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    What are good all seasons for a 2014 audi a4 quattro without breaking the bank? My tires are pretty much bald at this point.

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    No tires are cheap these days. Bring up 245/40r18 on tirerack, then filter to the three all-season categories, and sort by price. You'll looking around the $185/tire mark to get started, going on up to the $300/tire Michelin CrossClimate2. I wanted to shift to the CC2 but my G-force Comp-2 A/S+ didn't even make it half way through their tread life warranty. So $400 vs $1200 was an easy pick last month when I got new tires.
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    I'm running Sumitomo HTR A/S P03 on my Allroad and am very happy with these. Had a set on my GTI as well. I see lake effect snow in Cleveland Ohio so that is a major consideration when I buy tires. I drive fairly frequently on gravel and unpaved roads to get to hiking areas too so a tire that can handle some mud and rough terrain is important to me. I've been very happy with these especially for the price point ($160-ish). Resists hydroplaning very well, QUIET, they grip incredibly well on dry pavement especially given their somewhat chunky design, the Allroad is essentially unstoppable in the winter with these tires. Been a great tire all around in my experience. Certainly less "crisp" and "direct" than a strictly street performance oriented tire but by no means sloppy.

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    For me, its simple. The best tires are always Michelin. They have more R&D resources than anybody else, and you pay for that. They actually consider how the tire performs when its worn not just new.

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    There are no good all season tires. They are bad for both winter and bad for summer. Get yourself a good set of summer tires and good winter tires. They'll last longer than all season tires, and you'll get better response and grip both in winter and summer, giving you the actual experience with owning a great German car.

    To drive with all season tires in the summer, is like driving with a flat tire. Absolutely ridiculous that people have all season tires, on any car, but even more ridiculous when put on great cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4B8 2.0tfsi View Post
    There are no good all season tires. They are bad for both winter and bad for summer. Get yourself a good set of summer tires and good winter tires. They'll last longer than all season tires, and you'll get better response and grip both in winter and summer, giving you the actual experience with owning a great German car.

    To drive with all season tires in the summer, is like driving with a flat tire. Absolutely ridiculous that people have all season tires, on any car, but even more ridiculous when put on great cars.
    What set of winter tires would you reccomend then


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    When I lived in FL full-time, I ran performance summer tires. Bridgestone Potenza Sport or Pirelli P Zero



    When I lived in CO full-time, I ran performance summer tires from May to October and snow tires the other months when I was heading to the mountains to ski - Bridgestone Potenza Sport for summer and Michelin X-Ice Xi3 for snow



    The last 2 years I've split time between FL, CO and OH and have been running all-season tires. Goodyear Eagle Sport

    This is the first time I've run all-seasons in almost 20 years, and I'm not a fan. I much prefer performance summer tires for summer and snow tires for winter.



    I'm going to get a new wheel & tire set now that I'm back in FL full time again. They will definitely be performance summer tires. If necessary where you live and you can swing it (financially and with storage), get separate summer and winter tires.
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    If he doesn't want to break the bank I assume he doesn't want to get a 8 tires, and constantly be on a rotation of swapping them on and off at a tire shop. All seasons, IMO, are good enough for the average driver. If you're not an aggressive driver (and lets be honest, this is a little 2L turbo 4-cylinder pushing 220HP so let's not act like we can gap every driver), and don't live in a state that gets heavy snow, then all seasons are good enough. Never had a problem with mine.

    I'm running Continental DWS 06+. Really nice tires, not loud, and good grip. When I bought the car it had Kumho Ecstas. They seemed like good tires but one eventually got a bubble on the sidewall and another was so sticky that chunks of tire thread were coming out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MyDimeIsUp View Post
    If he doesn't want to break the bank I assume he doesn't want to get a 8 tires, and constantly be on a rotation of swapping them on and off at a tire shop. All seasons, IMO, are good enough for the average driver. If you're not an aggressive driver (and lets be honest, this is a little 2L turbo 4-cylinder pushing 220HP so let's not act like we can gap every driver), and don't live in a state that gets heavy snow, then all seasons are good enough. Never had a problem with mine.

