Traded the RS5

[vexige]

Traded my fully loaded, CC breaks, etc...2019 RS5 (less than 45k miles) for 2024 G80. My car is in Audi Englewood, NJ. Car is in ideal condition-APR tune, ABT coilovers, 12.5mm spacers all around, new BMC air filter . One of the best cars I owned.
Car Fax will show minor hail damage in 2021, all was repaired using PDR without painting.
If anyone interested, PM, I'll be happy to answer your questions and refer to the sales person who took the trade. Would be happy to see her being owned by the car enthusiast...

RS2.jpg

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[Pandemic]

we lost another one to G80, don't blame ya, Audi ain't what it used to be. even audi presence on this forum is gone. the preferred custom base is middle / upper middle class non car people who will pay the massive dealer bills for the common stuff that goes wrong

[vexige]

The car was sold by the dealer after only two days on the lot...

[VVG]

we lost another one to G80, don't blame ya, Audi ain't what it used to be. even audi presence on this forum is gone. the preferred custom base is middle / upper middle class non car people who will pay the massive dealer bills for the common stuff that goes wrong

BMW ain't what it used to be either. I find their latest designs hideous. Only exception to that currently, to my eyes, is the M8. However I heard they have fired their entire design team. Best Bimmer ever IMO was the E46 M3. E92 M3 comes close also as does the E39 M5 and the old 635csi

[wwhan]

BMW ain't what it used to be either. I find their latest designs hideous. Only exception to that currently, to my eyes, is the M8. However I heard they have fired their entire design team. Best Bimmer ever IMO was the E46 M3. E92 M3 comes close also as does the E39 M5 and the old 635csi

The 2024/2025 BMW M3 looks OK to me except for the front grille work with the beaver buck tooth smile. I would put up with it, if I had to replace my RS5, because the rest of the car is fine.

[Burrcold]

Good choice! Absolutely loving my 2024 M3 Competition xDrive 😊

[HurrayFive]

Enjoy it! I've been on the BMW side for the last few cars (still buying and swapping them far too frequently) because I had a sneak preview of what was coming from Audi and nothing interests me like it used to. Eventually I'll swing back, or close enough on the Porsche side.

My G80 was one of my favorite driver experiences when you had the open space to push it, but the steering was too artificially heavy around town even in Comfort, the suspension a bit too rigid on our shit roads here, and the interior didn't quiiiite feel worth the money materials wise, so I swapped it for the M8 GC and it's friggin' excellent, my fave of the bunch by a mile. Last generation of a dying breed of car, hang on to your B9's & C8's for a while!

[VVG]

I will be moving on from my RS5 next year. It will have about 30,000 miles and is a highly spec'd 2022 Sportback. Typically, I keep cars much longer, but not this time. Overall, I am disappointed with the RS5.

First, the good.....It is arguably the best looking 4-door car in production. It has the usual amazing Audi interior design, great utility, and plenty of power. It is quite comfortable.

Here's why I am moving on.....First, no matter how much I try to like the DRC suspension, I cannot. It just plain sucks. The car is either too floaty or too bouncy. The overall feeling is of a car that drives much larger than it actually is, when the reverse is what is desirable. I actually prefer the base suspension on my wife's S5 much more. It feels tighter, more controlled, and better dampened. Second, while the power is more than adequate, the power band is very non-linear and I don't like that. I prefer a more finely balanced input/output with regard to throttle position and power delivery. This is just the result of a smaller displacement motor using higher boost to make power. Third, the transmission shifting/programming is just not very well done. To me, the car just shifts at the wrong times in so many different situations. I have found myself driving almost exclusively in manual, which is fine, but I shouldn't have to do that. Finally, I have decided that I just want the extra ground clearance and more rugged suspension, wheels, and tires that come with an SUV to deal with the road hazards of daily driving. My replacement will be an RSQ8 Performance which I just ordered. It will arrive sometime next spring. While not cheap, it a tremendous value as you are now truly getting Lamborghini Urus underpinnings at roughly half the cost. I am looking forward to the performance tuned air-suspension, and the smoother power delivery of the larger displacement motor.

