600 Mile Review of my RS 3

[rs3_guy]

Not as much fun as a supercar or even a hot hatch on the street, but I'm willing to bet my money the RS 3 can beat a 911 Turbo S on the race track because this thing's handling is just ridiculous. I hope I don't offend any Porsche people on here LOL. This has got to be, in my opinion, the most impressive characteristic of the 8Y RS 3. I'm currently on Michelin PS4 All Seasons with a square set up, so I can only assume the handling is even better in the summer with the factory staggered set up.

The engine character of the RS3 reminds me an awful lot of my BMW X3 Competition, everything from sound to power delivery. The RS 3 is definitely more pleasant to drive, though, since it's not a box on wheels. However, the lack of an exhaust plus the turbo lag means I don't find it as "fun" as my current daily, a 2022 Kona N. The RS 3, once you get past the initial turbo lag, blasts from 0-60 in what seems like a blank of an eye, all without breaking a sweat. There's no drama behind it because the performance is just so effortless. Having said that, I think adding an after market exhaust can really wake this car up, transforming it from a frog (couldn't resist the allusion to Kyalami green) to a supercar prince. There's a guy in my town with an 8V, and his exhaust set up sounds amazing, so I know the potential is there.

Overall, I'm very happy with my purchase of the 8Y RS 3. I have a feeling it's only going to get better once I drive it more. Due to the snow, I've only managed to put about 600 miles on it, and I can't wait until I can go drive some more. On a track the RS 3 would probably annihilate most cars out there.

[0000 RS5]

So you are saying this can beat a 911 Turbo S on a race track, but is less fun as a daily than your Hyundai, and it sounds like an M3?

Please! Wrong on all accounts.


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[rs3_guy]

So you are saying this can beat a 911 Turbo S on a race track, but is less fun as a daily than your Hyundai, and it sounds like an M3?

Please! Wrong on all accounts.


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Thank you for disagreeing! Just one man expressing his opinion as a former owner of a 997.2 911 Turbo S and X3M Comp.

[Crowlski]

Not as much fun as a supercar or even a hot hatch on the street, but I'm willing to bet my money the RS 3 can beat a 911 Turbo S on the race track because this thing's handling is just ridiculous. I hope I don't offend any Porsche people on here LOL. This has got to be, in my opinion, the most impressive characteristic of the 8Y RS 3. I'm currently on Michelin PS4 All Seasons with a square set up, so I can only assume the handling is even better in the summer with the factory staggered set up.

The engine character of the RS3 reminds me an awful lot of my BMW X3 Competition, everything from sound to power delivery. The RS 3 is definitely more pleasant to drive, though, since it's not a box on wheels. However, the lack of an exhaust plus the turbo lag means I don't find it as "fun" as my current daily, a 2022 Kona N. The RS 3, once you get past the initial turbo lag, blasts from 0-60 in what seems like a blank of an eye, all without breaking a sweat. There's no drama behind it because the performance is just so effortless. Having said that, I think adding an after market exhaust can really wake this car up, transforming it from a frog (couldn't resist the allusion to Kyalami green) to a supercar prince. There's a guy in my town with an 8V, and his exhaust set up sounds amazing, so I know the potential is there.

Overall, I'm very happy with my purchase of the 8Y RS 3. I have a feeling it's only going to get better once I drive it more. Due to the snow, I've only managed to put about 600 miles on it, and I can't wait until I can go drive some more. On a track the RS 3 would probably annihilate most cars out there.

Coming from someone who owns an 8Y with 2k miles on it, I have to disagree that this is faster than a TS 911, considering they do sub 3 sec to 60mph and cost about triple the price. IT is considered an engineering masterpiece on road and track. But hey, someone, please publish the Ring lapse times to compare.
I will agree that, as also a previous owner of an 8V, it's miles ahead in refinement and really shouldn't be in the "hot hatch" discussion anymore. The exhaust isn't loud enough, yes. But that's the grown-up side to it. Get in the aftermarket if that's your thing.The turbo lag you are talking about is more to do with the throttle by wire than actual TL. Get a peddle optimizer from say Burger MS or another supplier and that lag goes away.


