/tire sizes likely account for the difference.

    The 18" 245/40/18 setup being 0.31" smaller in diameter should only drop the ride height by half that amount -- the other half is above the axle where it does nothing but change the fender gap, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by B5_Jim View Post
    The 18" 245/40/18 setup being 0.31" smaller in diameter should only drop the ride height by half that amount -- the other half is above the axle where it does nothing but change the fender gap, right?
    Yup - you're right... wasn't thinking about that. Half that amount is between the axle and the road which raises ride height, and half is between the axle and fender which narrows the gap.

    And I realize that my measurements are all about 1/16" short. I've been using the tape measure in a lazy manner so that the metal end is being pressed against the ground. The deltas all work out fine, but the measurements themselves are a tiny bit lower than the real values.

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    Re: Review: H&R OE Sport Springs

    That's what I needed to hear, awesome review. It seems like this will be my next review

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    i was wondering if theres a reson you use part number 29061-1, h&r web site shows that one for an a5
    when the oe sport springs part number for an a4 is 50361-55.
    thanks

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    ^See my post here.
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    such an enjoyable piece to read. you should be a professional writer who sits at Starbucks everyday hoping people asks 'what are you writing?"

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    So, it's been over 7 years since this review - any impressions on the long term life of these springs?

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