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    Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

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    We expected to hear some mumbo-jumbo about how safety standards and consumer expectations for features and refinement dictate ever-growing curb weights, but Dick's response shocked us: Audi is currently testing a prototype of the next-generation S5 that weighs 880 pounds less than the current car. He outlined the ongoing increase in the use of aluminum, magnesium, and high-strength steel as a main reason behind the mass reduction. The current TT's chassis is 69 percent aluminum, and the next-generation A6 (probably due in 2011 or 2012) will have an even higher proportion, Dick says. The amount for the next A4/A5/S4/S5 will be higher still when they debut, likely as 2014 models.

    Dick also said that the supercharged 3.0-liter V-6 is an "intermediate step" for Audi. The next S4 and S5 will have lighter turbocharged four-cylinder engines. We can look at the TT lineup for direction: the base TT in the U.S. has a 2.0-liter turbo four that makes 200 hp. The TT S has the same basic engine, but makes 265 hp with beefed up internals and a bigger turbo. Future S4 and S5 models will have about 20 percent less weight and up to 30 percent less engine displacement than the current S5, making combined fuel economy in the mid to high 20-mpg range likely.
    Read all of the details in Car & Driver's 2014 Audi S4 and S5 Massively Lighter, To Use Turbo Fours article.

    I can completely understand the notion that weight needs to be significantly reduced, but using turbocharged four-cylinder engines on S- models? Reducing weight is moving one step forward whereas reducing the engine specifications to that degree is moving one step back. That is, unless they intend to use high spec engine internals and a large turbocharger.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Man this story blew up all over the forums today. As I said in another thread, we just need to chill out and wait to see what Audi officially unveils 4ish years from now.

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    Man this story blew up all over the forums today. As I said in another thread, we just need to chill out and wait to see what Audi officially unveils 4ish years from now.
    why? isn't this an Audi forum?

    last time I checked, this kind of chat is a key component of Audizine

    you're suggesting we not talk about a story that is big talk all over the automotive world? hahahahaha...see you in 4 years then

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    I think what Anthony means is for us not to go crazy over something that is 4 years away. Just look at all the "2010 S4 twin turbo" speculation that was going around. Peoples sources had confirmed it and blah blah blah. As you know, the S4 is supercharged so nothing is really confirmed until its release time. We should chill out and not get crazy over 4 cylinder "S" models. And im sure if Audi does go that route, they wont disappoint.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Quote Originally Posted by DannyDeez View Post
    I think what Anthony means is for us not to go crazy over something that is 4 years away. Just look at all the "2010 S4 twin turbo" speculation that was going around. Peoples sources had confirmed it and blah blah blah. As you know, the S4 is supercharged so nothing is really confirmed until its release time. We should chill out and not get crazy over 4 cylinder "S" models. And im sure if Audi does go that route, they wont disappoint.
    Bingo bango. Thanks for expounding upon my words for those needing a little extra help.

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    Bingo bango. Thanks for expounding upon my words for those needing a little extra help.
    No prob.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Audi also said back when DSG first came out that by 2009 the entire lineup would have DSG.

    Let's just say I'm not holding my breath on this one neither.
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    I hear cars will be hovering above the roads in 4 years... discuss...
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony View Post
    Bingo bango. Thanks for expounding upon my words for those needing a little extra help.
    I wasn't unclear on the intent of your comments...I was calling you out on it.

    Very strange, stifling couple of comments from a forum moderator.

    p.s. there are a couple of other threads started on this subject...you'd better run in there to pee on their campfire too!

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Saki, you are just a post whore looking to argue with anyone you can. And you hate to lose :P

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Quote Originally Posted by vinny.dtw View Post
    Saki, you are just a post whore looking to argue with anyone you can. And you hate to lose :P
    no, I'm a guy who buys Audi cars...it's good to hear what's coming. I'm probably as tuned in to what's coming down the pike as anyone on here because I read a fkload of automotive journalism. I just can't understand why mods would try to disuade members from doing that (or why fanboys of the mods would support it!)

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Quote Originally Posted by sakimano View Post
    no, I'm a guy who buys Audi cars...it's good to hear what's coming. I'm probably as tuned in to what's coming down the pike as anyone on here because I read a fkload of automotive journalism. I just can't understand why mods would try to disuade members from doing that (or why fanboys of the mods would support it!)

    i don't think anthony was trying to squash a thread as a "mod"

    i think anthony the person was commenting on the op's post........and you got all **** hurt cause you thought the "mod" was stepping in........ this isn't vortex
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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    haha, I think you misinterpreted the post. And I'm only a fanboy of you saki..you and only you. Since you have your OH SO mighty S4...and i have my million mile super OLD A4...

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Quote Originally Posted by vinny.dtw View Post
    haha, I think you misinterpreted the post. And I'm only a fanboy of you saki..you and only you. Since you have your OH SO mighty S4...and i have my million mile super OLD A4...
    omg...that thing is still running?

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Kind of. Depends on the occasion. Like beating S4 owners? It runs pretty good :P

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    I definitely wasn't intending to stifle any discussion, or I would have simply locked all 4 or 5 threads posted in the wrong forum within the past few days about this topic (like this one).

    Ya needs ta relax, saki. You're coming off like an overly wound-up angry American.

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    Re: Car & Driver: 2014 Audi S4 and S5

    Quote Originally Posted by vinny.dtw View Post
    Kind of. Depends on the occasion. Like beating S4 owners? It runs pretty good :P

    yeah, maybe in a topgear style push-your-own-car race (the little 4 banger comes in handy there)

    Your car looks good. I think silver was the best B6 colour. On the B7 I think maybe black or navy+black trim/gunmetal wheels, a la the Mugello Titanium RS4.

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