Missing Lane Departure setting for Steering Correction

[workerONE]

In the manual under the section "Adjusting Audi active lane assist" it says:
"You can adjust Audi active lane assist... The settings depend on the vehicle equipment...
VEHICLE - Driver assistance - Audi active lane assist / lane departure warning.
Possible settings: Steering correction - In the Late setting... In the Early setting, steering correction occurs continuously in order to help the driver keep the vehicle in the center of the lane"

I don't have a "Steering correction" menu with settings.

Does anyone know why?

[Smac770]

Useful information? What year is this, ie is it MIB2 or MIB3. And are you sure you have active lane assist, PR-6I1?

[workerONE]

2022 RS5, yes I have active lane assist that comes with the drivers assistance package.

[LYKUNO]

2022 RS5, yes I have active lane assist that comes with the drivers assistance package.

Looking at the section of the 2023 model year manual, just prior to the text you quoted ("You can adjust Audi active lane assist ... etc, etc") there is a section titled "Switching on or off" that "Applies to: vehicles with Audi active lane assist." Following that is a photo (Fig 126 in my manual) of the Turn Signal lever, with a button for audi active lane assist at the end of the stalk. This is followed by the instructions stating "To switch the system on or off, press the button on the (end of) the turn signal lever. The respective indictor light in the instrument cluster will turn off or on."

Not sure if you noticed that section, but it appears that the Active Lane Assist feature will not be activated unless that button on the turn signal stalk is pressed. Hope that will help! Our S5 hasn't been shipped or delivered yet but I did order a copy of the manual from the Audi Literature website so I could get familiar with the technology. It's a lot more complex than our 2011 S4!

[Burrcold]

^^exactly, you have to have the button on the end of the turn signal stalk engaged if you want to change the sensitivity of lane keep assistance.

[workerONE]

I already turned on lane assist then checked the menu for steering correction, which is a menu I don't have at all. Tried this before making the thread.

[LYKUNO]

I already turned on lane assist then checked the menu for steering correction, which is a menu I don't have at all. Tried this before making the thread.

Sounds like it's time to have your servicing dealer investigate. You're under warranty so shouldn't cost anything but your time. Keep us posted!

[workerONE]

Today I checked it again to see if the menu showed up while lane assist was active and it's not there.
I wonder if it's dependent on the dynamic steering package which I don't have?

[LYKUNO]

Today I checked it again to see if the menu showed up while lane assist was active and it's not there.
I wonder if it's dependent on the dynamic steering package which I don't have?

I don/t believe it's dependent on having the dynamic steering package option. When you switch the system on with the button at the end of the stalk, are you seeing white lines depicting the edges of the lane you're traveling in? You do need to be traveling at a speed above 40mph for the system to function. Found a text description and a 30-second long video here: https://www.audi-technology-portal.d...lane-assist_en.

The manual state "If the system is switched on but is not ready to provide warnings, one of the following systems limits or situations could be the cause:
- The necessary lane line markers have not been detected Ifor example, in a construction zone or because the lines are obstructed by snow, dirt, water or lighting.
- The speed is below the activation speed
- The lane is too narrow or to wide
- The curve is too narrow
- Visibility is obstruct by a rise or dip
- The driver's hands are not on the steering wheel
- The turn signal was activated.

Hmmmmm ... There is also a "Tip" at the top of page 153 of the manual, stating "The image in the Driver assistance display only appears if it was opened in the trip computer -> page 17. The driver assistance display is where you would see the white, red, green lane lines indicators per the fig 125 on page 152 of the manual. So you may need to turn the left thumbwheel on the multifunction steering wheel to show the display for Driver assistance (see page 17 of the manual). Hoping this is useful information!

[workerONE]

Here's a photo:

Lane assist is working but I don't have an option to set Steering correction to Early
When I switch lane assist on going over a certain speed I see the icon with yellow lines, and if the car drifts to the edge of the lane the steering wheel vibrates and there's a steering correction (and on the MMI icon the lane changes color).
But the system only corrects once the car hits the line.
According to the manual (and it seems like other forum members) there's supposed to be an option to set "Steering Correction" to "Early" so that the system keeps the vehicle in the center of the lane.

[LYKUNO]

Here's a photo:

Lane assist is working but I don't have an option to set Steering correction to Early
When I switch lane assist on going over a certain speed I see the icon with yellow lines, and if the car drifts to the edge of the lane the steering wheel vibrates and there's a steering correction (and on the MMI icon the lane changes color). But the system only corrects once the car hits the line. According to the manual (and it seems like other forum members) there's supposed to be an option to set "Steering Correction" to "Early" so that the system keeps the vehicle in the center of the lane.

