Would You Purchase the Competition Package??

[Ed99]

I think it is great the new RS5 has the option of adding the Competition Package. Just want to hear from the members whether you would get it or not and why?

[kfxjc]

If money was zero concern i think for what you get in the package it is totally worth the money, however 16k is a lot of money to add to a car that starts at 76k. Now if it came with the euro competition seats that might be another story!

[Zombie5150]

If I was ordering my car again I still wouldn't get it. There are some things I like about the package but there are some other things I'm not thrilled about. Some things I like are the red ceramic brake calipers and the wheels. Other things I don't really care for are the matte carbon (vs. gloss), more piano black on the front seats and the black stitching. I ordered mine the way I did because I wanted all the gloss carbon and the red stitching on the seats. Maybe seeing one up close and personal might change my mind but looking at the pics right now doesn't. Just my .02 because you asked, lol.

[Burrcold]

Nope. I'd rather put that extra money towards even better suspension, engine, and visual mods. That's $10k (minus out the carbon ceramics) to spend!

[Ed99]

I just noticed in Canada the Competition package is only $11,400 for the following which I think is a really good deal. Included in the package which I am curious about is the ECU and Differential tuning where I am wondering how much of a difference this will make. Other items I really like is the coilover suspension because I like to lower all my cars so that is a plus and those Lambo wheels is a definite plus.

Here is the link to the Canadian site:

https://www.audi.ca/ca/web/en/models...ild-price.html

[Burrcold]

I just noticed in Canada the Competition package is only $11,400 for the following which I think is a really good deal. Included in the package which I am curious about is the ECU and Differential tuning where I am wondering how much of a difference this will make. Other items I really like is the coilover suspension because I like to lower all my cars so that is a plus and those Lambo wheels is a definite plus.

Here is the link to the Canadian site:

https://www.audi.ca/ca/web/en/models...ild-price.html

That's because the Canadian version doesn't come with the carbon ceramic brakes. So if you want to be apples to apples with the US package, it's actually $17,400. That's a lot of money you can spend in the aftermarket. Now if you are someone who just wants it as-is already lowered, etc, from the factory, this may be a good route to go. I just don't think the changes add up to what you can do in the aftermarket (granted you don't have a warranty on those parts but that's a whole other story).

[SeatonS4]

I don't think that I would spend the money even though there are certain aspects I like. I like the matte carbon fiber personally. I also like the new wheels. Coming from my done up S4 to the RS5 as a daily I can say I am appreciative of the creature comforts (maybe I am just old). I don't care that you have to pay extra for them to remove things like sound insulation etc and that you don't get any bump in power. If it was like the old Plus packages for the S6 / S7s where you got some extra oomph along with a lighter wallet then maybe I would possibly give it a second thought. For now I am happy with my new to me 2019 and the multitude of boxes I am getting as I develop a first name relationship with the UPS guy.

[Ed99]

Anyone knows the ECU and differential tuning will make a big difference in speed wise and better launches?

[Burrcold]

Anyone knows the ECU and differential tuning will make a big difference in speed wise and better launches?

Considering Audi quotes a 0.1 second faster 0-60 time for the Performance model, I doubt they have much effect on speed. The lower time is than likely related to the weight reduction vs any ECU/TCU/DIFF tuning.

[Dan99]

I think it is great the new RS5 has the option of adding the Competition Package. Just want to hear from the members whether you would get it or not and why?