    I'm running Continental DWS 06+. Really nice tires, not loud, and good grip. When I bought the car it had Kumho Ecstas. They seemed like good tires but one eventually got a bubble on the sidewall and another was so sticky that chunks of tire thread were coming out.
    Well I hope you're aware of that your allseasons have a much worse grip on summer roads, and they wear out much quicker. To run allseasons year long, is definitely not the smart choice, if you want to brake the bank.

    "Good enough" ??? Lmao! Why buy a good car, and ruin the performance with rubbish tires?

    "Constantly be on rotation"??? Twice a year is constantly? Lmao! Yeah you need to rotate the tires regardless, if you have any common sense, since the fronts wear out quicker, and the right front faster than the left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4B8 2.0tfsi View Post
    Well I hope you're aware of that your allseasons have a much worse grip on summer roads, and they wear out much quicker. To run allseasons year long, is definitely not the smart choice, if you want to brake the bank.

    "Good enough" ??? Lmao! Why buy a good car, and ruin the performance with rubbish tires?

    "Constantly be on rotation"??? Twice a year is constantly? Lmao! Yeah you need to rotate the tires regardless, if you have any common sense, since the fronts wear out quicker, and the right front faster than the left.
    I'm not tracking/racing my car. Its a 2L 4-cylinder with 211HP + my allroad is raised like 1 1/2" from the sedan. I don't need the extra grip. Yes I know about rotating tires (I just did it with my oil change a coupla days earlier). What I'm talking about is that he either has 4 tires on his car and 4 in the garage which he has to take to a shop every spring/fall to put on or he has to shell out extra money for rims so he can just swap the wheels with their respective season tire on in his garage.

    All seasons today are damn good. Dedicated summer and winter tires are obviously the much better choice but the extra money to buy 8 tires (4 for each season) and having to take it to a tire shop or buy extra wheels is quite a hassle. OP said he's on a budget and I doubt he wants to shell > $1,200 for 8 tires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moieser View Post
    What are good all seasons for a 2014 audi a4 quattro without breaking the bank? My tires are pretty much bald at this point.

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    I would definitely agree with Smac, all are expensive. To break it down simply, do achieve the best grip you would run the appropriate tire for the correct weather/temperature situation. To do otherwise is just a situational grip compromise. Can you run PS AS4's all year, yup, but you probably would get 30k miles out of them. Nothing compares to a studded tire on ice. I run Continental sport contact for summer, PS AS4 when temps get to about 30-40F or less and rainy here in the PNW, and Nokian hakkapeliitta 9's studded when snow/ice hits. Don't buy a cheap hard tire. If your in a hurry to stop you will slide, sidewalls are weak and will bust if you hit a hole. If you are a conservative driver and don't do any ice/snow and don't push the car at all an all season will be fine. Lastly, tread depth is a huge factor in wet/snow tire performance. An all season at (4-5)/32" is going to be pretty crappy in heavy rain/snow regardless of tire. Keep the your all season tread depth thick for acceptable wet/snow performance. Which is more to the point why you should really run 2-3 sets of tires but i get its tough on tight budgets.

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    reading peoples opinion on tire selection is almost as entertaining as reading people's opinions on oils.

    just so many live and die on wrong facts and is always just there opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    reading peoples opinion on tire selection is almost as entertaining as reading people's opinions on oils.

    just so many live and die on wrong facts and is always just there opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    reading peoples opinion on tire selection is almost as entertaining as reading people's opinions on oils.

    just so many live and die on wrong facts and is always just there opinion.

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    What are the correct facts regarding tire selection of summer/snow versus all-season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B8Buckeye View Post
    What are the correct facts regarding tire selection of summer/snow versus all-season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by B8Buckeye View Post
    What are the correct facts regarding tire selection of summer/snow versus all-season?
    Summers give up treadwear for all out grip….and some are better than others in the wet, the latter generally gives up grip to do this. Additionally, summers get hard and lose grip when temperatures drop. So you end up with a fast wearing tire that can actually underperform an all season in wet or cooler weather, conditions are key.