[NattyDread]

Traded my fully loaded, CC breaks, etc...2019 RS5 (less than 45k miles) for 2024 G80. My car is in Audi Englewood, NJ. Car is in ideal condition-APR tune, ABT coilovers, 12.5mm spacers all around, new BMC air filter . One of the best cars I owned.
Car Fax will show minor hail damage in 2021, all was repaired using PDR without painting.
If anyone interested, PM, I'll be happy to answer your questions and refer to the sales person who took the trade. Would be happy to see her being owned by the car enthusiast...

RS2.jpg

https://photos.fife.usercontent.goog...-gm?authuser=0

Hey OP, can you share where you got your spacers? I'm looking for spacers that are that size also


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[vexige]

I think I got them on eBay-12.5mm

[B6_Dolphin]

I will be moving on from my RS5 next year. It will have about 30,000 miles and is a highly spec'd 2022 Sportback. Typically, I keep cars much longer, but not this time. Overall, I am disappointed with the RS5.

First, the good.....It is arguably the best looking 4-door car in production. It has the usual amazing Audi interior design, great utility, and plenty of power. It is quite comfortable.

Here's why I am moving on.....First, no matter how much I try to like the DRC suspension, I cannot. It just plain sucks. The car is either too floaty or too bouncy. The overall feeling is of a car that drives much larger than it actually is, when the reverse is what is desirable. I actually prefer the base suspension on my wife's S5 much more. It feels tighter, more controlled, and better dampened. Second, while the power is more than adequate, the power band is very non-linear and I don't like that. I prefer a more finely balanced input/output with regard to throttle position and power delivery. This is just the result of a smaller displacement motor using higher boost to make power. Third, the transmission shifting/programming is just not very well done. To me, the car just shifts at the wrong times in so many different situations. I have found myself driving almost exclusively in manual, which is fine, but I shouldn't have to do that.

Sorry that you are leaving the RS5 family, but for all those reasons mentioned, this is why I waited until Audi offered the Competition Package - best $16k I ever spent on an option package. The suspension is firm, but not jarring, when you adjust for street conditions (vs track). The 1-to-1 steering ratio, the stiffer stab bars, the CCBs, and the specific tuning for the engine, transmission, and Sport Diff. It's amazing how fast the shifts are without being toooo firm. Audi got the balance right on this option package.

[STi from DSM]

I have left Audi for BMW and BMW for Audi many times. I have owned two 19 RS5 Sportbacks and both were amazing machines.

[wwhan]

Traded my fully loaded, CC breaks, etc...2019 RS5 (less than 45k miles) for 2024 G80.

How does the adjustable suspension feel on the 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive?

The RS5 DRC in Auto mode is tolerable, but has too much bounciness. Does the M3 Competition xDrive in Comfort or Auto (Sport?) mode have similar comfort level.

I am thinking of a cross country trip, but the possble DRC failure and coolant pumop failure make me want to consider a newer vehicle.

I could get a new RS5 without DRC.

The Porsche 911 turbo is about twice the price of a M3 Competition xDrive.

Then there is the option of getting an EV, but infrastructure issues and battery recalls makes me reluctant to choose an EV.

EVs I have considered;

2025 Taycan GTS or Taycan 4S
2025 RS Audi e-tron or S Audi e-tron
Lucid Air Grand Touring

Now I am looking at the 2025 M3 Competition xDrive as the most practical choice.

[FLOS5IN]

How does the adjustable suspension feel on the 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive?

The RS5 DRC in Auto mode is tolerable, but has too much bounciness. Does the M3 Competition xDrive in Comfort or Auto (Sport?) mode have similar comfort level.

