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    Hello I have a 2021 A6 55 TFSI. So far I have an AWE track exhaust and the APR carbon intake (intake not yet installed). I purchased an APR ultra link in hopes of tuning it, but my car is not yet supported and they have no idea when it will be right now. The more I look the more I see nobody has any type of tuning support for this car other than the Burger Tuning group 7 JB4 but that was exactly the route I was looking to go. Does anyone have any advice or recommendations for tuning this car? Thank you.

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    That wasn’t exactly the route I was looking to go* sorry for the typo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sline6 View Post
    Hello I have a 2021 A6 55 TFSI. So far I have an AWE track exhaust and the APR carbon intake (intake not yet installed). I purchased an APR ultra link in hopes of tuning it, but my car is not yet supported and they have no idea when it will be right now. The more I look the more I see nobody has any type of tuning support for this car other than the Burger Tuning group 7 JB4 but that was exactly the route I was looking to go. Does anyone have any advice or recommendations for tuning this car? Thank you.
    My car is a first run of 034 so far I've done 91 , 93 and currently on e85. The problem is our transmission is the thing that needs tuning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazyz View Post
    My car is a first run of 034 so far I've done 91 , 93 and currently on e85. The problem is our transmission is the thing that needs tuning.

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    Are you saying you are currently beta testing a 034 tune for the C8 A6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dflicker View Post
    Are you saying you are currently beta testing a 034 tune for the C8 A6?
    Yes and I've said this , in audiworld as well as the apr thread. As well in the fb thread. But it's up to them to let the world have it.
    I'm local to them asked and got them to mess around.

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    Really glad to hear it! I've heard it's in the "works" but knowing its in the field means progress. Love their products and can't wait to get off my APR tune. Any idea if the TCU is being addressed at the same time?

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    This car was a lot of fun when I first got it. Now I just feel like it’s lacking and want more out of it. I spoke with 034 months ago and they said it was in development with no eta. It’s hard going from a 500+whp car to the a6 with no tuning availability and being stuck. I hope it gets figured out within the next 5-6 months.

