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    dipstick 3.0 TDI

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    Hello All, I am tired of waiting for mmi to show level. I have a 2015 3.0TDI. I tried to find a right part number but too long. It was from a Q7 TDI. I am having a hard time to find the correct one. I hope someone here has the correct one. I do not know why Audi went solely with mmi without having a back up in case of failure.

    Thanks for looking

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    The B8 vehicles do not have physical sticks. There are defined values for the calibration tool (T40178) for the display, but no physical sticks, not from Audi at least.

    The 4L Q7 came out the year before the B8 and is not MLB based, so it still had physical sticks for its engines. Were you trying the 059 115 611 AA stick for the CATA engine or the 059 115 611 AM stick for the CNRB engine? The CPNB in the Q5 is of the same family as the CNRB; the CATA is a previous V6 TDI generation engine. Based on the T40178 numbers for the CPNB, you'd need a stick that was 467mm from "top" to full, and then 12mm from full to min.
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    I got this one and had it calibrated by the Dealership.
    Adjustable Oil Level Dipstick Gauge Tool Replacement for Audi A6 A5 A4 2.0L 3.2L 4.2L Engine T40178 From Amazon.

    Do a search on this site and AudiWorld. There was a long discussion a while back.

    From the original post:

    Got this one on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07R7QY3ZH...roduct_details

    Went to the dealer and had it calibrated for my 3.0 TDI. Top adjuster ring was set at 93. Oil measurement should be between 12-14 on the oil level display. Looks just like the one that the dealer uses.
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    thank you for the information. Hopefully I find the right dipstick. In the mean time I will get the adjustable and go from there

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    Quote Originally Posted by audi fsi View Post
    Hello All, I am tired of waiting for mmi to show level. I have a 2015 3.0TDI. I tried to find a right part number but too long. It was from a Q7 TDI. I am having a hard time to find the correct one. I hope someone here has the correct one. I do not know why Audi went solely with mmi without having a back up in case of failure.

    Thanks for looking

    Tube for oil dipstick is : 059115630AH for 2.7 / 3.0TDI engine, it fits oil dipstick for 3.0TDI: 059115611AB

    Attached is a table for using the T40178 oil dipstick

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    The T40178 is a calibration tool, not a dipstick per se, in that you can't leave it in the engine all the time. You can use it for the task, but then put the normal tube plug back in and put the tool in the tool box.

    For the CPNB 3.0 TDI in the NAR B8.5 Q5, the correct adjuster ring value is 87, not 93. Could be 87 on one side of the slider is 93 on the other side? I would expect the tool to make clear where to read the set value. And 12 on the lower scale is full.

    059115611AB is fine to use if it measures as I earlier specified. Otherwise, it's not the correct specs for a CPNB.
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    I just went through this for my 4L Q7. Follow what SMAC has said. You will need the part number ending in AM as SMAC highlighted.


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    T4017 oil gauge tester that is used in service stations, and it is normal that it cannot stay in the engine


    All measurements and specifications that are attached are from the official electronic service program, if you say that they are not correct, please contact Audi Germany regarding false data.



    TSB

    Checking engine oil level with dipstick T40178

    https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...23763-9999.pdf
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    My mistake in reading the oil calibration tool. It is set at 87.
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    Spijun 059-115-611-AB there is no record of this dip stick from Audi North America. Is this stick only available in Europe

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    AB was used in the V6 TDI in the B8 A4/A5 prior to the switch to the electronic display system during MY08. But the T40178 numbers for those engines are very different from the numbers for the CPNB in the B8.5 Q5.

    AB stick for CAM, CAP, CGK, and CCW EA896 B8.0 engines, whose T40178 numbers are 32 adjustment ring, 16 full, and 0 min.
    Which is quite different from the numbers for the CPNB EA897 B8.5 engine, which are 87 adjustment ring, 12 full, and 0 min.
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    I ordered one from Amazon and it was too long for my Q5 3.0T TFSI. I returned and got this one and it works. https://a.co/d/3AvLexZ

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkornegay2 View Post
    I ordered one from Amazon and it was too long for my Q5 3.0T TFSI. I returned and got this one and it works. https://a.co/d/3AvLexZ
    But the TDI may be different.

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    And I leave it in the engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by audi fsi View Post
    Spijun 059-115-611-AB there is no record of this dip stick from Audi North America. Is this stick only available in Europe
    Try find 059115611AM
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    I have 059115611 AM and this dipstick is too long for the Q5 TDI

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    I already posted the measurements necessary for the CPNB. What are the measurements of the AM stick?
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    I have an extra AM stick. I can take measurements.


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    I finally got my dipstick from Europe 059 1145 611 AB and this is too long. Its even longer than AM dipstick.
    from the collar to the full mark 515mm.
    Is there a chart indicating length for dipstick part numbers

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    059 115 611 AM is 490mm from collar to full mark

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    There's no length specs for the real dipsticks, there's just the "correct one for a specific engine". The reason they have a real dipstick is because they don't have the digital display system in the vehicles that use that engine. The measurements out there are the settings for the T40178 calibration tool, for those engines in vehicles with the digital display system. Once the distance between the two scales on the T40178 was known, it's just math from there.

    As I mentioned earlier, the AB stick is for the EA896 3.0 TDI. The MY08 A5/A4 were the first vehicles to implement the digital display, so we have both a stick and T40178 values for those engines. At 32,16,0, then we knew the AB stick was going to be 518mm top to full, and 16mm full to min.

    The AM stick is for the EA897 3.0 TDI (CNRB) in the Q7. There are no T40178 values for that. So it turns out to be around 490mm top to full. Depending on the full to min distance, they could use that stick in the B9 Gen3 2.0T (CYMC, DPBA), which has T40178 values for 490mm top to full and 16mm full to min.

    But for the EA897 3.0 TDI (CPNB) in the Q5, A6, A7, A8 in the mid 2010s, the numbers are 467mm and 12mm. No idea what physical stick out there might measure to that.

    Though the CNRB and CPNB are both the same family engine, they are different. The CNRB uses 8.1 qt of oil, while the CPNB uses 6.8 qt, e.g..

    It will probably be easiest to just get a T40178 knock off from Amazon and keep that in the vehicle. You can't keep it in the dipstick tube, but you can still put it in the spare tire well.
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    My Q5 CPNB, I will have to look for something relatively close. I might go to the wreaking yard and start measuring

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