I am thinking of a cross country trip, but the possble DRC failure and coolant pumop failure make me want to consider a newer vehicle.

I could get a new RS5 without DRC.

The Porsche 911 turbo is about twice the price of a M3 Competition xDrive.

Then there is the option of getting an EV, but infrastructure issues and battery recalls makes me reluctant to choose an EV.

EVs I have considered;

2025 Taycan GTS or Taycan 4S
2025 RS Audi e-tron or S Audi e-tron
Lucid Air Grand Touring

Now I am looking at the 2025 M3 Competition xDrive as the most practical choice.

Upgrade your IC to either IE a2a or Wagner a2w, change out the DRC for KW v3 coilovers, then do your trip.

[vexige]

How does the adjustable suspension feel on the 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive?

The RS5 DRC in Auto mode is tolerable, but has too much bounciness. Does the M3 Competition xDrive in Comfort or Auto (Sport?) mode have similar comfort level.

I am thinking of a cross country trip, but the possble DRC failure and coolant pumop failure make me want to consider a newer vehicle.

I could get a new RS5 without DRC.

The Porsche 911 turbo is about twice the price of a M3 Competition xDrive.

Then there is the option of getting an EV, but infrastructure issues and battery recalls makes me reluctant to choose an EV.

EVs I have considered;

2025 Taycan GTS or Taycan 4S
2025 RS Audi e-tron or S Audi e-tron
Lucid Air Grand Touring

Now I am looking at the 2025 M3 Competition xDrive as the most practical choice.

I really can not comment about adjustable suspension much, since I didn't drive car enough, it's being parked now till march perhaps. My first impression after getting her, was that ride is more harsh that Audi, even at the softest setting; I also much preferred RS5 steering feedback. In general, M3 felt much more rigid compared to RS5. Last year I replaced failed DRC with ABT and liked it more than DRC. Clearly M3 is faster. Huge aftermarket support.
Within couple of weeks I installed front Eibach springs on G80, which made the ride/feedback much more compliant and dropped the front by 20mm.
I suggest to ask your question on bimmerpost, there are few former RS5 owners.

I drive my Genesis GV60P every day and it is a great ev- luxurious and fast. Across the country? I don't know... not for my nerves to wait till it's charged. You won't have issues with either- infrastructure and, especially, battery, though, I can assure you, don't believe what you read. I had EV-s since 2019...
Porsche T is a different car and category.
Try to get a test drive in M3, otherwise it's orders (4-5 months wait?) only, unless you get lucky. Maybe very slightly used (I got mine with 800 miles, was very lucky-custom painted/ordered car, dude waited for almost 6 month to get it and traded after 1.5 month for RS6...) BTW, what about the RS6? I would get one in a heart bit if I was on the market
Lucid is great I hear but for me it's too big.
Good luck!

PS Ask @Burrcold he is active on bimmerpost, had an RS5 and commented in this thread

[B6_Dolphin]

Then there is the option of getting an EV, but infrastructure issues and battery recalls makes me reluctant to choose an EV.

EVs I have considered;

2025 Taycan GTS or Taycan 4S

Have you considered used? Many lightly used Porsche Taycans are out there for a big discount, like this one (6,100 miles):

https://www.mclarenpalmbeach.com/inv...c2y19lsa72833/

[Burrcold]

How does the adjustable suspension feel on the 2024 BMW M3 Competition xDrive?

The RS5 DRC in Auto mode is tolerable, but has too much bounciness. Does the M3 Competition xDrive in Comfort or Auto (Sport?) mode have similar comfort level.

I am thinking of a cross country trip, but the possble DRC failure and coolant pumop failure make me want to consider a newer vehicle.

I could get a new RS5 without DRC.

The Porsche 911 turbo is about twice the price of a M3 Competition xDrive.

Then there is the option of getting an EV, but infrastructure issues and battery recalls makes me reluctant to choose an EV.