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    Hey A6 C8 fans!
    I got recently 2021 A6 55TFSI Prestige and was looking for a tune that will keep my Audi extended warranty. Well there are few options with piggyback tuners. I got JB4 Group7 box and installation was swift and was running map3 for a while which is going at +4PSI over stock target boost and then i shared my logs with George at Burger motorsport and I was asking for more power so with my fuel (94octane E10 mixture - Petro Canada) he suggested to run map 4 which is +6PSI over stock and he checked logs again on that map and there was no AFR issues and nor timing retardations....so yea ..you can definitely feel the power increase even running 4PSI more it is noticeable. Been running it daily for a more than a month and so far no codes and no codes from that 7speed DCT (not my favorite tranny). I come from 6.4L SRT Charger with 8speed ZF....and let me tell you that is the best tranny in the world. Also the power delivery with turbo cars ....I mean it works but the delay from when I touch the pedal when compared to something like 6.4HEMI..far cry. For now A6 is good car for my long drives where SRT was getting noisy and annoying. Anyways back to A6, I'm hitting peak PSI on colder days at around 22 PSI and on hotter days I seen 25PSI (which in settings of JB4 is set as safety max - can be changed). There is so much adjustability with JB4. I have my waste gate actuation at 100 now as it helped maintaining with more boost overall. It is a clever system as I looked also with my XTOOL scanner and also with Ross tech scanner at live data from ECU and the ECU really thinks that it is targeting 500nm but in reality is probably like 650nm. ECU is closely monitoring AFR and JB4 spooks the MAP and TMAP sensors and ECU just automatically adjusts more fuel to keep AFR in check and continues to keep the engine safe from knock...it is pretty safe system if you think about it. And if you do the math even 4PSI over like stock 18PSI will result in over 400hp total and more with 6PSI. I just raced my friend in 2021 C43 AMG and we stayed neck to neck with 3 pulls up to 200km/h witch tells me that C43 is lighter and has 385hp so with A6 having more weight, so I have to have over 400hp. That same C43 I raced number of times with my 6.4 Charger and C43 kept up up to like 140km/h and then Charger will start pulling away...but Charger weighting over 4400lbs and had 485hp. Anyways so far so good on JB4. And what I read if you do not launch the car there should be no problems with transmission. I do mostly pulls on HWY anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stef101 View Post
    Hey A6 C8 fans!
    I got recently 2021 A6 55TFSI Prestige and was looking for a tune that will keep my Audi extended warranty. Well there are few options with piggyback tuners. I got JB4 Group7 box and installation was swift and was running map3 for a while which is going at +4PSI over stock target boost and then i shared my logs with George at Burger motorsport and I was asking for more power so with my fuel (94octane E10 mixture - Petro Canada) he suggested to run map 4 which is +6PSI over stock and he checked logs again on that map and there was no AFR issues and nor timing retardations....so yea ..you can definitely feel the power increase even running 4PSI more it is noticeable. Been running it daily for a more than a month and so far no codes and no codes from that 7speed DCT (not my favorite tranny). I come from 6.4L SRT Charger with 8speed ZF....and let me tell you that is the best tranny in the world. Also the power delivery with turbo cars ....I mean it works but the delay from when I touch the pedal when compared to something like 6.4HEMI..far cry. For now A6 is good car for my long drives where SRT was getting noisy and annoying. Anyways back to A6, I'm hitting peak PSI on colder days at around 22 PSI and on hotter days I seen 25PSI (which in settings of JB4 is set as safety max - can be changed). There is so much adjustability with JB4. I have my waste gate actuation at 100 now as it helped maintaining with more boost overall. It is a clever system as I looked also with my XTOOL scanner and also with Ross tech scanner at live data from ECU and the ECU really thinks that it is targeting 500nm but in reality is probably like 650nm. ECU is closely monitoring AFR and JB4 spooks the MAP and TMAP sensors and ECU just automatically adjusts more fuel to keep AFR in check and continues to keep the engine safe from knock...it is pretty safe system if you think about it. And if you do the math even 4PSI over like stock 18PSI will result in over 400hp total and more with 6PSI. I just raced my friend in 2021 C43 AMG and we stayed neck to neck with 3 pulls up to 200km/h witch tells me that C43 is lighter and has 385hp so with A6 having more weight, so I have to have over 400hp. That same C43 I raced number of times with my 6.4 Charger and C43 kept up up to like 140km/h and then Charger will start pulling away...but Charger weighting over 4400lbs and had 485hp. Anyways so far so good on JB4. And what I read if you do not launch the car there should be no problems with transmission. I do mostly pulls on HWY anyways.
    This was everything I needed to hear! Thank you a whole dang lot! I’m going to pull the trigger on the JB4 setup as I have lost any hope that anyone else will have any type of tune for our cars. I’ve been on various companies about it for 6+ months now so I’m assuming it’s just not coming or at least not any time soon considering my car is almost 4 years old now so Burgers JB4 it is thanks again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sline6 View Post
    This was everything I needed to hear! Thank you a whole dang lot! I’m going to pull the trigger on the JB4 setup as I have lost any hope that anyone else will have any type of tune for our cars. I’ve been on various companies about it for 6+ months now so I’m assuming it’s just not coming or at least not any time soon considering my car is almost 4 years old now so Burgers JB4 it is thanks again!
    034 replied to a question from a YouTube comment 2 weeks ago that their ecu/tcu for C8 a6/a7 saying that it is currently being developed and will be available soon.

    This link has the question and reply in comment section

    https://www.youtube.com/live/mc5e9eH...pyXbx18C-z1pGw

    I can’t find which episode they answered a question about when they will release the tune or why they haven’t, a summary of the verbal reply from Javad or Nate is basically that they’ve got a file running on either a shop car or customer car for a long time now (like a year or more). They basically say it hasn’t been released yet because they dont do premature releases with a bunch of revisions, they prefer to release it after it’s already perfect.

