The Dynamic+ Sway Bar Kit for B9/9.5 Q5/SQ5 w/ OE Air is Now Available from 034!

[034Motorsport]

Hey Guys,

Just installed the Front/Rear Sway Bars.
I’m here to confirm that they DO fit B9/B9.5 SQ5’s without Air Suspension. (I’m running KW V3’s, car is sitting very low)

I know 034 initially hadn’t had the chance to check this out, so I took the initiative to making sure they fit. They do, perfectly.

I would not recommend using the stock end links, toss those in the trash. They will also make your install a pain in the butt. At least on regular suspension SQ5’s, it’s a lot of work to try to even make them fit the sway bar. Just don’t do it.
Purchase 034’s Adjustable Dymanic+ Front/Rear billet end links and pair those up with the sway bars for an easier install+even more of a handling upgrade.
I think the stock ones would probably snap too. They really belong in the trash.

About to take her out on a spin, can’t wait to feel the difference! I went with the stiff setting in the front and rear! Amazing build quality. Go 034!

PS. Can’t believe how trashy the stock sway bars are compared to 034’s.

Glad you were able to confirm fitment of the Sway Bars on your Non-Air SQ5!

-Sean@034

[kharma]

Would be very interested in rear only. No interest in doing the front. Even on this pig.

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[Druggedpolak]

Did my install today! 1.5 hrs for an ABT HAS lowered static suspension. Some tips/ways I did things:

1. If you don’t have a lift, and have low clearance, remove the driver’s side rear sway bushing with a flat screw driver. Gives you much more room to maneuver the stock sway bar out. If you want to put the bushing back on after the bar is out do the same thing backwards.
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2. Remove the old bar/install the new bar by moving it close to the exhaust hanger and then maneuvering it to get it out.
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3. I did not loosen the upper end link bolts in the back of the car at all. In the front I had to loosen the driver’s side upper end link bolt to have more freedom to align the lower bolts. All OEM end link hardware is 16mm.

4. The new bushings are not labeled on the bags they come in. The larger diameter ones are for the front.

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Took a short drive and man does it stay flat
Can’t wait to take it through some sharper turns.


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[Hostile]

Did my install today! 1.5 hrs for an ABT HAS lowered static suspension. Some tips/ways I did things:

1. If you don’t have a lift, and have low clearance, remove the driver’s side rear sway bushing with a flat screw driver. Gives you much more room to maneuver the stock sway bar out. If you want to put the bushing back on after the bar is out do the same thing backwards.
IMG_7681.jpgIMG_7682.jpg

2. Remove the old bar/install the new bar by moving it close to the exhaust hanger and then maneuvering it to get it out.
IMG_7686.jpg

3. I did not loosen the upper end link bolts in the back of the car at all. In the front I had to loosen the driver’s side upper end link bolt to have more freedom to align the lower bolts. All OEM end link hardware is 16mm.

4. The new bushings are not labeled on the bags they come in. The larger diameter ones are for the front.

IMG_7687.jpgIMG_7690.jpgIMG_7684.jpg

Took a short drive and man does it stay flat
Can’t wait to take it through some sharper turns.


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I was hoping to see feedback from someone that had the ABT HAS kit! The ABT springs already flattened the ride out quite a bit but it sounds like the sway bars still provide a dramatic improvement.

Did you go with the softer or stiffer swaybar holes?

[Druggedpolak]

I was hoping to see feedback from someone that had the ABT HAS kit! The ABT springs already flattened the ride out quite a bit but it sounds like the sway bars still provide a dramatic improvement.

Did you go with the softer or stiffer swaybar holes?

Full stiff front and back.
Need to get some more seat time then decide if it’s good or if I want to make the front less stiff. In my mkv gti I just had a big rear bar and loved how the understeer was corrected.


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[DiscoDan]

Did my install today! 1.5 hrs for an ABT HAS lowered static suspension. Some tips/ways I did things:

1. If you don’t have a lift, and have low clearance, remove the driver’s side rear sway bushing with a flat screw driver. Gives you much more room to maneuver the stock sway bar out. If you want to put the bushing back on after the bar is out do the same thing backwards.
IMG_7681.jpgIMG_7682.jpg

2. Remove the old bar/install the new bar by moving it close to the exhaust hanger and then maneuvering it to get it out.
IMG_7686.jpg

3. I did not loosen the upper end link bolts in the back of the car at all. In the front I had to loosen the driver’s side upper end link bolt to have more freedom to align the lower bolts. All OEM end link hardware is 16mm.

