Newbie Here: Bang & Olufsen Advanced Sound System

[esdrs7]

Greetings, all, from Indiana (USA). Just purchased a slightly used 2021 Audi RS7. It's my first Audi. It has the optional 19 speaker Bang & Olufsen Advanced sound system. I came from a 2021 Genesis G90 which had a 17 speaker, 900 watt Lexicon stereo (note: there are no optional stereos on the 2017-2022 Genesis G90 in the USA; all of them come with the aforementioned Lexicon stereo as standard fare). The Lexicon stereo in the G90 is one of, if not THE best stereos I have ever heard in a vehicle (from the factory). The clarity is insane, the treble/highs can be ear-piercing (which I like), the 3-dimensional quality of sound is breathtaking, and sound pumps strongly through each and every speaker.

The purpose of this post is to comment, and in fact complain, on the Bang & Olufsen Advanced sound system in my RS7. It doesn't even come close to the clarity, depth, and tonal balance of my G90's Lexicon system. I had been extremely annoyed, unimpressed, and downright angry that this RS7's $4,900.00 top-tier stereo sounded so sub-par compared to its specs on paper. In addition, it's bizarre and just unacceptable that it doesn't let you control the midrange in any way. Yes, I've messed with all of the sound settings that it does offer, and until last night, nothing really sounded all that great. As far as I can tell, other than simple radio, the only external media sources the car can play are Bluetooth streaming or via a USB-C cord, and presumably music from a USB-C flash drive. There is no CD/DVD player in the glovebox, there is no AUX jack, and there is no SD slot.

In doing research on different Audi forums, I luckily stumbled across a post where a couple of people stated that they were able to really make their Bang & Olufsen stereo sound good by using Spotify which has an equalizer built-in. I never had Spotify, but last night I downloaded it to try it out and I'm here to tell you that OH MY GOD did it help the sound quality exponentially. By adjusting the built-in equalizer in Spotify, I'm now able to vastly increase the treble/highs and the clarity, and I'm able to reduce the midrange to my liking. Now, after stumbling across this wonderful "fix," my Bang & Olufsen stereo sounds almost as awesome as my Lexicon stereo. If any of you on here are unhappy or unimpressed with your Bang & Olufsen stereo, try playing music through Spotify and adjusting the equalizer by going to Settings/Playback/Equalizer.

In my opinion, and I am no audio expert at all, it's as if Bang & Olufsen doesn't want its customers to be able to make drastic changes to the stereo's sound settings, unlike most other stereo manufacturers, and it's a shame because it prevents a person from really hearing what the stereo has to offer. By using Spotify and adjusting the equalizer, it's as if I'm now able to "unleash" the stereo's true potential.

[Ace22]

Greetings from Ohio...I am glad you figured out some configurations within Spotify to help. Honestly, it's hard to beat the CD quality sound. I have Spotify as well (per my teenage daughter), but would prefer Tidal or other HD streaming services to maximize the user experience. I am by no means an audiophile, but have been pleased with the B&O system. Others can chime in, but just wanted to welcome you and hope you are enjoying such a nice ride!

[Alex M]

I don't have a clue what to listen for, not an audiophile at all. But I play music via Spotify and I've tweaked my in-app equalizer and the MMI audio settings. Honestly, the system sounds fantastic. The Virtual surround, 3D, etc.

[doughboy17]

You are correct. The B&O is not great. My brother's prior 2008 Lexus GS had the Mark Levinson stereo and it is the best I have heard in a car. My 1999 Olds Intrigue's stereo sounded better than my S4's B&O.

Make no mistake about it though, playing a CD vs. any other source is night and day difference on the B&O. Even ripping a CD to the hard drive through the B&O is considerably better than Spotify, Amazon Audio player, et al. Anymore, most people do not understand how much information/data is removed/compressed in MP3s vs. a a real CD.

[LjCalvinLindsey]

Get inside a newer Porsche with the Harmon & K system, and you'll never want to listen to music in any other car. I do agree that the B&O system can seem lackluster however with spotify, I can say I do enjoy listening to music (as do others) when they ride with m

[Jamborick]

Which Spotify equalizer setting do you find the best?