Personally, I would wait to see some more performance oriented reviews on a track. My guess is that the car will be more nimble and capable on the track and twisty roads, but less comfortable as a daily driver. But, even if it feels more nimble, I want to know how much objective improvement there is for $16,000, and where that places the car relative to the base model and the competition. Actually, I find it a bit surprising that no head-to-head comparisons are available yet. So far, everything I have found is anecdotal and subjective in nature. Here's a couple examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5_0jcjN9uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxW40h9hC-0

[Burrcold]

Personally, I would wait to see some more performance oriented reviews on a track. My guess is that the car will be more nimble and capable on the track and twisty roads, but less comfortable as a daily driver. But, even if it feels more nimble, I want to know how much objective improvement there is for $16,000, and where that places the car relative to the base model and the competition. Actually, I find it a bit surprising that no head-to-head comparisons are available yet. So far, everything I have found is anecdotal and subjective in nature. Here's a couple examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5_0jcjN9uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxW40h9hC-0

So many of the reviews talk about how much better the brakes are and that it's a welcome addition to the Competition Package...car journalists don't do any homework and have probably never even driven a standard RS5 loaded up with all of the options (otherwise they would know that CCB were options since the B9 launch).

Joe Achillies review is probably the most trusted in my opinion as he had literally finished a standard RS4 vs M3 Comp comparison only a few weeks before. At least he had the standard RS4 fresh in his head to compare to the Competition edition (not to mention Joe is a knowledgeable driver/track guy as well).

[B6_Dolphin]

Personally, I would wait to see some more performance oriented reviews on a track. My guess is that the car will be more nimble and capable on the track and twisty roads, but less comfortable as a daily driver. But, even if it feels more nimble, I want to know how much objective improvement there is for $16,000, and where that places the car relative to the base model and the competition.

Here's the best description I've found of the Competition Package offerings:

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/17/...dQz_7zPP8jMV-w

[Dan99]

Here's the best description I've found of the Competition Package offerings:

https://www.autoblog.com/2022/05/17/...dQz_7zPP8jMV-w

I know what the package contains. I just want to know the specific performance gains it actually delivers.

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[Ed99]

I saw on one of the review that the competition package is .2 seconds faster due to better calibration with the launch control. But would love to see some 1/4 miles times. Stock it runs anywhere from 11.8 to 12 seconds consistently.

[Dan99]

I saw on one of the review that the competition package is .2 seconds faster due to better calibration with the launch control. But would love to see some 1/4 miles times. Stock it runs anywhere from 11.8 to 12 seconds consistently.

I'm more interested in handling performance. It did not get any more power, and the most significant changes were aimed at handling instead of straight line performance. Under/over steer, lap time comparisons, feel, etc.

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[B6_Dolphin]

I saw on one of the review that the competition package is .2 seconds faster due to better calibration with the launch control. But would love to see some 1/4 miles times. Stock it runs anywhere from 11.8 to 12 seconds consistently.

My preference for checking the "Comp Package" box is a more rear-wheel bias'd Quattro, factory-installed C/O suspension, which is adjustable, along with the different sway bars. The lighter wheels and stickier tires are a bonus.

A fixed and more aggressive coilover suspension is installed, and the car’s ride height is reduced by 0.4 inch. The suspension system is height-adjustable, though, and owners can lower it another 0.4 inch to be 0.8 inch lower than a standard RS 5. A new sport sway bar is installed in front, and mega-grippy Pirelli P Zero Corsa tires are fitted at all four corners wrapping new 19-inch wheels. The Quattro sport rear differential is “enhanced” to increase agility further in Dynamic mode. The ABS system is tuned differently, and Audi claims the stopping distance from 62 to 0 mph is reduced by 6.5 feet — the carbon ceramic brake package comes standard with this model. Even the steering is addressed, and Audi says it’s dialed in to be more precise than before, offering a fixed ratio of 13.1:1.

[Ed99]

So far I have seen 1 Competition in my area that just arrived a few weeks ago. It looks pretty sick with those new wheels and a slight drop!!

[a4 4snow]

So far I have seen 1 Competition in my area that just arrived a few weeks ago. It looks pretty sick with those new wheels and a slight drop!!

What area are you in? I am having issues with dealers in California ordering me one. Keep getting either we can’t order them or it’s over a year wait, even though they have pending unlocked orders with the factory.


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[B6_Dolphin]

I think this video does a great job of showing off the Competition Package. Nice mini power-on drift to start off the clip...