4. The new bushings are not labeled on the bags they come in. The larger diameter ones are for the front.

IMG_7687.jpgIMG_7690.jpgIMG_7684.jpg

Took a short drive and man does it stay flat
Can’t wait to take it through some sharper turns.


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Great news! Appreciate the tip on install sans lift.

I can raise with air and race ramps and get this done in the garage

[itsmatt33]

someone help me understand why I should go front and rear.

back in the day on my b6 I concluded that the stock setup resulted in massive understeer. So I solved that problem with a 034 rear sway bar. I know others also added an upgraded front sway bar but after having done the same, I felt like all the upgraded front sway bar did was cancel out the positive reduction in understeer so I took it right off. Car drove way better with just an upgraded rear sway bar.

Is that not also true here? can anyone confirm who has just installed a rear?

[034Motorsport]

someone help me understand why I should go front and rear.

back in the day on my b6 I concluded that the stock setup resulted in massive understeer. So I solved that problem with a 034 rear sway bar. I know others also added an upgraded front sway bar but after having done the same, I felt like all the upgraded front sway bar did was cancel out the positive reduction in understeer so I took it right off. Car drove way better with just an upgraded rear sway bar.

Is that not also true here? can anyone confirm who has just installed a rear?

Simply put, every platform is different.

When engineering and testing the sway bars for the SQ5, we went through several iterations, including sole-rear sway bar upgrades.

We found this combination of front and rear to be the best option for optimizing performance on your SQ5. I can assure you that these bars will transform your car and eliminate/reduce understeer.

-Sean@034

[itsmatt33]

Simply put, every platform is different.

When engineering and testing the sway bars for the SQ5, we went through several iterations, including sole-rear sway bar upgrades.

We found this combination of front and rear to be the best option for optimizing performance on your SQ5. I can assure you that these bars will transform your car and eliminate/reduce understeer.

-Sean@034

I should have been more specific/

Like the b6 the b9 sq5 suffers from massive understeer. A stiffer rear sway bar would help to eliminate understeer. a stiffer front sway bar would eliminate body roll but also could work against any cuts in understeer afforded by the rear sway bar. So what I am asking is does the front produce more harm than good? And I would love an answer from a fellow AZer who actually has experience with the two unless 034 can produce some actual technical data.



oh and I should mention I already have the 034 front strut. So all of that^^^ in combo with the front strut brace

[034Motorsport]

I should have been more specific/

Like the b6 the b9 sq5 suffers from massive understeer. A stiffer rear sway bar would help to eliminate understeer. a stiffer front sway bar would eliminate body roll but also could work against any cuts in understeer afforded by the rear sway bar. So what I am asking is does the front produce more harm than good? And I would love an answer from a fellow AZer who actually has experience with the two unless 034 can produce some actual technical data.

The B9 SQ5 with a rear upgrade alone resulted in very unstable and imprecise handling feel, creating a disconnected feeling between the front and rear of the car.

As Sean stated, all cars are different, and each chassis requires its own approach. This combination of Front and Rear bar keeps a specific balance between the front and rear, while still ensuring there is plentiful rotation. As you can see from the product page, the overall stiffness change of the rear (130-158% stiffer) is drastically more than the front (21.3%-39% stiffer), so a rearward bias is still being applied with this set of bars. We found that trying to attempt even 60% stiffer rear on a stock front bar was far too unstable and imprecise for handling, thus we spent over 2 years and 40k road miles dialing in the balance we were aiming for across various prototypes.

I myself am the owner of the SQ5 that was used for this development, and my feedback helped drive this development to a solid point of easily-rotateable while still balanced and precise in highly dynamic driving conditions (hell, I've taken the car on 3 race tracks now to find the limits). I can assure you that you'll love the improvement to overall rotation and handling, and the adjustability allows you to set it to your preferred balance.