    Winters give up treadwear, dry traction and response to remain pliable when cold/wet/snowy/icy. They are pretty amazing on an AWD vehicle when those conditions exist but an even greater compromise when it’s a dry mild winter.

    What’s the answer, what is reasonable (for many)? What conditions do you see the majority of the time and how do you drive your vehicle?


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    Great answer JL. It all depends upon your set of circumstances. Here’s an example:

    At one point I had an ’03 MB C230 Kompressor along with my ‘03 A4 B6. As luck would have it the wheels/tires were interchangeable. The C230 came with summer tires. After the first winter I quickly learned that with even ½” of snow I couldn’t get the C230 out of my uphill driveway without dedicated snow tires. The A4, however, was a beast in the snow with just all-season tires. When I traded the C230 I kept the snow tires/wheels to use on the A4.

    In winter of 2006 my job required that I commute 700 miles weekly back and forth between Western MD and Rochester NY for 3 months. Lots of driving through major snow belts.

    I put the snow tires on the A4. Did not like them at all on the highway. (Noisy/ mushy). I switched them out with a fresh set of Conti DWS all seasons and never had a bit of trouble getting back and forth. That included driving through several significant snow events.

    I only run summer tires on the A5. Whenever the weather is crappy I fire up the A4.

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    I've run only all-seasons since getting my own first car some 30 years ago. Even when I lived in Denver and drove up to mountains with the snow coming down at the Eisenhower, they got the job done just fine (but I got them siped when I lived there too), on my FWD car of the time.

    And these years in the southeast, even when it's cold, it's not really sub 0°F, nor snow buildup. A week ago, I was driving in 8°F temps. Today I was driving in 70°F temps. This weekend will be back in the 30°F at night. I'm not swapping wheels weekly.

    Summer tires most definitely do not last any longer than all-season tires. And all-seasons are going to last longer than winters in anything above freezing.

    While a second tire set is not really a cost issue, it's not like you're using both tire sets for every mile. But a second (good) wheel set is not cheap.

    I'm sure a summer tire set would be a superior tire for the summer months, if you got the second wheel set available. But they won't cover year round for me, and I have zero need for a winter tire set. If anything, I'd get a 3 peaks all-weather tire if I did have reasonable, constant snow coverage to navigate. If I lived in a true cold environment (stays well below 0°F, lots of snow, ie, Alaska or such), then a real winter compound tire would be the way to go.
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    3 great posts right there....

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    that's actually what I am running. no complaints ..

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    I love my Pilot Sport AS3; they work great in the snow and the car still handles well in the summer. I think the new version is Pilot Sport 4. Would buy Michelin again for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by A4B8 2.0tfsi View Post
    There are no good all season tires. They are bad for both winter and bad for summer. Get yourself a good set of summer tires and good winter tires. They'll last longer than all season tires, and you'll get better response and grip both in winter and summer, giving you the actual experience with owning a great German car.

    To drive with all season tires in the summer, is like driving with a flat tire. Absolutely ridiculous that people have all season tires, on any car, but even more ridiculous when put on great cars.
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    My car came from the factory with Pirelli Summer tires. It's a soft compound tread, so it's definitely not long lasting in any sense. But for a Pirelli tire, I'm pretty happy with it. I can corner like crazy and the tire doesn't make a sound. The grip seems pretty darn good too. My only real issue is that once the temps start really dropping, you do notice a big reduction in traction, probably because summer tires and cold roads don't play nice together. And just because the temps start to drop doesn't mean I want to switch to snow tires yet.

    So for that reason, I'm in the "all season tires are a good choice" camp. Sure, all season tires aren't as good a snow tire in snow or a summer tire during the summer, but they are better than a summer tire on cold roads and a winter tire on hot roads.