[esdrs7]

I've attached a screen shot of how I have my Spotify equalizer set. I like a lot of treble, low-to-no midrange, and mid-bass. Of course, not everyone would like the same settings. I have the RS7 sound settings set as follows: treble - max; bass - one notch below max; subwoofer - one notch below max; 3D effect - high; focus setting - Movie (I have found that the "Movie" setting is the most enveloping and robust and to me, it sounds better than "All"); surround - middle/center. To me, with all of those settings between Spotify and the car's settings, that's the best sound to my ears!

[Jamborick]

Thanks, I’ll give yours a shot and compare to what I’ve been using.


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[esdrs7]

The way that I tested the difference in sound quality was as follows: I chose a song that I really liked, that I knew sounded good, on YouTube. I played it just like I did in my Genesis G90, but of course the song sounded terrific in the G90. It sounded much worse in the RS7. Then I played the exact same song through Spotify and messed with the equalizer settings until it sounded how I liked. Then, I went back and forth a couple times between YouTube and Spotify on the same song, and the difference was huge. I was so damn happy! Also, I signed up for Spotify Premium, which is $9.99 a month and which offers higher-quality sound than the free Spotify (at least that's what they say in their advertisements for Spotify Premium). Premium also doesn't have any commercials, which is nice. Finally, with Premium, if you go into: Settings/Audio Quality, it gives you the ability to select "Very high" audio quality. You can't select that with the free Spotify account. I hope this additional information helps you. Let me know if you have any questions.

[sburch23]

Thanks for the advice. I find the muddy clarity and lack of deep bass in the B&O unacceptable. I spoiled myself years ago when i put an Alpine 5ch amp, 10" sub and Focal components in my 1999 Riviera. My dad owns a G90 so I will have to drive it around without him in the car to check it out. I will also try the Spotify solution before I spring for an upgraded system similar to the above.

[bobamoo]

I have a 2019 A6 with the B&O 3D system. Not sure what device the OP is using to play music in the car, but if it's an iPhone, the phone has a built in equalizer with manual and pre-formatted settings. I use that and the sound improvement is great! And yes, using Spotify or any streaming service looses definition and clarity due to compression. I buy all my music on CDs, import into iTunes (now Music) as WAV files (same file type as a CD), then synch with phone. I have hundreds of albums on my phone, all CD quality. I use wireless CarPlay and the sound is fantastic! If iPhone has an equalizer, I'm sure an Android phone would as well.

[maxvq35]

My Volvo S90 Inscription had the Bower and Wilkins. I was an SQ nut in the 90's and early 2000's doing custom builds builds in my rides...from custom kickpanels, squeezing 8" woofers in my front doors....using Seas, Rainbow Platinum, Dynaudio, Morel, Scanspeak raw drivers and custom amplification and DSP....silly looking back but glorious. That B&W on the Volvo is probably the best OEM system i've personally enjoyed from a sound quality POV, it felt like a properly designed and calibrated studio quality sound. The staging was spot on, real air and body to the vocals and instruments, the amplification stepped perfectly for the drivers dynamic abilities. Savageese also had great words and measurements on the B&W on the XC90. My wifes Aviator has a Revel audio system that also seems better integrated for the vehicle. You can really tell when when an audio system has been crafted and tuned around a space and lots of attention to detail has been made . My A6 just doesn't seem as nicely tuned a chamber.

