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    Looking to purchase a used 2019 RS5 with 46k miles for $52k. While it does have a clean title and regular 10k maintenance I'm a little worried at some of things on the carfax report.

    First owner was in Ontario Canada, drove it a lot and there are a few repairs on it already.

    16k miles a year. 45k miles total in 3 years 1 month. They drove 9k miles in the first 4 months.

    14k miles - Windshield replaced (not sure why).

    16k Miles - One tire replaced (Not sure which tire and why).

    21k miles - 2 tires replaced

    24k miles - 1 tire replaced

    41.5k miles - 1 tire mounted, 1 tire replaced.

    2nd Owner was also in Ontario Canada. Did not drive it at all.

    Owned at 46,912 miles.

    Serviced at 46,927 miles (Ford Dealer)

    Sold at 46,971 miles

    The car is now being sold in Washington State.

    Maybe i'm over thinking this but should I be concerned with the usage from owner 1? Not sure why the windshield was replaced, but tires were replaced pretty fast and at weird intervals. I'm still not sure if the current tires are all 4 matching usage or if theyre all off by a few thousand miles. If I reach out to the dealership that did all the work, would they provide maintenance information?

    The 50k service was performed at around 46k miles when the 2nd owner bought the car. I'll also look to take this into a local audi dealership/shop for prepurchase inspection.

    Any thoughts on this purchase for the price? Any specific maintenance items that needs to be addressed around this mileage?

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    Just my 2 cents... Check the wheels out well. That kind of excessive tire failure might mean some rim damage as well. IMO I would keep looking.
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    Thanks! I'll definitely have to get it inspected and request for special review around the rims/wheels.
    Also, how has your ownership of the rs5 been so far? Anything about the car that made you regret getting it? Any big maintenance items I should be worried about coming up on 50k/60k miles?

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    I have 41,351 miles on my 2019 RS5 SB, and it has been almost exactly 4 years since I took ownership. I've replaced tires at least three times since then, all due to bad roads and potholes. Conti DWS06/DWS06+ have otherwise held up very well.

    I have had no troubles to speak of. I bought AudiCare in the beginning (very glad I did). I don't change my oil every 5k miles like many others; I've followed Audi's recommended OC interval of 10k miles. I've topped off the oil myself to the tune of about 1.5 US quarts during the last 4 years; I consider that evidence that my engine is still very tight.

    What you will never be able to tell is how I drive my car, and what stress I've put on it (or not). Every time, I warm it up carefully first and then drive briskly but not like I stole it. I've launched it fewer than five times. I've redlined it even fewer times. I haven't installed my 034 Motorsport tuning kit yet, so it's still bone stock. It is a cherry car and I plan to keep it until the B10 RS5 comes out, hopefully as a PHEV like the Porsche Panamera 4s E-Hybrid.

    My point is that you don't know how the previous owners drove the car. Mileage in and of itself doesn't really give much information. I'd stack my 10k mi/yr RS5 against a lot of lesser mileage RS5s for engine, transmission, and overall condition. If you can, test drive the car on local roads of several types and on the highway. Find a really good independent Audi mechanic to inspect the car as closely as possible. I think you shouldn't walk away from the car too fast. Maybe this car is in as marvelous an operating condition as mine.
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    Yeah man I'm on my 3rd windshield in 50K, Colorado roads suck!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonTomato4195 View Post
    Looking to purchase a used 2019 RS5 with 46k miles for $52k. While it does have a clean title and regular 10k maintenance I'm a little worried at some of things on the carfax report.

    First owner was in Ontario Canada, drove it a lot and there are a few repairs on it already.

    16k miles a year. 45k miles total in 3 years 1 month. They drove 9k miles in the first 4 months.

    14k miles - Windshield replaced (not sure why).

    16k Miles - One tire replaced (Not sure which tire and why).

    21k miles - 2 tires replaced

    24k miles - 1 tire replaced

    41.5k miles - 1 tire mounted, 1 tire replaced.

    2nd Owner was also in Ontario Canada. Did not drive it at all.

    Owned at 46,912 miles.

    Serviced at 46,927 miles (Ford Dealer)

    Sold at 46,971 miles

    The car is now being sold in Washington State.

    Maybe i'm over thinking this but should I be concerned with the usage from owner 1? Not sure why the windshield was replaced, but tires were replaced pretty fast and at weird intervals. I'm still not sure if the current tires are all 4 matching usage or if theyre all off by a few thousand miles. If I reach out to the dealership that did all the work, would they provide maintenance information?