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    depends what location you're in. im in NYC and have always ran all seasons over a decade, daily driven in the winter, no issues as long as you get good all-seasons. sure they aren't as good as winter tires in the snow/cold, but you don't need them everywhere especially if you dont have deep snow or single digit temps often. and they aren't as good as summer tires performance wise in the dry and track, but for a regular daily driver which you aren't going crazy with you won't need summers either.

    get some good allseasons from tirerack like Smac770 said. i've used Conti DWS06+ for a long time and they are great, if you find a good price on those. i've also used Nokian and Kumho TA91, both great, I have the Kumhos on my B8 now. and im running Vredestein Hypertrack all-seasons on my new S5 the past year with no issues either. get yourself a good set from tirerack shouldnt be more than 700-800 for the set.

    sure some tires are better than others in ways, but for most people just driving normally and not worried about lap times and getting the "full performance" out of your car, for a practical daily driver most good brand tires are just fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    that's actually what I am running. no complaints ..
    The same. Like the quality of Bridgestone Blizzaks as well. I've already contacted the tire agent customer service to order winter tires for my wife's car. Hope to receive them soon.
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    +1 Blizzaks and Continental winters for me...no complaints.

    Summer tires...whatever meets your budget and "performance" requirements I say. These threads are just like 'What oil should I use" topics...can start a war lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seal1968 View Post
    +1 Blizzaks and Continental winters for me...no complaints.

    Summer tires...whatever meets your budget and "performance" requirements I say. These threads are just like 'What oil should I use" topics...can start a war lol.
    i got some budget all seasons and posted a video on the thread already, and the responses on everyones opinions are still coming xD

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    Our B8 runs summer and winter sets - currently BFGoodrich g-Force Sport Comp2 (255/35z R19 on factory Titanium Sport wheels) and Michelin Pilot Alpin (245/40 R18 on aftermarket wheels), respectively. Both are performance tires (about $300 ea).

    The Michelin Pilot Alpin is a great winter tire that I rate slightly higher than the Bridgestone Blizzak, so I can recommend them for the B8 with confidence. However. the 245/40 R18 size, which is 1.2% smaller than stock is discontinued - replaced by 245/45 R18 which is 2.7% larger than stock. The stock tire diameter is 26" (255/35 R19), and at the bottom of this post are 17, 18 and 19 inch tire sizes that are close to stock diameters.

    I have driven Blizzak WS80's on several cars (not the B8) and can say it's a very good tire and a great value, with the newer WS90 model sellng for about $200 ea.. A similar tire to the Blizzak is made by General for about $200 ea, the General Tire Altimax Arctic 12. I ran a set on a SN95 Mustang (not known for Winter prowess) and was very pleased with them, especially for the price at that time. The General Altimax Arctic tires are ready for studs, too, if they are legal in your state (not so in MI). But the only available size of the General Tire Altimax Arctic that will fit the B8 is for a 17" wheel, 235/45 R17, which is the main reason why I went with the Michelins Pilot Alpin.

    Many folks like to run a skinnier snow tire, like a 225/45 R18 or 235/45 R18. Personally, I have not found any issues with the 245 width snow tires, and the 245/40 R18's simply look better than 235/45 R18's on the B8 A4.

    Our B9 runs all-season tires (still factory), and they are just fine year round, but just fine. The A/S tires make the B9 about 70% as much fun to drive as the hot rod B8 in all seasons. The tire noise from the B9's A/S tires are louder than the B8's summer tires and about the same as the B8's winter tires.

    I did get caught in a surprise dusting of snow the first October we had the car (before the winter wheels and tires went on). The original factory Dunlop summer tires were shite in the snow, so I stopped by a big empty parking lot later that day and did my best Ken Block imitations throwing the Quattro around a little bit on those slippery shoes.

