Anyone run a 265-35-19 tire on OEM 19x8.5 rim?

[Bamaguy]

I have used several fitment links online, but when I shop tires, I notice there is a bit of a variety of actual tread and section widths in tires this size. Anyone run that size on the stock 19x8.5" rim? I have a 2012 Prestige.

[Smac770]

You should consider if the manufacturer even states the combination as safe.
Take the Michelin PS4S as an example, the 265/35r19 is specified only for use on 9.0 - 10.5 rim widths.
While if we look at the stock tire size, 255/35r19, it is specified for use on 8.5 - 10.0 rim widths.
That size range might vary by tire brand/model for a given size as well, so you need to check the specification of the specific tire you're using.

[Slvrbul8]

No reason to do this unless proper tire sizes are not an option. The car is not going to handle any better using a wheel that's too narrow for the tire. The ideal wheel width for 265/35/19 is 9.5in.

[Bamaguy]

I would like a larger footprint on the road for handling, and I'd like to get a 9.5" wheel, but honestly, it's such a dizzying endeavor to try to select just the right wheel from the hundreds of styles and price points with just the right offset. I have just installed lowering springs and I probably need to wait to put a few hundred miles on them before I decide on anything anyway.

[sepheroth86]

I am running a 285/30/21 on factory RS7 (9" wide iirc) wheel.

The A7's run a 265 on an 8.5" wide wheel, I believe.

[Slvrbul8]

I am running a 285/30/21 on factory RS7 (9" wide iirc) wheel.

The A7's run a 265 on an 8.5" wide wheel, I believe.

285/30/21 tire should use a minimum 9.5" wide wheel and 10" is the ideal wheel width.

The A7's run a 265/35/20 using a 20x9 wheel.

Don't pay attention to just the tire width thinking your going to get better road handling. Every tire size has an ideal rim width, the further you stray from it, the more your handling is suffer.

[sepheroth86]

285/30/21 tire should use a minimum 9.5" wide wheel and 10" is the ideal wheel width.

The A7's run a 265/35/20 using a 20x9 wheel.

Don't pay attention to just the tire width thinking your going to get better road handling. Every tire size has an ideal rim width, the further you stray from it, the more your handling is suffer.

Then the RS7 wheels must be 9.5" wide. Factory tire size is 275/30/21, I went a touch wider to help protect the wheels from our terrible Michigan roads.

[2by2handsofblue]

I have a b8.5 s5. The wheel size is 19x9. I just out new shoes on it with 265. Oem is 255.
Maybe 265 on a 8.5 might be stretching a bit much.
Whats the oem size for a s4? 245? If so I wouldn't go wider than 255

we are the borg! resistance is futile.

[2by2handsofblue]

285/30/21 tire should use a minimum 9.5" wide wheel and 10" is the ideal wheel width.

The A7's run a 265/35/20 using a 20x9 wheel.

Don't pay attention to just the tire width thinking your going to get better road handling. Every tire size has an ideal rim width, the further you stray from it, the more your handling is suffer.

A b8.5 rs5, are they 9? I think they use 265 oem?

we are the borg! resistance is futile.

[Slvrbul8]

Oem S4 is 19x8.5 255/35/19.

265/35 is fine on a 9 inch wheel.

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[Smac770]

B8 and C7 RS both have x9.0 rims for the 265 and 275 tires.

vehicle	OE tire	OE wheel	width range
B8 RS	265/35r19	19x9.0	9.0-10.5
B8 RS	265/30r20	20x9.0	9.0-10.0
B8 RS	275/30r20	20x9.0	9.0-10.0
B9 RS	265/35r19	19x9.0	9.0-10.5
B9 RS	275/30r20	20x9.0	9.0-10.0
C7 RS	275/35r20	20x9.0	9.0-11.0
C7 RS	275/30r21	21x9.0	9.0-10.0
C8 RS	275/35r21	21x10.5	9.0-11.0
C8 RS	285/30r22	22x10.5	9.5-10.5

Using PS4S as a reference, I put it's allowed rim width range for that tire size at the end of each line above in (). The /30 tires have a much narrower supported range than the /35 tires, expected given the shorter sidewall.

I can't find any way to visualize the table with any manner of organization or grouping with this forum's bbcode support. So it is what it is.

[Bamaguy]

I occasionally see the word "squared" used in reference to a set of wheels. I have to admit, I'm not sure what that means.

Otherwise, so 265s are out for 8.5" wheels. I really want the larger footprint, so I am going to have to go through the process of shopping for wheels.

[Smac770]

I believe a square setup just means same wheels/tires on each corner, vs. a staggered setup with different wheels/tires for front and rear. Audi officially only supports same wheels/tires all around for quattro.