    I know for a fact they mention Javad running the new Q7 file for a long time now pre-release similar for the merc blower file it’s already being run by them just not available for purchase yet . I
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    Quote Originally Posted by STXA7 View Post
    034 replied to a question from a YouTube comment 2 weeks ago that their ecu/tcu for C8 a6/a7 saying that it is currently being developed and will be available soon.

    This link has the question and reply in comment section

    https://www.youtube.com/live/mc5e9eH...pyXbx18C-z1pGw

    I can’t find which episode they answered a question about when they will release the tune or why they haven’t, a summary of the verbal reply from Javad or Nate is basically that they’ve got a file running on either a shop car or customer car for a long time now (like a year or more). They basically say it hasn’t been released yet because they dont do premature releases with a bunch of revisions, they prefer to release it after it’s already perfect.

    I know for a fact they mention Javad running the new Q7 file for a long time now pre-release similar for the merc blower file it’s already being run by them just not available for purchase yet . I
    My only worry with that is this. APR currently has an ECU tune out for our cars. The problem is that it is not compatible with every ecu for example mine. I purchased an APR ultra link which is now useless and a waste of whatever the cost of it was. $120-$150 if I remember correctly. Apparently they can’t access my ecu yet. I’ve offered to send my ecu in and they won’t take it because of still not having access. So if 034 has only been testing one car I would assume this tune is going to be very limited to certain ecu’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sline6 View Post
    My only worry with that is this. APR currently has an ECU tune out for our cars. The problem is that it is not compatible with every ecu for example mine. I purchased an APR ultra link which is now useless and a waste of whatever the cost of it was. $120-$150 if I remember correctly. Apparently they can’t access my ecu yet. I’ve offered to send my ecu in and they won’t take it because of still not having access. So if 034 has only been testing one car I would assume this tune is going to be very limited to certain ecu’s.
    You can email tuning@034 with your ECU box code and specific model year and other specifics so they can verify compatibility before spending anymore


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    Quote Originally Posted by STXA7 View Post
    034 replied to a question from a YouTube comment 2 weeks ago that their ecu/tcu for C8 a6/a7 saying that it is currently being developed and will be available soon.

    This link has the question and reply in comment section

    https://www.youtube.com/live/mc5e9eH...pyXbx18C-z1pGw

    I can’t find which episode they answered a question about when they will release the tune or why they haven’t, a summary of the verbal reply from Javad or Nate is basically that they’ve got a file running on either a shop car or customer car for a long time now (like a year or more). They basically say it hasn’t been released yet because they dont do premature releases with a bunch of revisions, they prefer to release it after it’s already perfect.

    I know for a fact they mention Javad running the new Q7 file for a long time now pre-release similar for the merc blower file it’s already being run by them just not available for purchase yet . I
    I just rewatched the episode and I didn't hear them say anything about the C8 A6/A7 ECU/TCU tunes. I did see the comment from @Xyles inquiring about it but the response just says it's in the works. Where did you see/hear a reply that it would be available soon?

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    You can plug in an ethernet cable and see if we support the ECU and/or TCU. Even if we don't support it, you get a free, very fast diagnostic tool that reads all modules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dflicker View Post
    I just rewatched the episode and I didn't hear them say anything about the C8 A6/A7 ECU/TCU tunes. I did see the comment from @Xyles inquiring about it but the response just says it's in the works. Where did you see/hear a reply that it would be available soon?
    like i told you in original reply, I do not recall the exact episode where they talk about already having it in testing for a long time. someone asked a question about releasing tune for X car model and they gave a long reply sounding annoyed that people keep asking them to rush releases. Other times that people ask variant of the same question, they point out how other companies are okay doing premature releases but that they don't do that in their business model because of not wanting people to complain about incomplete tunes that ends up damaging reputation.
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    Sorry I guess I misread your response. When you responded to a previous post with this part and the link I thought you were saying that they they confirmed that the tunes would be out soon

    034 replied to a question from a YouTube comment 2 weeks ago that their ecu/tcu for C8 a6/a7 saying that it is currently being developed and will be available soon.

