Has anyone found a cable or USB-C adapter to connect an iPhone 15 to a MMI 3G?

[ZaneS4]

I bought this product hoping it might work with my new iPhone and it does not charge or able to play music.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

[Smac770]

The cable says it's specifically for MMI 3G+. Do you have a B8.5 with 3G+ (HN+)? Or just a B8.0 with 3G (HNav)?

Why not just use the actual Audi Lightning AMI cable and use a lightning to usb-c cable? Having a USB-C port on the AMI cable vs a Lightning port is a meaningless accomplishment.

[ZaneS4]

I have a 2010 B8 without Bluetooth music playback capability.

There is no USB-C cable or lightening to USB-C adapter that be used to with the existing AMI to lightning cable as far as I know.

If anyone can find me a working solution for even music(charging isn’t a requirement, I will gift you $50). I hope I can pay someone for their help..lol

[Smac770]

MY10 would be MMI 3G High (HNav).

Wouldn't you just use the normal Audi Lightning AMI cable (the white ringed one, for HNav - https://parts.audiusa.com/p/53613605/4F0051510AC.html) and an Apple USB-C to Lightning adapter (https://www.apple.com/shop/product/M...ning-adapter)? With a (quality) Lightning extension cable between if desired?

[ZaneS4]

I have a 2010 B8 without Bluetooth music playback capability.

There is no USB-C cable or lightening to USB-C adapter that be used to with the existing AMI to lightning cable as far as I know.

If anyone can find me a working solution for even music(charging isn’t a requirement, I will gift you $50). I hope I can pay someone for their help..lol

[SwankPeRFection]

Are you sure the lightening to USBC adapter that Apple put out doesn’t work? I don’t see why not. It’s the second one linked 2 posts up.

[SwankPeRFection]

Also, there’s plenty of AMI Bluetooth dongles on Amazon that are high quality which will work. I use one in mine and works pretty well.

[ZaneS4]

I have the Audi Lightening AMI cable already. I will order the Apple Lightening to USB-C adaptor and give it a try. DM me your PayPal address because I would love to take care of you for your help!

[ZaneS4]

I have the Audi Lightening AMI cable already. I will order the Apple Lightening to USB-C adaptor and give it a try. DM me your PayPal address because I would love to take care of you for your help!

[Smac770]

I have the Audi Lightening AMI cable already. I will order the Apple Lightening to USB-C adaptor and give it a try. DM me your PayPal address because I would love to take care of you for your help!

Fired you a PM.

[ZaneS4]

MY10 would be MMI 3G High (HNav).

Wouldn't you just use the normal Audi Lightning AMI cable (the white ringed one, for HNav - https://parts.audiusa.com/p/53613605/4F0051510AC.html) and an Apple USB-C to Lightning adapter (https://www.apple.com/shop/product/M...ning-adapter)? With a (quality) Lightning extension cable between if desired?

I bought both of these products and while my iPhone 15 Pro can charge, I receive the AMI Note "No device connected." This is extremely frustrating knowing that it is able to connect and charge but not play music. Another thing I have noticed is that my iPhone 15 Pro will lose bluetooth connection after making a call or two and I need to reconnect it. Perhaps an iOS update will fix this issue. I guess using the latest 2023 Bluetooth technology with a 2010 vehicle might not be the best match.

As this stage, I am looking to purchase a Bovee tune2air for $90 on Amazon to stream music from my iPhone. Has anyone successfully used this product with a new iPhone 15 or 15 Pro on a B8?

https://www.amazon.com/Bovee-Wireles.../dp/B00R2HZ1XU

[SwankPeRFection]

Don’t buy that. This is a better option and works. It’s what I use.

CHOOCL Bluetooth 5.0 aptX-HD Car Adapter Compatible for Audi MMI 3G AMI Music Interface,Audi Symphony,Audi Concert,Mercedes Media Interface and Volkswagen MDI Connector(A1-3000A) https://a.co/d/icMCocl

[ZaneS4]

Don’t buy that. This is a better option and works. It’s what I use.

CHOOCL Bluetooth 5.0 aptX-HD Car Adapter Compatible for Audi MMI 3G AMI Music Interface,Audi Symphony,Audi Concert,Mercedes Media Interface and Volkswagen MDI Connector(A1-3000A) https://a.co/d/icMCocl

Thanks for the feedback! What is better about it? Also, have you tested with iOS 17?