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[Crowlski]

Coming from someone who owns an 8Y with 2k miles on it, I have to disagree that this is faster than a TS 911, considering they do sub 3 sec to 60mph and cost about triple the price. IT is considered an engineering masterpiece on road and track. But hey, someone, please publish the Ring lapse times to compare.
I will agree that, as also a previous owner of an 8V, it's miles ahead in refinement and really shouldn't be in the "hot hatch" discussion anymore. The exhaust isn't loud enough, yes. But that's the grown-up side to it. Get in the aftermarket if that's your thing.The turbo lag you are talking about is more to do with the throttle by wire than actual TL. Get a peddle optimizer from say Burger MS or another supplier and that lag goes away.


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I'll answer my own question:

TURBO S = 7:17
RS3 8Y = 7:40:75.

Impressive for the RS3 but that's a huge difference

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[signde]

I'll answer my own question:

TURBO S = 7:17
RS3 8Y = 7:40:75.

Impressive for the RS3 but that's a huge difference

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to be fair, OP was comparing to the 997.2 Turbo S which has a ring time of 7:37. the turbo s has gotten brutally quick with the latest generations.

[xeonoex]

The 7:40 time is on the 20,832 m (68,346 ft) config of the Nürburgring. It got a 7:35.522 on the 20,600 m (67,600 ft) config, which is the more common one for time tracking. Not that it matter much, but Nürburgring times are confusing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...eife_lap_times

[A418t81]

The 8Y is certainly a very large step forward in vehicle dynamics and performance in the turns as compared to the old model, and it may be within the ballpark of a 997 turbo…but this is a modified Evo 2 2022 platform while the 997 traces its origins back to the 993. Not really fair. Huge ex 997 turbo guy here, had 2 of them for many years and modified the hell out of them 😬

[Crowlski]

The 8Y is certainly a very large step forward in vehicle dynamics and performance in the turns as compared to the old model, and it may be within the ballpark of a 997 turbo…but this is a modified Evo 2 2022 platform while the 997 traces its origins back to the 993. Not really fair. Huge ex 997 turbo guy here, had 2 of them for many years and modified the hell out of them

I think the small victory here is that the RS3 is even in the conversation comparing it to a 911.

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[DanMPower]

I recently drove my friend's Kyalami Green 8Y to about 7-8/10ths and I didn't feel much difference in handling between that and my 8V. How are you guys able to tell the difference unless you're driving 10/10ths on the streets or the racetrack? I even pushed both to the point of understeer but what I noticed was the steering was a bit more heavy on the 8Y but almost a bit more numb as well? I was certainly expecting to be blown away by the handling after reading some of the 8Y owners here but that wasn't the case at all.

Recently brought home an M2 LCI (non-comp) and it blows both 8V and 8Y out of the water for sheer driving fun and driving dynamics.

[JBones81]

Do a stage 1 tune, midpipes, and an intake/turbo inlet and you'll really love the car

[Crowlski]

I recently drove my friend's Kyalami Green 8Y to about 7-8/10ths and I didn't feel much difference in handling between that and my 8V. How are you guys able to tell the difference unless you're driving 10/10ths on the streets or the racetrack? I even pushed both to the point of understeer but what I noticed was the steering was a bit more heavy on the 8Y but almost a bit more numb as well? I was certainly expecting to be blown away by the handling after reading some of the 8Y owners here but that wasn't the case at all.

Recently brought home an M2 LCI (non-comp) and it blows both 8V and 8Y out of the water for sheer driving fun and driving dynamics.

Well the first thing that stood out to me was the initial turn-in bite. The front end felt much more responsive. The 8V although I agree, felt smaller behind the wheel, didn't feel it was as capable at higher speeds. The 8Y feels much more refined.

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[rs3_guy]

Thanks to everyone that chimed in. As someone pointed out, it's a small victory for the RS 3 to even be included in the same sentence as a 911 Turbo S. What I was trying to say was, the RS 3 is an impressive engineering marvel from Audi Sport that it can keep up, and perhaps even surpass, a 911 Turbo S from just two generations ago. Yes, the Turbo S is much faster in a straight line (and much more so with the current 992 generation), but if there are tons of corners and turns I really think the 8Y RS 3 might have a chance to beat it.

