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    RS Torque Splitter Settings and Subjective Take

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    Now that I've got about 2,000 miles on my 2023 RS3 and a little bit of experience driving it at the limit, I wanted to share my thoughts and see what other insights you folks might have. Overall, I'm very happy that this feature was implemented for the 8Y and we can do something other than understeering at corner exit every time. A little background on me is that I autocross nationally and I'm an engineer in the vehicle dynamics area for an OEM. I just wanted to go over my thoughts on the different settings and how I think it could be better (I dream of tuning it myself with a laptop).

    RS Performance mode
    On stock Bridgestone Sports on asphalt in 2nd and 3rd gear, I'm finding the diff a little overactive in torque vectoring by the seat of my pants. It's drifting the car too much and walking the rear end over before the front end loses grip. It feels a little over-active to me for all out performance. Maybe it's perfect on a stickier tire (like the Trofeo R) and that's what it's tuned for and feed forward calibrations largely govern.

    Comfort mode
    I quickly switched to RS Individual to try to dial the torque vectoring down. Here, it felt much better for performance on the stock Bridgestones. I am getting more out of the front tires laterally in a corner exit scenario. It's a 4 wheel slide exit instead of a tail out drift. However, even in this dialed down mode, I've horsed around a bit in the wet and found myself glad that I had ESC Sport on since I found snap oversteer more than once.

    So, overall, we have a couple different settings for track oriented performance and I'm pretty happy about that. But, I'm actually finding myself wanting a safe, pushy setting... 8V mode if you will ... Because if it's loose and snappy on a wet road in Comfort mode, I imagine it will be quite a handful in snow, etc. We have more than enough settings for having fun. But if it's lacking anything, it's just a safe, boring mode when I want to get home in the snow and slush. But I will have more experience in these conditions in the next couple of months.

    I'm interested in anyone else's subjective take on this too. Sound off!

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    I feel like the car needs better rubber and am interested to see how it feels with stiffer sidewalls personally.
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    The Bridgestones on the 8Y are 300 Treadwear which in my opinion is a perfect balance between durability, comfort and performance. I think that the 8V had the pirellis P zeros which if I Remember right they were rated at 220 TW or so. Honestly, I wouldn't put the Pirelli Trofeo as an option unless I am 90% dedicated to road courses and if I were to do that I would rather have a second set of wheel/tires just for that.

    I haven't mess around with my 8Y yet but it feels better than the clunky 8V magnetic ride. The bite on the 8V 6 piston calipers is incredible, maybe it is so strong because the pads are thick and fat when new. I really don't want to mess around with the rear torque splitter too much unless I am on a deserted road, big parking lot or road course practicing, I am concerned regarding what you described(too much of a tail happy).
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    I live in a rural area in Northern Michigan with some really nice sweeping roads that I know very well. I use individual mode with suspension in comfort and everything else set to balanced and although the rear can be a little twitchy it is easily corrected with the gas pedal. I will have it on track in the spring but hope by then to be running a square setup with 265's all around. I'll be curious to see if the wider rear tires give it that safe feel that you speak of or if the understeer will come back and I will need to set the torque splitter to be more aggressive to compensate. The track I am going to is one I have been going to for 22 years so I am very familiar with it and I look forward to seeing how this car compares to the 8V in lap times. I am guessing I will be able to match my built motor 8V lap time with this car stock but we will see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by elijahallen View Post
    I live in a rural area in Northern Michigan with some really nice sweeping roads that I know very well. I use individual mode with suspension in comfort and everything else set to balanced and although the rear can be a little twitchy it is easily corrected with the gas pedal. I will have it on track in the spring but hope by then to be running a square setup with 265's all around. I'll be curious to see if the wider rear tires give it that safe feel that you speak of or if the understeer will come back and I will need to set the torque splitter to be more aggressive to compensate. The track I am going to is one I have been going to for 22 years so I am very familiar with it and I look forward to seeing how this car compares to the 8V in lap times. I am guessing I will be able to match my built motor 8V lap time with this car stock but we will see.
    Cool, what track do you speak of? I'm in Michigan too, but in the SE. I've really only found it twitchy on power, personally. So that's interesting that you find that that's what settles it down. But it does feel pretty free on corner entry too, just not excessively so for me. So I wouldn't personally want to go square and add to the steady state push, but I'd be interested in what you find going that route. I'm sure the diff is still going to help you get the rotation you want on corner exit.