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    Here's one we did with Ken Block & AJ Almendinger when they were both Ford drivers, and the King (audio is a bit quieter on this one, so turn it up, man):



    Tire sizes with a 26" diameter:

    For 17" Wheels:
    135/90 R17 = 26.6 x 5.3 R17
    145/80 R17 = 26.1 x 5.7 R17
    155/80 R17 = 26.8 x 6.1 R17
    215/55 R17 = 26.3 x 8.5 R17
    225/55 R17 = 26.7 x 8.9 R17
    235/50 R17 = 26.3 x 9.3 R17
    245/50 R17 = 26.6 x 9.6 R17
    255/45 R17 = 26 x 10 R17
    26X11.5 R17
    285/40 R17 = 26 x 11.2 R17
    295/40 R17 = 26.3 x 11.6 R17
    335/35 R17 = 26.2 x 13.2 R17

    For 18" Wheels:
    135/80 R18 = 26.5 x 5.3 R18
    145/70 R18 = 26 x 5.7 R18
    215/50 R18 = 26.5 x 8.5 R18
    225/45 R18 = 26 x 8.9 R18
    225/50 R18 = 26.9 x 8.9 R18
    235/45 R18 = 26.3 x 9.3 R18
    245/45 R18 = 26.7 x 9.6 R18
    255/40 R18 = 26 x 10 R18
    26X12 R18
    265/40 R18 = 26.3 x 10.4 R18
    275/40 R18 = 26.7 x 10.8 R18
    295/35 R18 = 26.1 x 11.6 R18
    305/35 R18 = 26.4 x 12 R18
    315/35 R18 = 26.7 x 12.4 R18
    345/30 R18 = 26.1 x 13.6 R18

    For 19" Wheels:
    135/70 R19 = 26.4 x 5.3 R19
    225/40 R19 = 26.1 x 8.9 R19
    235/40 R19 = 26.4 x 9.3 R19
    245/40 R19 = 26.7 x 9.6 R19
    255/35 R19 = 26 x 10 R19
    265/35 R19 = 26.3 x 10.4 R19
    275/35 R19 = 26.6 x 10.8 R19
    285/35 R19 = 26.9 x 11.2 R19
    295/30 R19 = 26 x 11.6 R19
    305/30 R19 = 26.2 x 12 R19
    315/30 R19 = 26.4 x 12.4 R19
    325/30 R19 = 26.7 x 12.8 R19
    335/30 R19 = 26.9 x 13.2 R19
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    Good Treadwear, Good Performance, Low Price - - Pick two.

    I had a set of Cooper Zeon RS3-G1 18s and like them a lot. That was until a spouse who will not be named didn't see a big bump in the road with the avant fully loaded on a road trip. Later I found that bump was enough to damage the tire and slightly bend the inner ring of the rim. Was fun limping the vehicle home 400 miles. I found that the impact delaminated layers of the tire, and when I took it to discount tire and specifically asked them to investigate a bent rim or damaged tire, they said the tire was in balance. Me driving the vehicle noticing a large vibration, had to take the tire off myself to see the big bump in the tread. After bringing the wheel tire to them for them to put it on the balance machine, is when I noticed the inner section of the rim was out of round. Dingbats there could have saved me a lot of time by doing what I asked them to do in the first place and pay attention when rolling around the tires. I got the rim repaired by a shop in town and then had Discount tire put on a replacement set of coopers, but they still had a vibration. I ended up putting on a set of Michelin Pilot Sport AS4. Greatly reduced the vibration and was a bit softer on the bumps (avant has firm sport suspension) but hit the pocket book a good bit.
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    There are also “All Weather” tires with the three-peak mountain snowflake symbol on the sidewall that are worth considering, it all depends on your priorities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rcprato View Post
    There are also “All Weather” tires with the three-peak mountain snowflake symbol on the sidewall that are worth considering, it all depends on your priorities.


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    Our provincial police around where I live are testing the All Weather tires...they put a ton of miles on their cars. These tires are OK when its less than 8 C, but wear out fast in the summer. Still a decent option for the average Joe in my opinion. I'm used to having two sets of wheels for winter, so not an issue for me...just have to budget for replacement in off years. Since these cars are AWD the all seasons the OP bought will probably be fine for him. Again...tire choice come downs to budget and performance needs.

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