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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyH View Post
    really? they are $51k for 6MT and 52k for DSG for the 2024, so $10k increase on a facelift? I know the MK7.5 to MK8 wasn't even that much
    so that puts the RS3 in around $20k markup of low $70's

    When the gap is $25-30k for the RS3, I know I will be gapping one with that much money in mods to the R too lol
    Hard to say...R is $53,165 now without discount. Assume MY2025 has small price increase. Euro Style Package might push $5k for Akra and Forged Wheels. That could get close to $60k very easily. I dont think it's a stretch to have that happen, which makes me think the RS3 is going to come in at $80k. With no TTRS to price against, I think the RS3 can easily be priced into that level and people still purchase. Nothing else like it out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholascanada View Post
    Hard to say...R is $53,165 now without discount. Assume MY2025 has small price increase. Euro Style Package might push $5k for Akra and Forged Wheels. That could get close to $60k very easily. I dont think it's a stretch to have that happen, which makes me think the RS3 is going to come in at $80k. With no TTRS to price against, I think the RS3 can easily be priced into that level and people still purchase. Nothing else like it out there.
    I would still stick with base + $20k CAD, and yes I do expect a small increase for the 2025 over the 2024 I quickly looked up. I didn't see the 2025 pricing yet
    Is the Euro Style package even official for 2024 in Canada? I don't see us getting the Akrapovic exhaust tbh, but who knows.

    We had this conversation before, but when you compare the RS3 in US sits to the M2 in the US, I would expect the RS3 in Canada to be under $80k compared to M2 pricing in Canada.

    The S3 with similar options as the base RS3 according to the Audi Canada release is at $72,000 with base paint, but includes the advanced drivers assistance package. This will be an option for the RS3 according to the news release. In the end, base RS3 will likely be under $80k like I said, if it's more I would be giving it a hard look, and if it's over $85k I would be looking at other options without thinking twice. I see it as being over $75k, but if Audi somehow comes in under that I would be shocked.


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    The 2025 Audi RS3 is expected to have a starting price of around $65,000 in Canada. The RS3 is the third generation of the A3 lineup, and is returning to Canada after a nearly five-year hiatus. The 2025 model has been upgraded and facelifted, and is expected to be available in fall 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyH View Post
    I would still stick with base + $20k CAD, and yes I do expect a small increase for the 2025 over the 2024 I quickly looked up. I didn't see the 2025 pricing yet
    Is the Euro Style package even official for 2024 in Canada? I don't see us getting the Akrapovic exhaust tbh, but who knows.

    We had this conversation before, but when you compare the RS3 in US sits to the M2 in the US, I would expect the RS3 in Canada to be under $80k compared to M2 pricing in Canada.

    The S3 with similar options as the base RS3 according to the Audi Canada release is at $72,000 with base paint, but includes the advanced drivers assistance package. This will be an option for the RS3 according to the news release. In the end, base RS3 will likely be under $80k like I said, if it's more I would be giving it a hard look, and if it's over $85k I would be looking at other options without thinking twice. I see it as being over $75k, but if Audi somehow comes in under that I would be shocked.


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    The 2025 Audi RS3 is expected to have a starting price of around $65,000 in Canada. The RS3 is the third generation of the A3 lineup, and is returning to Canada after a nearly five-year hiatus. The 2025 model has been upgraded and facelifted, and is expected to be available in fall 2024.
    I realize that anything is possible these days, but I'm a bit curious as to where the assumption comes from that the refreshed RS3 is going to be much more expensive than the outgoing version. It's not like this is a totally new platform, and now while I get inflation and all, I would think that Audi realizes the economics of charging 6 to 8K above current ask would mean to sales volume. My guess is the 8.5Y is going to be a few grand over current ask. I'm in the states so I can only talk from here so not sure what Canada will do or anywhere else for that matter.

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    MY2025 R is getting Euro Style Package that has cloth seats and Akra.

    What was difference years ago between S3 and RS3? If 2025 S3 in Canada is $72k then RS3 has to be well into $80s IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholascanada View Post
    MY2025 R is getting Euro Style Package that has cloth seats and Akra.

    What was difference years ago between S3 and RS3? If 2025 S3 in Canada is $72k then RS3 has to be well into $80s IMHO.
    Right. I think that price control begins with what options you choose, too. I plan to add a few extra goodies than what I have now. Will see what that does to total price.

