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    Misfire Cylinder 6 (P0306 & P130A)

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    This is a continuation of this thread.
    I thought it was best to start a clean one, with all facts.

    Haven't had the issue for a long time, but now it's back.

    I hope, some one can point me in the right direction


    When?
    I believe that the lack of adaptation plays a role, as the issue comes after flashing the car.

    I have observed the issue on both stock ECU tune and EPL stage 2.
    The issue was there when the car was single pulley and now that it's dual pulley.

    Manual downshift followed by light/medium acceleration is where it usually happens.
    The issue seems to be triggered at mid range rpm (3300 - 4200) and part throttle.


    Parts shuffling
    I have moved injectors, plugs and coil packs around multiple times.
    Misfire never occurred on any other cylinder than #6


    Coolant leak
    I never found evidence of IC leaking from supercharger or level dropping.
    New ICs have now been installed in the supercharger
    New gaskets everywhere (IC, SC, injectors) and new PCV.


    Plugs
    The plugs never looked hot or fouled.
    New NGK PFR8S8EG gapped down to .026 installed multiple times.


    Compression
    #1 182
    #2 179
    #3 188
    #4 182
    #5 182
    #6 184


    Carbon buildup
    Car has just been walnut blasted, clean as a whistle.


    Exhaust and cats
    Stock cats, 2.5" downpipes without baby resonators
    Cat cores looked ok on a borescope, but I believe it's hard to tell (angle/image quality...)
    Car just cleared MOT where the exhaust fumes are analyzed (NOx, CO, HC, CO2, O2).


    Filters
    New air filter and fuel filter (and LPFP)



    Code:
    6355 - Cylinder 6 
              P0306 00 [096] - Misfire Detected
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 190753 km
                        Date: 2022.04.20
                        Time: 19:48:47
    
                        Engine RPM: 3808.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 25.1 %
                        Vehicle speed: 32 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 102 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 49 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 13.609 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine speed: actual: 3840 /min
                        MAF_ENVD: 315.92940 mg/stroke
                        Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 102.75 °C
                        Engine: operating status: PL
                        T_AST_ENVD: 77.10 s
                        Vehicle speed: actual: 32 km/h
    
    
    
    7948 - Cylinder Disabling 
              P130A 00 [096] - -
              Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
                 Freeze Frame:
                        Fault Status: 00000001
                        Fault Priority: 2
                        Fault Frequency: 1
                        Mileage: 190753 km
                        Date: 2022.04.20
                        Time: 19:48:47
    
                        Engine RPM: 4032.00 /min
                        Normed load value: 39.2 %
                        Vehicle speed: 34 km/h
                        Coolant temperature: 102 °C
                        Intake air temperature: 49 °C
                        Ambient air pressure: 1010 mbar
                        Voltage terminal 30: 13.710 V
                        Unlearning counter according OBD: 40
                        Engine speed: actual: 128 /min
                        MAF_ENVD: 0.00000 mg/stroke
                        Coolant temperature (unfiltered): 101.25 °C
                        Engine: operating status: ST
                        T_AST_ENVD: 0.00 s
                        Vehicle speed: actual: 0 km/h
    Last edited by fuzk; 04-22-2022 at 06:34 AM.

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    This is baffling. You seem to have excluded all the "usual suspects". Maybe its the coil pack wiring harness or plug socket, since it stays with #6 no matter what else you do. Check carefully. Since the harness is covered, I don't know how to check for continuity ot shorts. Maybe a wire to the ECU is frayed or scraped?

    Another thing: I'm assuming you are not using octane boost. That definitely caused the very same problem for me, including cylinder disabling until I turned it off and restarted the engine. The MMT in it coats the center electrode and interferes with spark. For me it always occurred first on cylinder #6 for some reason. Changed plugs, stopped using it, problem went away.
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    Established Member Two Rings markD76's Avatar
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    How are your valve cover gaskets? In good condition? No leaks?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MSq5 View Post
    This is baffling. You seem to have excluded all the "usual suspects". Maybe its the coil pack wiring harness or plug socket, since it stays with #6 no matter what else you do. Check carefully. Since the harness is covered, I don't know how to check for continuity ot shorts. Maybe a wire to the ECU is frayed or scraped?

