$3,150 Out the door for clutch replacement?? Seems high!

[ShootingBrakeS4]

Elite motorsports in Lindenhurst wants to charge me 3,150 to replace the clutch/pressure plate/throwout bearing. Addition 900 for flywheel. 4K seems very high.

The clutch is a bit old and needs replacement but I brought it in because the pedal
Feels a little different and it grinds a little
Going into first gear. All other gears shift but not great, feels like the pressure plate is not releasing fully due to mechanical failure in the clutch system. I had the slave cylinder and clutch lines replaced recently and there are no leaks which leads me to believe the clutch components are just old and need replacement.

Cars has 150k

What do ya’ll think about the price and diagnosis?

[VinnysS4]

You can get an OEM clutch for $150 and an OEM flywheel for like 500. Labor at my shop is only 4 hours. A full clutch change with new fluid and flywheel should not cost more $1000 in my opinion

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[ShootingBrakeS4]

Thanks vinny, you confirmed my suspicions. This particular shop works on high end as well. When I picked up the car, they had a lambo, McLaren and Bentley in the bays next to me.

[VinnysS4]

If they quote book time and charge like $250an hour, and give a markup on parts from the dealer, then yeah I could see a quote that high. But the clutch job is super easy and can be done in just a couple hours with a lift. I've done it many many times with a Jack and Jack stands in 2 to 3 hours. With my Airlift vacuum bleeder, bleeding the clutch takes about 5 minutes. 4 minutes of that is waiting for my air compressor to fill.

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[Kambesama]

If they quote book time and charge like $250an hour, and give a markup on parts from the dealer, then yeah I could see a quote that high. But the clutch job is super easy and can be done in just a couple hours with a lift. I've done it many many times with a Jack and Jack stands in 2 to 3 hours. With my Airlift vacuum bleeder, bleeding the clutch takes about 5 minutes. 4 minutes of that is waiting for my air compressor to fill.

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Book time according to Mitchell shows 9.4 Hrs. If they are about $250/hr that's $2375 (lets say $2400) in labor. Worldpac indicates "LIST" price of $1644 for the FW (LUK) and $628 for the clutch kit (LUK) total parts and labor coming to $4650 before tax. You probably don't need the FW unless there's heavy scoring or heat marks. Clutch Kit I'm sure you can get it yourself for cheaper.

[VinnysS4]

Exactly. Highway robbery in my opinion. 4-5 hours is being generous if you know what you're doing and have a lift. You can do it faster as well.... but 9 hours is if you take long naps in between wrenching lol. And a LUK oem flywheel costs 488.79 and LUK oem clutch kit costs 165.79 at rockauto. I know that's not where most shops would get the parts from or parts list cost, but it shows the markup over what the same exact parts cost

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[RPMtech147]

You can get an OEM clutch for $150 and an OEM flywheel for like 500. Labor at my shop is only 4 hours. A full clutch change with new fluid and flywheel should not cost more $1000 in my opinion

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I'm not saying it can't be done in 4 hours...But I am saying warranty time is 9.4 and customer pay is 13.5, not including replacing the flywheel or doing an RMS. Why would you only charge 4 hours? And you spend 0 minutes bleeding the slave if you just don't unhook it and move it to the side after you unbolt it. Don't sell yourself your short.

13.5 X $150/hr + Parts...OP's quote is in the ballpark. (Maybe a little on the light side)

[VinnysS4]

I'm not saying it can't be done in 4 hours...But I am saying warranty time is 9.4 and customer pay is 13.5, not including replacing the flywheel or doing an RMS. Why would you only charge 4 hours? And you spend 0 minutes bleeding the slave if you just don't unhook it and move it to the side after you unbolt it. Don't sell yourself your short.

13.5 X $150/hr + Parts...OP's quote is in the ballpark. (Maybe a little on the light side)

Why would someone pay 13.5 hrs for a 9.4 hr job?
Book time is book time and some shops abide by that and make extra money charging book time while doing the job in much less time. Im an honest business owner and I charge respectively. If I have a job that books for 8 hours and it only takes 4. I charge for 4 hours. If the job requires extra, I charge extra. I don't just charge what some monkey behind a computer thinks it should cost. Especially when the job can be done for an honest 4 hours of work. WITH swapping the RMS and flywheel.