Stoked about all the driveline S/W changes, plus the known hardware changes.

[IamRacer X]

Every review Ive read on the Comp package suggests the car is more of a drivers car. More connected and responsive. The one thing I have always felt about my RS5 is it has a numb and insolated feel when pushed. Yes it comes with a big price tag considering there is no power gain, but I think I would welcome the more rewarding driving experience.


PS The comp wheels are so sexy..... so there is that too.

[Ed99]

What area are you in? I am having issues with dealers in California ordering me one. Keep getting either we can’t order them or it’s over a year wait, even though they have pending unlocked orders with the factory.


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There are 1 in BC and 1 in Ontario Canada right now.

https://www.autotrader.ca/a/audi/rs%...%200B4&sprx=-1


Agree the wheels is sick and the lowering!!!

[B6_Dolphin]

What area are you in? I am having issues with dealers in California ordering me one.

FWIW - here's a '23 Ascari Blue S/B w/Competition Package that's "In-transit" to Audi of Modesto:

https://www.audimodesto.com/new/Audi...33142c1e15.htm

[Rs5nardo]

FWIW - here's a '23 Ascari Blue S/B w/Competition Package that's "In-transit" to Audi of Modesto:

https://www.audimodesto.com/new/Audi...33142c1e15.htm

Crazy markup. Dealers are not being cool for this.

[dal59]

Comp Package with no additional power to me seems absurd - useless!

[Smac770]

https://youtu.be/UqvpIenUmL0

Thomas seemed to really like it. As for the price bump, .... It's too bad they don't offer a dealer accessory power tune or such, something like Ford Performance Parts performance pakcs. Got to be cheaper to CARB cert a tune than a full EPA emissions test set.

[VVG]

Personally, I would wait to see some more performance oriented reviews on a track. My guess is that the car will be more nimble and capable on the track and twisty roads, but less comfortable as a daily driver. But, even if it feels more nimble, I want to know how much objective improvement there is for $16,000, and where that places the car relative to the base model and the competition. Actually, I find it a bit surprising that no head-to-head comparisons are available yet. So far, everything I have found is anecdotal and subjective in nature. Here's a couple examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5_0jcjN9uw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxW40h9hC-0

Honestly, who really buys an RS5 for a track car? Sure you can take it on a track and it will perform, but if lap times are your primary concern, I think a different car is in the calling. These are luxury performance rockets for the road. They are amazing daily drivers for the enthusiast. The RS5 is about as balanced in its intended purpose as any car out there. If Audi want to makes it slightly more "performance" focused, okay, but don't think these changes will be transformational.

[Cheech666]

Here’s a really nice review in my opinion
https://jalopnik.com/2023-audi-rs5-c...1849617800/amp

For now im not going to upgrade to the comp package. Im going to wait a bit.

[Lethalsouls]

Here’s a really nice review in my opinion
https://jalopnik.com/2023-audi-rs5-c...1849617800/amp

For now im not going to upgrade to the comp package. Im going to wait a bit.

Lol I posted a pic of my non blacked out RS5 in the comments when people were complaining about the black test cars.

[Ed99]

Here is a pretty good review on it and this might help change your mind in getting into a Competition package. Car appears to be quicker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqvpIenUmL0

[c99]

I thing suspension will be too harsh for everyday use and I love DRC and Audi drive select options,
Shorter time for gear change makes 0,1 sec 0-60 mph, who cares?
Steering, if You have VCDS You can code fixed steering ratio like it is in Competition (for Dynamic steering only)
Exhaust - resonator delete is much better (with Sound actuator turned off) than Competition exhaust
More pronounced sound of engine due to less dampening material - not for me

Wheels looking great, carbon brakes are not for me

I have chiptuning with Exhaust flaps open all the time in Dynamic and more pop and bangs and longer (constantly 1 sec from 3000 till 6000 rpm in all gears), shorter time out between them etc.

