ASR valve control

[skinnyD]

Anyone do the ASR valve control mod over a hardware change like a mid pipe and does it make a big difference?

I have the sport exhaust

Is the valve control just mimicking the sound you get when you in RS performance over 4K rpm but just in lower rev range or does it do something completely different ?


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[kevin#34]

I have ASR module on my TT-RS and I think it's worth the money, but I don't think it increases the overall sound level, if you are looking for this, you have to work on the exhaust line (replacing the EOM midpipes and/or downpipe). When I replaced the OEM downpipe in favour of an hi-flow Milltek downpipe+midpipes, the sound has completely trasnformed both in terms of dB and note...

[skinnyD]

I have ASR module on my TT-RS and I think it's worth the money, but I don't think it increases the overall sound level, if you are looking for this, you have to work on the exhaust line (replacing the EOM midpipes and/or downpipe). When I replaced the OEM downpipe in favour of an hi-flow Milltek downpipe+midpipes, the sound has completely trasnformed both in terms of dB and note...

Thanks for the feedback.
The issue I have it with warranty in my country. So hardware mods will be a problem.

If I can emulate the sound when it’s in RS performance but in comfort mode then I’m happy


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[Jetdriver]

I have ASR module on my TT-RS and I think it's worth the money, but I don't think it increases the overall sound level, if you are looking for this, you have to work on the exhaust line (replacing the EOM midpipes and/or downpipe). When I replaced the OEM downpipe in favour of an hi-flow Milltek downpipe+midpipes, the sound has completely trasnformed both in terms of dB and note...

So what would you say is the advantage of the ASR module is, then?

[grandpab]

Thanks for the feedback.
The issue I have it with warranty in my country. So hardware mods will be a problem.

If I can emulate the sound when it’s in RS performance but in comfort mode then I’m happy


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It'll do that for you. It isn't emulating anything though, there's no imitating. If you're in comfort you can open the valves like it's in race mode. For at least a month now I've been driving around in comfort, but with the valves wide open.

[kevin#34]

as above.
main advantage of the ASR module is the flaps autonomous management possibility.
almost undetectable by Audi (can be easily reverted to std mode with a press of the S&S button)
last but not the last, can deactivate S&S permantenly (ok, not of interest for you US model owners), that from 19 YM cannot be done on the usual way (VCDS) anymore

[integroid]

Any of the Valve controllers do just that, control the factory exhaust valves so you can keep them open at all times instead of only in certain modes.

[4g63turbo]

I installed the Cete valve controller on my vehicle as first mod- Best money spent so far, this is how the car should sound from the factory with valves open.
In my opinion its worth the money just for the fact that you don't have to put the car into dynamic mode every time you start it and you want the flaps open. Also i noticed previously even in the dynamic mode when the rpms would go down bellow 1500rpm the flaps would partially close, now they stay permanently open and it makes the car sound so much better in the lower rpms

[jl87]

Also i noticed previously even in the dynamic mode when the rpms would go down bellow 1500rpm the flaps would partially close, now they stay permanently open and it makes the car sound so much better in the lower rpms

Exactly this. Even in Dynamic + S the flaps will still open and close at low rpm/load. I added an AWE exhaust to my RS3 and couldn't believe how terrible it was due to the OE valve logic. It was constantly getting louder or quieter depending on load.
After installing the CETE valve controller, it was much better and a more consistent sound.

[skinnyD]

Just had this installed. Noticeable difference in all driving modes.
I’m quite impressed


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[brad65ford]

Technically one could unbolt the valve controllers (leave them plugged in) and force position to flaps open to achieve the same. Was planning on doing this prior purchasing any controller to see how it sounds etc..

[Jetdriver]

Technically one could unbolt the valve controllers (leave them plugged in) and force position to flaps open to achieve the same. Was planning on doing this prior purchasing any controller to see how it sounds etc..

Won't that trip a code?

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[brad65ford]

Unfortunately yes you do get a check engine light since there needs to be positions that the valve stops at unless I made a bracket to duplicate the awe does It will blow a check light I actually did it today. It keeps the functionality still working it has no idea that there’s nothing there or nothing to rotating Personally, I do not like doing anything with these newer canbus Audi’s, they’re so sensitive. Only neg about this modification is you can’t put in to comfort quiet mode, but it’s easily reversible. Wired the valve forced closed so no rattling and mounted the valve offset to the stock mount so it could rotate as it would normally do. Pretty impressed how it came up. Will post pictures if anyone wants to duplicate. Also getting rear resonators cut out and straight piped. Did this before on one of the 8v Rs3’s I’ve had.