And regarding the clutch fluid change: you should be changing out your brake/clutch fluid every 2 years regardless of mileage. Sure... you can just unbolt the slave and put it back in without touching the fluid. But why sell yourself short and do a hack job? The clutch isnt changed very often do you can bet that fluid has been in there for a while and likely needs to be changed.

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[BrilliantBlkS4]

I had my clutch and flywheel replaced for just over $1100 two summers ago. that was just labor but still... Get out of long island and give Edge Motors a call. They do a fantastic job

[All_Black_A4]

Why would someone pay 13.5 hrs for a 9.4 hr job?
Book time is book time and some shops abide by that and make extra money charging book time while doing the job in much less time. Im an honest business owner and I charge respectively. If I have a job that books for 8 hours and it only takes 4. I charge for 4 hours. If the job requires extra, I charge extra. I don't just charge what some monkey behind a computer thinks it should cost. Especially when the job can be done for an honest 4 hours of work. WITH swapping the RMS and flywheel.


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I wish I had shops like yours around my area. I feel like I need to bring a tube of KY every time I take the wifes Odyssey in for a service at the dealership. Latest trip they wanted to replace the RMS as it was "leaking". Quoted me over $2500 CDN. Hourly rate is $150. I'll pull an engine and do the timing on the S4 but wont touch her mini van cos if I screw it up we're in trouble. Can't fit 4 kids safely in the back of an S4

[RPMtech147]

Why would someone pay 13.5 hrs for a 9.4 hr job?
Book time is book time and some shops abide by that and make extra money charging book time while doing the job in much less time. Im an honest business owner and I charge respectively. If I have a job that books for 8 hours and it only takes 4. I charge for 4 hours. If the job requires extra, I charge extra. I don't just charge what some monkey behind a computer thinks it should cost. Especially when the job can be done for an honest 4 hours of work. WITH swapping the RMS and flywheel.

And regarding the clutch fluid change: you should be changing out your brake/clutch fluid every 2 years regardless of mileage. Sure... you can just unbolt the slave and put it back in without touching the fluid. But why sell yourself short and do a hack job? The clutch isnt changed very often do you can bet that fluid has been in there for a while and likely needs to be changed.

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The client can chose to pay whatever the shop asks, or take it somewhere else. It's kind of capitalistic.

I understand your mindset, and the way you do it works fine for (very) small operations.

The issue arises when you have a larger shop; you need some kind of labor guide.

IE: A job "books" 8 hours. Tech A can do the job in 4 hours. Tech B takes close to 8, a little slower, not familiar with that particular car, etc....So tech A should do the same job for 1/2 the pay because he's better at his job?

That's literally what you're saying. That's why flat-rate exists.

[ShootingBrakeS4]

Thanks for all of the advice, any good shops in Long Island I can go to?

As far as labor rate or estimated job time, doesn’t really matter. At the end of the day it’s a bill to pay, and 3,125 is too
High for me when I know others will do it for cheaper. It’s a 17 year old car with an engine swap and 155k, Can’t justify all that money when I already have 4 other cars. Don’t get me wrong I love my wagon and miss driving it everyday but it will get fixed for cheaper eventually.

Meantime I’m really enjoying driving this 1997 merc c280 with 65k miles I picked up for 4,000.

[RPMtech147]

Thanks for all of the advice, any good shops in Long Island I can go to?

As far as labor rate or estimated job time, doesn’t really matter. At the end of the day it’s a bill to pay, and 3,125 is too
High for me when I know others will do it for cheaper. It’s a 17 year old car with an engine swap and 155k, Can’t justify all that money when I already have 4 other cars. Don’t get me wrong I love my wagon and miss driving it everyday but it will get fixed for cheaper eventually.

Meantime I’m really enjoying driving this 1997 merc c280 with 65k miles I picked up for 4,000.

First off, Bravo for keeping a 202 MB on the road in 2022. They don't come around much anymore at my shop.

There aren't many "successful shops" in business that offer "cheap" euro repair. The job is going to cost between 9 and 14 labor hours, regardless of your location...+ parts.