So I think I can spend 16000 (or less) better than Audi did, so it's not for me.

[Dan99]

Honestly, who really buys an RS5 for a track car? Sure you can take it on a track and it will perform, but if lap times are your primary concern, I think a different car is in the calling. These are luxury performance rockets for the road. They are amazing daily drivers for the enthusiast. The RS5 is about as balanced in its intended purpose as any car out there. If Audi want to makes it slightly more "performance" focused, okay, but don't think these changes will be transformational.

We all want something different from a car. The Competition model changes are primarily about handling, not profiling on the boulavard. I would not call the RS5 a track car, but it is far more capable than most drivers, and it is a lot of fun on the track when the typical bimmer driver can't keep up. If I'm paying for performance suspension components, I want to know how that money contributes to actual performance, and aren't just cosmetic.

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[Dan99]

Honestly, who really buys an RS5 for a track car? Sure you can take it on a track and it will perform, but if lap times are your primary concern, I think a different car is in the calling. These are luxury performance rockets for the road. They are amazing daily drivers for the enthusiast. The RS5 is about as balanced in its intended purpose as any car out there. If Audi want to makes it slightly more "performance" focused, okay, but don't think these changes will be transformational.

Regarding intended use, my interest in RS cars started when Audi invited me to drive an R8 and RS7 on a track. I would not call the RS7 a track car, but the track allows you to explore the car's capabilities in a safer environment while developing your driving skills. Apparently, Audi thought the track was a good place to illustrate what these cars can do. My RS5 is not as capable on the track as an R8, but it is more capable than an RS7.

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[KOSTIC]

I ordered a RS5 Sportback with the comp package in October on an allocation that is supposed to deliver in March/April '23.
I got the comp package because getting these options from the factory is an easier sell to the wife than aftermarket upgrades. The factory warranty is a nice bonus too.

[Lensch09]

Crazy markup. Dealers are not being cool for this.

They won't get it there - Modesto is a dump.

-DL

[Ed99]

There were a few Competition package in Canada and no mark up from the Dealer and it took about 2 week for both to be sold at MSRP.

[thadoggfatha]

I have thought about the RS5 comp as an option for some time now. For me there isn’t enough difference. For one we don’t get the seats that are availible overseas. The tech is the same, power is unchanged, and the suspension is not adjustable without getting out manually adjusting it. I find the ability to switch the suspension during the drive to be huge plus for this car. Now if your only concern is track performance I’m sure there are improvements made (I see virtually no track use). However if in future renditions they shoved in the V8 from the RS6/7, I will pick one up immediately.

Sean

[-AW-]

Getting my Öhlins Road & Track coilovers installed this week if it arrives in time before Xmas, otherwise will be installed the following week. Looking forward to it as I found the stock suspension is not to my liking (mine doesn't have the Dynamic Package so no DRC). Way to bouncy and very busy for day to day driving. I'm a believer for a one-setting for all set up rather than an electronic adjustable suspension set up. I would be curious how the Öhlins compares to the Comp package (KW?) coilovers.

[VVG]

Getting my Öhlins Road & Track coilovers installed this week if it arrives in time before Xmas, otherwise will be installed the following week. Looking forward to it as I found the stock suspension is not to my liking (mine doesn't have the Dynamic Package so no DRC). Way to bouncy and very busy for day to day driving. I'm a believer for a one-setting for all set up rather than an electronic adjustable suspension set up. I would be curious how the Öhlins compares to the Comp package (KW?) coilovers.

Can't go wrong with Ohlins. If you are going to modify the suspension, do it right. Eager to read your reviews. I had Ohlins on my B7 RS4. They totally transformed the car. I felt like I was driving something 500lbs lighter.

[Ed99]

Was curious if anyone here bought a Competition package yet and what are you thoughts? Was it worth it?

[GolfGL]

New review up on Youtube for the RS4 Competition. Good closeups and details on the coilover adjustment kit around the 4 minute mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_T09WEs_O0