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    Messed around on the Audi.uk build my own for the new RS3.
    Seems just about everything I am considering for options are there. However, I can not determine the difference between the carbon black trim line vs. the Vorsprung trim line. The Vorsprung states steel brakes and not CC, with the metallic 10 spoke rims for almost 10k euros more. The top speed goes up, yes, but makes no claim to tire choice, etc, assume the R is there? Guess leave that to the salesperson to iron out, but not sure all things withstanding if the price jump to the Vors is worth it. Btw, I want the gray 10 spoke rims, and that's not an option in the Vorsprung package.
    The disappointing part so far with regards to interior choices is that I don't see where you can choose to have Alcantara on the steering wheel with a noon marker, on the dash, arm rests, red accents, etc.. it would be nice to have that option.
    All in all, I built what I think would be what I'd walk out the door with for €68,630. Now, going euro to dollar, and if all things stay the same, I'm looking at roughly $72,419. Who knows if this is the US price. But to me, it makes sense based on what the 8Y was going for. Also, who knows what options will be available in the US. The UK gets the CF seats, so there's that, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowlski View Post
    I realize that anything is possible these days, but I'm a bit curious as to where the assumption comes from that the refreshed RS3 is going to be much more expensive than the outgoing version. It's not like this is a totally new platform, and now while I get inflation and all, I would think that Audi realizes the economics of charging 6 to 8K above current ask would mean to sales volume. My guess is the 8.5Y is going to be a few grand over current ask. I'm in the states so I can only talk from here so not sure what Canada will do or anywhere else for that matter.

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    We never got the 8Y, so the price gap between 8V and 8Y.5 is a bit of a mystery. I know for a fact when I was about to buy the 8V RS3, it was a $20k difference from the Golf R.
    My options were 1) buy a 8V RS3, 2) DAZA Golf R swap - but Innovative Motorsports dissolved. Then the 8Y was rumoured, got all excited, but got cancelled for Canada due to supply chain. Inflation hit the world, and now it's a massive mystery.

    The price gap between the Golf R and S3 was alway ridiculous, like $10-15k new, and the Golf R base (there were no options back then except DAP) was $20k.

    It's been a long wait for the RS3 for me...literally 4 years. I should have just bought the G20 M340i or B9.5 S4 when I had the chance and moved on in life, but the 8Y.5 RS3 was announced for Canada and I tied myself in with this S3....

    ...now I have rear Euro headrests to go into my RS3 on day one and the UBQ that is no longer in production.

    End of day, it really doesn't matter, I will just buy the 'RS3 Lite' in the S3 worst case. The things I don't like in the 8Y will be fixed (suspension is too soft, lack of rear diff). The EA888 EVO4 has been awesome, the only gripe now is the TCU tune is missing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyH View Post
    We never got the 8Y, so the price gap between 8V and 8Y.5 is a bit of a mystery. I know for a fact when I was about to buy the 8V RS3, it was a $20k difference from the Golf R.
    My options were 1) buy a 8V RS3, 2) DAZA Golf R swap - but Innovative Motorsports dissolved. Then the 8Y was rumoured, got all excited, but got cancelled for Canada due to supply chain. Inflation hit the world, and now it's a massive mystery.

    The price gap between the Golf R and S3 was alway ridiculous, like $10-15k new, and the Golf R base (there were no options back then except DAP) was $20k.

    It's been a long wait for the RS3 for me...literally 4 years. I should have just bought the G20 M340i or B9.5 S4 when I had the chance and moved on in life, but the 8Y.5 RS3 was announced for Canada and I tied myself in with this S3....

    ...now I have rear Euro headrests to go into my RS3 on day one and the UBQ that is no longer in production.

    End of day, it really doesn't matter, I will just buy the 'RS3 Lite' in the S3. The things I don't like in the 8Y will be fixed (suspension is too soft, lack of rear diff). The EA888 EVO4 has been awesome, the only gripe now is the TCU tune is missing
    Yeah I guess for you guys up in Canada it's a bit of a different situation. Btw, would it have been possible to buy an 8Y RS3 in the states and simply drive it back home?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowlski View Post
    Yeah I guess for you guys up in Canada it's a bit of a different situation. Btw, would it have been possible to buy an 8Y RS3 in the states and simply drive it back home?