-Nick@034

[034Motorsport]

I tested an upgraded rear bar only for a few variations (20% more, 60% more, 100% more, even more than that, and some spots in between) and regardless of the setup, body roll was still significant and the car was generally unsettled. It would bounce through corners and very easily snap around in a hard to control manner during those bounces. In some cases, it came around faster than most folks could ever catch under relatively normal driving (especially in the wet) which would be too dangerous, especially considering that SQ5s are generally a family car that is used for multiple purposes. If you were only doing AutoX this might be fine, but it is not something we are looking to provide.

For those reasons, we switched to a Front and Rear combination. Unlike other platforms and cars, a rear only upgrade simply did not suit this chassis well. WIth a front and rear bar paired together, stability and refinement is still retained while offering great handling dynamic and rotation (when you want it).

I would recommend trying the front bar at Soft and rear bar at Stiff, you won't be disappointed. If you want to go crazy you can always keep the stock front bar installed, but I really would not recommend this.

-Nick@034

Bumping this comment from earlier in the thread regarding why we developed a front and rear combination.

[itsmatt33]

The B9 SQ5 with a rear upgrade alone resulted in very unstable and imprecise handling feel, creating a disconnected feeling between the front and rear of the car.

As Sean stated, all cars are different, and each chassis requires its own approach. This combination of Front and Rear bar keeps a specific balance between the front and rear, while still ensuring there is plentiful rotation. As you can see from the product page, the overall stiffness change of the rear (130-158% stiffer) is drastically more than the front (21.3%-39% stiffer), so a rearward bias is still being applied with this set of bars. We found that trying to attempt even 60% stiffer rear on a stock front bar was far too unstable and imprecise for handling, thus we spent over 2 years and 40k road miles dialing in the balance we were aiming for across various prototypes.

I myself am the owner of the SQ5 that was used for this development, and my feedback helped drive this development to a solid point of easily-rotateable while still balanced and precise in highly dynamic driving conditions (hell, I've taken the car on 3 race tracks now to find the limits). I can assure you that you'll love the improvement to overall rotation and handling, and the adjustability allows you to set it to your preferred balance.

-Nick@034

Thank you Nick!

Also your 2 years of testing included that with the frotn strut brace right? does that mean the %s published above factor in the brace as well?

[034Motorsport]

Thank you Nick!

Also your 2 years of testing included that with the frotn strut brace right? does that mean the %s published above factor in the brace as well?

My testing was done with and without the strut brace. The brace primarily assists with improving steering feel/creating a more direct input of steering to the road but does not increase suspension stiffness of course. The percentages listed on the webpage are solely for increases in stiffness of the sway bars themselves over stock.

-Nick@034

[MoralMiscreant]

Edit: Nevermind. Just got an e-mail that it should ship tomorrow.

[B6_Dolphin]

Just installed the 034 Motorsports rear sway bar yesterday (stiffer setting) using my QuickJacks, and the matching front sway bar (softer setting) this afternoon using just Rhino Ramps.

As commented earlier, it took some eye-balling to figure out which frame mounts went to the front and to the rear, as they are not labelled. I appreciated the individual lube packets. I struggled with the front bar installation - with the driver's side of the bar connected to the lower left link, I finally rotated the bar as far forward as I could to make inserting the bolt for the passenger side lower right link possible, as the suspension otherwise gets in the way of fitting the bolt.

I also purchased the 034 End Links for both the front and rear. The Rear End Links appear to be on back-order. I received the Front End Links, however, the package was missing the main body of the link that the rod ends are threaded into. Looks like customer service will be getting a phone call tomorrow.

Even without the 034 End Links installed, I definitely could tell a difference in the handling and better control of body roll. No regrets on this upgrade.

[sandman00]

Just installed the 034 Motorsports rear sway bar yesterday (stiffer setting) using my QuickJacks, and the matching front sway bar (softer setting) this afternoon using just Rhino Ramps.

As commented earlier, it took some eye-balling to figure out which frame mounts went to the front and to the rear, as they are not labelled. I appreciated the individual lube packets. I struggled with the front bar installation - with the driver's side of the bar connected to the lower left link, I finally rotated the bar as far forward as I could to make inserting the bolt for the passenger side lower right link possible, as the suspension otherwise gets in the way of fitting the bolt.