Thanks for the pic and confirmation you're seeing the icon with the yellow lines and that if the car drifts to the edge of the lane, that Lane Assist will warn you with corrective steering before "exiting the lane". Per the manual, "if the system must intervene for a long period of time, a message will request the driver to drive in the center of the lane, and the steering wheel will also vibrate lightly when exiting the lane." The manual goes on to state "That if Audi active lane assist intervenes multiple times when no steering activity is detected, the steering intervention request will provide a warning using audio and visual signals. Take over the steering and keep your hands on the steering wheel so that you will be ready to steer at any time. The system may no longer be ready to provide warnings after a short time, and it will only become active again later. If the driver does not take over steering, Audi active lane assist will be switched off."

So apparently if there is no or limited participation in correcting the steering from the driver, the system turns off. I concur that the manual does provide instructions for adjusting the Audi active lane assist individually. As noted, the settings apply to the MMI, where in the home screen you select VEHICLE > Driver Assistance > Audi active lane assist/Land departure warning. The possible settings are as follows:
* Steering correction - In the Late setting, the steering correction will only occur shortly before a wheel crosses a detected lane marker line. In the Early setting, steering correction occurs continuously in order to help the driver keep the vehicle in the center of the lane. If the steering correction cannot be set, the steering correction will function in the Late setting.
* Vibration warning - You can select if you would also like to be warned using a vibration in the steering wheel.
* Tips - Certain settings are automatically stored and assigned to the remote control key being used.

It would seem like the Early setting would be capable of making the continuous corrections needed to autonomously keep the vehicle steering into the center of the lane. But I suspect it still requires sensing the driver's hands on the wheel and at least some degree of human participation in the steering of the car. As a purely assistive feature, I can't envision the feature taking full responsibility for steering the vehicle to your destination, like a Tesla might be capable of doing. Maybe that'll be a B10 feature!

[Smac770]

Your "Audi ALA information" entry is also grayed out. Compared to the image such as https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-...rking-3017976/

Maybe you have an error condition present (DTCs in vehicle scan) or maybe the system is not activating (your hands aren't on the steering wheel there; but you have the green lines so "ALA is active and ready to provide warnings"). You'll need someone without the problem scenario to experiment and actually determine some valid constructs.

ACC is enabled when you're trying to turn the ALA on? At least for the D5 A8, the steering correction setting is specific to using ALA with ACC active. Maybe that's the only way ALA activates (goes green), with ACC active. Don't know.

Why do you not have a speed display on your instrument cluster?

Maybe it's one of those things you can only change when not moving. Maybe that's why the info is grayed out. But usually a locked out setting will still show up, just not accessible at the moment.

[workerONE]

Your "Audi ALA information" entry is also grayed out. Compared to the image such as https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q5-...rking-3017976/

Maybe you have an error condition present (DTCs in vehicle scan) or maybe the system is not activating (your hands aren't on the steering wheel there; but you have the green lines so "ALA is active and ready to provide warnings"). You'll need someone without the problem scenario to experiment and actually determine some valid constructs.

ACC is enabled when you're trying to turn the ALA on? At least for the D5 A8, the steering correction setting is specific to using ALA with ACC active. Maybe that's the only way ALA activates (goes green), with ACC active. Don't know.

Why do you not have a speed display on your instrument cluster?

Maybe it's one of those things you can only change when not moving. Maybe that's why the info is grayed out. But usually a locked out setting will still show up, just not accessible at the moment.

It's interesting to see what it's supposed to look like if you have the option, thanks.
Yeah maybe I have an error condition present, I'll scan it with my vag com scanner.
I do get the system to activate and it works normally requiring hands on wheel after a few moments.
It's a good idea but I don't think the menu option for EARLY/LATE will show up when driving with ACC and ALA active because it would be unsafe to have a menu that only shows up when driving at speed. This should be something you set when the car is stopped.
Speaking of safety, the photo was taken while driving so I edited the photo to remove the speed.
If I recall correctly, when I'm not moving and I click the information option it tells me about the system but there aren't any menus in that screen.

[JohnEnglish]

Your car is under warranty. Take it to the dealer and ask them.

[RickNY]

Your car is under warranty. Take it to the dealer and ask them.