[RScheiss3]

Unfortunately yes you do get a check engine light since there needs to be positions that the valve stops at unless I made a bracket to duplicate the awe does It will blow a check light I actually did it today. It keeps the functionality still working it has no idea that there’s nothing there or nothing to rotating Personally, I do not like doing anything with these newer canbus Audi’s, they’re so sensitive. Only neg about this modification is you can’t put in to comfort quiet mode, but it’s easily reversible. Wired the valve forced closed so no rattling and mounted the valve offset to the stock mount so it could rotate as it would normally do. Pretty impressed how it came up. Will post pictures if anyone wants to duplicate. Also getting rear resonators cut out and straight piped. Did this before on one of the 8v Rs3’s I’ve had.

Just FYI when you do this and get the CEL, your ECU will pull power at higher RPMs it's been shown on other forums

[brad65ford]

Just FYI when you do this and get the CEL, your ECU will pull power at higher RPMs it's been shown on other forums

I thought so too since it did this on our C8 RS6, totally can feel the difference. Though I don't believe it did this on the 8Y rs3, felt the same. Usually I have an extremely sensitive butt dyno , no need to brake out the dragy I felt lol.

Also if anyone does do this, it moves the valves actuators to a position you can't re-install so easily. Had to plug them in and let them go backwards while running, then up plug. Shut car off and quickly plug them in to which they started moving clockwise again. A little tricky to do but really the only way I could figure out since they can not be moved manually, assuming VCDS could do similar but didn't go that route. Long story short, the check engine went away after driving off thankfully.

Need one of these, would be cool to see them offered somewhere as a item. You can see that there is a stop to one side, assuming that is when its at rest (open/clockwise position)

[skinnyD]

Can’t understand why you would do an extreme hardware mod for a valve control when it can be done with the asr or cete module.


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[brad65ford]

Honestly I don't, though regarding your not understanding why some people like to mod or alter things themselves at times when they have the ability to instead of purchasing something. I'm not sure how to help explain this any better.

[skinnyD]

4 months with the ASR and really enjoying it.
Here is a soundclip

Soundclip below

https://streamable.com/te0gyj


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[GTItoS4]

Otherwise stock? Sounds good.

[skinnyD]

Otherwise stock? Sounds good.

Yes completely stock. No mid pipe or down pipe as this affects the maintenance plan and warranty the car has in my country


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[StrongOnline007]

I just installed the ASR controller and so far it feels worth it — it feels like the car should've come this way. Totally stock US car otherwise.

[TSoich]

The ASR CB2-SSA instructions still have this note:

Series mode / workshop mode:
The module is activated or deactivated via a key combination. When the module is deactivated, everything behaves as if no
module were installed.

Any idea what that means? And how to "... via a key combination"?

[grandpab]

You can turn it on or off. When it's on you have the ability to open and close the valves when you want. When it's off it goes back to behaving exactly like oem, like you don't have a valve controller installed.

[Heat00]

Wow! That’s what I’m talking about ! You just cost me about 500$? lol. Wish we could just pull the fuse like on my bmw, free same result lol

[Heat00]

You can turn it on or off. When it's on you have the ability to open and close the valves when you want. When it's off it goes back to behaving exactly like oem, like you don't have a valve controller installed.

a link would be great if you have to a good place to buy... also hows the install? does this require ripping apart the dash or something lol...

[NapalmEnema]

I installed the Cete valve controller on my vehicle as first mod- Best money spent so far, this is how the car should sound from the factory with valves open.
In my opinion its worth the money just for the fact that you don't have to put the car into dynamic mode every time you start it and you want the flaps open. Also i noticed previously even in the dynamic mode when the rpms would go down bellow 1500rpm the flaps would partially close, now they stay permanently open and it makes the car sound so much better in the lower rpms

You're probably losing power though elminating the backpressure down low. While a sound 'negative' I don't want to do these things because of the loss of power in the low RPM's with that backpressure eliminated.

[Rguy]

Mind showing me where back pressure has EVER increased horsepower in any way?

[NapalmEnema]

Mind showing me where back pressure has EVER increased horsepower in any way?

