Vredestein tires

[paul-g]

Well time for some tires and sae these and they are more affordable than Continental or Michelin tires and as the Continentals I have on now seem to wear quickly even though they're all season I was looking at other options.

So the Vredestein hyper trac all season and quarrac pro all season and from all the video reviews seem like they are a good middle of the road tire and seem to do well in rain and quietest a set of all the other all seasons.

Look to see if anyone has ever used them and have real world feed back

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[Audibot]

I'm currently trying out a set of Hypertracs, coming off a set of Pilot Sport A/S 3+s.

Vredestein has a 100 day trial period, so I am hoping to form a complete opinion in that time. Installed in August; noticed immediately that my mpg had decreased by about 3. I've given them probably a couple thousand miles in that time due to a few trips out of state. They have firmed up some, my mpg has also increased but not back to where it was with the Michelins. This matters to me somewhat because it's part of why I bought a TDI. So far this reason alone is making me consider the Michelin 4 Seasons.


Regarding handling, in the dry, the Vredesteins feel every bit as good as the Michelins. Maybe better. I have taken some aggressive turns at good speed without feeling it was going to give way. I have only had one wet driving experience, and it was not during a good rain, so it handled fine, but I don't have enough data yet to make a good assessment. Cannot speak for snow yet.

The tires are quiet as well (expected) and also do have a similar wheel protection bead that the Michelins have.

My folks got the Quattracs last year because they live in NJ and the tires are rated for severe snow. Zero issues in the snow for them so far, but they do not drive nearly as much as I do. I drove their car the last time I was up and it was smooth and quiet. Can't speak for the extremes on those tires, but it handles well enough for what they need.

[AudiInMyA7]

Idk where you guys live but check out tires etc. they have continentals for 270 a tire and 275’s for 200 a tire. Worth considering if you’re on the east coast.

I’m tempted to get some knock off tires but I already get shit mpg and didnt know till this thread that tired affect mpg. YIKES


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[sepheroth86]

I have never heard of Vredestein tires until now. A quick Google search shows that they are based out of Holland, and owned by Apollo tires out of India.

Where do yours say they are made?

I have been using Atlas Force UHP for summer duty with good results. Reasonable price, made in Thailand. Kumho and many other tires are also made in Asia so the quality should be on par.

[Audibot]

Idk where you guys live but check out tires etc. they have continentals for 270 a tire and 275’s for 200 a tire. Worth considering if you’re on the east coast.

I’m tempted to get some knock off tires but I already get shit mpg and didnt know till this thread that tired affect mpg. YIKES


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My tires are 255/35ZR20. 265 Contis are $286 a tire there; for that price, as I suggested, I may go swap these out for the Michelins and still save a bit of $ on them.

Tires def affect mpg. New tires usually are bad for a several hundred or more miles, but some stay worse than others. When I bought the car, it came with Toyo Proxes 4 Plus tires, but I swapped to the A/S 3+s when, after 8k miles, they were a bit looser in the rain than I preferred. Lost 3-4 mpg off the bat but think it rebounded as they continued to wear. I am hoping the Vredesteins do the same.

I have never heard of Vredestein tires until now. A quick Google search shows that they are based out of Holland, and owned by Apollo tires out of India.

Where do yours say they are made?

I have been using Atlas Force UHP for summer duty with good results. Reasonable price, made in Thailand. Kumho and many other tires are also made in Asia so the quality should be on par.

Hungary. I will also say I got the "closeout" deal on Tire Rack, so a bit cheaper than what they are now. $208 per tire is reasonable to me. I had Kumho Ecstas on my Allroad and they were good.

[paul-g]

well all the reviews i said is they have a high rolling resistance and that is also important to me as well.

as for tire cost the contiprocontact i can get for $318 a tire (what was on it when i got car) but the ones i got when i bought my car looked basically new and car had 48k on it i just hit 70k and they are shot (3 to 4/32'nds). To me i think that sucks for the money. This is why i'm looking around want something that ride nice and quiet decent handling and good wear. Michelin pilot sport a/s 4's seem good but would like a tire that does what i'm looking for and get better wear than 50k cause you know if they say 50k wear warranty that really means 35-40k lol


kinda leaning torwards quadtrac pro's if i go that route but looking for other suggestions the Vredesteins are roughly $250 each

[rj124104]

I don't have experience with the all seasons but their snow tires beat any blizzaks or michelins I have ever owned. Hands down the best winter tire. I was EXTREMELY tempted to try the all seasons based on that love, but ultimately costco has their $150 off install on michelin's making the gamble for the price not worth it for me. Went with the Michelins.

