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    2013 Audi S5 MMI not functioning

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    Hello, I have a 2013 Audi S5 where the MMI and radio just stopped functioning. Tried resetting the unit, disconnecting and reconnecting the battery, checked all fuses, all to no avail. Bought the Ross-Tech HEX-V2 and ran a clean optical bus diagnostic. Performed a full scan (for the first time on this vehicle) and did receive some errors where the radio, sound system, and 5F cannot be reached. Checked for water damage and the wiring of the components in the loop and didn't discover anything. Ordered fiber optic loop to help verify components. Any help or clues would greatly be appreciated. Full scan posted below. Thank you.

    Wednesday,24,May,2023,13:42:38:65290
    VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64
    VCDS Version: 23.3.1.0 (x64) HEX-V2 CB: 0.4631.4
    Data version: 20230421 DS346.2
    www.Ross-Tech.com


    VIN: WAUGGAFRXDA016970 License Plate:


    Chassis Type: FR-AU48 (8R0)
    Scan: 01 03 05 06 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 36 42 44 46 47 52 53 56 5F
    6C A9

    VIN: WAUGGAFRXDA016970 Mileage: 98720km-61341miles

    01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
    04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
    05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
    09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
    16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
    17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
    19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    22-AWD -- Status: OK 0000
    36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
    44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
    46-Central Conv. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
    47-Sound System -- Status: OK 0000
    52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
    53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000
    56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
    5F-Information Electr. -- Status: OK 0000
    6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: Sporadic communication error 1000
    A9-Struct. Borne Sound -- Status: OK 0000
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 01: Engine (J623-CGXC) Labels:. 06E-907-551-CGW.clb
    Part No SW: 8K5 907 551 E HW: 4G0 907 551 A
    Component: 3.0l V6 TFSIH07 0002
    Revision: --H07--- CVN: 90188024
    Coding: 1A190034052600060000
    Shop #: WSC 06208 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551E 001002
    ROD: EV_ECM30TFS0218K5907551E.rod
    VCID: 38293A6D42DC7B6AF7B-806C
    VINID: 9D19575D15A2A1444004624700F48AF902

    1 Fault Found:
    15789 - Engine Speed Sensor (G28)
    P0321 00 [101] - Implausible Signal
    Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00000001
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Mileage: 91826 km
    Date: 2020.08.14
    Time: 16:08:08

    Engine RPM: 267.00 /min
    Normed load value: 0.0 %
    Vehicle speed: 4 km/h
    Coolant temperature: 98 °C
    Intake air temperature: 60 °C
    Ambient air pressure: 990 mbar
    Voltage terminal 30: 12.288 V
    Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
    Engine speed: actual: 0 /min
    Engine: operating status: ES
    ENVD_CRK: 0
    Vehicle speed: actual: 4 km/h
    N_TOOTH_32_DIAG_CRK_SIG_LOSS: 512 /min
    N_CAM_32_DIAG_CRK_SIG_LOSS: 768 /min

    Readiness: 0000 0000

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CK HW: 8K0 907 379 CK
    Component: ESP8 quattro H09 0100
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 281D1A
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 04519E9D4E14EF8A2B3-8050

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 GM HW: 8K0 907 064 FM
    Component: BCM2 2.0 H11 0621
    Revision: 00002001
    Coding: 0F804000000000000000
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 015F97895106FAA2005-8054

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E HW: 8K0 905 852 E
    Component: J764 ELV MLB H40 0046
    Serial number: 2312000143029014

    1 Fault Found:
    01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
    013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101101
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 3
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.17
    Time: 16:16:23


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    Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass (J521) Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 E HW: 8T0 959 760 E
    Component: MEM-BFS H10 0076
    Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00000034146123
    Coding: 00037025002C00000000
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 45D7439905AE16827CD-8010

    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.17
    Time: 16:16:23


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    Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:. 8Kx-820-043-3Z.clb
    Part No SW: 8K1 820 043 T HW: 8K1 820 043 T
    Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0121
    Revision: C1000000 Serial number: 01140720120527
    Coding: 6602228000
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 392F3F6979566262085-806C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH HW: 8K0 907 063 DH
    Component: BCM1 1.0 H16 0103
    Revision: 08016001 Serial number: 00000447474201
    Coding: 26000011803CAFE0240040C300003D0D0F9C9388A209022100 0008000000030100000030000000
    Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
    VCID: 78A9FA6D02DCBB6A37B-802C