The vast majority of shops won't install customer supplied parts.(Do you bring your own steak to the restaurant?) Shops make money on parts; period (We're not a charity..just trying to make money, just like you.)


Back to the tech stuff. If you have a garage, a free weekend, and tools...It's not terrible. In my "poor" days I've pulled S4 transmissions on my back. It sucked but it was do-able.

If you don't have tools, or a garage.it's going to cost you about 3 g's. I wouldn't touch it for less than that...Sorry OP.

If you search my history going back to 2014, you'll find my "on my back" S4 clutch replacement.

Buy a couple jack-stands, some tools, a case off beer, tell your wife/GF to go away and do it yourself! (The lower Bellhousing bolts are a c*nt and if you don't have a plethora of weird extensions and adapters, it'll make you invent new swear words) If you don't have all the tools to get to the lower bell-bolts, you can simply stick a jack under the oil pan, remove the lower motor mount bolts and * loosen the subframe bolts..that'll give the extra few mills to get the lower bolts.

[mtwallace85]

Exactly. Highway robbery in my opinion. 4-5 hours is being generous if you know what you're doing and have a lift. You can do it faster as well.... but 9 hours is if you take long naps in between wrenching lol. And a LUK oem flywheel costs 488.79 and LUK oem clutch kit costs 165.79 at rockauto. I know that's not where most shops would get the parts from or parts list cost, but it shows the markup over what the same exact parts cost

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Can confirm. JimmyBones was there to help, but got my clutch swapped on a lift in about 4 hours my first time trying. He said he’s done it in 2 on his, but he leaves the top bolt out out of the trans housing.

[RPMtech147]

Can confirm. JimmyBones was there to help, but got my clutch swapped on a lift in about 4 hours my first time trying. He said he’s done it in 2 on his, but he leaves the top bolt out out of the trans housing.

lol

If yall want to get paid near 0 for your labor then I can't argue.

The rest of us like to get paid for out labor.....

I like getting paid for wrenching. Just saying.....

I made a load of money for my trouble...



yeah...I wrench outside of VAG so maybe my viewpoint is skewed, I do Lambie and 'rarrii too...

[mtwallace85]

lol

If yall want to get paid near 0 for your labor then I can't argue.

The rest of us like to get paid for out labor.....

I like getting paid for wrenching. Just saying.....

I made a load of money for my trouble...

Please enlighten us on how you get paid to work on your own car, I’m definitely interested.

[RPMtech147]

Please enlighten us on how you get paid to work on your own car, I’m definitely interested.

Wait..so I can afford an MC or can work on them?

Naw...Im just a stupid wrench.

[mtwallace85]

Wait..so I can afford an MC or can work on them?

Naw...Im just a stupid wrench.

Take it easy, cowboy. Not sure you understand the point of my post because your response seems to be for somebody else.

[RPMtech147]

Take it easy, cowboy. Not sure you understand the point of my post because your response seems to be for somebody else.

lol. Im drinking tonight. Too many overheating VAG's in the shop this week(summer is a bitch on cooling systems in the southwest) to care about shops that charge 4 hours to do S4 clutches, and get mad when my clients pay me book(13+). Enjoy it, ya'll.

[mtwallace85]

lol. Im drinking tonight. Too many overheating VAG's in the shop this week(summer is a bitch on cooling systems in the southwest) to care about shops that charge 4 hours to do S4 clutches, and get mad when my clients pay me book(13+). Enjoy it, ya'll.

Only problem is I don’t own a shop nor do I charge people to fix their cars, so I’m not sure why you’re even talking to me.

The rest of us like to get paid for out labor.....

Charging 13 hours of labor for 6 hours isn’t getting paid for your labor, it’s cheating your customers out of money you didn’t earn. Anybody can get rich dishonestly, it’s actually quite easy, but it takes intelligence and balls to do it honestly. That’s just the way the world works

[Zolli]

Charging 13 hours of labor for 6 hours isn’t getting paid for your labor, it’s cheating your customers out of money you didn’t earn. Anybody can get rich dishonestly, it’s actually quite easy, but it takes intelligence and balls to do it honestly. That’s just the way the world works

I’m with you and Vinny. I do quite well in my businesses charging honestly. For employees that are not as advanced in their skills as higher-level employees, they are billed at a lower rate, yet they also receive professional training to develop their abilities. I can adjust my rates as needed. Above all, I have to protect my reputation, and the relatively tiny sum I’d otherwise get by cheating just isn’t worth it. I’m trusted with the big stuff because I am also honest about the small stuff. Anyway that’s my experience.