With regards to the RS 3 being less fun than a Hyundai N product, I'm only saying this in the context of street driving. The Kona N has 280 horsepower, and you can use all of it on the street. It's got a loud exhaust with crackles and pops. The gear changes sound like a Porsche PDK. It really is a hot hatch hooligan, but it can't do heavy track duty despite what Hyundai claims. The RS 3, on the other hand, is just so civilized, it feels so effortless for the car to go from 0 to 80. And that's a theme that I've been getting from Audi sport, having driven the R8 and more recently the RS Q8, everything is just so refined and comfortable. I just wish Audi sport could've gone a little more nuts with the RS 3, since the buying demographic is younger, and I think it's a missed opportunity that they didn't make the sport exhaust actually sound sporty. But thankfully this could be remedied via the aftermarket.

Anyways, I have a lot more to learn about my new car and I can't wait to put more miles on it along the way!

[DanMPower]

Well the first thing that stood out to me was the initial turn-in bite. The front end felt much more responsive. The 8V although I agree, felt smaller behind the wheel, didn't feel it was as capable at higher speeds. The 8Y feels much more refined.

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I guess my sensitivity meter needs to be turned up, I felt the same with my F80 M3 vs. my E92 M3, although the press reviews said the F80 had a might sharper front end (response and turn-in) I always felt like my older E92 M3 gave me more confidence and much better steering communication. Maybe also because my 8V was on squared A052s and MSS Track kit and my friend's 8Y was on the factory reverse staggered setup with stock suspension. Not quite apples to apples. :)

[elijahallen]

I guess my sensitivity meter needs to be turned up, I felt the same with my F80 M3 vs. my E92 M3, although the press reviews said the F80 had a might sharper front end (response and turn-in) I always felt like my older E92 M3 gave me more confidence and much better steering communication. Maybe also because my 8V was on squared A052s and MSS Track kit and my friend's 8Y was on the factory reverse staggered setup with stock suspension. Not quite apples to apples. :)

Its hard to compare the 8V to the 8Y without knowing what settings you had the 8Y in. The handling is highly configurable and in comfort with everything turned down I can see how it would feel similar but in dynamic with diff turned to balanced or higher is where you really feel the confident to overconfident turn in. I have put 6K miles on my 22 RS3 and have a long winter to wait before the April event I do comes along but I am guessing I will be able to match the lap time of my built motor 2018 RS3 with this car stock. Its a track I have been driving for 22 years so I have it very dialed in and this car has the potential to turn a faster time than any of my previous cars. I'll definitely post video when the time comes.

[clerkpalmer]

Not as much fun as a supercar or even a hot hatch on the street, but I'm willing to bet my money the RS 3 can beat a 911 Turbo S on the race track because this thing's handling is just ridiculous. I hope I don't offend any Porsche people on here LOL. This has got to be, in my opinion, the most impressive characteristic of the 8Y RS 3. I'm currently on Michelin PS4 All Seasons with a square set up, so I can only assume the handling is even better in the summer with the factory staggered set up.

The engine character of the RS3 reminds me an awful lot of my BMW X3 Competition, everything from sound to power delivery. The RS 3 is definitely more pleasant to drive, though, since it's not a box on wheels. However, the lack of an exhaust plus the turbo lag means I don't find it as "fun" as my current daily, a 2022 Kona N. The RS 3, once you get past the initial turbo lag, blasts from 0-60 in what seems like a blank of an eye, all without breaking a sweat. There's no drama behind it because the performance is just so effortless. Having said that, I think adding an after market exhaust can really wake this car up, transforming it from a frog (couldn't resist the allusion to Kyalami green) to a supercar prince. There's a guy in my town with an 8V, and his exhaust set up sounds amazing, so I know the potential is there.

Overall, I'm very happy with my purchase of the 8Y RS 3. I have a feeling it's only going to get better once I drive it more. Due to the snow, I've only managed to put about 600 miles on it, and I can't wait until I can go drive some more. On a track the RS 3 would probably annihilate most cars out there.