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    ya but that brings it up to $90k CAD or base M3 money...and the fact that people were paying thousands over MSRP for a RS3 in the US, I would likely even be able to get a M3 Comp for the same price. That's why if Audi thinks $80k CAD base for a RS3 is going to fly, the second you put options on the car, you are getting into M3 territory lol good bye sales
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyH View Post
    ya but that brings it up to $90k CAD or base M3 money...and the fact that people were paying thousands over MSRP for a RS3 in the US, I would likely even be able to get a M3 Comp for the same price. That's why if Audi thinks $80k CAD base for a RS3 is going to fly, the second you put options on the car, you are getting into M3 territory lol good bye sales
    That's crazy. What's the reasoning for this? I would think Audi pricing their entry level RS car in M3 territory is a dumb idea, no? Or is it more to do with tariffs and other costs not directly associated with Audi. Well unfortunately though, I posted a few minutes ago that I was able to build a new RS3 on their UK site. By the time I was done my tab hit $72,400 roughly. If I convert that to Canadian, we are topping $101k CAD. I guess if true M3 here you come!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowlski View Post
    Messed around on the Audi.uk build my own for the new RS3.
    Seems just about everything I am considering for options are there. However, I can not determine the difference between the carbon black trim line vs. the Vorsprung trim line. The Vorsprung states steel brakes and not CC, with the metallic 10 spoke rims for almost 10k euros more. The top speed goes up, yes, but makes no claim to tire choice, etc, assume the R is there? Guess leave that to the salesperson to iron out, but not sure all things withstanding if the price jump to the Vors is worth it. Btw, I want the gray 10 spoke rims, and that's not an option in the Vorsprung package.
    The disappointing part so far with regards to interior choices is that I don't see where you can choose to have Alcantara on the steering wheel with a noon marker, on the dash, arm rests, red accents, etc.. it would be nice to have that option.
    All in all, I built what I think would be what I'd walk out the door with for €68,630. Now, going euro to dollar, and if all things stay the same, I'm looking at roughly $72,419. Who knows if this is the US price. But to me, it makes sense based on what the 8Y was going for. Also, who knows what options will be available in the US. The UK gets the CF seats, so there's that, too.
    Have fun playing around if you like. Curious what you think.

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    Was it 68K in euros or pounds? In pounds that would be ~$85K US. But obviously pricing is not one-to-one between markets.

    I was curious to see this review where the driver had gearbox issues in multiple '25s. Has anyone here had any gearbox problems on their 8Y? Between my two 8Ys and a few friends with them I have not heard of any issues, but curious if anyone else has. Hopefully with the 8.5Y they can fix this before release?

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    You are all working yourselves up for zero reason

    Pricing absolutely 100% does not scale country to country. Comparatively, the pricing from Audi USA on like for like models is the lowest in the world. Lower than Germany traditionally.

    When pricing is announced, you’ll know it. Till then, conjecture doesn’t really do much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMode View Post
    You are all working yourselves up for zero reason

    Pricing absolutely 100% does not scale country to country. Comparatively, the pricing from Audi USA on like for like models is the lowest in the world. Lower than Germany traditionally.

    When pricing is announced, you’ll know it. Till then, conjecture doesn’t really do much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StrongOnline007 View Post
    Was it 68K in euros or pounds? In pounds that would be ~$85K US. But obviously pricing is not one-to-one between markets.

    I was curious to see this review where the driver had gearbox issues in multiple '25s. Has anyone here had any gearbox problems on their 8Y? Between my two 8Ys and a few friends with them I have not heard of any issues, but curious if anyone else has. Hopefully with the 8.5Y they can fix this before release?
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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    This subject comes up from time to time. Cost to option something on a new car versus the actual cost of the parts themselves.

    Remember that when you option parts on a new car on the configurator the price of the original standard sport seats is being deducted from the total price of the bucket seats.

    A pair of standard sport seats like these cars have stock are $13150MSRP cost. Obviously that full cost isn't being factored into the new car price, but quite a bit of it.

    This means when you select an optional item like bucket seats all that is being added is the additional cost of the bucket seats from that of the cost of the standard sport seats. You are not getting the bucket seats for $3200.

    Just to make math simple, $13510 = Standard Sport Seats + $3200 = $16350 = Bucket Seats

    Note that is just example math as it's impossible to say what Audi's exact amount is per sport or bucket seat baked into a new car cost.

    Also note that replacement/spare parts are more expensive when purchased separate of a new car build.

    The RS4/5 Competition Plus Seats that you see on the site are all of the spare parts (well over 100 individual parts), including the added North American specific occupancy system for the passenger's seat that is not part of the bucket seating and complete assembly.

    Hopefully that makes sense of why optioning a part on a configurator seems so much cheaper than buying the parts after the fact separately.