EVs I have considered;

2025 Taycan GTS or Taycan 4S
2025 RS Audi e-tron or S Audi e-tron
Lucid Air Grand Touring

Now I am looking at the 2025 M3 Competition xDrive as the most practical choice.

If it's absolute comfort you're looking for, the RS5 is going to be the better choice. The G80 M3 is definitely more firm (not by much though) but the biggest difference is that the M3 feels more composed, firm, but composed. I've never once thought that it's too firm vs my old RS5's. I have a family of 3 kids too and nobody has any complaints about the comfort. Almost a year in, and I still LOVE driving it.

[wwhan]

If it's absolute comfort you're looking for, the RS5 is going to be the better choice. The G80 M3 is definitely more firm (not by much though) but the biggest difference is that the M3 feels more composed, firm, but composed. I've never once thought that it's too firm vs my old RS5's. I have a family of 3 kids too and nobody has any complaints about the comfort. Almost a year in, and I still LOVE driving it.

I sat in a M3 competition xDrive today, it seemed to be OK. Does it have a top down view camera like the RS5. I guess there is limited inventory, so access to test drive is also limited. The salesman suggested getting a test drive in an M4, since they seem to be more available.

He said they were charging $5k over MSRP for special order, because of limited allocations.

[Burrcold]

I sat in a M3 competition xDrive today, it seemed to be OK. Does it have a top down view camera like the RS5. I guess there is limited inventory, so access to test drive is also limited. The salesman suggested getting a test drive in an M4, since they seem to be more available.

He said they were charging $5k over MSRP for special order, because of limited allocations.

Yes it has 360 camera and birds eye view. 2025 M3 Competition xDrive are in limited supply (apart from ordering directly) so yes, unfortunately dealers are marking them up and getting the marked up prices. Look for a new 2024 that's still on a lot somewhere...probably won't get the exact spec you are looking for though.

[vexige]

When I was looking, two dealers offered to order @MSRP, one +$5k. I'm sure you can get the order @MSRP after some shopping around. Or as Burrcold suggested, look for new on the lot 24 or (very) low mileage 24. Brokers on Leasehackr and bimmerpost are another option...

[wwhan]

I bought a new 2025 BMW M3 Xdrive for $4k under MSRP.
Found it 400 miles away in another state. I flew in, took a test drive, bought it and drove it home.

[vexige]

Congrats! Great deal too! Saw your post on bimmerpost. First impressions?

[Gregory_Tolson]

im curious to know the depreciation of buying an RS5 new in 2019 and selling it now with 40k miles.

[o1turbo30v]

im curious to know the depreciation of buying an RS5 new in 2019 and selling it now with 40k miles.

I recently bought a 2019 RS5 Sportback, fully optioned, $100K sticker, 12K miles, clean service and carfax for $50K, so whoever traded it in got what $45K for it? Obviously you will get more private party but when i was looking, guys sat on these forever man, easier to just trade it in, they dont seem to be highly sought after, even though i wanted one lol.

[Gregory_Tolson]

my A5 was like $60k-ish new and i picked it up for $38k with only 15k miles. Seems like when the 3 year warranty is over the price drops drastically. id never be brave enough to buy these cars new.

[wwhan]

Congrats! Great deal too! Saw your post on bimmerpost. First impressions?

The 2025 BMW G80 M3 Xdrive Competition is more raw & flashy. The B9 Audi RS5 is more smooth, refined & subtle.

2025 M3 Competition xDrive Sedan has this configuration;
Exterior: Skyscraper Grey Metallic
Carbon Fiber Roof
19"/20" M Dual-Spoke Bicolor Forged 825M Wheels with Staggered High Performance Tires
Interior: Black Extended Merino Leather
Carbon Fiber trim
Driving Assistance Professional Package
Executive Package
Parking Assistance Package
M Drive Professional
M Shadowline Lights
Drive recorder
Ventilated seats

2025 BMW G80 M3 Pros;

523 hp and roughly the same size of the B9 RS5
Advanced electronics and interface.
Has some useful mechanical controls in addition to the touch screen. This is the best touch screen system I have used, so far.
Brakes work well & the handling is good. It drives nicely on the freeway.
Suspension ride is tolerable and feels solid.
Carbon Fiber, No glass panoramic roof, No sunroof.
The surround sensors with the camera view give better indication of obstacles around the car on a colored display.
The active driver assist cruise driving display images are little better showing cars nearby. Controls are a little odd, but they work.