    This link has the question and reply in comment section

    https://www.youtube.com/live/mc5e9eH...pyXbx18C-z1pGw

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    Quote Originally Posted by dflicker View Post
    Sorry I guess I misread your response. When you responded to a previous post with this part and the link I thought you were saying that they they confirmed that the tunes would be out soon
    It’s cool I just didn’t want to make it seem like I was saying something that isn’t true, there’s been a troll or two that have misrepresent my posts in the past. I don’t pay as much attention to the c8 or b9 information in the live streams but generally recall their response being along those lines. Ultimately your best move would be to email 034 directly with all your vehicle details and see what the official response is. I empathize with y’all not having as many tuning options available. I cooked a stock c8 a7 with my stage 1 c7 a7 at the track some weeks back, he mentioned using APR on his previous car but is holding out for TCU tune before picking them again. I’m not sure if anyone is making custom TCU tunes using HPTuners etc.


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    We list nearly 40 custom tuners on our website, and our free app will tell you in a few seconds whether they can flash your ECU and/or TCU. They're doing lots of 2.9T/3.0T/4.0T in Audi, Porsche, Lambo. We support over 1000 software versions and the app automatically checks ECU, TCU and gateway hardware for unsupported types or with extra steps required and advises.

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    Currently for those of us whose box codes aren’t supported by APR our only option really is the JB4. The 034 ecu/tcu tune is going to be even more limited than the APR tune due to them only having 1 car in development and I also don’t see that being released any time soon. I also don’t see APR coming out with more box codes any time soon and even if they did is it really worth that much money for a low tq tune because everyone refuses to dig into this trans for tuning for some reason.

    Companies say it’s a matter of gaining access, but in my opinion I think these ecu’s can be gotten into no problem but why would any of them focus on our platform when there’s more profitable ones. This car has a ton of potential. I believe with some hardware upgrades and proper ecu/tcu tuning these cars could be powerhouses.

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    I am releasing my data info on the current APR STAGE 1/high torque tune here shortly. I’ve already gathered some info. I have the tune installed, and it is a noticeable difference in power.

    When it comes to this platform I would NOT personally tune it unless you just want the speed limiter removed. Once the transmission tune is released, then it may be more interesting.. but as of now… JB4 is the best set up if you don’t plan on going over 130mph. I noticed the stock tune is “boost by gear” and once it get over 110mph, the boost is really limited and it pulls slow up until the speed limiter.

    Now tuned, it just pulls.. pulls.. and pulls. The trans is holding back power and you can tell. Overall it’s more fun, but I see why the platform lacks tuning support.. and it’s because it’s not enough people investing in the current options. More tuned 3.0t’s will result in them caring enough to tune the trans. As of now, nobody wants to put money into R&D of a platform that nobody is modding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A7_King99 View Post
    I am releasing my data info on the current APR STAGE 1/high torque tune here shortly. I’ve already gathered some info. I have the tune installed, and it is a noticeable difference in power.

    When it comes to this platform I would NOT personally tune it unless you just want the speed limiter removed. Once the transmission tune is released, then it may be more interesting.. but as of now… JB4 is the best set up if you don’t plan on going over 130mph. I noticed the stock tune is “boost by gear” and once it get over 110mph, the boost is really limited and it pulls slow up until the speed limiter.

    Now tuned, it just pulls.. pulls.. and pulls. The trans is holding back power and you can tell. Overall it’s more fun, but I see why the platform lacks tuning support.. and it’s because it’s not enough people investing in the current options. More tuned 3.0t’s will result in them caring enough to tune the trans. As of now, nobody wants to put money into R&D of a platform that nobody is modding.
    I think a lot more people would be interested in modding these cars if there was more support for them. Support is extremely limited even in just an ecu tune because a lot of box codes aren’t even available. But that’s just my opinion. A lot of people are also hesitant because of the lack of TCU tuning. Everyone knows these cars have potential we just need a company who will actually take the leap and put some solid options on the market for both the ecu and the 7 speed trans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sline6 View Post
    I think a lot more people would be interested in modding these cars if there was more support for them. Support is extremely limited even in just an ecu tune because a lot of box codes aren’t even available. But that’s just my opinion. A lot of people are also hesitant because of the lack of TCU tuning. Everyone knows these cars have potential we just need a company who will actually take the leap and put some solid options on the market for both the ecu and the 7 speed trans.