[SwankPeRFection]

Thanks for the feedback! What is better about it? Also, have you tested with iOS 17?

Yeah, I’m on 17, no issues. Only thing you’ll need to get used to is that if you’re using Apple Music to stream, you can’t use FF/RW to skip songs via the car controls. You’ll need to use the phone itself, but that’s a problem with the MMI itself and how the streaming works on Apple Music. If you’re playing music already stored local to the phone, it’s not an issue, you can skip songs via the car controls. They all have this limitation.

I don’t know what Bluetooth version the current Bovee is on, but their old one sucked ass. I’ve had this module in the car for years and it’s BT5, so much better sound quality and more stable connection.

I’m surprised you had issues with the lightening to usbc converter, if it’s the Apple one, connecting to your previous AMI cable. Are you 100% sure you don’t see the phone connected when you choose Source on the media screen?

[ZaneS4]

I am 100% sure I don't see the phone connected when I choose the source at the media screen. I know the phone is connected because it is charging though. Just for reference, I bought the car new and successfully paired multiple iPhones over the years beginning with the iiPhone 3GS.

I did buy the Audi MMI iPhone lightning cable. I bought a used one but don't think it is defective because it is able to charge the phone. I also bought a new Apple USB-C to Lightning Adapter.

[SwankPeRFection]

Let’s back up for a second. What cable were you using BEFORE the new iPhone 15? What did you use with your previous iPhones?

If it was an AMI to listening cable and since you know THAT cable worked with those phone, have you tried simply plugging the new adapter into that cable and then the phone?

Also, remember that the newer versions of iOS and iPhones require “Trust” access to be granted to anything plugged into them to give access to more than just charging. Make sure you’ve unlocked the phone and answer Trust to the prompt when you plug the phone in or it won’t ever show up on the MMI.

[ZaneS4]

Let’s back up for a second. What cable were you using BEFORE the new iPhone 15? What did you use with your previous iPhones?

If it was an AMI to listening cable and since you know THAT cable worked with those phone, have you tried simply plugging the new adapter into that cable and then the phone?

Also, remember that the newer versions of iOS and iPhones require “Trust” access to be granted to anything plugged into them to give access to more than just charging. Make sure you’ve unlocked the phone and answer Trust to the prompt when you plug the phone in or it won’t ever show up on the MMI.

I originally used the Audi MMI iPhone 10 pin cable that came with the car. Then I used this aftermarket MMI lightening cable which did not work with the Apple Apple USB-C to Lightning Adapter.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I am familiar what you are referring to regarding "Trust" access on these phones but not seeing that on the screen when I plug in the cable.

[Smac770]

You mean the "30-pin iPod" AMI cable?

If the AMI cable you're using is aftermarket and not Audi, replacing that is where you should start. If the aftermarket works, great. But if you have problems, having an actual Audi OE cable is always the first thing to establish.

There's 5 different AMI cables for Apple connections: three 30-pin cables and two lightning cables. They are identified by the color of the grommet around the wiring. They are all base part number 4F0 051 510, with the different revision letters reflecting the different cables:

was E, now L = black grommet = 30-pin for MMI 2G High (B8.0 >MY09)
was K, now AG = blue grommet = 30-pin for MMI 3G High (B8.0 MY10>) and MMI 3G Basic and Concert/Symphony and RNS-E (MY10+; not a B8 thing)
was R, now AJ = red grommet = 30-pin with authentication chip for MMI 3G Plus (B8.5) and RMC (not a B8 thing) and MIB1 (not a B8 thing)

blue added something that made connect/disconnect events more reliable/quicker
red added the authentication chip to enable cover art and analog video media transfer
* B8.0 MMI 3G High only uses the blue
systems that can use red can also use blue, but would lack image/video transfer ability since blue lacks the authentication chip

now AC = white grommet = lighting for all the systems that used black or blue 30-pin
was AD = green grommet = old lightning with authentication chip cable for MMI 3G Plus (B8.5) and RMC and MIB1
now AL = yellow grommet = replaced AD back in mid 2014, no idea why they changed the grommet color

So like the 30-pin, B8.0 MMI 3G would use white and cannot operate the authentication chip version (at least if you go looking, plenty of posts of "yellow didn't work, had to use white" for MMI 3G High and Basic). This I presume is the same basis for the Amazon sourced cable in the opening post stating "only get this if you have MMI 3G Plus". The listing as a whole is a bit misleading saying after that "good for 2009 A4 and on", which clearly never had MMI 3G+.