>> 2025 BMW G80 M3 Cons;

Suspension ride is about the same as a new Tesla model Y. The M3 feels like it is using hard rubber for suspension instead of dampers & springs.
The M Steptronic Sport transmission is very clunky & more difficult to drive smoothly. The transmission selector has an odd shift gate.
The wireless charging phone cradle is too short to fit a Samsung S23 Ultra phone, unless I remove the very thin case (6.44" vs with case 6.68" long).
The HK stereo does not sound as good as the B&O in the B9 RS5.
Sometimes when I get in the car, it wants my BMW ID, even when I have the key card and keys in my pocket. Eventually it decides that I am OK without entering it.
Opening the door turns on the stereo and dash display, but after getting out and closing the door it takes a little while to shut off, unless one locks it.
There are a lot of application setting and icons on the curves display to setup.
The images of from surround camera view are a bit grainy and not as clear.
The odometer is generally hidden from the dash display and needs to be momentarily activated by one of the steering wheels stalks. The system seems
to focus on trip mileage. One must set to trip distance the factory reference to get the effective odometer reading.
Getting to parts on the engine looks like one needs to remove a lot of bracing.
The trunk seems smaller than the B9 RS5
No Spare tire or convenient place to put one (has a compressor and jack, though). I wonder if the Audi space saver tire would work, though it would a pain to store in the trunk? It does have the same bolt pattern (PCD) and center bore.

[wwhan]

im curious to know the depreciation of buying an RS5 new in 2019 and selling it now with 40k miles.

My 2019 RS5 window sticker was $86,790 and I sold it to Carmax for $44,400, so I think residual value was good (at a trade-in price).

[vexige]

The 2025 BMW G80 M3 Xdrive Competition is more raw & flashy. The B9 Audi RS5 is more smooth, refined & subtle.

2025 M3 Competition xDrive Sedan has this configuration;
Exterior: Skyscraper Grey Metallic
Carbon Fiber Roof
19"/20" M Dual-Spoke Bicolor Forged 825M Wheels with Staggered High Performance Tires
Interior: Black Extended Merino Leather
Carbon Fiber trim
Driving Assistance Professional Package
Executive Package
Parking Assistance Package
M Drive Professional
M Shadowline Lights
Drive recorder
Ventilated seats

2025 BMW G80 M3 Pros;

523 hp and roughly the same size of the B9 RS5
Advanced electronics and interface.
Has some useful mechanical controls in addition to the touch screen. This is the best touch screen system I have used, so far.
Brakes work well & the handling is good. It drives nicely on the freeway.
Suspension ride is tolerable and feels solid.
Carbon Fiber, No glass panoramic roof, No sunroof.
The surround sensors with the camera view give better indication of obstacles around the car on a colored display.
The active driver assist cruise driving display images are little better showing cars nearby. Controls are a little odd, but they work.