[Audibot]

well all the reviews i said is they have a high rolling resistance and that is also important to me as well.

as for tire cost the contiprocontact i can get for $318 a tire (what was on it when i got car) but the ones i got when i bought my car looked basically new and car had 48k on it i just hit 70k and they are shot (3 to 4/32'nds). To me i think that sucks for the money. This is why i'm looking around want something that ride nice and quiet decent handling and good wear. Michelin pilot sport a/s 4's seem good but would like a tire that does what i'm looking for and get better wear than 50k cause you know if they say 50k wear warranty that really means 35-40k lol


kinda leaning torwards quadtrac pro's if i go that route but looking for other suggestions the Vredesteins are roughly $250 each

I hadn't seen that--explains a bit. Aside from that bit, so far I'm happy. They're quiet for me.

I was thinking about going to Costco originally for the Michelins but could not get any kind of answer on when they'd be back in stock... really annoying to me.

[paul-g]

I have a Buddy guy local here I know with the mom and pop shop if I buy the tires through them whatever brand it is the mount balance for free so im just looking at good tire options

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[eurospek]

Great reviews. And I’ll be ordering some next. Prices look great! I’m tempted by the winter reviews.

[aaronsananikone]

I ran them stretched before on an previous car (VIP built Lexus 2GS)... TBH most budget tires/Asian tires are perfectly fine for daily driving use. I'm not a speed demon so I run the cheapest tires I can get on my works, and I stretch a 245 onto a 10.75 and every Asian brand I have run works out just fine... Accelera, Lexani, Advanta, Fullway, Lionhart you name it and I've probably run it and ran it stretched fitment... Right now I'm on Fullway's and even they do just fine with my e85 S7 @ 590awhp even under launch or hard driving

None the less I'm a bit different, I've never been a tire snob... I just don't and have never seen the need or point to run sport cup 2's at $900 per tire or something like that on a daily driver... I highly doubt the ~$700.00 delta is really noticeable in ride and traction quality on a daily driven car... Maybe if you're daily driving a GT3 or something like that then yeah I get it, but not on a 4,700lb land yacht... IDK I've always seen tires as the car version of the guy wearing $1,400.00 Jordans vs my $20 target brand vans slip-on knock offs lol

[paul-g]

I ran them stretched before on an previous car (VIP built Lexus 2GS)... TBH most budget tires/Asian tires are perfectly fine for daily driving use. I'm not a speed demon so I run the cheapest tires I can get on my works, and I stretch a 245 onto a 10.75 and every Asian brand I have run works out just fine... Accelera, Lexani, Advanta, Fullway, Lionhart you name it and I've probably run it and ran it stretched fitment... Right now I'm on Fullway's and even they do just fine with my e85 S7 @ 590awhp even under launch or hard driving

None the less I'm a bit different, I've never been a tire snob... I just don't and have never seen the need or point to run sport cup 2's at $900 per tire or something like that on a daily driver... I highly doubt the ~$700.00 delta is really noticeable in ride and traction quality on a daily driven car... Maybe if you're daily driving a GT3 or something like that then yeah I get it, but not on a 4,700lb land yacht... IDK I've always seen tires as the car version of the guy wearing $1,400.00 Jordans vs my $20 target brand vans slip-on knock offs lol

I get what your saying rolling resistance is the only thing holding me back on these, i do drive 60 miles a day. I ran general tires for a while on a charger r/r and loved them, kumho's on my older 07 a6 3.2l and liked those. A few hundred bucks delta I'd buy a name Brand expensive tire but when i can save 70-80 a tire grabs my attention more

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[sepheroth86]

I ran them stretched before on an previous car (VIP built Lexus 2GS)... TBH most budget tires/Asian tires are perfectly fine for daily driving use. I'm not a speed demon so I run the cheapest tires I can get on my works, and I stretch a 245 onto a 10.75 and every Asian brand I have run works out just fine... Accelera, Lexani, Advanta, Fullway, Lionhart you name it and I've probably run it and ran it stretched fitment... Right now I'm on Fullway's and even they do just fine with my e85 S7 @ 590awhp even under launch or hard driving

None the less I'm a bit different, I've never been a tire snob... I just don't and have never seen the need or point to run sport cup 2's at $900 per tire or something like that on a daily driver... I highly doubt the ~$700.00 delta is really noticeable in ride and traction quality on a daily driven car... Maybe if you're daily driving a GT3 or something like that then yeah I get it, but not on a 4,700lb land yacht... IDK I've always seen tires as the car version of the guy wearing $1,400.00 Jordans vs my $20 target brand vans slip-on knock offs lol

I get what your saying rolling resistance is the only thing holding me back on these, i do drive 60 miles a day. I ran general tires for a while on a charger r/r and loved them, kumho's on my older 07 a6 3.2l and liked those. A few hundred bucks delta I'd buy a name Brand expensive tire but when i can save 70-80 a tire grabs my attention more

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I have 285/30/21 Atlas Force UHP tires on my RS7 wheels.