For small engine turbo cars I've experienced it first hand with my buddies Mitsubishi Evolution - when the backpressure was reduced low end power was sacrificed. Assumed that's why Audi does it with this car to get that extra bit out off the line / lower RPM with the same small engine turbo setup. Seems logical and why would they go to so much trouble when it should be simple - flap open - flap closed. Instead they went to all the trouble of tuning the car to open flaps various degrees depending on RPM and load. Seems that'd be the reason for it. Is the power loss fall on your face noticeable? Not excessively but I wager it's still present based on the above. I'm sure the sensation would be more noticeable with the completely gutless 2.0 Mitsubishi motor vs the 2.5 but feel it would still be there.

[Jetdriver]

Don't lug the engine.

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[NapalmEnema]

Don't lug the engine.

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Not in a lugging engine scenario bud - just normal driving off the line and such. No worries agree to disagree have a good one

[itr325]

Are the only places to get the ASR controller form overseas? It's significantly cheaper than the CETE and does the same thing.

[grandpab]

Are the only places to get the ASR controller form overseas? It's significantly cheaper than the CETE and does the same thing.

If it's shipping you're worried about they're fast shippers. I ordered mine and it was only like 3 days later it arrived.

[itr325]

Nope, just didn't know if there were any dealers in the US.

[[email protected]]

Are the only places to get the ASR controller form overseas? It's significantly cheaper than the CETE and does the same thing.

This doesn't entirely seem to be the case when exchange, higher cost shipping and possible customs duty is factored in when comparing the CB2 to the CETE valve controllers. When all is said and done ordering through ASR (if you can get their website to work well) costs look essentially the same depending on the exchange when ordering.

CETE 8V and 8Y RS3 valve controllers are in stock in the US and ready to go!

Website Link: CETE Automotive A3, S3, RS3 8V | '14-'20 Products <-Click Link for More Information

Website Link: CETE Automotive A3, S3, RS3 8Y | '21+ Products <-Click Link for More Information

If anyone has any questions on the benefits of the CETE setup or needs further info feel free to email anytime: [email protected]

Cheers,

[itr325]

This doesn't entirely seem to be the case when exchange, higher cost shipping and possible customs duty is factored in when comparing the CB2 to the CETE valve controllers. When all is said and done ordering through ASR (if you can get their website to work well) costs look essentially the same depending on the exchange when ordering.

CETE 8V and 8Y RS3 valve controllers are in stock in the US and ready to go!

Website Link: CETE Automotive A3, S3, RS3 8V | '14-'20 Products <-Click Link for More Information

Website Link: CETE Automotive A3, S3, RS3 8Y | '21+ Products <-Click Link for More Information

If anyone has any questions on the benefits of the CETE setup or needs further info feel free to email anytime: [email protected]

Cheers,

466.97 shipped compared to $595.38....That's a sizable price difference for the exact same product.

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466.97 shipped compared to $595.38....That's a sizable price difference for the exact same product.

ASR with 60Euro shipping via UPS with possible brokerage and customs duty costs it will likely come out to around the same pricing. Can't comment how they classify their product for export and how much UPS would charge for brokerage fees.

The CETE standard valve controller is $550 and average shipping around $20 in the lower 48 states, so around $570. Sales tax only applies to purchases shipped to TX so that might be why your CETE price is a bit high, but sales tax would not apply to your listed location. No possible customs costs or brokerage fees plus 1-4 business days to all locations in the US.

Cheers,

[itr325]

ASR with 60Euro shipping via UPS with possible brokerage and customs duty costs it will likely come out to around the same pricing. Can't comment how they classify their product for export and how much UPS would charge for brokerage fees.

The CETE standard valve controller is $550 and average shipping around $20 in the lower 48 states, so around $570. Sales tax only applies to purchases shipped to TX so that might be why your CETE price is a bit high, but sales tax would not apply to your listed location. No possible customs costs or brokerage fees plus 1-4 business days to all locations in the US.

Cheers,

Shipping is $48 and no tax no fees or duty, VAT included. Add the $20 for shipping and the CETE is now over $600. Not trying to start a war, just don't want to spend more for the same product.

[grandpab]

466.97 shipped compared to $595.38....That's a sizable price difference for the exact same product.

Looks like ASR is $407 shipped right now.

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Can't comment how they classify their product for export and how much UPS would charge for brokerage fees.

I didn't have any additional fees.

[itr325]

Looks like ASR is $407 shipped right now.

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I didn't have any additional fees.

From where?

[grandpab]

From where?

Straight from ASR. https://asr-component.de/gb/audi/179...eft_hand_drive

€391.93 shipped, should be $406.94 after being converted right?