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    should i use silicone adhesive or oem gasket for oil pan?

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    i have an oil leak, and i think it might be the oil pan gasket going bad. not sure how that happened.
    not sure at this moment why its even leaking. the leak started small and now its coming out a lot.

    ill know for sure by this week.

    but my question is, should i replace it with a new OEM gasket or use the silicone glue that many people use with installing their aftermarket oil pans?

    btw i might even upgrade to the metal one since i have to remove the plastic one anyways.

    either way, i was thinking if i use the glue version, the removal process is kinda crappy down the road. anything could happen and i may need to replace the pan again for whatever reason.

    i have used this type of glue before (hated it when i had to remove it) and was wondering if using the OEM gasket would still be better.

    does audi have its own version of this glue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 949 View Post
    i have an oil leak, and i think it might be the oil pan gasket going bad. not sure how that happened.
    not sure at this moment why its even leaking. the leak started small and now its coming out a lot.

    ill know for sure by this week.

    but my question is, should i replace it with a new OEM gasket or use the silicone glue that many people use with installing their aftermarket oil pans?

    btw i might even upgrade to the metal one since i have to remove the plastic one anyways.

    either way, i was thinking if i use the glue version, the removal process is kinda crappy down the road. anything could happen and i may need to replace the pan again for whatever reason.

    i have used this type of glue before (hated it when i had to remove it) and was wondering if using the OEM gasket would still be better.

    does audi have its own version of this glue?
    I just had the same thing happen and opted to "fix" it for the time being using black RTV. I know there is an adhesive used for the cam cradle, maybe that would work. The gasket is something like 13 bucks so it might just make sense to use that instead of something that may fail more quickly, not sure the life on RTV and other silicone gasket adhesives.

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    I replaced the gasket last year. Since I stayed with the OEM oil pan I didn't want to change anything. It's been good so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKozS3 View Post
    I just had the same thing happen and opted to "fix" it for the time being using black RTV. I know there is an adhesive used for the cam cradle, maybe that would work. The gasket is something like 13 bucks so it might just make sense to use that instead of something that may fail more quickly, not sure the life on RTV and other silicone gasket adhesives.
    RTV is pretty hard to remove when we need to remove them. that's my concern at the moment.
    are you saying the OEM gasket (plastic/rubber) is only $13?
    that's not bad at all.


    Quote Originally Posted by evo v View Post
    I replaced the gasket last year. Since I stayed with the OEM oil pan I didn't want to change anything. It's been good so far.

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    to clarify, did you use the OEM gasket and not RTV glue?

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    Sorry, that was the gasket for the upper timing chain cover. $35 from FCP https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/vw-...-vw-06k103649j

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    FCP also has a kit which includes all the bolts etc, and part of it is VW silicone gasket so using RTV probably wouldn't be the worst idea.

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    Yes. I used the rubber OEM gasket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evo v View Post
    Yes. I used the rubber OEM gasket.

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    ok. i was hoping to know if this is a good idea.
    now im curious if the OEM gasket will work with an aftermarket oil pan?

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    my next question for everyone is, what do you think is the reason the oil pan started to leak in your own cars?

    or was it just a defective part that vw/audi makes?
    this is my first vw/audi car and i have noticed things breaking where other brands like honda/acura/toyota/etc.. would hold up very well over time and use. to me these are common things that should NOT break down that soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 949 View Post
    ok. i was hoping to know if this is a good idea.
    now im curious if the OEM gasket will work with an aftermarket oil pan?
    Wortec looks to have a galley for the OEM gasket to fit, others like the iAbed do not. So it depends on what route you wanted to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKozS3 View Post
    Wortec looks to have a galley for the OEM gasket to fit, others like the iAbed do not. So it depends on what route you wanted to go.
    interesting find. never heard of this company before.
    when it says it uses OEM seal but version mk3. does that mean its fits the mqb 8v audi s3 as well?

    i was aiming for the neuspeed oil pan. seems robust and has a pretty decent branding behind it.