[ak-s4]

OP, actually, you may need a transmission rebuild instead, as your issue could be your synchros. Maybe get a second opinion.

But despite that if you were going to spend $4k on a new clutch for a car worth $40k, you probably wouldn't be nearly so concerned. And it should be no surprise that a good mechanic does the work in half the book time, nor should it surprise anyone that shops make piles of money on parts. All well-known facts.

So if you're going to own an older car on the cheap, you need to be smart about it. Find a mechanic that does side work out of his house or at your house. Do a bunch of the legwork, like researching the repair and obtaining budget-friendly parts.

[JimmyBones]

I’m with you and Vinny. I do quite well in my businesses charging honestly. For employees that are not as advanced in their skills as higher-level employees, they are billed at a lower rate, yet they also receive professional training to develop their abilities. I can adjust my rates as needed. Above all, I have to protect my reputation, and the relatively tiny sum I’d otherwise get by cheating just isn’t worth it. I’m trusted with the big stuff because I am also honest about the small stuff. Anyway that’s my experience.

I have heard this argument before especially in regards to lawyers and law firms with their billing practices but the automotive field doesn't do that at least in the USA from what I have seen across multiple states.

[x X CLoud X x]

150k miles is around the time when the clutch is usually all worn, I've had mine replaced at 165k miles still wasn't slipping yet but was tired of wondering when this clutch would slip so minus well replace sooner better then getting stranded later and the shop I went to do the work was in Queens NY excellent shop called Tri Auto & Body been using them for years. GL

[ShootingBrakeS4]

Ive never owned a domestic except for my work truck, only German cars, all manuals . I’m well aware of there costs and issues and I was willing to pay him the 3150 to be honest but when I said to him

“after your diagnostics, with all of your knowledge of euro cars, experience working on b6’s can you shake my hand and promise me that for 3,150 the car will drive out of here no problem????”

He said

“No ...,cause when we open it up
We don’t know what we’re going to find”

I can’t risk paying him 3k to tell me it’s gonna be another 3k. That why I paid for the diagnosis no? So they can figure out the problem before they start the work.

It’s gonna take them 5-6 hours and they gonna charge me for 14, buy a clutch kit for 200 or less and charge me for factory oem prices.

Rmptech:

I’ve owned 3 old benzittos, 123,201,202

But the c280 I got for $4K With 51k miles. 1 owner. The c43/c55 is my favorite all time benz so I couldn’t pass this one up. It will go to my wife when I get the wagon back.
.

[VinnysS4]

when I said to him

“after your diagnostics, with all of your knowledge of euro cars, experience working on b6’s can you shake my hand and promise me that for 3,150 the car will drive out of here no problem????”

He said

“No ...,cause when we open it up
We don’t know what we’re going to find”

I can’t risk paying him 3k to tell me it’s gonna be another 3k. That why I paid for the diagnosis no? So they can figure out the problem before they start the work.

It’s gonna take them 5-6 hours and they gonna charge me for 14, buy a clutch kit for 200 or less and charge me for factory oem prices.
.

Not much else to find... if you have a stock dual mass flywheel.. you really need to swap that out. They can be a ticking time bomb. I've personally had one take out my transmission. Its cheap insurance. So figure they are going to charge you the extra for the flywheel. Now you're at $4k. What else is there to find during a clutch job? Rear main seal or maybe the slave cylinder.


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[RPMtech147]

Only problem is I don’t own a shop nor do I charge people to fix their cars, so I’m not sure why you’re even talking to me.