    Also unfortunately these bucket seats will never come to the US or Canadian market. They do not have the needed occupancy sensor system in the passenger's seat making them unsuitable for the North American market.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stummiller View Post
    Hi Alex, I think I saw these seats on europrice.us for $17,000. What else is required to fit these in a US spec car and anything extra needed to retain full airbag functionality?


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    I think that's why they aren't making it to the USA because they don't have the safety features, aka airbags required here. I could be wrong.

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    My dealer returned from meetings and was told by Audi Canada that order guides and pricing would be out in about a week. Delivery likely summer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholascanada View Post
    My dealer returned from meetings and was told by Audi Canada that order guides and pricing would be out in about a week. Delivery likely summer.
    Sounds close to what my dealer here in the NE part of the US is saying as well. Good news!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicholascanada View Post
    My dealer returned from meetings and was told by Audi Canada that order guides and pricing would be out in about a week. Delivery likely summer.
    I wonder if it will be safe to assume the options offered for the Canadian market will be the same for the US market..

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    Canada spec seems in-line with the EU, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the US order guides and pricing still don’t show up until early next year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRated_ View Post
    Canada spec seems in-line with the EU, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the US order guides and pricing still don’t show up until early next year.


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    Interesting. Well, my dealer is saying order guide and pricing in Jan, orders in Feb/March only. So sounds about correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stummiller View Post
    Hi Alex, I think I saw these seats on europrice.us for $17,000. What else is required to fit these in a US spec car and anything extra needed to retain full airbag functionality?
    Nothing additional is needed parts wise. The seats are prepared with the proper side airbags for these seats along with the passenger's side occupancy sensor. Once the seats are installed then the occupancy sensor needs a basic setting and you should be all set with the full safety system.

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    It's a bit shocking, pricing was supposed to be released in October for Canada, according to Audi Canada. Order books opening in November.

    I'm sure from a consumer standpoint, it's frustrating. It's a different stress I am sure at Audi in general they are facing...

    Seems like too there is a 'canary in the coal mine' here in Canada. I am sure we are going to blame Trump for tariffs, but even before any of that will have started...creating sales tax exemptions going into the Christmas season (December 15th) but more importantly lasting until February 15th at both the federal and provincial levels is not a good sign. At least I don't remember in my working career having ever seen this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyH View Post
    It's a bit shocking, pricing was supposed to be released in October for Canada, according to Audi Canada. Order books opening in November.

    I'm sure from a consumer standpoint, it's frustrating. It's a different stress I am sure at Audi in general they are facing...

    Seems like too there is a 'canary in the coal mine' here in Canada. I am sure we are going to blame Trump for tariffs, but even before any of that will have started...creating sales tax exemptions going into the Christmas season (December 15th) but more importantly lasting until February 15th at both the federal and provincial levels is not a good sign. At least I don't remember in my working career having ever seen this.
    I have a feeling you'll see something soon. Maybe Audi NA will open the CA order books the same time as the US. I was told the US is expected in Jan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowlski View Post
    I have a feeling you'll see something soon. Maybe Audi NA will open the CA order books the same time as the US. I was told the US is expected in Jan

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    Whatever it is... The division that oversees sales in the north American market..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowlski View Post
    Whatever it is... The division that oversees sales in the north American market..

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    That was what I was getting at. There is no such entity. Audi Canada and Audi USA have nothing at all to do with one another. They are 2 completely separate organizations with zero crossover. They aren’t different regional offices or something along those lines. What one does has no bearing and no influence on the other.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMode View Post
    That was what I was getting at. There is no such entity. Audi Canada and Audi USA have nothing at all to do with one another. They are 2 completely separate organizations with zero crossover. They aren’t different regional offices or something along those lines. What one does has no bearing and no influence on the other.


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    So who handles the business of selling Audis in the north east? Is it Audi Corporate in Germany?? Someone is at the least guiding Canada and US sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowlski View Post
    So who handles the business of selling Audis in the north east?

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    Audi USA handles importation and distribution of cars in the US only. Audi Canada does it for Canada. They have wholly separate staff, backend systems, directors. They are completely independent companies.

    Audi USA is then divided in geographical regions. There’s 3 regions in total as I recall. Central, South and Northeast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMode View Post
    Audi USA handles importation and distribution of cars in the US only. Audi Canada does it for Canada. They have wholly separate staff, backend systems, directors. They are completely independent companies.

    Audi USA is then divided in geographical regions. There’s 3 regions in total as I recall. Central, South and Northeast.