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    I just did mine I used prematex black


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    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...0ml/d176404m2/


    link to audi oil pan gasket silicone.
    $27.54
    msrp $34.20

    not sure if its the same as when they installed the stock gasket.
    Product Details
    Commonly used as the oil pan gasket, timing cover gasket, or other various locations on VW and Audi vehicles.

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    D176404A2
    anyone use this before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 949 View Post
    https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-...0ml/d176404m2/


    link to audi oil pan gasket silicone.
    $27.54
    msrp $34.20

    not sure if its the same as when they installed the stock gasket.
    Product Details
    Commonly used as the oil pan gasket, timing cover gasket, or other various locations on VW and Audi vehicles.

    Previous Revisions
    D176404A2
    Cross Reference
    D176404A2
    anyone use this before?
    If you look on FCP euro they have a kit that includes the silicone gasket material and the rubber gasket, I assume they are used in tandem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BKozS3 View Post
    Wortec looks to have a galley for the OEM gasket to fit, others like the iAbed do not. So it depends on what route you wanted to go.
    with your referral i have decided to go with the wortec.

    my requirement is that i don't have to use silicone to install it. which this one seems to be the perfect fit for what im looking for. also it uses the OEM gasket. that's a plus. i thought i would use an aftermarket one but it includes in the package the OEM item.

    thanks for that reference.

    lots of positives with the wortec so far.
    increase of oil capacity.
    aluminum
    no silicone installation
    uses OEM oil pan gasket, included.
    extra ports if i need it.
    price. some others are higher with about the same quality and different designs.
    i personally like how this looks. its NOT a welded style look. which i prefer. i found a lot with the welded look, which im not fond of.
    Last edited by 949; 11-11-2022 at 10:52 AM.

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    how detrimental is adhering the tq specs when tightening the bolts back?

    I'm in the process of getting a torque wrench for such a low tq yield.

    I'm leaning toward getting the new tool and then doing it right.

    but, I'm curious how far off it would be to just tighten by feel? would it still work?

    tq spec is 6 ft-lbs plus 45 degree turn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 949 View Post
    how detrimental is adhering the tq specs when tightening the bolts back?

    I'm in the process of getting a torque wrench for such a low tq yield.

    I'm leaning toward getting the new tool and then doing it right.

    but, I'm curious how far off it would be to just tighten by feel? would it still work?

    tq spec is 6 ft-lbs plus 45 degree turn.
    I would just wait for the inch pound wrench so you don't squish the new gasket.

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    definitely. have it on order as i got confirmation today.

    as for the leaks, i am seeing people saying it is happening on their 15 and 16 cars so far. another issue i guess that we early adopters are seeing. I'm just happy that its not a huge issue to fix. something i can do in one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 949 View Post
    definitely. have it on order as i got confirmation today.

    as for the leaks, i am seeing people saying it is happening on their 15 and 16 cars so far. another issue i guess that we early adopters are seeing. I'm just happy that its not a huge issue to fix. something i can do in one day.
    I'm interested in your impression. I plan to go this same route, though I will be waiting till my next oil change, I still have a very small leak so I will just top off as I go.

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    funny thing about this leak, including myself but it seems to start small and after a few hundred miles later it seems to be dumping out a lot now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 949 View Post
    interesting find. never heard of this company before.
    when it says it uses OEM seal but version mk3. does that mean its fits the mqb 8v audi s3 as well?

    i was aiming for the neuspeed oil pan. seems robust and has a pretty decent branding behind it.
    I have the Wortec oil pan, and it does have the gasket galley. It is a little larger (depth-wise) so holds a little over a quart more oil… definitely a more robust option than stock plastic pan.

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    thanks man. i did go with the wortec oil pan route.

    i do have it now. its sitting in my garage. it looks solid. i have to say the build seems very good.

    its waiting to be installed as I am waiting on my new torque wrench tool. kind of been waiting for a reason to buy a new tool. here is the reason.

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