Charging 13 hours of labor for 6 hours isn’t getting paid for your labor, it’s cheating your customers out of money you didn’t earn. Anybody can get rich dishonestly, it’s actually quite easy, but it takes intelligence and balls to do it honestly. That’s just the way the world works

You guys, lol

So you sold your house after you owned it for 10 years for what you paid for it? (No, you didn't...you made a killing...I did.**OMG that's dishonest!!** I bet you made a 1/4mill.) Do you realize that everything you ever bought retail, someone else made a *scoff" profit?






Labor is 13.5, minimum..add a slave bleed, extra, pilot bushing extra, wiper blades.....extra...you want to charge less....not my business.

I know it doesn't matter what I post here, I'm not going to change anyone's mind, but trying to call me "dishonest"....no. That's how the repair game works. Don't get mad at me. I've never strong armed a single soul into a repair, and if I thought they were pouring money into a hole, I tell them "This car is going to bankrupt you, sell it."

...and I'm not pulling any transmission for 4 hours. Take it to someone that does.

(don't get me started on the basket cases that get drug to me on on a tow-truck with the block laying in the trunk after the guy that could "do it cheaper" had a swing at it. e36/46 107's, B5-6-7-8, etc, etc)

Im sending VinnysS4 all my work(from clients that can't afford to maintain a German car).. You're going to be backed up for 6 months, bro. Make that money.

[mtwallace85]

You guys, lol

So you sold your house after you owned it for 10 years for what you paid for it? (No, you didn't...you made a killing...I did.**OMG that's dishonest!!** I bet you made a 1/4mill.) Do you realize that everything you ever bought retail, someone else made a *scoff" profit?






I know it doesn't matter what I post here, I'm not going to change anyone's mind, but trying to call me "dishonest"....no. That's how the repair game works. Don't get mad at me. I've never strong armed a single soul into a repair, and if I thought they were pouring money into a hole, I tell them "This car is going to bankrupt you, sell it."

...and I'm not pulling any transmission for 4 hours. Take it to someone that does.

(don't get me started on the basket cases that get drug to me on on a tow-truck with the block laying in the trunk after the guy that could "do it cheaper" had a swing at it. e36/46 107's, B5-6-7-8, etc, etc)

Im sending VinnysS4 all my work(from clients that can't afford to maintain a German car).. You're going to be backed up for 6 months, bro. Make that money.

Dude, you need to just put the computer away and stop typing. I wouldn’t even call your attempt a metaphor because it’s so far off from what a metaphor actually is. Property values and appreciation literally have no similarities at all with a mechanic charging somebody twice as many hours or more than they actually worked. Out of curiosity, how many of your customers do you share that information with? I guarantee you you’d have far less customers, if any, if you told them you’re charging them for twice as many hours than you worked because that’s what’s in the book. You trying to justify your actions just speaks to the kind of person you are.

Wanna guess what happens when you buy something retail that doesn’t do what it’s supposed to? You get your money back because consumers in the US are protected by the CFPB. So again, terrible metaphor.

It actually does matter what you post here, that’s why nobody is going to agree with you; what you posted just proves you’re dishonest and have shady business practices. That’s just how the game goes with scummy mechanics. If you’re going to be be dishonest, at least own it and don’t be a p****y.

You’re not pulling a transmission in 4 hours only because you’re not talented enough. Easy as that.

Btw, I made considerably more than that in a year

[RPMtech147]

Not much else to find... if you have a stock dual mass flywheel.. you really need to swap that out. They can be a ticking time bomb. I've personally had one take out my transmission. Its cheap insurance. So figure they are going to charge you the extra for the flywheel. Now you're at $4k. What else is there to find during a clutch job? Rear main seal or maybe the slave cylinder.


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Ive never owned a domestic except for my work truck, only German cars, all manuals . I’m well aware of there costs and issues and I was willing to pay him the 3150 to be honest but when I said to him

“after your diagnostics, with all of your knowledge of euro cars, experience working on b6’s can you shake my hand and promise me that for 3,150 the car will drive out of here no problem????”

He said

“No ...,cause when we open it up
We don’t know what we’re going to find”

I can’t risk paying him 3k to tell me it’s gonna be another 3k. That why I paid for the diagnosis no? So they can figure out the problem before they start the work.

It’s gonna take them 5-6 hours and they gonna charge me for 14, buy a clutch kit for 200 or less and charge me for factory oem prices.