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    I can understand all that. But there has to be a centralized parent that directs each of these regional divisions as you've described. What I am saying is although I can agree the regionals don't likely have any direct link to each other, their parent company makes the decisions that best suit the company as a whole and this could mean distro to the US AND Canada might be beneficial if its done at the same time. Or maybe not. Depends.

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    I mean, it was literally just the case that audi ca didn't bring the RS3 that was in usa...

    They don't use the same option package schemes and there are routinely differences in release schedules and available options.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowlski View Post
    I can understand all that. But there has to be a centralized parent that directs each of these regional divisions as you've described. What I am saying is although I can agree the regionals don't likely have any direct link to each other, their parent company makes the decisions that best suit the company as a whole and this could mean distro to the US AND Canada might be beneficial if its done at the same time. Or maybe not. Depends.

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    There’s a manufacturing arm, and then individual distribution arms, by country. It’s like that for every single country they sell to. Like most any large multinational. New Zealand and Australia don’t even share a distribution network. Austria and Germany don’t share a distributor.

    For the US vs Canada, not sure how or why it would be beneficial, or even purposeful, where one market sells 10 fold what the other does. The product mix, option sets, currency, laws, taxes, governments, all have zero to do with one another. There’s no commonality beyond the fact that both countries have a distribution arm. The only thing shared is the only thing they realistically can share - space on the ships that transport the cars.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RMode View Post
    There’s a manufacturing arm, and then individual distribution arms, by country. It’s like that for every single country they sell to. Like most any large multinational. New Zealand and Australia don’t even share a distribution network. Austria and Germany don’t share a distributor.

    For the US vs Canada, not sure how or why it would be beneficial, or even purposeful, where one market sells 10 fold what the other does. The product mix, option sets, currency, laws, taxes, governments, all have zero to do with one another. There’s no commonality beyond the fact that both countries have a distribution arm. The only thing shared is the only thing they realistically can share - space on the ships that transport the cars.


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    Gotcha. Let's just hope we hear something soon. Fingers crossed

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    FWIW our sales guy called me yesterday to check in, and he said he won't be getting the 2025 model till 2026 most likely.

    I don't personally believe him, but maybe Audi is having problems getting them here

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    didn't see this till now lol

    https://www.dilawri.ca/en/news/view/...sepower/135313

    Who has a Dilawri Audi near them? If it's $62,900, I would buy two, with one that goes into storage until the one I am driving dies.

    "Performance doesn’t come without a price, but for the 2025 Audi RS3, it’s worth every penny. The RS3 starts at $62,900*, offering a mix of luxury and performance that’s hard to beat in its class. With the available packages and customizations, you can tailor the RS3 to fit your exact needs—whether you're looking for additional tech, sports enhancements, or luxury upgrades."
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyH View Post
    didn't see this till now lol

    https://www.dilawri.ca/en/news/view/...sepower/135313

    Who has a Dilawri Audi near them? If it's $62,900, I would buy two, with one that goes into storage until the one I am driving dies.

    "Performance doesn’t come without a price, but for the 2025 Audi RS3, it’s worth every penny. The RS3 starts at $62,900*, offering a mix of luxury and performance that’s hard to beat in its class. With the available packages and customizations, you can tailor the RS3 to fit your exact needs—whether you're looking for additional tech, sports enhancements, or luxury upgrades."
    But they are showing an 8Y in the ad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9kracing View Post
    FWIW our sales guy called me yesterday to check in, and he said he won't be getting the 2025 model till 2026 most likely.

    I don't personally believe him, but maybe Audi is having problems getting them here
    Interesting. I also read the 2026 RS5 is debuting soon in 2025. I think the auto industry is in a funk all around so who knows what's true and what's chatter

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    Just spoke to my local dealer, who is usually fairly in tune with things and they stated that the 25s won't hit until late Summer/Fall next year. Then the question of ADM comes into play. Just wondering if its worth it to jump in a 24 now at or below MSRP and save the headache.

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    I mean, good for y'all canadians if thats a true price buy buy buy, but how could it possibly be true that a 2025 RS3 starts at just $600 more than the base price of the 2024 in USD?

    For comparison, the 2024 RS5 in the US is around $81k no option and the CAD price for the same car is around 95k

    By the same scale, 2024 RS3 into CAD would be $73k
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    Yeah that price is almost certainly made up... I'd consider even $75k CAD to be surprisingly low. There's tons of facelifted S3s hitting dealership lots now around $70-75k MSRP - though they are pretty much fully-loaded, but I don't think they have much of anything that the base RS3 isn't expected to have.

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