I also purchased the 034 End Links for both the front and rear. The Rear End Links appear to be on back-order. I received the Front End Links, however, the package was missing the main body of the link that the rod ends are threaded into. Looks like customer service will be getting a phone call tomorrow.

Even without the 034 End Links installed, I definitely could tell a difference in the handling and better control of body roll. No regrets on this upgrade.

Thanks for the date on the install,
however good luck with that phone call to
034 Motorsports , they have by far the worst customer service. Still waiting on my bars and l placed my order the same day it was posted.
I have emailed them about multiple Orders I have and I get a one word response and then have to wait days to get a response from that reply. The worst, but the owner said we find that this is best way of communicating.
Parts in Stock my Ass


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[MoralMiscreant]

Still waiting on my bars and l placed my order the same day it was posted.

I ordered mine within half an hour of them announcing the sway bars on the forum and still haven't received mine. I'm in the same boat in that e-mailing customer support is a week long process that culminates in, "Should ship tomorrow" and then another round of e-mails a few days later when they don't ship. Pretty damn frustrated at this point. Especially seeing other people already have them in hand and installed. At the very least, I guess I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who ordered on release day that hasn't gotten them yet.

[Whycantidrive]

I'm in NY and it also took about 3 weeks to arrive. I had ordered the bars and end links at the time it was announced on their weekly Q&A. I had emailed them about a week or so later asking why it wasn't shipped yet and that they can ship the bars and end links separately since I knew the links were out of stock. About a week ish later I got the links.

[sandman00]

Sad

[sandman00]

I ordered mine within half an hour of them announcing the sway bars on the forum and still haven't received mine. I'm in the same boat in that e-mailing customer support is a week long process that culminates in, "Should ship tomorrow" and then another round of e-mails a few days later when they don't ship. Pretty damn frustrated at this point. Especially seeing other people already have them in hand and installed..

It’s sad that 034 Motorsports thinks that this E-mail ticket service is acceptable. Spending the time on Customer service should be their number priority, however it’s not. Their YouTube channel is. Dodging questions and having limited answers for questions asked is just not cutting it. Sorry 034 Motorsports your vision towards your Customers not adequate..


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[Newlyb]

All I can say all is, be patient. 034 is not immune to labor shortage and supply chain issues. They are putting out new hardware nearly every week so we can improve our vehicles. I too had a shipping mishap and they rectified the problem right away.


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[Hostile]

It’s sad that 034 Motorsports thinks that this E-mail ticket service is acceptable. Spending the time on Customer service should be their number priority, however it’s not. Their YouTube channel is. Dodging questions and having limited answers for questions asked is just not cutting it. Sorry 034 Motorsports your vision towards your Customers not adequate..


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The only time I’ve dealt with them for support they were pretty quick to respond but I’m sure it’s frustrating to spend a bunch of money on something and not get immediate responses.

That being said, at no point have they ever claimed their YouTube channel is for support requests. It’s a weekly, live Q&A session. Name one other vendor that takes an hour out their day every week to make themselves available like that for their customers. I feel like they are way more transparent than any other tuners out there.

[Mops@Nemesis]

I ordered mine within half an hour of them announcing the sway bars on the forum and still haven't received mine. I'm in the same boat in that e-mailing customer support is a week long process that culminates in, "Should ship tomorrow" and then another round of e-mails a few days later when they don't ship. Pretty damn frustrated at this point. Especially seeing other people already have them in hand and installed. At the very least, I guess I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who ordered on release day that hasn't gotten them yet.

PM me your order # and I'll see if I can get some detail for you 👍🏼

[sandman00]

The only time I’ve dealt with them for support they were pretty quick to respond but I’m sure it’s frustrating to spend a bunch of money on something and not get immediate responses.

That being said, at no point have they ever claimed their YouTube channel is for support requests. It’s a weekly, live Q&A session. Name one other vendor that takes an hour out their day every week to make themselves available like that for their customers. I feel like they are way more transparent than any other tuners out there.