    I plan to run it in BS class in autocross which requires stock wheel widths. So I'll likely have 275 front, 245 rear Bridgestone RE-71RS's. I can change one sway bar too, but we'll see if that's even needed once those tires are on. I plan to hit the track a couple times next year too, but just for fun, and probably not competition. Interested to see how the car feels above 2nd and 3rd gear at the limits... I could see your square setup being more confidence inspiring at those speeds!

    Quote Originally Posted by S3DUDE View Post
    The Bridgestones on the 8Y are 300 Treadwear which in my opinion is a perfect balance between durability, comfort and performance. I think that the 8V had the pirellis P zeros which if I Remember right they were rated at 220 TW or so. Honestly, I wouldn't put the Pirelli Trofeo as an option unless I am 90% dedicated to road courses and if I were to do that I would rather have a second set of wheel/tires just for that.

    I haven't mess around with my 8Y yet but it feels better than the clunky 8V magnetic ride. The bite on the 8V 6 piston calipers is incredible, maybe it is so strong because the pads are thick and fat when new. I really don't want to mess around with the rear torque splitter too much unless I am on a deserted road, big parking lot or road course practicing, I am concerned regarding what you described(too much of a tail happy).
    Agreed the Bridgestone Sport is a pretty great DD tire (other than being a bit noisy). I will definitely have a dedicated set of wheels and tires for performance though! I encourage you to find a local SCCA event to try the car at its limits. It's a blast and should help you gain comfort in exploiting its capabilities more often.

    Quote Originally Posted by NapalmEnema View Post
    I feel like the car needs better rubber and am interested to see how it feels with stiffer sidewalls personally.
    Agreed. The RE-71RS has more grip and sidewall stiffness... probably to the point that it exacerbates the feeling of body motion. I'll report back in the spring when I plan to run those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramo7769 View Post

    RS Performance mode
    On stock Bridgestone Sports on asphalt in 2nd and 3rd gear, I'm finding the diff a little overactive in torque vectoring by the seat of my pants. It's drifting the car too much and walking the rear end over before the front end loses grip. It feels a little over-active to me for all out performance. Maybe it's perfect on a stickier tire (like the Trofeo R) and that's what it's tuned for and feed forward calibrations largely govern.
    This description reminds me of watching a Ford Focus RS Autocross. Tail stepping out aggressively when not really warranted.

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    I also have the Potenza Sport tires. I'm liking them on the street, but I saw a TireReviews video where it was compared to the Michelin PS4S and a Goodyear, and the track testing kind of destroyed it. I think it was down 40% in tread in some spot, where the others were about 6-7%. I'm going to the track this weekend though, so I'll find out. I might not be fast enough to tear them up that much, haha.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheContrarian View Post
    This description reminds me of watching a Ford Focus RS Autocross. Tail stepping out aggressively when not really warranted.
    I switched to the RS3 from the Focus RS. The new rear diff means that both cars are extremely similar. I've just done street driving with the RS3 so far, but it does seem like the overall grip is higher. Though, my Focus was on PS4S tires that had seen 4 track weekends. They're also narrower.
    They could have also been in drift mode thinking it would be faster.