Do note the first number in the tire size spec is section width, across the fat part of the tire, typically mid sidewall. Not the tread width. Tread width can vary from tire model to tire model of the same "tire size". I'd be more concerned for a better traction tire than simply a blanket wider tire (unless you already have the tire you really like).

[sepheroth86]

I would think that a 265 should be able to be put on an 8.5 wheel as they are only 10mm wider than the standard 255.

[Smac770]

I would think that a 265 should be able to be put on an 8.5 wheel as they are only 10mm wider than the standard 255.

By that logic, any tire should fit an 8.5 wheel, as they are only XXmm wider than the standard 255. At some point, the tire is wider than 8.5 supports. And that limit seems to be the jump from 255 to 265. Even the 265/40r19 shows 9.0-10.5. But if you want to go 265/50r19, then it's 7.5-9.5.

[ALAN12186]

I RUN 265/35/19 ON A 19X9.5 ET 29 NO ISSUES (YOU'LL NEED NEGATIVE CHAMBER TO NOT RUB OVER BUMPS)

[sepheroth86]

By that logic, any tire should fit an 8.5 wheel, as they are only XXmm wider than the standard 255. At some point, the tire is wider than 8.5 supports. And that limit seems to be the jump from 255 to 265. Even the 265/40r19 shows 9.0-10.5. But if you want to go 265/50r19, then it's 7.5-9.5.

Audi uses a 255 on the 8.5" wheel.

Audi also uses a 275 on a 9" wheel (according to your chart).

I currently have 285 on my factory RS7 wheels (9" wide, came with 275).

While there may be a difference in performance on a track, etc. There have been zero negative effects in normal driving.

[Bamaguy]

I believe a square setup just means same wheels/tires on each corner, vs. a staggered setup with different wheels/tires for front and rear. Audi officially only supports same wheels/tires all around for quattro.

Do note the first number in the tire size spec is section width, across the fat part of the tire, typically mid sidewall. Not the tread width. Tread width can vary from tire model to tire model of the same "tire size". I'd be more concerned for a better traction tire than simply a blanket wider tire (unless you already have the tire you really like).

Yeah, thankfully, Tire Rack has really good data. It's amazing how much difference there is in section width and tread width among tires that are technically the same size but made by different manufacturers. They also have excellent performance data and reviews. Right now on my short list the Michelin PS4S is leading the pack even though they are expensive. I am also looking at the Bridgestone Potenza Sport (but there's not much actual performance data on those) and the Yokohama Advan.

[Slvrbul8]

The PS4's are the current benchmark performance tire. Get those if you can. I tried a bunch of other's over the years trying to save some money, but nothing ever compared to whatever Michelin's flagship performance tire was at the time.

More things to consider: If you get different wheels and use 265-35/19 tires, you are changing the overall diameter of the tire from the factory spec, so your speedo will no longer be accurate and they are 3lbs heavier per tire. IMO, your best option is to stick with oem tire size (255/35/19) and find a 19x9 wheel you like. Then you will have the ideal tire size for a 19x9 wheel and you will gain 1/2in more width from the wider wheel. Cost: If you go to a 9.5in wheel, the 265/35/19 tire is the ideal size, BUT the Michelin PS4's in 265/35/19 are $80 more a piece than the 255/35/19! So you will have wider/heavier wheels, $320 more per set and your speedo will be incorrect. Not worth the extra 10mm.

[Smac770]

PS5 has come out, replacing PS4. But the sport (PS4S) and all weather (PS4AS) variants are still gen 4. Who knows when the gen 5 versions of those will come. Looks like the US site doesn't have PS5 yet, and no longer has PS4. I've come to like Tyre Reviews channel on youtube as well.

[SpeedyG]

On my 2014 S4 / B8.5, I am running 265/35-19 Michelin Pilot Sport 4S on stock Rotors off of a B9 S4 and before that I was running that size on my stock Peelers. When I had the stock Peelers I had ECS tuning 8mm front wheel spacers and 12.5mm in the rear.

When I installed the Rotors around a month ago, I took off the front spacers because it rubbed a little too much for my tastes and I moved the 8mm spacers to the rear. I think the Rotors off of the B9 S4 are a different offset because they rub a little more than when I had these tires on my Peeler wheels. I am most likely going to remove the 8mm spacers off of the rear wheels as well to get less rubbing. I like more width as well as it looks great. I also read about wheel width but typically you can go plus one on oversize tire safely.

I understand about wheel width and tire width recommendations and it is imperative to stay safe, so go with what you are comfortable with Most recommend 9 inch wide wheels though on 265 tires. FYI I have taken my S4 up to 140mph with this set up and no problems

[OliNix]

I occasionally see the word "squared" used in reference to a set of wheels. I have to admit, I'm not sure what that means.

Otherwise, so 265s are out for 8.5" wheels. I really want the larger footprint, so I am going to have to go through the process of shopping for wheels.

Squared means the same size & width wheel on the front and the back.