They were $158 each vs the $300-500 per tire of other brands.

[Valpo A7]

Take a look at the Continental Extreme Contact tires ($240 each) as they are less expensive than the controls.

Vredestein tires look good on paper but look at the miles of comparison. Only 850,000 miles reported vs 6.5 mil on the Extremes. I can't tell on tire rack what their treadlife warranty is either, possibly less than the Conti's.

The UTSC number on the Extreme is 560 while the Verdestein is 500 which means they are expected to not last as long as the Extreme's.

[Audibot]

Take a look at the Continental Extreme Contact tires ($240 each) as they are less expensive than the controls.

Vredestein tires look good on paper but look at the miles of comparison. Only 850,000 miles reported vs 6.5 mil on the Extremes. I can't tell on tire rack what their treadlife warranty is either, possibly less than the Conti's.

The UTSC number on the Extreme is 560 while the Verdestein is 500 which means they are expected to not last as long as the Extreme's.

Considering how short they've been on the market, 850k miles isn't anything to snuff at. Not to mention I don't recall the last time a tire lasted as many miles as it should have on any of my Audis.

I personally had considered giving Continental another shot, but have still been on the fence based on how they screwed me over about 9 years ago.

Below is the warranty info (from the tire warranty tab on Tire Rack).

• Treadwear:8 Years from date of production / 50,000 Miles
• Uniformity Warranty:1 Year / First 2/32" of wear
• Workmanship & Materials Warranty:8 Years from date of production / Free replacement first year or 2/32" wear, then prorated until 2/32" remaining depth
• Manufacturer's Road Hazard Warranty:1 Year / first 2/32" of wear
• Manufacturer Warranty Brochure:Download PDF
• Manufacturer Special Warranty:100-day trial period (1)
• Additional Information:(1) Must purchase four, full refund or exchange

[paul-g]

Take a look at the Continental Extreme Contact tires ($240 each) as they are less expensive than the controls.

Vredestein tires look good on paper but look at the miles of comparison. Only 850,000 miles reported vs 6.5 mil on the Extremes. I can't tell on tire rack what their treadlife warranty is either, possibly less than the Conti's.

The UTSC number on the Extreme is 560 while the Verdestein is 500 which means they are expected to not last as long as the Extreme's.

like they said on AWD cars your lucky to get within 10k of what the warranty is on a tire. DW06's were on back ordered when i looked a month ago and considering 50k warranty maybe get 35k out of them maybe 40ish is you live in warm climate with no snow or anything (i live in CT)

[Valpo A7]

like they said on AWD cars your lucky to get within 10k of what the warranty is on a tire. DW06's were on back ordered when i looked a month ago and considering 50k warranty maybe get 35k out of them maybe 40ish is you live in warm climate with no snow or anything (i live in CT)

Previous car of mine. FWD Chevy with Michelins. I got 80K from a a 50K warranty tire. Replaced them with same Michelins and got same results. 3rd set I went less expensive with the Conti Control contacts but sold the car at 190K miles

Current 2012 A7, I got 63 - 64K miles from Conti Control contacts and they were rated for 50K.

Treat your tires right, keep them aired properly and rotate and you will exceed the tread warranty.


I live near Chicago and run all seasons all year dry, wet, or snow.

[Yeoman]

I ran them stretched before on an previous car (VIP built Lexus 2GS)... TBH most budget tires/Asian tires are perfectly fine for daily driving use. I'm not a speed demon so I run the cheapest tires I can get on my works, and I stretch a 245 onto a 10.75 and every Asian brand I have run works out just fine... Accelera, Lexani, Advanta, Fullway, Lionhart you name it and I've probably run it and ran it stretched fitment... Right now I'm on Fullway's and even they do just fine with my e85 S7 @ 590awhp even under launch or hard driving

None the less I'm a bit different, I've never been a tire snob... I just don't and have never seen the need or point to run sport cup 2's at $900 per tire or something like that on a daily driver... I highly doubt the ~$700.00 delta is really noticeable in ride and traction quality on a daily driven car... Maybe if you're daily driving a GT3 or something like that then yeah I get it, but not on a 4,700lb land yacht... IDK I've always seen tires as the car version of the guy wearing $1,400.00 Jordans vs my $20 target brand vans slip-on knock offs lol

Wow.. considering how important tires are to the safety of the vehicle its hard to imagine people can compare them to a pair of shoes. Running already compromised (stretched) cheap chinese tires is asking for trouble.. Make sure you warn your passengers

[sepheroth86]

Wow.. considering how important tires are to the safety of the vehicle its hard to imagine people can compare them to a pair of shoes. Running already compromised (stretched) cheap chinese tires is asking for trouble.. Make sure you warn your passengers

Many tires are made in the same facilities under a different brand.