    Interested in hearing how all the mods work out. My plan is to switch to 18" wheels and find the right brake pads, and then maybe get a wavetrac front diff. Rear sway bar if I think it's needed. I probably wont touch the stock suspension. Maybe a stage 1 tune, but I'm not sure if that will be too much heat for the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeonoex View Post
    I also have the Potenza Sport tires. I'm liking them on the street, but I saw a TireReviews video where it was compared to the Michelin PS4S and a Goodyear, and the track testing kind of destroyed it. I think it was down 40% in tread in some spot, where the others were about 6-7%. I'm going to the track this weekend though, so I'll find out. I might not be fast enough to tear them up that much, haha.



    I switched to the RS3 from the Focus RS. The new rear diff means that both cars are extremely similar. I've just done street driving with the RS3 so far, but it does seem like the overall grip is higher. Though, my Focus was on PS4S tires that had seen 4 track weekends. They're also narrower.
    They could have also been in drift mode thinking it would be faster.

    Interested in hearing how all the mods work out. My plan is to switch to 18" wheels and find the right brake pads, and then maybe get a wavetrac front diff. Rear sway bar if I think it's needed. I probably wont touch the stock suspension. Maybe a stage 1 tune, but I'm not sure if that will be too much heat for the track.
    Interesting take on adding a front diff. How different would that be? From my layman understanding, would it be a proper full time AWD with rear & front being torque based?


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    Quote Originally Posted by xeonoex View Post


    I switched to the RS3 from the Focus RS. The new rear diff means that both cars are extremely similar. I've just done street driving with the RS3 so far, but it does seem like the overall grip is higher. Though, my Focus was on PS4S tires that had seen 4 track weekends. They're also narrower.
    They could have also been in drift mode thinking it would be faster.
    I would love to hear your comparison of the 8Y RS3 to the Focus RS. I’m currently in a Focus RS and am very intrigued by the RS3. Obviously on paper the RS3 is superior in just about every way. I’m wondering how they compare in driving feel. I’m worried I’ll lose/miss some of the engagement and playfulness of the RS. I would love to drive and 8Y RS3 but they are hard to find by me and most are already spoken for by the time they hit the lot. Some dealers have order slots available but it seems crazy to buy a car I’ve never driven, so looking for any feedback I can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amirh87 View Post
    Interesting take on adding a front diff. How different would that be? From my layman understanding, would it be a proper full time AWD with rear & front being torque based?
    I think the only change is that the front should have more grip on the tire that needs it. The RS3 has an open front diff, and I believe it uses the brakes to simulate an LSD, but that is not optimal. So an LSD on the front should mean more grip and lower temps in the brakes. It only really matters if you're tracking the car though, since it will do nothing until a front tire starts to lose grip. The last models of the Focus RS actually had the front LSD, though I'm not sure how much of a difference it made. I had a 2016.

    I don't think there is any way to make it proper full time AWD, but quattro is great about determining when it is needed. Full time AWD will definitely mean less MPG, for example.


    Quote Originally Posted by DaBeaRS3 View Post
    I would love to hear your comparison of the 8Y RS3 to the Focus RS. I’m currently in a Focus RS and am very intrigued by the RS3. Obviously on paper the RS3 is superior in just about every way. I’m wondering how they compare in driving feel. I’m worried I’ll lose/miss some of the engagement and playfulness of the RS. I would love to drive and 8Y RS3 but they are hard to find by me and most are already spoken for by the time they hit the lot. Some dealers have order slots available but it seems crazy to buy a car I’ve never driven, so looking for any feedback I can get.
    Yeah, they are very similar but also very different. The 8Y eliminates the understeer issues by implementing the torque vectoring, similar to the Focus RS, so on the track, the handling should feel similar, though I haven't tried it on track yet.
    Daily, it's a completely different machine. I was kinda tired of the manual, since it's not fun in traffic, and on the track, it means you have a lot more to worry about. So I was happy to switch to a DCT. It's pretty smooth in the comfort focused modes, and more abrupt in performance modes. I was surprised how present the engine braking is when downshifting in a performance mode on the RS3.