    In order to have more support, you have to have a supply and demand that make sense. I personally don’t see any reason to heavily modify the 3.0t platform at this current time. The 2.9t is getting all the shine with the twin turbo set up.

    Even with the tuning released.. it is hard finding feedback from people who have even tuned them with the software that has been released. Another issue is the transmission issues with the stock tune. It’s already a problem, so the tune will either blow trans left and right or fix the issues of going into limp mode. I had this problem before the Apr flash.

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    Also… we don’t need “just a company” to release software or tunes for the platform, we need a reputable company that is confident in releasing tunes for the ECU/TCU.. I personally think if going fast is your thing.. grab a RS model.. RS3/5/7 or even S3/S6/S7/S8…

    As far as the C8 A series… it’s going to be a long waiting game. And it’s best to be patient and let developers take their time.

    For example… the 2020 corvette does not have TCM SUPPORT EITHER. you can tune the ECU/ECM .. but can’t tune the trans.. and that market is flooded with guys who are willing to pay for tcm support.

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    Here is a list of 4K0907559 ECUs we support:

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    These all have DLZA 3.0TFS engine code and have Tricore processors. They have part number 06M907309G on the ECUs.

    We support about 100 other software versions in 06M907309G across Audi, Bentley, Lambo, Porsche, VW.

    Multiple other tools can flash these. They aren't rare, neither are the ZF 8HP ECUs.

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    You can also use this site to find support for versions in VAG updates, if they are here, tuners generally will not be struggling for a file, but we have come across some 3.0TFSI for which there is no update even when they've been out for a while and don't have _0001. I added another Tricore 3.0T today in an SQ5 from a bench read, also the same 06M907309G hardware. Some support is patchy but you have to know your box code and other identifiers to check, which is easy and automatic.

    https://vag-flashinfo.de/site/index?partno=4K0907559

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    TCU depends on the software and hardware, there are well over 100 versions. Plug in and find out, then you'll know.

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    Anyone have any experience with the ABT control unit?

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    I realize APR and JB4 are the couple of ECU tune options for us with 3.0 55 TFSI. Besides those, has anybody here gone with the piggyback tune from Racechip (GTS 5)? If so, please share your thoughts!

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    a real tune vs a piggyback is no contest. If for some reason you absolutely can’t do a tune, then go with the JB. Abt is also just a piggyback and they’re typically much more conservative than the most mild stage ones. Also you’d have to be insane to pay more than double the price of an APR tune for ANY piggyback… abt is always insanely overpriced because well, it’s abt. Also, avoid racechip like the plague. not even once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mike View Post
    I realize APR and JB4 are the couple of ECU tune options for us with 3.0 55 TFSI. Besides those, has anybody here gone with the piggyback tune from Racechip (GTS 5)? If so, please share your thoughts!
    If you can get an APR tune then do that. If you’re in the same boat as some of us whose box codes are not yet supported for ecu tuning then I’d go JB4 over any other piggyback option.