Staggered means a wider wheel on the rear.

Mullet can mean either a smaller/larger diameter front to rear.

All Audis run a squared setup. If you go staggered, you have to be very careful to keep the rolling radii the same or you will kill the centre diff.


If you want 265s so bad and like your current look, just get the S5 equivalent of your current wheels, they are 9” wide instead of 8.5” and have an offset of ET33 instead of ET43 (ET0 means the mating face to the hub is in the centre of the wheel width), which puts them 10mm further outboard (keeping the inside edge of the wheel in roughly the same place, and giving you ~15mm wider stance)

[sepheroth86]

Squared means the same size & width wheel on the front and the back.

Staggered means a wider wheel on the rear.

Mullet can mean either a smaller/larger diameter front to rear.

All Audis run a squared setup. If you go staggered, you have to be very careful to keep the rolling radii the same or you will kill the centre diff.


If you want 265s so bad and like your current look, just get the S5 equivalent of your current wheels, they are 9” wide instead of 8.5” and have an offset of ET33 instead of ET43 (ET0 means the mating face to the hub is in the centre of the wheel width), which puts them 10mm further outboard (keeping the inside edge of the wheel in roughly the same place, and giving you ~15mm wider stance)

I think the R8 uses a staggered wheel setup.

[2by2handsofblue]

Squared means the same size & width wheel on the front and the back.

Staggered means a wider wheel on the rear.

Mullet can mean either a smaller/larger diameter front to rear.

All Audis run a squared setup. If you go staggered, you have to be very careful to keep the rolling radii the same or you will kill the centre diff.


If you want 265s so bad and like your current look, just get the S5 equivalent of your current wheels, they are 9” wide instead of 8.5” and have an offset of ET33 instead of ET43 (ET0 means the mating face to the hub is in the centre of the wheel width), which puts them 10mm further outboard (keeping the inside edge of the wheel in roughly the same place, and giving you ~15mm wider stance)

The r8 is different compare to other audis. Definitely staggered.

we are the borg! resistance is futile.

[OliNix]

Ok 95% of Audis use a squared setup then! The R8 is the only one I know that doesn’t… it is also the only only that uses a questionable R-Tronic gearbox aswell…


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[Smac770]

The R8 is a separate world from the other Audi products, which basically split into two groups: VW Audis (A3/TT/Q3) and real Audis (A4 through Q8). Guess e-tron is making a third general group these days.

The R-tronic was only during the original R8. That it's the same transmission type as the 6MT really says something about how much it was just an electronically actuated 6MT.
The R8 has always run a staggered setup, though always the same wheel diameter front/rear.
For US R8s:

2008-2012, Mk1 (type 42)
6MT (type 086) or 6SCT (R-tronic, type 086)
18x8.5+18x10.5 or 19x8.5+19x11.0

2013-2015, Mk1 (type 42) facelift
6MT (type 086) or 7DCT (S-tronic, type 0BZ)
18x8.5+18x10.5 or 19x8.5+19x11.0

2016-2018, Mk2 (type 4S)
only 7DCT (S-tronic, type 0BZ)
19x8.5+19x11.0 or 20x8.5+20x11.0

2019-2022, Mk2 (type 4S) facelift
only 7DCT (S-tronic, type 0BZ)
19x8.5+19x11.0 or 20x8.5+20x11.0

[TITAN738]

B8 and C7 RS both have x9.0 rims for the 265 and 275 tires.

vehicle	OE tire	OE wheel	width range
B8 RS	265/35r19	19x9.0	9.0-10.5
B8 RS	265/30r20	20x9.0	9.0-10.0
B8 RS	275/30r20	20x9.0	9.0-10.0
B9 RS	265/35r19	19x9.0	9.0-10.5
B9 RS	275/30r20	20x9.0	9.0-10.0
C7 RS	275/35r20	20x9.0	9.0-11.0
C7 RS	275/30r21	21x9.0	9.0-10.0
C8 RS	275/35r21	21x10.5	9.0-11.0
C8 RS	285/30r22	22x10.5	9.5-10.5

Using PS4S as a reference, I put it's allowed rim width range for that tire size at the end of each line above in (). The /30 tires have a much narrower supported range than the /35 tires, expected given the shorter sidewall.

I can't find any way to visualize the table with any manner of organization or grouping with this forum's bbcode support. So it is what it is.

The sizes for the B8 are for the RS5 and RS4 Avant models which came with either 19" or 20" wheels depending on the options you got with it. B8 S4's with the 19" wheels are all 8.5" wide.

[Smac770]

The sizes for the B8 are for the RS5 and RS4 Avant models which came with either 19" or 20" wheels depending on the options you got with it. B8 S4's with the 19" wheels are all 8.5" wide.

Relevance? The B8 S models ran 255/35r19 tires, not 265 tires.