>> 2025 BMW G80 M3 Cons;

Suspension ride is about the same as a new Tesla model Y. The M3 feels like it is using hard rubber for suspension instead of dampers & springs.
The M Steptronic Sport transmission is very clunky & more difficult to drive smoothly. The transmission selector has an odd shift gate.
The wireless charging phone cradle is too short to fit a Samsung S23 Ultra phone, unless I remove the very thin case (6.44" vs with case 6.68" long).
The HK stereo does not sound as good as the B&O in the B9 RS5.
Sometimes when I get in the car, it wants my BMW ID, even when I have the key card and keys in my pocket. Eventually it decides that I am OK without entering it.
Opening the door turns on the stereo and dash display, but after getting out and closing the door it takes a little while to shut off, unless one locks it.
There are a lot of application setting and icons on the curves display to setup.
The images of from surround camera view are a bit grainy and not as clear.
The odometer is generally hidden from the dash display and needs to be momentarily activated by one of the steering wheels stalks. The system seems
to focus on trip mileage. One must set to trip distance the factory reference to get the effective odometer reading.
Getting to parts on the engine looks like one needs to remove a lot of bracing.
The trunk seems smaller than the B9 RS5
No Spare tire or convenient place to put one (has a compressor and jack, though). I wonder if the Audi space saver tire would work, though it would a pain to store in the trunk? It does have the same bolt pattern (PCD) and center bore.

My first impressions are very similar to yours... Not just driving dynamics but also ergonomics and technology.
I don't have m professional package, I gather it has 9 different settings for traction control and drift mode... Even without it this car has too many settings for engine, suspension, steering, gearbox, sound... imo
Other than that similar options.
I liked Audi steering feel better.
The transmission will get smoother in time,- I was told it adjusts eventually to your driving style. The ride in mine is much more compliant now, especially with the front eibach springs.
I have two sets of wheels/ tires, will take one extra wheel/jack for the long trips, which will not happen often.
My Galaxy flip fits the charger when folded (not when open) but overheats fast and not charged adequately when AA is used, so I just use USB. Stereo is mediocre at best- b&o is much better unit.

Audi is fast but more utilitarian, M is faster and less practical, but lots of fun.
Although, I have to say the crowd on m forums is so different than one you see here.
But that's a different story...
Be careful if you want to buy/sell something, scammers are rampant there, make sure you know who you're dealing with and DM only.
Enjoy!

[vexige]

im curious to know the depreciation of buying an RS5 new in 2019 and selling it now with 40k miles.

I got $42k plus tax savings for mine with 45k miles on it. The sticker was around 94, i think. Blemish on Carfax- hail (minor damage) 3 years ago. I think it's decent for a 5-year-old performance car.

[jdm-v35]

Everytime I see these posts it makes me want an M3 Xdrive CS because they look sporty and fun. They are also undoubtedly much faster than the RS5. But going shopping with the wife and kid the RS5 still seems like the more practical choice for comfort and utility. I sometimes even wish I had something bigger like an RS7 or RSQ8 to be more comfortable.

[JohnEnglish]

For the price of a CS, I'd go for a RS6. Bigger, more comfortable, and more power (not that you can do anything with it but it's nice to think about). When it's time to let go of my RS5, I'm seriously thinking about a RS6.

[Visceral1]

For the price of a CS, I'd go for a RS6. Bigger, more comfortable, and more power (not that you can do anything with it but it's nice to think about). When it's time to let go of my RS5, I'm seriously thinking about a RS6.

Plus 1 here...

[Burrcold]

For the price of a CS, I'd go for a RS6. Bigger, more comfortable, and more power (not that you can do anything with it but it's nice to think about). When it's time to let go of my RS5, I'm seriously thinking about a RS6.

As much as I like the RS6, I couldn't do a wagon (and the RS7 looks awkward to me). I don't know what I want to move on to from the RS5/M3 sized vehicles.

[wwhan]

As much as I like the RS6, I couldn't do a wagon (and the RS7 looks awkward to me). I don't know what I want to move on to from the RS5/M3 sized vehicles.

The biggest issue with the RS6, which is beautiful and looks to be fun.... it is too big to fit in my garage. It is also harder to park in tight places.

I think the RS6 would be easy to drive smoothly and comfortably, with still a little extra fun available on tap.

The 2025 M3 Compettion X-drive seats are NOT as comfortable as the RS5 or likely the RS6, but he RS6 is also not as nimble as the M3.