Definitely this -- something is wrong on your car.. The settings should be where you indicated.. It is not dependent on the car having dynamic steering at all.. Also, you mentioned yellow lines -- I dont recall ever seeing yellow lines on my car -- my manual references white (ALA activated, but not ready -- I see this usually when it cant read one or both sides of the lane markers), green (ALA activated and ready to provide corrections), or red (ALA determined that a correction was required). I dont know if this is different for the RS5, or for your model year - but I suspect it isnt.

Also - once you do get it fixed - the "early" setting just makes more frequent adjustments, and as you are driving, you will feel the system correcting you often. Its definitely not self driving though - there are many situations where it turns itself off (even if you have hands on wheel, but loose so it can steer itself - it will eventually tell you to grab the wheel -- or more often than not, it loses track of one or both lane markings).

[jim2562]

I haven't seen any mention on the A5.+.. board, but early '22 Q5's did not have an option for Early/Late. A fix was due but to my knowledge never implemented. Whether it is related to yours, I have no idea. My '20 A5 has Early/Late, but the '22 Q5 has been fine with the default setting.

[Smac770]

The D5 A8 introduced a modified system coined adaptive cruise assist and active lane departure warning. I wonder if they tried to integrate that for MY22 and then decided to back out of that.

Discuss the two new driver assistance systems "lane departure warning", "adaptive driving assist" with the customer as well as the "lane center guidance of the adaptive driving assistant".
1. Explain to the customer that:
The lane departure warning corresponds to the Audi active lane assist with "late" steering time.
and
The lane center guidance corresponds to the Audi active lane assist with "early" steering time.
2. If only the Lane Departure Warning is activated, a later steering intervention takes place. This gives the customer the feeling that the vehicle oscillates, crosses the lane or pulls to one side.
3. Show the customer how to activate the lane center guide of the adaptive driving assistant.

On the vehicles lacking the steering correction menu item, is "lane center guidance" a thing?

[RickNY]

Hmm, I forgot that the RS had its own optional RS Driver Assistance Package (as opposed to the now standard features on the A and S cars) -- which may differ from how the feature is implemented.

[Burrcold]

I just checked mine (2022 RS5) and it doesn't have early or late settings either (only has the same vibration toggle as shown in the picture above). Not that I use it often, but I would agree that it works like it's set in "early" mode in prior iterations of lane keep assistance. I.e. it doesn't ping pong you between the lines, rather it's closer to a line centering, which I like better (although I keep it off most of the time).

[workerONE]

I just checked mine (2022 RS5) and it doesn't have early or late settings either (only has the same vibration toggle as shown in the picture above). Not that I use it often, but I would agree that it works like it's set in "early" mode in prior iterations of lane keep assistance. I.e. it doesn't ping pong you between the lines, rather it's closer to a line centering, which I like better (although I keep it off most of the time).

That's interesting, I would bet that all 2022 RS5s with the driver's assistance package don't have a setting for Early or Late.

[mashani9]

My 2022 S5 has it, and I do not have dynamic steering, for what it's worth. It seems odd that the RS5s wouldn't have that option.

[Burrcold]

My 2022 S5 has it, and I do not have dynamic steering, for what it's worth. It seems odd that the RS5s wouldn't have that option.

Can you take a picture of what the menu screen looks like on your MMI?

[workerONE]

For anyone else missing "steering correction" settings in the MMI, there is a TSB, and a fix may be available if you ask your dealer, or it should be available soon.
The TSB: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...08224-0001.pdf

[btitus]

For anyone else missing "steering correction" settings in the MMI, there is a TSB, and a fix may be available if you ask your dealer, or it should be available soon.
The TSB: https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...08224-0001.pdf

Apologies for resurrecting this old thread, but I was wondering if you ever got this resolved? I recently purchased a '22 (B9.5) S4 Prestige and have the exact same issue -- Lane assist is available and functions, but there is no option in the MMI to set early or late assistance. Using VCDS, I found an adaptation in A5 called "Intervention Moment" with choices "Early", "Late" and "Selection via menu." The adaptation was already set at "Selection via menu" but as noted above, no menu is present in the MMI. I changed it to "Early" and can confirm that the car’s behavior is now lane-centering (early), vs. lane-departure correction (late).

I looked at the TSB you posted and searched for any followups, but it doesn't seem like Audi issued anything more on it. Interestingly, I was in a brand new Q5 loaner the other day, and the stalk button toggled between early/late, and you had to hold the stalk button to switch assist off.

Anyway, hoping perhaps you had it addressed and can share what happened. TIA