What size square did you go? I'm debating sticking with the OEM size or going square with my all seasons.

[rs3_guy]

The consensus on this forum was 245/35/19, so I went with that. Works great!

[Rod Paine]

I am running 245/40/18 on fast country back roads, now at 30,751 miles out of the 42,710 miles now on these tires
which are being replaced next week with Michelin All Season 4 245/40/18. Our country back road runs requires
this configuration inorder to survive our Virginia country back roads which are in bad need of resurfacing, but
nothing has been done. The new 19-inch tires on our new RS 3 only lasted 3 days! We're driving a 2019
Audi RS 3, retuned a bit to produce 420 HP. I've been driving country back roads for many years as I am now
82 years old and still at it... fortunately! A great machine indeed, having owned and run 5 series BMW's for 35 years.

My Photo Gallery has pics.

[Crowlski]

I am running 245/40/18 on fast country back roads, now at 30,751 miles out of the 42,710 miles now on these tires
which are being replaced next week with Michelin All Season 4 245/40/18. Our country back road runs requires
this configuration inorder to survive our Virginia country back roads which are in bad need of resurfacing, but
nothing has been done. The new 19-inch tires on our new RS 3 only lasted 3 days! We're driving a 2019
Audi RS 3, retuned a bit to produce 420 HP. I've been driving country back roads for many years as I am now
82 years old and still at it... fortunately! A great machine indeed, having owned and run 5 series BMW's for 35 years.

My Photo Gallery has pics.

Nice! Age is in the mind and you are minding your biz!

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[xeonoex]

I recently drove my friend's Kyalami Green 8Y to about 7-8/10ths and I didn't feel much difference in handling between that and my 8V. How are you guys able to tell the difference unless you're driving 10/10ths on the streets or the racetrack? I even pushed both to the point of understeer but what I noticed was the steering was a bit more heavy on the 8Y but almost a bit more numb as well? I was certainly expecting to be blown away by the handling after reading some of the 8Y owners here but that wasn't the case at all.

Recently brought home an M2 LCI (non-comp) and it blows both 8V and 8Y out of the water for sheer driving fun and driving dynamics.

You're not really gonna tell a difference between the two on the street. Both of them have a ton of grip. I haven't driven the 8V, but I have 14 track sessions on my 8Y now. At the limit, I think it might be a little too prone to oversteer This is in performance mode. Maybe I just need to learn how to handle it though. The Potenza sports are not good track tires. I need to replace mine already. I might actually go with a square 265 setup on 18s. The rear actually has more camber than the front stock, though the front does have a lot of caster.

Comparing to the M2, RWD and AWD will feel really different on the street. The RS3 is made to have insane grip. The M2 is made to toss the rear out. The RS3 can do it in torque rear mode too though, but you really gotta be on it.

The RS3 is really meant to be an awesome daily and track weapon. Completely stock on my (not great) Potenza Sport tires, I was keeping up with or passing everyone but the actual 1 seat race cars on the track yesterday.

[unclemat]

The turbo lag you are talking about is more to do with the throttle by wire than actual TL. Get a peddle optimizer from say Burger MS or another supplier and that lag goes away.


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Your "peddle" optimizer is not going to overcome physics. Sans specific anti-lag measures (keeping turbo spooled) or variable turbo geometry, you're not going to get rid of the inherent characteristic of relatively small displacement engine with a relatively large turbo.

[Crowlski]

Your "peddle" optimizer is not going to overcome physics. Sans specific anti-lag measures (keeping turbo spooled) or variable turbo geometry, you're not going to get rid of the inherent characteristic of relatively small displacement engine with a relatively large turbo.

Of course. Do you have one? What I am talking about is what you are likely experiencing is the "lag" that is built into the throttle by wire setup vs the turbo lag.

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[S3DUDE]

Do a stage 1 tune, midpipes, and an intake/turbo inlet and you'll really love the car

That is exactly how I would do my mods.