If it were not for the size limitation, RS6 is a very tempting option. The RS6 has a gas guzzler tax, the M3 does not. Looking at the RS6 EPA gas mileage rating, makes me feel guilty about considering it, though the M3 gas mileage is not great either.

>>> I really liked the size of my old 2001 Audi B5 S4, but all cars seemed to have grown in size.

[Burrcold]

The biggest issue with the RS6, which is beautiful and looks to be fun.... it is too big to fit in my garage. It is also harder to park in tight places.

I think the RS6 would be easy to drive smoothly and comfortably, with still a little extra fun available on tap.

The 2025 M3 Compettion X-drive seats are NOT as comfortable as the RS5 or likely the RS6, but he RS6 is also not as nimble as the M3.

If it were not for the size limitation, RS6 is a very tempting option. The RS6 has a gas guzzler tax, the M3 does not. Looking at the RS6 EPA gas mileage rating, makes me feel guilty about considering it, though the M3 gas mileage is not great either.

>>> I really liked the size of my old 2001 Audi B5 S4, but all cars seemed to have grown in size.

I think seat comfort is very subjective because I've found the M3 seats to be more comfortable compared to the RS5 (granted I have the regular sport seats in my M3 and not the carbon buckets). The RS5 seats were comfortable but something about the lumbar support always annoyed me. Again, seats are highly subjective based on height, body type, etc. The RS6 100% had more comfortable seats than both of them...it's a very comfortable car (almost too comfortable for an RS in my opinion).

[JohnEnglish]

As much as I like the RS6, I couldn't do a wagon (and the RS7 looks awkward to me). I don't know what I want to move on to from the RS5/M3 sized vehicles.

Yeah, I get that. I think the RS7 is awkward looking too. Something about the way it looks like it was a longer car but part of the back end was cut off. The RS5 has a much better looking back end.

I was never a fan of wagons but there are a few RS6s in my neighborhood and they’ve grow on me. I also really appreciate the practicality of the rear hatch on the RS5. Even though I don’t use it very often, it’s nice to have the space and ease of access.

[wwhan]

I noticed the M3 seats fold down like the RS5, which is nice for hauling things that do not require height.

I was able haul lot of stuff in my old B9 RS5 SB, including 4 tires mounted on stock 20" wheels.

[vexige]

Isn't rs6 significantly more expensive than m3 cs? I'm not even mentioning very different driving experience...
There's also g99 m5 available now, priced similarly to rs6.

[Burrcold]

Isn't rs6 significantly more expensive than m3 cs? I'm not even mentioning very different driving experience...
There's also g99 m5 available now, priced similarly to rs6.

There's about $8k difference in starting MSRP, but the RS6 can widen that gap by quite some with more options. Both expensive cars though.

Considering the CS isn't a huge leap in performance over the M3 Competition, I don't think it's worth it (especially since you can code in the CS steering, transmission tuning, diff tuning, and suspension tuning to a regular M3 Competition xDrive...of course you don't get the few part changes between the two, but it's close...and for $250 it's a no-brainer).

[vexige]

There's about $8k difference in starting MSRP, but the RS6 can widen that gap by quite some with more options. Both expensive cars though.

Considering the CS isn't a huge leap in performance over the M3 Competition, I don't think it's worth it (especially since you can code in the CS steering, transmission tuning, diff tuning, and suspension tuning to a regular M3 Competition xDrive...of course you don't get the few part changes between the two, but it's close...and for $250 it's a no-brainer).

I would only get CS if I track it, otherwise it's just for show (just like carbon buckets), which 95% of owners have it for- it must be rather uncomfortable in day-to-day driving. I also don't think that coding it makes sense, since M3C is far exceeding almost any drivers ability to handle it, straight line acceleration, aka "racing", notwithstanding -:) Does coding affect the warranty on M3C?
The cheapest RS6 I saw at my dealer was almost $140K, usually around $150k