    My biggest complaint on the Focus RS is the suspension. The RS3 is completely different. All 3 drive modes are fine on the street. The Focus had 2 modes, and both were too stiff. I did have a 2016 without the revised dampers though, and I think those fixed the "pogoing" on uneven roads. The soft suspension does mean that you don't feel as connected to the road though. The Focus RS actually had really good steering feel and road feel, but a lot of that was due to the really stiff suspension. I definitely prefer the Audi overall. The Focus punishes you for not driving it fast. The Audi is fine to just cruise in.

    Interior wise, the RS3 is obviously a better place to be. Another big issue I had with the RS was that the gas pedal was plastic and wobbly. It made it hard to heeltoe consistently and confidently, which is one of the main reasons I wanted to get the RS3.

    I did a bunch of research before choosing the RS3. I did consider everything from 2 seaters to sedans. My other favorites are the Lotus Emira and Porsche Cayman. The C8 is a good deal as well. I might have gotten the Alpine A110s if it were available here and had some dealer support. Obviously very different cars compared the the RS3. If you want a manual with four doors, I think the CT4-V is something to consider.

    I have no regrets with the RS3. It really does do it all well. Daily driving, track driving, insane acceleration and grip, all with 4 doors and pretty good gas mileage. Less engagement in the driving feel, I'd say about the same in playfulness, and the engine does sound awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramo7769 View Post
    Cool, what track do you speak of? I'm in Michigan too, but in the SE. I've really only found it twitchy on power, personally. So that's interesting that you find that that's what settles it down. But it does feel pretty free on corner entry too, just not excessively so for me. So I wouldn't personally want to go square and add to the steady state push, but I'd be interested in what you find going that route. I'm sure the diff is still going to help you get the rotation you want on corner exit.

    I plan to run it in BS class in autocross which requires stock wheel widths. So I'll likely have 275 front, 245 rear Bridgestone RE-71RS's. I can change one sway bar too, but we'll see if that's even needed once those tires are on. I plan to hit the track a couple times next year too, but just for fun, and probably not competition. Interested to see how the car feels above 2nd and 3rd gear at the limits... I could see your square setup being more confidence inspiring at those speeds!



    Agreed the Bridgestone Sport is a pretty great DD tire (other than being a bit noisy). I will definitely have a dedicated set of wheels and tires for performance though! I encourage you to find a local SCCA event to try the car at its limits. It's a blast and should help you gain comfort in exploiting its capabilities more often.



    Agreed. The RE-71RS has more grip and sidewall stiffness... probably to the point that it exacerbates the feeling of body motion. I'll report back in the spring when I plan to run those.
    The track we go to in the spring is Grattan Raceway near GR. Its a great little technical 2 mile track with a lot of elevation change and cambered and off cambered turns. The event is the last weekend in April and for the past 10 years or so has been run by a group up near me called MFD motorsports but I think ACNA is going to be taking it back over this year. Come join us if you have time. PM me if you can't find a link. Registration usually starts in January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xeonoex View Post
    Yeah, they are very similar but also very different. The 8Y eliminates the understeer issues by implementing the torque vectoring, similar to the Focus RS, so on the track, the handling should feel similar, though I haven't tried it on track yet.
    Daily, it's a completely different machine. I was kinda tired of the manual, since it's not fun in traffic, and on the track, it means you have a lot more to worry about. So I was happy to switch to a DCT. It's pretty smooth in the comfort focused modes, and more abrupt in performance modes. I was surprised how present the engine braking is when downshifting in a performance mode on the RS3.

    My biggest complaint on the Focus RS is the suspension. The RS3 is completely different. All 3 drive modes are fine on the street. The Focus had 2 modes, and both were too stiff. I did have a 2016 without the revised dampers though, and I think those fixed the "pogoing" on uneven roads. The soft suspension does mean that you don't feel as connected to the road though. The Focus RS actually had really good steering feel and road feel, but a lot of that was due to the really stiff suspension. I definitely prefer the Audi overall. The Focus punishes you for not driving it fast. The Audi is fine to just cruise in.