[S3DUDE]

To the OP,

I think that you are spot on on a couple of statements and a bit off on others but again, that is just my personal opinion. First of all, you have a real good taste on cars. I love the Turbo S and the Kona N, most of the people here at one point of their lives probably would have a turbo S as a car on their wishlist.

I can see where you are coming from when you say that the Kona N is more fun...., listen, I totally get it, I do, there are smaller less powerful cars that make you feel great behind the wheel(the Cooper s, the Miatas, the GR86, the Civic SI) and tons of little cars like that that weights very little and feel that you can toss around. As far is the RS3 being faster than the Porsche S? well, I would have to wholeheartly disagree, the Porsche Turbo S is just the best daily driven friendly sports car you can get. You can literally go to a Porsche dealer and customize a Porsche turbo S on every imaginable interior, exterior color available and is in my opinion the pinnacle of best sports daily driver's car.

I have about 1800 miles on my Kylami green. Last week I tried hard to make the rear end get loose and I couldn't do it. I disconnected everything, traction sport, traction off, RS mode, individual set-up with the prompt: "only agree if you are off road" etc and I couldn't get it to break loose. I need to watch a couple of YouTube videos to figure out what I did different.

Soon I will be on my third RS3, I owned a 8V for 4.5 years and I loved it but it was riding for a few minutes on my wife's 8Y Kyalami that convinced me completely that the suspension and many other things were significantly improved. speaking of the suspension, I read on a comment above that "you can barely tell the difference when driving normally between a 8V and 8Y". Well, I would have to disagree, the 8Y suspension is one of the mani reasons why I switched cars. The 8V had the most clunky suspension I ever driven on a new car and I have had half a dozen new Audis with magnetic ride within the last 5 years.

The RS3 8Y is more refined, it feels great going over the bumps, no harsh ride at all. I have a brand new set of KW V3 that I need to install, luckily I purchased it for my 8V but they are the same part number as the ones for the 8Y so it will get installed now on the 8Y.

[xeonoex]

I have about 1800 miles on my Kylami green. Last week I tried hard to make the rear end get loose and I couldn't do it. I disconnected everything, traction sport, traction off, RS mode, individual set-up with the prompt: "only agree if you are off road" etc and I couldn't get it to break loose. I need to watch a couple of YouTube videos to figure out what I did different.

What tires do you have on it? I have the Potenza sports, and mine steps out on corner entry pretty easily in Performance Mode. You just have to really be pushing it. I haven't even tried drift mode.
Here's an example, haha



The car does just have a ton of grip. It would be a bit scary trying to break traction on a public road because of that. I have some "15 mph" curves in my area that I probably wouldn't break traction on until like 70mph.

[unclemat]

Of course. Do you have one? What I am talking about is what you are likely experiencing is the "lag" that is built into the throttle by wire setup vs the turbo lag.

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8Y RS3? No, not yet.

I don't need to to know what you wrote above as an utter nonsense.

[Crowlski]

8Y RS3? No, not yet.

I don't need to to know what you wrote above as an utter nonsense.

Utter nonsense?? Wtf Are you talking about? Bro lay off the meds. Or better yet, take more.

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[Hollingsworth]

I, like a lot of others, was running a throttle controller on my C7 Grand Sport. On many cars, the throttle response in non linear, and can feel very laggy. Also. in the same way manufacturers will dial in more understeer for safety/liability issues, they also on powerful engines will dial in throttle lag for the same reasons. Anyway, the throttle controller on my C7 made a huge, night and day, difference - made the car feel quicker (even though it actually wasn't) and way more responsive.

[Crowlski]

I, like a lot of others, was running a throttle controller on my C7 Grand Sport. On many cars, the throttle response in non linear, and can feel very laggy. Also. in the same way manufacturers will dial in more understeer for safety/liability issues, they also on powerful engines will dial in throttle lag for the same reasons. Anyway, the throttle controller on my C7 made a huge, night and day, difference - made the car feel quicker (even though it actually wasn't) and way more responsive.

Exactly what I was saying. Yes, the controller will not eliminate turbo lag, but it WILL eliminate the lag built into the delayed throttle response from the factory. It almost feels like a HP boost.