That’s great that you got a Quick response.
I’m not the one who started talking about their customers service response, but yes I’m very frustrated with it. And I’m not the only who feels this way. They are very clear that the YouTube Q&A Session are not to be answering Requests or questions about orders but instead to contact Customer support, But it takes them about 3 or 4 days for them to respond!
As far the Tuning aspect, they are doing something that no other tuners are doing, but that’s not what we are talking about…

[AnewMadrid]

Maybe they need to add a shipping timeframe on the site, this way you can get an estimate of when to expect delivery.

[034Motorsport]

That’s great that you got a Quick response.
I’m not the one who started talking about their customers service response, but yes I’m very frustrated with it. And I’m not the only who feels this way. They are very clear that the YouTube Q&A Session are not to be answering Requests or questions about orders but instead to contact Customer support, But it takes them about 3 or 4 days for them to respond!
As far the Tuning aspect, they are doing something that no other tuners are doing, but that’s not what we are talking about…

We would like to offer our sincerest apologies for not getting your order shipped out sooner. I am working with our Customer Service Manager and Shipping Department to determine why this order took as long as it did. Please know that we're working as quickly as possible to fulfill all customers orders. Your overall experience is very important to us. Someone from our Customer Service Department will contact you shortly.

That said, your Sway Bars have shipped out and look to be arriving this Saturday.

-Sean@034

[sandman00]

-Sean@034

Thank you, I appreciate 034 Motorsports development Team. Creating sick ass hardware and Performance Tune’s achieving Better Performance And Handling out of these cars than the factory Ever imagine.

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[Mops@Nemesis]

FYI guys - I have confirmed 034 has 11 kits in stock. Hit me up to place your order.

[justwantv]

Sorry to bump such an old thread but it seemed like the best place to put it. Any feedback on ride quality from those who have installed the kit? I completely understand on flat smooth roads there shouldn't be any difference but what about other roads? Every car I've ever owned I've gone way way to far and while they always end up awesome to drive the ride always sucks. I wanna keep this one nice. Use case is city and freeways to work at mach speed like I'm in a police chase.

[MoralMiscreant]

Sorry to bump such an old thread but it seemed like the best place to put it. Any feedback on ride quality from those who have installed the kit? I completely understand on flat smooth roads there shouldn't be any difference but what about other roads? Every car I've ever owned I've gone way way to far and while they always end up awesome to drive the ride always sucks. I wanna keep this one nice. Use case is city and freeways to work at mach speed like I'm in a police chase.

I've had mine on since shortly after they came out and don't have a single complaint about the sways + end links. I have them on the stiffest setting all around and it's still perfectly tame as a daily driver. If your daily driving can be described as "spirited", you will absolutely love them.

[userbbc]

picked up the swaybar and endlink bundle but unsure about the parts.
Can someone confirm the endlink rod end part numbers?
For the front end links I received
402-z031 + 402-z024

for the rear end links I received
402-z041

The instructions reference 402-z025 for the fronts so unsure if I received the correct parts.
Haven't taken them out of the bag but they also look a little different - having a black cap covering the screws.

Any help would be appreciated! finally found time to install but now unsure I received the correct parts

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[034Motorsport]

picked up the swaybar and endlink bundle but unsure about the parts.
Can someone confirm the endlink rod end part numbers?
For the front end links I received
402-z031 + 402-z024

for the rear end links I received
402-z041

The instructions reference 402-z025 for the fronts so unsure if I received the correct parts.
Haven't taken them out of the bag but they also look a little different - having a black cap covering the screws.

Any help would be appreciated! finally found time to install but now unsure I received the correct parts

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What you received is correct. Feel free to email [email protected] for further questions.

The black caps are protective for shipping to protect the rubber joint.

-Sean@034

[userbbc]

phew! thanks for the quick response!

[S_Audi_Man]

Hey Guys,

Just installed the Front/Rear Sway Bars.
I’m here to confirm that they DO fit B9/B9.5 SQ5’s without Air Suspension. (I’m running KW V3’s, car is sitting very low)

I know 034 initially hadn’t had the chance to check this out, so I took the initiative to making sure they fit. They do, perfectly.

I would not recommend using the stock end links, toss those in the trash. They will also make your install a pain in the butt. At least on regular suspension SQ5’s, it’s a lot of work to try to even make them fit the sway bar. Just don’t do it.
Purchase 034’s Adjustable Dymanic+ Front/Rear billet end links and pair those up with the sway bars for an easier install+even more of a handling upgrade.
I think the stock ones would probably snap too. They really belong in the trash.