Rmptech:

I’ve owned 3 old benzittos, 123,201,202

But the c280 I got for $4K With 51k miles. 1 owner. The c43/c55 is my favorite all time benz so I couldn’t pass this one up. It will go to my wife when I get the wagon back.
.

Not 100% Mr VinnyS4.

I've had at least 2 or 3 170 SLK (Benz's) that had "clutch problem" when the actual issue was a broken clutch pedal pivot (under the dash). The brace/scaffold under the dash broke and caused a symptom similar to a bad clutch.

[RPMtech147]

Dude, you need to just put the computer away and stop typing. I wouldn’t even call your attempt a metaphor because it’s so far off of what a metaphor actually is. Property values and appreciation literally have no similarities at all with a mechanic charging somebody twice as many hours or more than they actually worked. Out of curiosity, how many of your customers do you share that information with? I guarantee you you’d have far less customers, if any, if you told them you’re charging them for twice as many hours than you worked because that’s what’s in the book. You trying to justify your actions just speaks to the kind of person you are.

Wanna guess what happens when you buy something retail that doesn’t do what it’s supposed to? You get your money back because consumers in the US are protected by the CFPB. So again, terrible metaphor.

It actually does matter what you post here, that’s why nobody is going to agree with you; what you posted just proves you’re dishonest and have shady business practices. That’s just how the game goes with scummy mechanics. If you’re going to be be dishonest, at least own it and don’t be a p****y.

You’re not pulling a transmission in 4 hours only because you’re not talented enough. Easy as that.

Btw, I made considerably more than that in a year

I have...not kidding, broken cars in my parking lot, backed up for 2 weeks...

I'm going to bow out from this thread....Sorry OP. If you were in my AO, id have given you a break.

there's literally no valid input in your(this quote) post

No shit though, what did you make? I did Ok = ) (you wont answer cause you're a trolll) How's your business doing? We're doing surprising well in the Vid. ( I guess the average car value doubling in 2 years makes cars worth repairing)

Sorry, MODs. i'll let it lie.

OP, if you get it figured out...let us know. - The jerkoff that charges book+

[mtwallace85]

there's literally no valid input in your post

No shit though, what did you make? I did Ok = ) (you wont answer cause you're a trolll) How's your business doing? We're doing surprising well in the Vid. ( I guess the average car value doubling in 2 years makes cars worth repairing)

You obviously can’t read if you couldn’t extract anything from what I wrote. Seems like you’re getting quite the kick out of trolling this thread; trying to fill a void? If you’re life/business is so great I doubt you’d be here trying to convince people of that. Since you can’t contribute anything of value, I’ll just go ahead and ignore you now

[ShootingBrakeS4]

Not 100% Mr VinnyS4.

I've had at least 2 or 3 170 SLK (Benz's) that had "clutch problem" when the actual issue was a broken clutch pedal pivot (under the dash). The brace/scaffold under the dash broke and caused a symptom similar to a bad clutch.

At first I check the master because in 2019 I changed the slave and hydraulic lines. When I originally approached elite, I said can you please look at the master I think it’s crapped out. After they “diagnosed” the car they said the hydraulic system has pressure so they have to pull the tranny to check the pressure plate.

I know I need a clutch at 150k+ but It was working fine right before the clutch lost 50% pressure. It was driving fine, I shifted into 3rd and it sort of grinded the gear a tiny bit before catching, it does this in all gears leading me to believe it’s hydraulic or like you said mechanical in the linkage somewhere preventing the piston from fully depressing, honestly I haven’t looked at it much because I had extra money and am really busy with side work and personal projects in addition to my 9-5. I just want to drive the thing already sick of waiting is all. Your right could be a clutch pedal/master thing and not the pressure plate\disk.

[RPMtech147]

I have...not kidding, broken cars in my parking lot, backed up for 2 weeks...

I'm going to bow out from this thread....Sorry OP. If you were in my AO, id have given you a break.

there's literally no valid input in your(this quote) post

No shit though, what did you make? I did Ok = ) (you wont answer cause you're a trolll) How's your business doing? We're doing surprising well in the Vid. ( I guess the average car value doubling in 2 years makes cars worth repairing)

Sorry, MODs. i'll let it lie.