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[NapalmEnema]

Exactly what I was saying. Yes, the controller will not eliminate turbo lag, but it WILL eliminate the lag built into the delayed throttle response from the factory. It almost feels like a HP boost.

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Do you think that doing this / running one of these would void your warranty?

[oc cc]

Exactly what I was saying. Yes, the controller will not eliminate turbo lag, but it WILL eliminate the lag built into the delayed throttle response from the factory. It almost feels like a HP boost.

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All new cars have this horrific pedal lag. My S5 had it an it was ATROCIOUS - it's like since manufacturers can make adjustable drive settings the Comfort mode is horrifically lethargic where you almost plough intro traffic since pushing the gas pedal doesn't do much unless you are 50% in, the the sport mode is a bucking bronco that wooshes you forward if you so much as breathe on the throttle. It's like engineers forgot how to actually program balanced settings. My dad's work Honda CRV has better throttle tuning than my S5 - predictable and immediate. That's why I prefer cars like Lotus or Mazda - they get it just right from the factory. Otherwise, every other car I owned I had to mess around with the suspension/tuning just to get it right - not even chase power numbers or lap times or anything. My 034 tune might have made my car faster, I could care less - fixing the damn throttle response and the H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E transmission tuning was 100% the reason I got it done. The fact it's faster 0-60 or traps XXXmph doesn't matter to me at all. A lot of new cars suffer from this - circa2000s super car performance numbers on spec sheets and yet terrible steering, bad driving dynamics, teeth-breaking stiff suspension, hell even significantly worse performance if you aren't using the ridiculous "launch control" - as if people just drive around at red lights saying "hold up, let me just press the ESC button for 10 seconds... now let me press the brake down all the way... now let me rev to 3500 rpm for another 10 seconds.... annnndddd GO!" You can see this in C&Ds 0-60 and 5-60 tests. Legit well engineered cars have barely any difference between those two metrics, but these tarted up garbage cars (like the CLA 45 AMG) have an insane gap between those two. Turns out once you don't use software optimized launch control, the terrible lag, shitty transmission tuning, and crappy chassis that can't put power down become much more evident outside of a "controlled" launch.

[DaBeaRS3]

All new cars have this horrific pedal lag. My S5 had it an it was ATROCIOUS - it's like since manufacturers can make adjustable drive settings the Comfort mode is horrifically lethargic where you almost plough intro traffic since pushing the gas pedal doesn't do much unless you are 50% in, the the sport mode is a bucking bronco that wooshes you forward if you so much as breathe on the throttle. It's like engineers forgot how to actually program balanced settings. My dad's work Honda CRV has better throttle tuning than my S5 - predictable and immediate. That's why I prefer cars like Lotus or Mazda - they get it just right from the factory. Otherwise, every other car I owned I had to mess around with the suspension/tuning just to get it right - not even chase power numbers or lap times or anything. My 034 tune might have made my car faster, I could care less - fixing the damn throttle response and the H-O-R-R-I-B-L-E transmission tuning was 100% the reason I got it done. The fact it's faster 0-60 or traps XXXmph doesn't matter to me at all. A lot of new cars suffer from this - circa2000s super car performance numbers on spec sheets and yet terrible steering, bad driving dynamics, teeth-breaking stiff suspension, hell even significantly worse performance if you aren't using the ridiculous "launch control" - as if people just drive around at red lights saying "hold up, let me just press the ESC button for 10 seconds... now let me press the brake down all the way... now let me rev to 3500 rpm for another 10 seconds.... annnndddd GO!" You can see this in C&Ds 0-60 and 5-60 tests. Legit well engineered cars have barely any difference between those two metrics, but these tarted up garbage cars (like the CLA 45 AMG) have an insane gap between those two. Turns out once you don't use software optimized launch control, the terrible lag, shitty transmission tuning, and crappy chassis that can't put power down become much more evident outside of a "controlled" launch.