But yeah....nothing like extreme disappointment when your very next car is a step backwards on the sound front. The B&O is not terrible , but it sure is underwhelming . Good thing i really like this car :/

[esdrs7]

I am the original poster. I appreciate all of these responses. I’ve now had my car for seven months and it’s my daily driver. I do love the car, but I still don’t understand why you cannot adjust the mid range in the stereo settings. Also, in my Genesis G90, if I played a high-quality music video from YouTube from my iPhone, it sounded wonderful. Also, regular FM radio and HD radio sounded very good. Not this car. I just don’t understand this Bang and Olufsen system. If I play a high quality music video from my phone from YouTube, it sounds like absolute crap. Muddy, low quality. And YES, I totally understand that YouTube isn’t the best for high quality sound, but that’s not my point. It sounds terrible on this stereo but sounded wonderful in my G90. FM radio quality also sucks in this car. I am not educated on amps, processors, or in-car stereo technology, but it’s as if the processor in this RS7 reduces the quality of the music, and I’ve never experienced that in any of my other vehicles. It’s bizarre. My other complaint is that the rear speakers simply do not pump out enough sound. Yes, I’ve messed with the balance and fader settings and the sound stage settings, but that’s also not my point. There are a lot of speakers in the rear, but you can barely hear any of them. In my G90, the rear speakers pumped out just as much sound as the front speakers and I loved that. I’m still VERY happy that I found out about the Spotify equalizer, so I now just listen to all of my music from Spotify and it sounds pretty darn good. But over all, this “Advanced” Bang and Olufsen sound system leaves much to be desired. And it’s unacceptable considering it’s a $5,000 up charge. I remember that the first US Audi vehicle to offer a Bang and Olufsen sound system was the 2007 Audi A8. Brian Cooley of CNET tested it on a 2008 Audi A8 L W12, and made what turned out to be a spot-on observation: generally, the Bang and Olufsen stereo doesn’t sound all that great, but if you feed it the right type of high quality music, it can sound great. It has the capability but you have to provide it the right type of high quality music format. Anyway, I still love the car, though!

[niteowl78]

I have a 2019 A6 with the B&O 3D system. Not sure what device the OP is using to play music in the car, but if it's an iPhone, the phone has a built in equalizer with manual and pre-formatted settings. I use that and the sound improvement is great! And yes, using Spotify or any streaming service looses definition and clarity due to compression. I buy all my music on CDs, import into iTunes (now Music) as WAV files (same file type as a CD), then synch with phone. I have hundreds of albums on my phone, all CD quality. I use wireless CarPlay and the sound is fantastic! If iPhone has an equalizer, I'm sure an Android phone would as well.

Where do you find the equalizer settings on the iPhone? I saw the preset, but I do not see manual settings. I have an iPhone X. thanks!

[Average_guy]

From Apple's website:
Choose an equalization (EQ) setting: Go to Settings > Music > EQ.

[Alta Audi]

I have a 2021 RS7 and care about the stereo. I have the base Bang&Olufsen, not the Advanced. Just bumping this thread to affirm some of what's been said and add to it:

1. Your source music matters. Sign up for the highest-quality streaming you can and be sure your settings in Spotify (or whatever) are set to max quality. You can Google this.

2. Set the Spotify EQ. I set mine to Pop, but you can experiment with what you like. Adds a lot of brightness and space in the midrange and treble.

3. Then I also turned up the subwoofer in the Audi sound settings.

4. Most of all, if you haven't noticed: You can crank the living shit out of the volume, and not only does the sound quality not break up, it gets *much better.* Like everything about the car, it wants to go to 11. I have wound up respecting this. This is not a Camry that's at its best when the going gets meh.

I tested the Advanced system in a 2021 A7, and was not convinced that it added as much value as it costs. Now that I've got these settings sorted, I'm happy. Hope this helps someone.

[dragbug]

FYI, G90 doesn't have wireless carplay. The RS7 does. If you are not hardwiring the Iphone to the RS7, you will get a noticeable sound quality difference. Wireless connection is certainly great but the sound volume and quality will be downgraded. That being said, the B&O system is a disappointment.

[Gunnarrrrr]

All the new Audi B&O systems are trash unfortunately. wayyy too much DSP going on with absolutely no way to adjust any of it. You can EQ your input source all you want but the built in compressor just flattens it out even more. The highest quality source you can get helps a little, but only so much.

I went ahead and replaced all 19 drivers in my Q with aftermarket ones and it brightened things up. A lot of work, but at least it sounds decent now. mostly hardware from peerless, aurum cantus, dayton, & kicker. the next step is honestly just bypassing the b&o amp entirely with some rather expensive hardware. few have even attempted it.