I assume you had a blue 30-pin AMI cable then. And now you have a what color lightning AMI cable? Or are you still trying to use that Amazon cable? Already mentioned that Amazon cable is a zero go for your B8.0 MMI 3G High system, according to the Amazon listing.

If you have the working blue 30-pin, you could use an Apple lighting to 30-pin adapter (and Audi is specific about using an actual Apple adapter for firmware reasons) to bridge the Apple USB-C to lightning adapter to your 30-pin AMI cable.

[SwankPeRFection]

He confused me too with that but I thought he meant 30 pin. That said, prior to getting his iPhone 15, he was on that Amazon lighting to AMI cable. It’s possible that’s why the USBC converter from Apple isn’t working with it or it’s possible converters from lighting to usbc just won’t work when it comes to current AMI cables. It’s also possible Apple put in some wacky authentication chip in the converter which controls access to data vs just access to charging power, but who knows. That cable is too big/dongly to be just a simple repin converter.

I’d say he can either wait for a new revision of AMI to usbc to come out that will work or go the Bluetooth dongle route and be done with it.

[SwankPeRFection]

Also, from the quick searches I’ve done on this, there doesn’t seem to be a reliable solution for plugging in. AMI to usbc cables either play just sound with no controls and don’t charge or they charge and don’t play at all. Maybe eventually someone will make one that has the iPod controls necessary for iPhones to work with the MMI controls, but since they just went to usbc, I don’t think anyone’s developed one yet. Go the Bluetooth route man and if you need charging, get a compact usbc charger to plug into the lighter port in the center console/armrest or the ashtray. I have one similar to this for charging needs and it sits flush and doesn’t interfere with closing stuff up to hide it when it’s left plugged in.

https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Charg...Y2hfbXRm&psc=1

[Smac770]

Thing is the AMI port is dead. Starting with MIB2, there is no more AMI port, only USB ports, on the vehicles. There won't be any more AMI cable developments from Audi.

I suspect the root issue is not having an actual Audi OE AMI lightning cable. The clones and knockoffs, while not hard to do with the AUX or USB cables, just seem to be worthless for the Apple cables. So there's only the AMI 30-pin and AMI lightning base cable, then getting that converted to whatever plug is on the phone. And make sure any lightning cables used are full 8-pin cables, not 4-pin charging only cables (also an issue with usb-C cable selection). And only use Apple OE converters (problem being Apple disco'd that lightning <> 30-pin adapter years back, iirc).

[adganga]

Has anyone figured this out? I tried the MMI lightning cable to the apple converter, but that ended up the same way

[SwankPeRFection]

Just buy the Bluetooth/AMI dongle I linked and call it a day. I haven’t used the plug in directly to phone method in years. If you need to charge the phone, buy the charger I linked. Charging via anything low AMP now on iPhone will actually mess with your battery over time because it can’t charge it while the phone may be doing more intensive tasks like navigation. On newer iPhones that is… 12 and up.

[Silver Streakin]

Same issue here with iPhone 13 and B8 S4. BT options always drop with an older Bovee. I went back to having it wired to the 30-pin extended under the dash to the shifter area, but I can't charge unless I split it off with a charger too to the cig lighter. And that old cable has been crackling. I need to do something too.

Will this work?

https://www.amazon.com/CHOOCL-Blueto...dp/B08HXWNZZV/

I don't mind charging separately but I can't seem to find a cable that'll do both for a B8.

[SwankPeRFection]

Yes, that works and won’t drop out.

[adganga]

Anyone ever figure out a way to wire their iPhone 15 to the MMI through USB C?

[esimp2k]

Why does everyone not want to use a Bluetooth dongle? I used it in my old B8 and now in my old GTS. Then you can use a regular charger for powering the phone and it's not through your glove box.


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[SwankPeRFection]

Because they like to complicate things. Lol

[esimp2k]

Because they like to complicate things. Lol

Ahhh. Lol


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[Silver Streakin]

Why does everyone not want to use a Bluetooth dongle? I used it in my old B8 and now in my old GTS. Then you can use a regular charger for powering the phone and it's not through your glove box.


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Because it doesn't seem to work with newer iPhones. Mine keeps dropping the BT. See above.