    The 50k service was performed at around 46k miles when the 2nd owner bought the car. I'll also look to take this into a local audi dealership/shop for prepurchase inspection.

    Any thoughts on this purchase for the price? Any specific maintenance items that needs to be addressed around this mileage?
    I think you are over-thinking much of this, but there are some things to check.

    Regarding mileage, my wife agreed to our 2019 RS5 Sportback on the condition we go on a road trip. As soon as warm weather arrived we took a 7K mile trip from Chicago, to the southwest US, up the coast from California to Washington, then into BC, over to Alberta, then dropped back down to the States into Idaho, Montana,and back to Chicago. It only took us 3 weeks to put on those 7K miles. We easily had over 9K miles on it in the first few months. The car was great, and we have gone on some form of road trip every year since. It's a GT car and made to travel. We now have 50K miles on the car and no issues.

    Regarding the ownership history, the second owner just looks like they bought the car to flip. My brother does this constantly. In this case, it looks like someone close to, or connected with, a Ford dealer picked it up at auction or as a trade, had it serviced, and resold it. The 50K service is not a big one (essentially an oil change), but some of the earlier services are. I would have an Audi dealer check their records to make sure that all of the required service was done. As a side note, the official oil change interval is 10K but I change mine at 5K.

    Regarding the windshield, I would have mine replaced if it got a stone chip. I've had that done in the past on a Porsche and was much happier with the replacement windshield than I was with repairs to other stone ships. I would treat this as a good thing, as long as it does not leak when it rains.

    Regarding tires, I agree that they were replaced at weird intervals but that's not a reason to avoid the car. Replacing just one tire sounds like pot hole damage or another road hazard to me. Regarding the life expectancy of tires on the RS5, it depends a lot on the type of tires you use, and how you drive. My car came with Continental SportContact6 tires and they lasted about 21K miles. They were dedicated summer tires, which cannot be used below 45F, so I also purchased a second set of dedicated winter tires and wheels. If you plan to drive the car year-round, plan on having either two sets of wheels and tires (summer and winter), or purchasing All Season tires. In my case, I'm using Michelin PS4S summer tires and PA4 winter tires. Both have 30K mile wear warranties. All Seasons are an option, and they may wear better, but they don't provide the same absolute amount of traction on dry pavement, and they are not as good in the snow, but many people use them. It just depends on what you want.

    However, I would start by finding out exactly what tires are on the car now (summer, winter, all season?). I believe Canada requires winter tires for a portion of the year, so I would want to know what's on the car now. If it has winter tires, you don't want to use them in the summer as they'll wear prematurely with the heat, and not behave well in high heat. Also, what is the specific brand, model, speed rating, and size of the tires (does it have tires appropriate for the car?). I say this because it looks like the original tires were replaced on a slim budget, and the car was possibly serviced by a Ford dealer just to flip it, so just make sure it has appropriate tires for the car. Assuming the tires are appropriate, how worn are the current tires, and are they wearing evenly on the right and left side of the car, and across the tread of each tire? This could reveal inflation or alignment issues. Ultimately, these things are not a reason to avoid the car. They just indicate what you might need to spend after you get the car, and what type of bargaining leverage you might have on the purchase price.

    Along with checking the tires, I would drive the car and make sure there was no unusual vibration. It could indicate a tire balancing issue, but it could also be a bent wheel. Again, this is not a show stopper, as wheels are easily repaired. It's just a bargaining chip, so it's better to know this before you complete the purchase.

    I'm very happy with my 2019 RS5 Sportback. Assuming you don't find any critical mechanical issues, and can deal with whatever tires are on the car, I don't see any reason in the Carfax report to avoid the car. Good luck in your search.

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    Potholes and stones take their toll. Those are pretty normal repairs for someone who drives a lot.

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    I think everyone here has given you very sound advice. 46k on a car going on 4 years doesn’t really seem excessive to me. One windshield for that amount of miles doesn’t sound like a big deal. The tire replacement history might also not be an issue. Lack of proper inflation/rotation could play a major part in all that. I’d concentrate on the service history of the car and if you’re certain it hasn’t been wrecked in any substantial way, it’s probably still a very solid car. My .02.
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    One thing I haven't seen mentioned yet is the fact that it is a Canadian car. Maybe this is more common due to you being so close to the border, but I have seen several Canadian market cars in the midwest for cheaper than average that have sat unsold for a while (with no real red flags on carfax).

    Not sure it's always the case, but after doing some research I read that certain warranty/recalls jobs would potentially need to be done by a dealer in Canada. One other thing to at least dig into a bit more if you decide to move forward.
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    I think recalls can be done by a US dealer but the Canadian warranty will not be honored. If you have something that needs to be fixed under warranty then you’ll have to take it to a Canadian dealer or pay out of pocket at a US dealer.