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[klimo]

Absolutely agree with this thread. The Audi B&O is terrible. The Porsche and Merc Burmeister's are so far above these it's not even funny. My wife's Volvo with the optioned up Bowers blows this out of the water as well. My older BMWs with the HK are still better than this.

[Jon111]

I have a '22 RS7 with the base B&O. As everyone has said, the system is pathetic. I replaced the front dash mid and tweeters as well as the front door mids and tweeters with Focals. The original speakers are complete and total garbage and probably cost about $2 each. Absolutely outrageous for a $100K + car. The front door woofers are actually pretty good as well as the stock subwoofer. Overall the improvement in sound quality is dramatic. I compared it against my wife's BMW with the Bavauto speakers and it actually is better. My biggest complaint at this point is the ridiculous amount of equalization at low volumes. I really don't need a built in "loudness" control. Once you turn up the volume the eq is reduced and it sounds quite good. It will not give you a lot of bass unless the source material contains it which is what a good system is supposed to do. Not something everyone likes but just my 2c.

[Gunnarrrrr]

You guys might want to check this out.

https://mqb-blog.com/en/2023/05/21/s...gs-editor-pt2/

https://github.com/Mr-MIBonk/M.I.B._...ncredible-Bash


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[dragbug]

You guys might want to check this out.

https://mqb-blog.com/en/2023/05/21/s...gs-editor-pt2/

https://github.com/Mr-MIBonk/M.I.B._...ncredible-Bash


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I have no idea what I am looking at.

[A4x]

I have no idea what I am looking at.

Looks like a way to flash the MMI software to allow for greater equalization control.

[engage]

You are correct. The B&O is not great. My brother's prior 2008 Lexus GS had the Mark Levinson stereo and it is the best I have heard in a car. My 1999 Olds Intrigue's stereo sounded better than my S4's B&O.

Make no mistake about it though, playing a CD vs. any other source is night and day difference on the B&O. Even ripping a CD to the hard drive through the B&O is considerably better than Spotify, Amazon Audio player, et al. Anymore, most people do not understand how much information/data is removed/compressed in MP3s vs. a a real CD.

Indeed. I have a 2021 A8 with the B&O Advanced. I copied all my burned CDs to a thumb drive and using an adapter plugged that into one of the car's four USB type C ports. I can play lossless (FLAC in my case) from there.

One should be able to copy looseless music to your phone and stream directly from it as an alternative.

[Gunnarrrrr]

apple music for iphone has lossless streaming. carplay over a lightning cable into the usb port, playing lossless, is the way to go.


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[gbkmweitzmantx]

My 2020 A5 B&o Soundsystem sounds 10 times better than my 2021 rs7 b&o Any idea why?

[sinister4]

Well picked up my 2025 RS6 avant with the B&O system, first off the surround and the dsp need to both be turned off and you for sure need to use nothing but FLAC uncompressed files. What it really needs is a 16 or 32 band EQ so I can adjust the thing, and a better sub as well. I mean its not "bad" but for sure its in no way a great system for the price of it. Kind of sad to see. It does play jazz and classical at a moderate level pretty well. I really expected it to be a great system, oh well.

After playing with it a lot with my REW and mic the flattest curve I could come up with was there settings (pink noise FLAC @84 db) treble +3 bass +3 Sub +5 fader back a bit, and what was kind of amazing the 3D set to medium. Any way it sounded much nicer on all my music and unless your using FLAC usb or the like your on your own lol

[PassionForAudi]

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[Paphguy]

This is really disappointing but I'm glad to have seen this before ordering it.
It seemed like it would be so freakin' cool!
Oh well....

[W_macintosh]

Old thread but stumbled upon this and thought it might be helpful. Didnt get a chance to test it myself since I found it today but looks promising. It looks like youll need to know how to use MIB (More Incredible Bash) which you can find on github by googling and $20 to activate the software/support the developer for the graphical interface but this allows you to access the EQ in the system. https://mqb-blog.com/en/2023/04/17/s...ttings-editor/