About to take her out on a spin, can’t wait to feel the difference! I went with the stiff setting in the front and rear! Amazing build quality. Go 034!

PS. Can’t believe how trashy the stock sway bars are compared to 034’s.

I just left EP3 Motorsports in Saint Charles, IL. who installed my 034 swaybars/end links and man what a difference! I too chose the stiff setting and wouldn't consider going softer. This is a must have upgrade. I also had lowering links installed and am very happy with the look and feel of the car. I am considering installing either the CTS or 034 strut tower brace. Has anyone out there upgraded their swaybars/endlinks and strut tower brace with any input to share? Thanks!

[034Motorsport]

I just left EP3 Motorsports in Saint Charles, IL. who installed my 034 swaybars/end links and man what a difference! I too chose the stiff setting and wouldn't consider going softer. This is a must have upgrade. I also had lowering links installed and am very happy with the look and feel of the car. I am considering installing either the CTS or 034 strut tower brace. Has anyone out there upgraded their swaybars/endlinks and strut tower brace with any input to share? Thanks!

I'm glad to hear you're enjoying our sway bar and end links, they're definitely a game changer. Our Billet Front Strut Brace is a great piece to have, as it substantially limits the lateral deflection of the front strut towers, resulting in much more responsive and precise steering, and would complement the upgraded sway bars nicely.

-Justin@034

[S_Audi_Man]

I'm glad to hear you're enjoying our sway bar and end links, they're definitely a game changer. Our Billet Front Strut Brace is a great piece to have, as it substantially limits the lateral deflection of the front strut towers, resulting in much more responsive and precise steering, and would complement the upgraded sway bars nicely.

-Justin@034

Thanks for the quick response and input, Justin! It would be great if you guys could test and quantify "stiffness" improvement over the stock strut tower brace with regards to deflection hinderance provided by your strut tower brace. It would definitely help those out there who are on the fence in justifying this upgrade/investment. For example your video/images of the sway bay upgrade of an SQ5 going through a corner definitely helped in visualizing and justifying my purchase of the swaybars/endlinks.

[034Motorsport]

Thanks for the quick response and input, Justin! It would be great if you guys could test and quantify "stiffness" improvement over the stock strut tower brace with regards to deflection hinderance provided by your strut tower brace. It would definitely help those out there who are on the fence in justifying this upgrade/investment. For example your video/images of the sway bay upgrade of an SQ5 going through a corner definitely helped in visualizing and justifying my purchase of the swaybars/endlinks.

With something like our Billet Front Strut Brace, it would be tough to visually showcase the improvements it offers. But upon installation, it's easily recognizable as dashboard creaks are significantly minimized.

-Justin@034

[VPRFXR]

Finally was able to install the front and rear kit with links this weekend, and WOW! Coming from a Mk7 GTI, I had missed the nimbleness and ability to feel what the car is doing, but this kit completely made me fall in love with my SQ5 again. I went with Sean's recommendation of soft front, firm rear and it feels great (also have a front strut bar). Last, and just for info...I was able to remove and install the rear bar without lower the exhaust, granted I have a rear resonator delete, so I'm sure that helped, but just incase someone runs across the info down the line, it is doable.

[n0rbski]

Finally was able to install the front and rear kit with links this weekend, and WOW! Coming from a Mk7 GTI, I had missed the nimbleness and ability to feel what the car is doing, but this kit completely made me fall in love with my SQ5 again. I went with Sean's recommendation of soft front, firm rear and it feels great (also have a front strut bar). Last, and just for info...I was able to remove and install the rear bar without lower the exhaust, granted I have a rear resonator delete, so I'm sure that helped, but just incase someone runs across the info down the line, it is doable.

Did you find the front links to be a bit close to the knuckle? I'm working on mine right now and the links are almost resting on it.

[VPRFXR]

Did you find the front links to be a bit close to the knuckle? I'm working on mine right now and the links are almost resting on it.

Oh yeah, very close. I went back a week later to check torque on the hardware and it wasn't touching. I'm going to keep an eye on it.