Like? Pretty much every performance car is going to benefit significantly from launch control. From C&D:

CLA 45 AMG:
0-60; 3.7
5-60; 5.1
1.4 second difference

8Y RS3:
0-60; 3.3
5-60; 4.7
1.4 second difference

Giulia QV:
0-60; 3.6
5-60; 4.4
.8 second difference

BMW M3:
0-60; 3.5
5-60; 4.5
1 second difference

CT-4 V BW:
0-60; 4.0
5-60; 5.3
1.3 second difference

C8 Corvette:
0-60; 3.0
5-60; 3.7
.7 second difference

Bugatti Chiron:
0-60; 2.2
5-60; 3.2
1 second difference

The Giulia QV and the C8 Corvette are the only two of that sampling that do the difference in under a second, though it is still over half a second which I wouldn't consider "barely any difference". AWD and Turbo will obviously be more impacted, because you can get into the boost and won't spin as much as RWD only. But even NA V8 Vette is still over a half a second difference.

[rs3_guy]

To the OP,

I think that you are spot on on a couple of statements and a bit off on others but again, that is just my personal opinion. First of all, you have a real good taste on cars. I love the Turbo S and the Kona N, most of the people here at one point of their lives probably would have a turbo S as a car on their wishlist.

I can see where you are coming from when you say that the Kona N is more fun...., listen, I totally get it, I do, there are smaller less powerful cars that make you feel great behind the wheel(the Cooper s, the Miatas, the GR86, the Civic SI) and tons of little cars like that that weights very little and feel that you can toss around. As far is the RS3 being faster than the Porsche S? well, I would have to wholeheartly disagree, the Porsche Turbo S is just the best daily driven friendly sports car you can get. You can literally go to a Porsche dealer and customize a Porsche turbo S on every imaginable interior, exterior color available and is in my opinion the pinnacle of best sports daily driver's car.

I have about 1800 miles on my Kylami green. Last week I tried hard to make the rear end get loose and I couldn't do it. I disconnected everything, traction sport, traction off, RS mode, individual set-up with the prompt: "only agree if you are off road" etc and I couldn't get it to break loose. I need to watch a couple of YouTube videos to figure out what I did different.

Soon I will be on my third RS3, I owned a 8V for 4.5 years and I loved it but it was riding for a few minutes on my wife's 8Y Kyalami that convinced me completely that the suspension and many other things were significantly improved. speaking of the suspension, I read on a comment above that "you can barely tell the difference when driving normally between a 8V and 8Y". Well, I would have to disagree, the 8Y suspension is one of the mani reasons why I switched cars. The 8V had the most clunky suspension I ever driven on a new car and I have had half a dozen new Audis with magnetic ride within the last 5 years.

The RS3 8Y is more refined, it feels great going over the bumps, no harsh ride at all. I have a brand new set of KW V3 that I need to install, luckily I purchased it for my 8V but they are the same part number as the ones for the 8Y so it will get installed now on the 8Y.

Thank you for the compliment. I realize I wasn't exactly comparing apples to apples when I drew comparison between an 8Y RS3 and a 997.2 Turbo S. Yes, in the general sense the Porsche is unobjectionably faster than the Audi. However, you look at the 'Ring times posted by others on here, 8Y RS3 did a 7:40 (or is it 7:36?) and 997 Turbo S did 7:37. Basically neck and neck. My experience with the old Turbo S was that it was so heavy on the rear axel agility around tight corners was its biggest Achilles heel, which is why I said if the track had tons of twists and turns the 8Y RS3 might take it.

Again, even making a comparison between a humble little Audi with a legend that is the 911 Turbo S really is testament to how technology is leveling the playing field. I mean, the new Kia EV6 GT was drag racing a Lamborghini Aventador on Youtube.. A Kia, drag racing a Lamborghini!

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Do you think that doing this / running one of these would void your warranty?

I was running a Soler Engineering throttle controller. It is a plug n play piggy back type system which simply plugs in at the accelerator pedal. I assume most systems are like that and probably wouldn't affect the warranty. However, given how Audi is such a d**k about voiding warranties, I would 1) remove it before going in for service (on the vette it only took like 15 min for install/removal) or 2) leave it in but temporarily put the setting back to oem setting and make sure the little control pad is not visible to the techs