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    Also, make sure you can title a Canadian spec car in the US. You can't, for example, title a European spec car until it is much older.

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    I think you can because I remember seeing lots of Canadian RS6s for sale at US Audi dealers when it was first released. US dealers near the border were posting ads looking to buy Canadian RS6s.

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    Hi Everyone! Thanks for all the replies! I'm not very knowledgeable in cars and everyone's replies here have been very helpful! Looks like generally I shouldn't be too concerned about the repairs and definitely check the tires. I'll be taking the car into a local shop that specializes in German cars and has a pre-purchase inspection service. I'll ask them for special attention around the tires.

    Besides the tires, are there any other parts that I should ask when they were last replaced/maintenanced? I know brakes, rotors, and spark plugs have a recommended mileage/years before replacing. Are there any other parts that will need maintenance/changing that I should ask about?

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    Definitely check the front and rear brakes. They are pretty expensive to replace when the time comes.

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    You can look up the maintenance schedule on line and check the bigger items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnonTomato4195 View Post
    Thanks! I'll definitely have to get it inspected and request for special review around the rims/wheels.
    Also, how has your ownership of the rs5 been so far? Anything about the car that made you regret getting it? Any big maintenance items I should be worried about coming up on 50k/60k miles?
    I see you have received some good advise since my post. As far as my RS5SB goes, its been rock solid. No issues other than a defective tail light that was replaced in month one under warranty. I purchased mine new so I got Audicare. That covered all the services. My car has just 18k miles, so I still have the original tires on it. They are close to needing replacement. As also mentioned by others, brakes are expensive. Mine are still good, but I would think by 49k miles they would have been replaced and might need to be again. Be sure they are still in good shape.

    Other potential problem areas I've heard of in other RS5s during my 3.5 years of ownership; Leaky DRC shocks. Worn wheel bearings (front). Rattles in the rear seat and trunk area. Buggy Carplay. Issues with the digital gauge cluster screen. There may be a couple more you can find on this site or Audiworld.

    As far as my RS5 is concerned going forward, I wasnt originally planning on keeping it longer than three years. However, the car still excites me, has been trouble free and fits my needs perfectly. So I am planning to keep it long term.
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    I have seen some weird Carfax things pop up from time to time, I am always looking for my next vehicle.
    The Tires thing is VERY common on almost every Carfax you will see this.
    The 2nd owner never driving it: The dealer took ownership of the car while in their possession. This happens quite often too. They are considered the second owner.
    Driving the car this much is a good sign. It is a very capable and fun car to rive across country. Some people end up actually doing it.
    The price... thats a bit stiff for a car with that many miles. My 2019 RS5 Sportback sold at the dealership I bought my current car from (Traded the RS5 for an M5) for $60k, and that car had 23k miles on it. You can easilly find B9 RS5 Sportbacks (Only 2019 model year) in the high $50k range. ($57 - $59k) For me this would be a hard pass, as I could find something else for about $6k more that has about 20k less miles. Which equates to about 1.5 years of driving roughly.

    Things to check for. Make sure everything is stock. Exhaust is usually fine if that is all they have done, but make sure nothing has been modded. You do not want to buy someone elses project. Make sure the rims are nice and straight and have no curb rash. (The RS5 wheels are expensive) Make sure the transmission shifts nice and no clunks, and make sure the engine pulls well with no hesitations.

    I only had my B9 RS5 for 5 months, but I would trade my M5 in in a second for a 21' or 22' Turbo Blue RS5 B9.5.

    Take your time when looking. If you spend a bit more time on your search you will almost always be rewarded with a vehicle with less miles, that costs less.
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    that sounds like a typical weekend to Montreal...pot hole city. Toronto (Ontario, Canada) isn't much better.

    I just had two of my 18" wheels repaired a week apart on the driver side. Both cracked but aftermarket, but my wife and I can't remember when I hit such a monster of a pot hole.
    First road trip in my R, had a large rock crack the window that got thrown up from someone not being able to stay off the shoulder while they were driving. Since the sensors are behind the rear view mirror....it was an automatic windshield replacement.

    If the wheels are 20's I wouldn't worry about the rest of the car besides maybe an end link or suspension related. That is one thing I am looking for though, and whether I can set-up a deal to replace the 20's with 19's. It's not Florida / Cali / Texas roads that's for sure. I think you can do a 19 265/35 and get the right offset
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