    Interior wise, the RS3 is obviously a better place to be. Another big issue I had with the RS was that the gas pedal was plastic and wobbly. It made it hard to heeltoe consistently and confidently, which is one of the main reasons I wanted to get the RS3.

    I did a bunch of research before choosing the RS3. I did consider everything from 2 seaters to sedans. My other favorites are the Lotus Emira and Porsche Cayman. The C8 is a good deal as well. I might have gotten the Alpine A110s if it were available here and had some dealer support. Obviously very different cars compared the the RS3. If you want a manual with four doors, I think the CT4-V is something to consider.

    I have no regrets with the RS3. It really does do it all well. Daily driving, track driving, insane acceleration and grip, all with 4 doors and pretty good gas mileage. Less engagement in the driving feel, I'd say about the same in playfulness, and the engine does sound awesome.
    Great feedback, thank you! I have a 2018 with the revised dampers so the suspension isn’t as harsh as the 2016, but I can still rarely use my headrest. My other car is a 21 Miata which is also a choppy ride with the short wheelbase and aftermarket springs. I want something with more comfort and better fuel economy (RS averages 22-23 mpg daily driving) that is still fast and fun. The RS3, CLA45 AMG and Giulia Quad are the only cars I’ve considered upgrading to. The Quad has too many reliability concerns though. I’m going to wait for the ADM to come off the 8Y and try to find one to test drive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBeaRS3 View Post
    Great feedback, thank you! I have a 2018 with the revised dampers so the suspension isn’t as harsh as the 2016, but I can still rarely use my headrest. My other car is a 21 Miata which is also a choppy ride with the short wheelbase and aftermarket springs. I want something with more comfort and better fuel economy (RS averages 22-23 mpg daily driving) that is still fast and fun. The RS3, CLA45 AMG and Giulia Quad are the only cars I’ve considered upgrading to. The Quad has too many reliability concerns though. I’m going to wait for the ADM to come off the 8Y and try to find one to test drive.
    Nice combo! I think the RS3 would work nicely for what you want then. I had about a 23 MPG average on the RS, and only about 26-27 on the highway. I'm getting about 32 on the highway with the RS3. It definitely get better mileage then the RS. I think the Focus just had overdrive gears that were too short.

    I'm not sure if the laws are different in Chicago, but in Texas, I could put a deposit down to build a car and after it's built, if I test drive it and don't like it I would be able to get a refund. I got mine at MSRP as well, but I got on the list and a promise on the price last year in like June or something. It's definitely harder now, but may still be possible if you put in an order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeonoex View Post

    I did a bunch of research before choosing the RS3. I did consider everything from 2 seaters to sedans. My other favorites are the Lotus Emira and Porsche Cayman
    . The C8 is a good deal as well. I might have gotten the Alpine A110s if it were available here and had some dealer support. Obviously very different cars compared the the RS3. If you want a manual with four doors, I think the CT4-V is something to consider.

    I have no regrets with the RS3. It really does do it all well. Daily driving, track driving, insane acceleration and grip, all with 4 doors and pretty good gas mileage. Less engagement in the driving feel, I'd say about the same in playfulness, and the engine does sound awesome.

    Funny you should mention this...

    I am (like many enthusiasts) purchasing my swan song car. Everything, as you said, from RS7 down to Miata and GT86. Always found a fatal flaw:

    - RS7/M5 CS - too large and heavy and above my budget
    - R8/911/AMG GT - too expensive to maintain and above my budget
    - F Type / Afla Quad - too scared about reliability (says alot coming from a German car buyer...)
    - Mustang Mach 1 - can't stomach the price and isn't special like a GT350, also very heavy for a sports car
    - Camaro/Challenger - never considered either due to styling/interior preferences, also both are quite heavy like the Mustang
    - C63 - new ones are terrible on curb weight and the new hybrid turbo 4 is yuck yuck yuck
    - M3/4 - you already know what I am going to say...
    - RS5 - boring, literally would rather just get a Macan GTS instead (I already have a fully decked out B9 S5 with all suspension and engine mods, as a daily and find it extremely boring and tame and RS5 is more of the same)
    - Miata / GT 86 - by far my favorites but alas... Miata I literally can't fit (6ft 190lbs) and the twins do not have a powertrain I like (interior is also difficult to accept considering how awesome the Miata's is)
    - Cayman - unless I get the 981s there is no chance of getting a GTS 4.0 or GT4 allocation anymore, also it's boring looking in non-GT4 body
    - Veloster N - no joke drove one of these and LOVED IT, but alas out of production, hated the mismatching pillars due to the 3 door layout (my OCD couldn't handle it), and the Elantra N and Kona N don't do it for me. Despite being FWD I still enjoyed it.
    - Civic Type R/Golf GTI/R - while I loved the Mk7 GTI, the news one are very ugly and even with tons of mods won't scratch my 'sports car' itch. Same with the Civic Type R, just too sedate and FWDy for me without the added drama for those concessions like the Veloster N had
    - Supra - totally thought I was going to get one considering my adoration of the B58 and it's curb weight is low enough and it drives awesome, but I'd be lying if I didn't admit I HATE the looks of it, seriously not my style...
    - C8 Corvette - on paper a perfect match for me, in real life I hate the looks completely and the interior is a HARD pass for me dawg... cool car, just wouldn't personally buy one. Wish I could get a Z06 but don't think that's in my budget haha

    All that's left is to check out the 'New' Z (which so far seems to be a bit of a disappointment considering it's price increase) or the Emira. Emira looks amazing and with the M139 and DCT should be a potent combo. But it's everything around the car that is the issue - servicing, parts availability, reliability, etc. But now that it seems Geely is supplying them to an extent, my confidence in purchasing this is a little higher. Still would rather take the Jag though...

    So my options are basically RS3 (which I am not too fond of the looks or interior, but seems to be one of the more fun cars of the bunch which I value extremely highly), OR the 'New Z' and Emira. I figure all would likely cost the same in the end - RS3 $70k + $15k in mods, Nismo Z is likely going to be $65k + $15k in mods, and Emira I would likely not mod but has a high sticker price of $85k for the i4 non-FE model. Jag also is around $80k for RWD model but comes with a SC V8 and I prefer the looks to the Emira so I would always have that doubt. In the end, I feel I will puss out on actually buying the Emira or Jag, and the Nismo Z probably won't be to my liking (esp the 9 speed auto, which I heard was particularly not good). I really prefer DCTs so sounds like the RS3 might be my swan song car. The ONLY reason I never considered the old one was despite it's amazing i5 engine, I absolutely hated the FWDiness of it and didn't find the chassis particularly good compared to most RWD cars. But the new one seems to have a completely different personality compared to its predecessor, and I actually like that it traded off some 'ring performance' for what is perceived to be more of a handful and rambunctious driving experience (very similar to the Veloster N in that regard).

    What I am trying to say young lads... is the alure of exterior beauty wears off over time, but the personality she brings to the table is what makes her a keeper. And in that regard, the RS3 has that in spades it seems....
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    Yep, I agree with a ton of your points. I also wanted Android Auto, which oddly isn't on all new cars still.

    I love the looks of the Emira. More than most actual supercars. My next favorite in looks is honestly the ND Miata. If the Miata had like 60 more HP I would probably have one.
    I've always been a fan of sedans that are on the border of sleeper and aggressive though, which the RS3 definitely is.
    I did consider weight pretty heavily, but didn't want a car that is really down on power. I may get a dedicated sports car in the future for the track, or even something really dedicated off of racingjunk, but it's definitely not a need at the moment. I think I'll keep the RS3 for a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeonoex View Post
    Yep, I agree with a ton of your points. I also wanted Android Auto, which oddly isn't on all new cars still.