    Another thing: I'm assuming you are not using octane boost.
    I'm not completely sure that the cats have been excluded but they do seem to be doing their job cleaning the gases.
    You are right, wires at the cylinder could be the culprit. They look fine, but I don't know how to measure it.

    No, never used octane booster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by markD76 View Post
    How are your valve cover gaskets? In good condition? No leaks?
    Zero oil leaks from valve covers (or anywhere else).

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    Veteran Member Four Rings dalmation53's Avatar
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    last time i had a misfire on cylinder #6 caused me an entire engine. please buy a cheap borescope on harbor freight and check your cylinder walls. my car still ran and drove with scored walls.
    Ivan

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmation53 View Post
    last time i had a misfire on cylinder #6 caused me an entire engine. please buy a cheap borescope on harbor freight and check your cylinder walls. my car still ran and drove with scored walls.
    Sorry to hear about your bad luck.
    My compression is good so I don't think I'm having the same issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fuzk View Post
    Sorry to hear about your bad luck.
    My compression is good so I don't think I'm having the same issue?
    Facts bro. It hurt my wallet but atleast I have my car back lol. Hmmm doesn't hurt to check man. But up to you.
    Ivan

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmation53 View Post
    last time i had a misfire on cylinder #6 caused me an entire engine. please buy a cheap borescope on harbor freight and check your cylinder walls. my car still ran and drove with scored walls.
    Not to derail the thread, but what caused the scored walls? And only on cyl 6?
    2017 Q5 3.0T S-Line | Brilliant Black | 034 Stage 2+dual pulley 93 octane tune | JHM 187mm crank pulley w/ EPL 57.6mm s/c pulley - 3.247 total ratio | Red Star shielded test pipes | Magnaflow high flow downstream ceramic core bottle cats | Vibrant Ultra Quiet Resos in place of OEM baby resos | aFe Pro 5R (part#10-10121) filter in "modified" stock air box | 034 silicone throttle body hose | HP Tuners custom TCU tuned ZF8 | Merc Racing HX | Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ 255/45/20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSq5 View Post
    Not to derail the thread, but what caused the scored walls? And only on cyl 6?
    i havent taken apart yet. i don't know
    Ivan

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    I had intermittent misfire on 2.0 aready but still good compression. One car the wiring harness was corroded at the ecu and the other car the intake cam rocker bearing on the roller was bad on the problem cylinder

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    Was there ever any update to this? I'm experiencing the same thing and have already ran through a long list of maintenance items.

    New Plugs, coilpacks, injectors, and O2 sensors, compression test... ran fine and had it on the dyno for logging with nothing out of the ordinary after that work was done in May, then the same code/misfire popped up the other day at low rpm.

    I'm catless, so i know a clogged one isn't the issue.
    2016 A6 / 3.0T | APR Stage 2+ DP, TB, Intercooler | P3U TCU | W/M injection | Jokerz Port | AWE Intake/Exhaust | JHM Downpipes/Race Cats | H&R Springs | Ferrada FR8 on Michelin PS4s | StopTech Brakes | 034 Mounts | and way too many other things…

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    Damn, that’s 2 people this week with single cylinder misfires that can’t be remedied who are running APR Stage 2 flashes. 🤔

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    Adding an update/solution to my issue - not the OP… it was a cracked intercooler in the supercharger leaking coolant into cylinder 6. It must’ve started as a very slight trickle causing the random misfires and took time to get progressively worse and more visible/identifiable.
    2016 A6 / 3.0T | APR Stage 2+ DP, TB, Intercooler | P3U TCU | W/M injection | Jokerz Port | AWE Intake/Exhaust | JHM Downpipes/Race Cats | H&R Springs | Ferrada FR8 on Michelin PS4s | StopTech Brakes | 034 Mounts | and way too many other things…

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