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    Thanks, Guys. I have a service contract (aka extended warranty) that runs thru June 2029 which is why I won’t consider the APR tune. Will go with JB4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mike View Post
    Thanks, Guys. I have a service contract (aka extended warranty) that runs thru June 2029 which is why I won’t consider the APR tune. Will go with JB4
    Just remember that even with the JB4 if there was some sort of catastrophic failure they could still see evidence of some sort of tuning being done if they dug hard enough. If you went APR+ they have their own warranty with it in case something crazy happens to your car and you’re worried about warranty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sline6 View Post
    Just remember that even with the JB4 if there was some sort of catastrophic failure they could still see evidence of some sort of tuning being done if they dug hard enough. If you went APR+ they have their own warranty with it in case something crazy happens to your car and you’re worried about warranty.
    Yep I realize there is a possibility of that with JB4. My service contract/warranty (3rd party sold thru Audi) is already paid for and I can take to any repair shop of my choice, Audi dealer or Independent, just pay a deductible. There’s only one APR approved shop in Eugene, OR area, that once again has me disinterested in APR tune. It’s my daily driver and work vehicle, def not a racer, I think the JB4 will be a great addition to wake it up a bit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mister Mike View Post
    Yep I realize there is a possibility of that with JB4. My service contract/warranty (3rd party sold thru Audi) is already paid for and I can take to any repair shop of my choice, Audi dealer or Independent, just pay a deductible. There’s only one APR approved shop in Eugene, OR area, that once again has me disinterested in APR tune. It’s my daily driver and work vehicle, def not a racer, I think the JB4 will be a great addition to wake it up a bit!
    JB4 is definitely a great option still. I plan to do the JB4 myself around summer time. I already have an exhaust and intake so I’m gonna JB4 it and call it a day until I decide to trade it in for something else or keep it as my daily and build another Honda. This platform is absolutely horrendous when it comes to modding. There is zero support for anything. I should have definitely done my homework on that front before getting into it lol.

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    Hi everybody. I'm here from the C 7.5 forum because I am one day going to own a C8. The limit on my car is a supercharger and I don't feel like paying for a larger charger and all the adaptations that would go with it. I'd rather go to a C8 and change a turbo. I'm hoping that there is a solution for the C8 for all of us, you now and myself in the future. I have a stage 2 DP 3.0T with an excellent trans tune. There is no way that I would back off running a 6.4L Dodge. At the track, it better be tuned, wearing slicks and the owner has to know how to cut a light or they're going to get a look at Miss Piggy's behind. I think the C8 has more potential with that turbo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchMeSpend View Post
    Hi everybody. I'm here from the C 7.5 forum because I am one day going to own a C8. The limit on my car is a supercharger and I don't feel like paying for a larger charger and all the adaptations that would go with it. I'd rather go to a C8 and change a turbo. I'm hoping that there is a solution for the C8 for all of us, you now and myself in the future. I have a stage 2 DP 3.0T with an excellent trans tune. There is no way that I would back off running a 6.4L Dodge. At the track, it better be tuned, wearing slicks and the owner has to know how to cut a light or they're going to get a look at Miss Piggy's behind. I think the C8 has more potential with that turbo.
    I’d stay far away from the C8 platform if performance is your goal. At least the A6 that is anyways. Forget about the idea of putting a bigger turbo in it because we can’t get proper ecu tuning let alone tcu tuning. This platform has been out for almost 10 years with little support. If I were in your shoes I’d be putting a bigger blower and supporting mods on your C7.5 you’ll be much faster in that car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchMeSpend View Post
    Hi everybody. I'm here from the C 7.5 forum because I am one day going to own a C8. The limit on my car is a supercharger and I don't feel like paying for a larger charger and all the adaptations that would go with it. I'd rather go to a C8 and change a turbo. I'm hoping that there is a solution for the C8 for all of us, you now and myself in the future. I have a stage 2 DP 3.0T with an excellent trans tune. There is no way that I would back off running a 6.4L Dodge. At the track, it better be tuned, wearing slicks and the owner has to know how to cut a light or they're going to get a look at Miss Piggy's behind. I think the C8 has more potential with that turbo.
    There’s more power to be had with a ported blower and getting the stage2+ bigger TB HPFP upgrade and E40 file . Cost less than 10k merc blower or a new c8 that can’t even be fully upgraded at this time


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    Quote Originally Posted by STXA7 View Post
    There’s more power to be had with a ported blower and getting the stage2+ bigger TB HPFP upgrade and E40 file . Cost less than 10k merc blower or a new c8 that can’t even be fully upgraded at this time

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    I’d stay far away from the C8 platform if performance is your goal. At least the A6 that is anyways. Forget about the idea of putting a bigger turbo in it because we can’t get proper ecu tuning let alone tcu tuning. This platform has been out for almost 10 years with little support. If I were in your shoes I’d be putting a bigger blower and supporting mods on your C7.5 you’ll be much faster in that car.
    All the same bad things were once said about the C-7.5. I'm not finished with mine yet, and I am not currently considering a C8 to purchase, but at some time, I'm going to want a newer car, so I am looking for options for the future.