    I love the looks of the Emira. More than most actual supercars. My next favorite in looks is honestly the ND Miata. If the Miata had like 60 more HP I would probably have one.
    I've always been a fan of sedans that are on the border of sleeper and aggressive though, which the RS3 definitely is.
    I did consider weight pretty heavily, but didn't want a car that is really down on power. I may get a dedicated sports car in the future for the track, or even something really dedicated off of racingjunk, but it's definitely not a need at the moment. I think I'll keep the RS3 for a long time.
    I realize we are getting off topic but the ND1 Miata (pre 2019) has 155hp and the ND2 (2019+) has 181hp. There are established forced induction options for the ND1 which will get you the extra 60hp for $5k. ND2 forced induction is just coming to market and they are still working on fueling but it’s looking like 230 whp is a safe spot and is plenty for a car that size/weight IMO.

    Agree with you on the Emira, looks a hell of a lot more of expensive than it actually is. Beautiful car.

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    I’m running a square 255/35 19 setup now and compared to stock staggered there is less play in the rear. So yeah any squared setup will help with not being too tail happy.

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    I'm trying to decide on a track wheel setup and I can't choose between square or keeping the stagger. Definitely had some oversteer at the track, but it wasn't bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xeonoex View Post
    I'm trying to decide on a track wheel setup and I can't choose between square or keeping the stagger. Definitely had some oversteer at the track, but it wasn't bad.
    Pretty amazing to read "complaints" about oversteer in an Audi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elijahallen View Post
    The track we go to in the spring is Grattan Raceway near GR. Its a great little technical 2 mile track with a lot of elevation change and cambered and off cambered turns. The event is the last weekend in April and for the past 10 years or so has been run by a group up near me called MFD motorsports but I think ACNA is going to be taking it back over this year. Come join us if you have time. PM me if you can't find a link. Registration usually starts in January.
    Nice, I've been to Grattan a couple times. Curious to hear your thoughts whether I get to this event or not!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetdriver View Post
    Pretty amazing to read "complaints" about oversteer in an Audi.
    Exactly! Very happy this is a problem now lol. It is a neutral chassis (with stagger) and maybe some overbaked diff settings. I'll take it over a plow monster any day. I've got a square winter setup on now. I miss the front grip. Glad we've got that wide body up front so I can get that turn-in back in the spring.

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    Reviving an old thread here.

    I am a recent purchaser of a 2023 RS3 and I have some questions about Torque Splitter and other parameters in RS Individual Mode, RS Performance Mode, and Dynamic Mode.

    Neither the Owner’s Manual nor any Audi publication mentions what the three available Torque Splitter settings do; nor is there any description of what the parameter “Drive” means; further still there is no mention of what the two available settings under Drive (Balanced and Sport) are intended to do.

    Questions:
    1) In RS Individual Mode:
    (a) What is Torque Splitter Comfort intended to do?
    (b) What is Torque Splitter Balanced intended to do?
    (c) What is Torque Splitter Sport intended to do?
    (d) What is the parameter “Drive” intending to adjust?
    2) In RS Performance Mode:
    - This Mode eliminates the possibility to alter three parameters from RS Individual Mode: Torque Splitter, Drive, and Engine Sound. Do I assume correctly that all of these are fixed and preset to the most advanced setting? If not, please explain.
    3) Dynamic Mode
    a) Do I assume correctly that all parameters in this mode are fixed and preset to the most advanced settings?
    b) If the answer to 3(a) were “yes,” I still wouldn’t think ESP would be fixed and preset to “ESP Sport” in Dynamic mode. I would think it would be fixed and preset to “On,” or normal ESP mode. Please confirm.
    b) Do I assume correctly that the only difference between Dynamic mode and RS Performance Mode is that in Dynamic, one cannot change settings for Steering, Suspension, ESP, and Torque Rear? Or is there some other intention of Dynamic?

    Thank you in advance! Audi should have saved me and everyone else the trouble by publishing something about all this.

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    Oh and I should have noted - I am in the US with a US-spec 2023 RS3.

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