OP, if you get it figured out...let us know. - The jerkoff that charges book+

see above

I just posted a screen shot of the booktime....really..it's 13.5.

I mean, so which is it? I'm a big fat liar and I just googed a bunch of random images or I actually make my living off fixing eurotrash? IF op can find a shop do a clutch for pennies on the dollar than good for him (Sorry OP!)










(the bent costomer blew out after my quote then towed it back after the next shop broke it) I dunno...

night ya'll. Not replying to this thread anymore...OP, PM if you want my opinion

NM..There's literally nothing I can say to justify paying "book" for anything...ever. lol.

[ShootingBrakeS4]

I know the book says whatever and some books say different times but, IMO 3k+ is a lot for a clutch especially when he can’t guarantee it will be fixed for that price.

I mean, mechanics have the lifts and all the tools and all the experience and man power to do that type of job, It’s not like your creating a master piece or fabricating custom work, it’s standard maintenance that they literally sell instruction manuals to explain it and have YouTube videos to show it. Yes is dirty work but these standardized auto repair prices are too high.

I’m just to busy to do it my self and too frugal to pay 3k. I’ll find a solution eventually, have a couple prospects.

I don’t put stock in official ‘books’ anyway.
The Warren Commission will tell you a magic bullet killed JFK and the 9/11 Commission will tell you that 2 planes took down 3 building in NYC.

But I digress

[RPMtech147]

I know the book says whatever and some books say different times but, IMO 3k+ is a lot for a clutch especially when he can’t guarantee it will be fixed for that price.

I mean, mechanics have the lifts and all the tools and all the experience and man power to do that type of job, It’s not like your creating a master piece or fabricating custom work, it’s standard maintenance that they literally sell instruction manuals to explain it and have YouTube videos to show it. Yes is dirty work but these standardized auto repair prices are too high.

I’m just to busy to do it my self and too frugal to pay 3k. I’ll find a solution eventually, have a couple prospects.

I don’t put stock in official ‘books’ anyway.
The Warren Commission will tell you a magic bullet killed JFK and the 9/11 Commission will tell you that 2 planes took down 3 building in NYC.

But I digress

The last part of your comment made me el oh el(I wont say which side of it I'm on, and it doesn't matter) but thank you for the comic relief. I post here for tech, not "off topic" so disregard my "opinion" on "cost" otherwise.....lol, sorry. Can't help myself. I did a supercharger on a jag that booked 6.5 today. It took me three hours. I charged them 6.5 hours. Sorry.

[ShootingBrakeS4]

Your honesty confirms my suspicions. I’ll diagnose it myself.

[RPMtech147]

Just ban me mods....No use for me, no use for yall. fuck yall. Enjoy your $400 clutch job. ******s. Im in phoenix if you want words. fuck yall again.

[ShootingBrakeS4]

Actually 400 to fix a clutch seems fair to me, if a clutch takes a full day of work and a mechanic charges $400 a day, that’s 2k a week, that seems fair to me.

For comparison, I’m building for a client a Custom front counter with merch casline and 4x 6ft partition walls for his tattoo shop. It will take me a week to custom design and fabricate from raw material, I will make 3k for the week after material cost. I charge fair prices, a book may tell me to charge 10k but I may lose the client and scare off future customers with my high prices. In my case elite did lose me as a client. I mean it’s only nuts and bolts we’re talking about, the bolt comes out and goes back in.

[VinnysS4]

Just ban me mods....No use for me, no use for yall. fuck yall. Enjoy your $400 clutch job. ******s. Im in phoenix if you want words. fuck yall again.

Dont go away salty... just go away.

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[Kambesama]

Not much else to find... if you have a stock dual mass flywheel.. you really need to swap that out. They can be a ticking time bomb. I've personally had one take out my transmission. Its cheap insurance. So figure they are going to charge you the extra for the flywheel. Now you're at $4k. What else is there to find during a clutch job? Rear main seal or maybe the slave cylinder.


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Didn't these also have a possibility of a cracked bellhousing? I thought I saw somewhere on here that happened to some