NEW versions of them appear to have better functionality but you know how Amazon describes things to applicably work or not.

I went back to CDs!

[SwankPeRFection]

There’s nothing wrong with the BT adapter that I linked. The key thing to remember is that you need to use the iPhone controls on the iPhone itself to change track or what’s playing back. The only controls on the car that work are volume and pause/resume via pressing in on the volume button to mute (it behaves as pause in this scenario). If you’re streaming Apple Music you need to use the iPhone like I said. I believe if you’ve actually got local music ON THE IPHONE itself, those can be FF/RW without issue from the car controls, but who still does that?

[Silver Streakin]

There’s nothing wrong with the BT adapter that I linked. The key thing to remember is that you need to use the iPhone controls on the iPhone itself to change track or what’s playing back. The only controls on the car that work are volume and pause/resume via pressing in on the volume button to mute (it behaves as pause in this scenario). If you’re streaming Apple Music you need to use the iPhone like I said. I believe if you’ve actually got local music ON THE IPHONE itself, those can be FF/RW without issue from the car controls, but who still does that?

Santa didn't bring me one. I'll have to order one. Thanks.

I think I started enjoying better sound with CDs v my old BT device.

[SwankPeRFection]

The one I linked has a higher chipset in it… you won’t notice a difference. Old ones, yeah, they’re shit.

[ZaneS4]

My biggest issue is now being able to connect my new iPhone to the MMI bluetooth reliably. Am I the only one that has to use my speaker phone on my phone because the MMI bluetooth can't find my 2024 iPhone all the time? I love my B8 S4 but need to make bluetooth calls while driving and shifting gears!

[BrokeBichB8]

I had this with an older adapter chipset as well. When i replaced it I now can take calls and easily reconnect. Send that shit back or buy another

[SwankPeRFection]

My biggest issue is now being able to connect my new iPhone to the MMI bluetooth reliably. Am I the only one that has to use my speaker phone on my phone because the MMI bluetooth can't find my 2024 iPhone all the time? I love my B8 S4 but need to make bluetooth calls while driving and shifting gears!

No issues with integrated BT on the MMI handling calls and the dongle I linked handling music streaming from Apple Music, as long as I do my song controls from the iPhone if I’m streaming. If I’m playing songs already local to the iPhone, I can use the car controls, but I’m constantly streaming, so…

[Silver Streakin]

I bought this https://www.amazon.com/CHOOCL-Blueto...dp/B08HXWNZZV/

and it appeared to work a couple times.

Now, it says "loading..." when I pick it as the source. It says it can't find music to download. And refuses to stream.

Ugh.

Why can't this just be easy? It's just BT.

[SwankPeRFection]

I bought this https://www.amazon.com/CHOOCL-Blueto...dp/B08HXWNZZV/

and it appeared to work a couple times.

Now, it says "loading..." when I pick it as the source. It says it can't find music to download. And refuses to stream.

Ugh.

Why can't this just be easy? It's just BT.

Make sure the switch on it is set to iOS mode and not Android… check it. If need be unplug it and plug it back into the AMI port. Leave it selected as the source and don’t switch it to something else… there’s no need for it. When you get in the car, the adapter links up to your iPhone and by default (and this can’t be changed) will want to play whatever songs you have in your Music app (they must be local on the phone). If you don’t have any, you can still select something in the app on your iPhone (like stream Apple Music songs) but you must do it from the iPhone. You can’t use the controls on the car to switch songs and whatnot. Volume works on the car, but that’s it. Only time you can use the rest of the music controls is with songs already downloaded on your iPhone. I said this before… the AMI was intended to be used with an iPod, so these adapters work on that same limitation and media controls were built for that instruction set, not streamed content. This is an Audi coding problem/limitation of the MMI.

[the_pirate]

This thread had me hopeful but alas. Bluetooth adapter is the only option for an iPhone 15…..my concern is how shitty Bluetooth sounds compared to wired connection. I did find a lightning to usb c adapter that says it works for music but no charging. I don’t care if I can’t charge the phone. My AMI to lightning cable has been working for the last 4 years without issues. I upgrade my phone and now I have to resort to cds or am/fm. If this adapter I found doesn’t work I’ll bite the bullet and buy the BT adapter…..


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[the_pirate]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0BMP...b_b_prod_image

Forgot to link what I found. It probably won’t work but for $7.99 I have to try.


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