    I can't get E where I live. If you take a look at the 3.0T leaderboard the fastest 93 DP file car is almost identical to mine. A lot of the cars that dominate have ported blowers, exhaust, and E files. A CREC cannot hold multiple programs and be switched on the fly because there is less memory available in the computer, so I have to stick with 93. I hate to say it about academytim's pass, but on the street, the advantage is if you get traction you can get faster times. Drive on the highway in freezing weather and then pull over and launch. The cold coolant enters the HX cores and you get a nice rush. So I think the car would be slower at the track, plus it's a Dragy and we know it could be off a smidge.

    I ran 12.09 with some wheelspin from 2800-3800, a double tap on the shifter made the 2-3 shift happen very early, still shifted at 6800 on the 3-4 and I had a complete flat on the front right tire partway through second to the end of the 1/4. I know the car has an 11 in it. I have since changed the trans tune with a 3800 RPM launch and harder shifting. If I can tweak to 11:6 on a cold day, I'll be happy. I know my new tuner would want me to go Jackal and change the TB and intake, but I need to max out what I have before I consider changing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WatchMeSpend View Post
    All the same bad things were once said about the C-7.5. I'm not finished with mine yet, and I am not currently considering a C8 to purchase, but at some time, I'm going to want a newer car, so I am looking for options for the future.

    I can't get E where I live. If you take a look at the 3.0T leaderboard the fastest 93 DP file car is almost identical to mine. A lot of the cars that dominate have ported blowers, exhaust, and E files. A CREC cannot hold multiple programs and be switched on the fly because there is less memory available in the computer, so I have to stick with 93. I hate to say it about academytim's pass, but on the street, the advantage is if you get traction you can get faster times. Drive on the highway in freezing weather and then pull over and launch. The cold coolant enters the HX cores and you get a nice rush. So I think the car would be slower at the track, plus it's a Dragy and we know it could be off a smidge.

    I ran 12.09 with some wheelspin from 2800-3800, a double tap on the shifter made the 2-3 shift happen very early, still shifted at 6800 on the 3-4 and I had a complete flat on the front right tire partway through second to the end of the 1/4. I know the car has an 11 in it. I have since changed the trans tune with a 3800 RPM launch and harder shifting. If I can tweak to 11:6 on a cold day, I'll be happy. I know my new tuner would want me to go Jackal and change the TB and intake, but I need to max out what I have before I consider changing.
    The potential is here, given its the same motor as the B9 S4's and there are kits like the APR DTR8868 Direct Replacement Turbo producing around 570ish AWHP (Their numbers) with no emissions issues, ie, keep stock downpipe...but the issue is the transmission. APR has said on record they're not actively developing it. 034 is in beta with a tune for both ECU/TCU as stated by a local user and I can also confirm after reaching out to them regarding their hybrid turbo setup from the B9 platform. I'm currently at the maximum point this car will allow with my mods but once the TCU tune comes, it will open the doors and allow for custom tuning to get going. Personally, I love my car as it is but totally understand wanting more out of it and being limited.

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    Curious if anybody here has installed the JB4, with wireless connection kit, DIY, and would be willing to share thoughts? I see the instructions are for a B9 S5 which is very similar, but granted, not exactly the same as our A6/A7 55TFSI under the hood. I'd like to know if there are any tips or tricks for sensors that may be hard to get to, advice on passing thru the firewall for OBDII connection, etc. I see a couple of 'optional' sensor connections that I probably wouldn't ever need to plug in (fuel pressure for E85, Boost Control Module for more aggressive maps on Ethanol or larger turbos), then optional OBDII CANBUS for data log and advanced data, that I believe I would want up front, for sure.

    I realize I may also reach out to George at Burger directly, but wanted to start here for some unbiased opinions of the installation, first. Thanks!

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