Tires can not be sold here for on road use without first passing DOT tests.

[aaronsananikone]

Wow.. considering how important tires are to the safety of the vehicle its hard to imagine people can compare them to a pair of shoes. Running already compromised (stretched) cheap chinese tires is asking for trouble.. Make sure you warn your passengers

I live in California and work from home so I drive my cars maybe 10 miles a day if that, that is if I even get out of the house. The only safety issue I could imagine happening is a blow out, which has never happened to me, and I have been modding cars and running stretched tires for over 18 years. Also, in a previous life and career, I drove on a stretched tire for over 100 miles per day commute for over 4 years, and never once had any issues. When I was commuting a lot for work, I have seen cars have blow outs, and its usually a stock tire/wheel setup, and usually it's not a catastrophic, extreme or life threatening event either. Generally the driver just slows down and pulls to the shoulder of the highway. Keep in mind I think tire technology both high end manufacturer and Asian manufacturer has come a long way and it's not like the 90's when FORD Explorers were having blow outs and flipping end over end and bursting into uncontrollable flames... Unfortunately I think there is a lot of misconception behind stretched tires and it's usually from people who have no experience with them.

As for the shoes comparison, like I said, If I was driving a sports car like a GT3 which could benefit from the largest contact patch I could get, and the stickiest compound available, then yes it makes sense to run a high end tire. But if I'm driving 5 to 10 miles a day in a 4,700lb land yacht do I really need all that? Do you really need the latest $200 Nike's to go shoot a basketball around by yourself at the local park? Probably not. On the other hand, would those $200 Nikes help if you're playing in a competitive league? Then yeah they probably would... Guess it all boils down to you and your application. I was just saying most Asian tires have come a long way and are great tires for their price, even when "compromised" and stretched

[paul-g]

I live in California and work from home so I drive my cars maybe 10 miles a day if that, that is if I even get out of the house. The only safety issue I could imagine happening is a blow out, which has never happened to me, and I have been modding cars and running stretched tires for over 18 years. Also, in a previous life and career, I drove on a stretched tire for over 100 miles per day commute for over 4 years, and never once had any issues. When I was commuting a lot for work, I have seen cars have blow outs, and its usually a stock tire/wheel setup, and usually it's not a catastrophic, extreme or life threatening event either. Generally the driver just slows down and pulls to the shoulder of the highway. Keep in mind I think tire technology both high end manufacturer and Asian manufacturer has come a long way and it's not like the 90's when FORD Explorers were having blow outs and flipping end over end and bursting into uncontrollable flames... Unfortunately I think there is a lot of misconception behind stretched tires and it's usually from people who have no experience with them.

As for the shoes comparison, like I said, If I was driving a sports car like a GT3 which could benefit from the largest contact patch I could get, and the stickiest compound available, then yes it makes sense to run a high end tire. But if I'm driving 5 to 10 miles a day in a 4,700lb land yacht do I really need all that? Do you really need the latest $200 Nike's to go shoot a basketball around by yourself at the local park? Probably not. On the other hand, would those $200 Nikes help if you're playing in a competitive league? Then yeah they probably would... Guess it all boils down to you and your application. I was just saying most Asian tires have come a long way and are great tires for their price, even when "compromised" and stretched

Well all and all I'm not running stretched tires so for me not and issue. I would buy these only issue i have with them is the rolling resistance...fuel costs as they are why add to it.

I agree asian tire have come long way. My truck gets them and all is fine, maybe noisier but its a truck lol.


Thanks everyone appreciate the input

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[RedS-line]

Great tires for all season but mine are collecting dust because they cant compare to dedicated winter and summer tires which i swap between.
In fact, if you want to drive to Jersey my set of 4 has plenty of tread and I will unload them to you for 50 bucks a tire which is a steal.

[Dave D.]

What size are they? Are they the Vredestein Hypertracs?

[paul-g]

Great tires for all season but mine are collecting dust because they cant compare to dedicated winter and summer tires which i swap between.
In fact, if you want to drive to Jersey my set of 4 has plenty of tread and I will unload them to you for 50 bucks a tire which is a steal.

what size/model and where in jersey?

[RedS-line]

245/40R-18 VREDESTEIN QUATRAC 5 XL , central / north

[AudiInMyA7]

might be the wrong place but can anyone tell me/point me in the direction of how 255's will be on an 9" rim? i need new tires and the options are far more for 255 than 265 and i was wondering if i would suffer any damage/mpg loss/unusual wear and tear on them

[sepheroth86]

Audi uses up to a 275 on the 9" wide RS7 wheels.

I have a 285 on a set of RS wheels because the tires were significantly cheaper.