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T1 955 119 D HW: 8J1 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
    Component: WWS 110712 H15 0080
    Serial number: SWF12070110046
    Coding: 00FD11

    Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B HW: 8U0 955 559 B Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB
    Component: G397_RLFS H06 0002
    Serial number: 20408360
    Coding: 02005D

    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS HW: 8K0 941 531 AS
    Component: E1 - LDS H03 0031
    Serial number: 00000000000207120873

    Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4G0 907 410 A HW: 4H0 907 410 A
    Component: USHL4.2 H30 0030
    Serial number: 0000002274555R29DN02

    Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658 HW: 4H0 907 658
    Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor H03 0003
    Serial number: 8E188936000000000001

    3 Faults Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.17
    Time: 16:16:23

    01800 - Light Switch (E1)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 3
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.18
    Time: 08:46:54

    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 P HW: 8K0 959 655 P
    Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H45 0610
    Serial number: 003KJD90F8YZ Dataset Number: 8T0909602N 0004
    Coding: 303343334830303030304A55304C38543053
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010
    ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod
    VCID: 4ACD70A52C30F9FA91F-801E

    Seat occupied recognition:
    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 339 A HW: 8K0 959 339 A
    Component: BF-Gewichtss. H02 0060
    Serial number: 5810000R1200009GDX

    Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side:
    Serial number: 6334MSME706426233

    Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor:
    Serial number: 6344MSME6E106812C

    Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side):
    Serial number: 6352QSME321A0764A

    Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor:
    Serial number: 6362QSME2E1C3A52R

    Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side:
    Serial number: 63732SME6C1C236EC

    Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side:
    Serial number: 63832SME6C1C125EA

    No fault code found.

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    Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb
    Part No SW: 8R0 953 568 S HW: 8R0 953 568 S
    Component: Lenks.Modul H07 0171
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 20120716001438
    Coding: 000016
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 51FF67C9C1E6CA22D05-8004

    Component: E221 - MFL H03 0003

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 920 983 P HW: 8T0 920 983 P
    Component: KOMBIINSTR. H35 0553
    Revision: 00000000 Serial number: RAU46197D
    Coding: 8BBD01008301D705020000
    Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345
    VCID: 4BC375A123CAE0F2AA9-801E

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb
    Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 H HW: 8R0 907 468 C
    Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H11 0051
    Revision: 1Y050025 Serial number: 2541Y126210402
    Coding: 80C303FF00
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 44D15E9D0E942F8A6B3-8010

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181 HW: 8T0 915 181
    Component: J367-BDMHella H03 8041
    Serial number: 2195917501

    1 Fault Found:
    02873 - Control Module for Back-Up Camera (J772)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 2
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.17
    Time: 16:32:41

    Freeze Frame:
    Bin. Bits: 10000
    Voltage: 11.80 V
    Count: 10
    Bin. Bits: 00000
    Time: 25.40 s


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 22: AWD (J492) Labels: 8K0-907-163.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 163 B HW: 8K0 907 163 A
    Component: 4 Wheel Drive H13 0100
    Serial number: 000407120001032 Dataset Number: 8T0909104C 0026
    ASAM Dataset: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN 003019
    ROD: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPCAN.rod
    VCID: 2F3B0131B792BCD2A61-807A

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr (J136) Labels:. 8T0-959-760.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 959 760 E HW: 8T0 959 760 E
    Component: MEM-FS H10 0076
    Revision: AA000000 Serial number: 00000034154361
    Coding: 001B7B25002C00000000
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 45D7439905AE16827CD-8010

    1 Fault Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.17
    Time: 16:16:23


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 P HW: 8T0 959 793 G
    Component: TSG FA H09 0304
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 011C13224E00120102
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 56F594D5E808AD1A057-8002

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 8K0-909-144.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 F HW: 8K0 909 144 B
    Component: RCEPS H37 0507
    Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 0025681893 Dataset Number: 8T0909852H 0017
    Coding: 100000010001
    Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000
    ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008014
    ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod
    VCID: 34310E5D5EB49F0ADB3-8060

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 GM HW: 8K0 907 064 FM
    Component: BCM2 2.0 H11 0621
    Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0179865591
    Coding: 0106069A00FA404580B0003200000000
    Shop #: WSC 06324 123 12345
    VCID: 015F97895106FAA2005-8054

    Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 719 B HW: 8K0 959 719
    Component: GTO BF H01 0080
    Serial number: 00000000000000545200

    Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
    Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501

    Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8R0 959 591 A HW: 8R0 959 591
    Component: J245EE20SKB13 H03 0220
    Serial number: 0123456789ABCDEFGHIJ

    3 Faults Found:
    01299 - Diagnostic Interface for Data Bus (J533)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.17
    Time: 16:16:23

    00457 - Central Electronics Control Module / BCM (J519)
    013 - Check DTC Memory - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00101101
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 2
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.18
    Time: 08:47:04

    01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
    004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
    Freeze Frame:
    Fault Status: 00100100
    Fault Priority: 6
    Fault Frequency: 1
    Reset counter: 196
    Mileage: 98724 km
    Time Indication: 0
    Date: 2023.05.18
    Time: 08:49:09


    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 47: Sound System
    Cannot be reached

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 P HW: 8T0 959 792 G
    Component: TSG BF H09 0304
    Revision: -------- Serial number: --------------
    Coding: 011C13224E00120102
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 55F793D9F50EA6020CD-8000

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 53: Parking Brake (----) Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 L HW: 8K0 907 801 J
    Component: EPB-4 H01 0003
    Revision: -------- Serial number: 00000001146856
    ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001027
    ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod
    VCID: 38293A6D42DC7B6AF7B-806C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 56: Radio
    Cannot be reached

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 5F: Information Electr.
    Cannot be reached

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb
    Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C HW: 4L0 907 441 B
    Component: J772__Rearview 0040
    Revision: --H07--- Serial number: 525PA8-J25901U
    Coding: 1000008
    Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000
    VCID: 38293A6D4E5C7B6AF7B-806C

    No fault code found.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Address A9: Struct. Borne Sound (J869) Labels: 4H0-907-159.clb
    Part No SW: 8K0 907 159 HW: 4H0 907 159 A
    Component: SAS-GEN 2 H06 0005
    Serial number: 120623201531
    ASAM Dataset: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X 002005
    ROD: EV_SoundActuaGen2AU64X_002.rod
    VCID: 72BDC8456420D13A09F-8026

    No fault code found.

    End----------(Elapsed Time: 01:28, VBatt start/end: 14.3V/14.2V)-----------

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    Guys, any suggestions on how to address this problem with the MMI? Any guidance would be greatly appreciated! Thank you.

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    Veteran Member Four Rings hahnmgh63's Avatar
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    You've got some big faults there. They may be related. How old is your battery? Check all of your ground (front right wheel well, under the liner). Check the power panel under the cowl. May want to take a voltage reading at the battery then again up front to see if there is a discrepancy, engine off, then again with the engine running.
    2003 RS6 (6Spd)
    2013 RS5 (Headers, Aluminum DSG Flywheel,JHM Stg2, etc...)
    2013 S5 (034 Stg2 & TCU)
    1974 911 (3.6ltr)
    2006 CTTS
    944T

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    Thank you for the suggestions. Checked the battery with a meter and got 12V with car off and almost 14V with the car running. Not sure how old the battery is as I bought the vehicle 4 years ago. All the grounds look good as well. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

  5. #5
    Veteran Member Four Rings hahnmgh63's Avatar
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    Anyone know if the backup camera is on the loop? You've got a fault for the camera, if it's on the loop it may be the problem. You jinxed my. Just got my daughters A5 convertible repaired yesterday after a light rear ending 5 mths ago and I'm getting a very similar issue in her '16 A5 convertible. I just ordered the MOST bypass plug from Amazon. In Vagcom, when you first launch it, go to the 'Applications' button instead of the 'Select Control Module' like you normally would. In there you will see 'Optical Bus Diagnostics' button, hit that one and let it run and you will see the modules on the loop and it will show if there is an Electrical or Optical fault. Mine is showing the Radio having a Electrical and Optical fault. Possibly sitting outside the shop with the Tail lights out, maybe some moisture got in there? Looks dry but I'll double check when the Bypass arrives.
    2003 RS6 (6Spd)
    2013 RS5 (Headers, Aluminum DSG Flywheel,JHM Stg2, etc...)
    2013 S5 (034 Stg2 & TCU)
    1974 911 (3.6ltr)
    2006 CTTS
    944T

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