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    Drive Select and re-activating Dynamic mode after restart

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    Drive Select and Dynamic Nuance

    My understanding is that each time you start the engine fresh, the actual setting of the Engine/Trans is Comfort, even if the Drive Select mode (i.e. what the dash displays) says Dynamic. This is supposedly for gas mileage / EPA / similar reasons.

    To actually get the car to go into Dynamic, you can cycle through the modes by clicking Drive Select enough times to cycle back around to Dynamic again, or you can hit the button once and use the main MMI scroll wheel to select Dynamic again.
    Example: You are in Dynamic, driving around in "S", etc. and you stop, shift to Park, and turn the car off. You then restart the engine, and shift to Drive, and the display still shows "Dynamic" but now shows "D" (not "S") because the car restarted with the Engine/Trans mode in Comfort due to its programming. If you then re-select Dynamic via Drive Select, you'll see the display immediately switch to "S" (and still "Dynamic"), the idle revs raise slightly, etc. Hopefully all of that was clear so far.

    My question is, at the point when you restarted in "Dynamic" and switched to Drive, but have NOT yet re-selected Dynamic via Drive Select —*and thus the Engine/Trans is in Comfort still —*will pulling the shift lever back to engage "S" mode have the complete same effect as re-selecting Dynamic as described above? Or... does it go back to Comfort setting after pulling the lever again to go back to D, and thus you still have to ultimately re-select Dynamic via Drive Select to get full, true Dynamic?

    My goal is to be able to start the car, drive in "D" for the first several minutes until the engine/oil/trans/etc. are thoroughly warm, and then engage true Dynamic and "S" by pulling the lever back, without having to use the Drive Select button to re-enable Dynamic after starting the car up.

    Will pulling the lever achieve that, or do I still need to select Dynamic to get it to truly engage Dynamic mode? I know the trans will definitely be in "S" ("Dynamic") when pulling the lever back, but will the engine mode also be in Dynamic? Given that the setting option in Individual mode lists it as "Engine/Trans" (suggesting they're not separable), I would suspect/hope that pulling the lever back truly re-engages Dynamic for both engine and trans, just as re-selecting Dynamic via Drive Select does following a restart, but I'm not sure how to tell for certain, so I'm hoping folks familiar with the underlying programming may be able to provide insight.

    As additional context, before I installed a CETE valve controller, I would have to re-select Dynamic just to get the valves to open. The CETE eliminated that need (plus other benefits!). However, I'm wondering if I still need to re-select Dynamic to actually get Dynamic in terms of engine performance, or if pulling the lever when already in "Dynamic" will achieve the same result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whicker View Post
    Drive Select and Dynamic Nuance

    My understanding is that each time you start the engine fresh, the actual setting of the Engine/Trans is Comfort, even if the Drive Select mode (i.e. what the dash displays) says Dynamic. This is supposedly for gas mileage / EPA / similar reasons.

    To actually get the car to go into Dynamic, you can cycle through the modes by clicking Drive Select enough times to cycle back around to Dynamic again, or you can hit the button once and use the main MMI scroll wheel to select Dynamic again.
    Example: You are in Dynamic, driving around in "S", etc. and you stop, shift to Park, and turn the car off. You then restart the engine, and shift to Drive, and the display still shows "Dynamic" but now shows "D" (not "S") because the car restarted with the Engine/Trans mode in Comfort due to its programming. If you then re-select Dynamic via Drive Select, you'll see the display immediately switch to "S" (and still "Dynamic"), the idle revs raise slightly, etc. Hopefully all of that was clear so far.

    My question is, at the point when you restarted in "Dynamic" and switched to Drive, but have NOT yet re-selected Dynamic via Drive Select —*and thus the Engine/Trans is in Comfort still —*will pulling the shift lever back to engage "S" mode have the complete same effect as re-selecting Dynamic as described above? Or... does it go back to Comfort setting after pulling the lever again to go back to D, and thus you still have to ultimately re-select Dynamic via Drive Select to get full, true Dynamic?

    My goal is to be able to start the car, drive in "D" for the first several minutes until the engine/oil/trans/etc. are thoroughly warm, and then engage true Dynamic and "S" by pulling the lever back, without having to use the Drive Select button to re-enable Dynamic after starting the car up.

    Will pulling the lever achieve that, or do I still need to select Dynamic to get it to truly engage Dynamic mode? I know the trans will definitely be in "S" ("Dynamic") when pulling the lever back, but will the engine mode also be in Dynamic? Given that the setting option in Individual mode lists it as "Engine/Trans" (suggesting they're not separable), I would suspect/hope that pulling the lever back truly re-engages Dynamic for both engine and trans, just as re-selecting Dynamic via Drive Select does following a restart, but I'm not sure how to tell for certain, so I'm hoping folks familiar with the underlying programming may be able to provide insight.

    As additional context, before I installed a CETE valve controller, I would have to re-select Dynamic just to get the valves to open. The CETE eliminated that need (plus other benefits!). However, I'm wondering if I still need to re-select Dynamic to actually get Dynamic in terms of engine performance, or if pulling the lever when already in "Dynamic" will achieve the same result.
    Good question - I've always rolled though the drive select while thinking how stupid it was that the last setting displayed isn't actually what you are in.... I've not thought to try this, but if you engage launch control (Transmission into S and traction control off) if it engages that it really is in dynamic, if it doesn't then you have your answer. Unless of course activating launch control automatically selects a real dynamic mode. In which case you just need to use launch control while leaving your garage :)

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    your understanding is correct, if you restart the the car, it doesn't matter that you last left it in dynamic, everything goes back to comfort, despite the display still saying dynamic.

    in this fake dynamic state, pulling back the shifter will only adjust the trans mode, not the engine mode. however, you will get the sport valve behavior. you'll get pops and bangs if your model year / ecu tune supports that and a louder exhaust. i used to do this all the time when i just wanted the auditory experience and didn't care that the car was not in true dynamic across the board.

    it's also important to realize the sport valve behavior is not both valves open all the time. the sport valve behavior is that the driver's side valve is open all the time. the passenger side valve opens and closes depending on throttle and RPM. if you want to change that, you'll need a tune that alters it (unitronic) or a controller like the CETE. this was an hard lesson for me to learn, i thought both valves opened and stayed open. it's important to understand this if you move to something like the AWE switchpath, which only retains the passenger side valve. i hated the stock valve programing with only the passenger side at play and that's why i got the CETE.
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    Signde is correct. However there are a couple of more complications. A restart from Dynamic has the engine/trans and exhaust revert to comfort, but the suspension (mag ride) and steering stay in Dynamic. Just to recap, Dynamic has a better throttle response, some ESC removed, waste gate set to immediate power and the exhaust more open. My assumption is that Audi requires drivers to reset the drive mode so that a partner, son/daughter, or valet are not startled by the extra exhaust and crashing because some ESC is removed. The car must see that the exhaust valve is closed and then opened by the ECU. If this does not happen the ECU cuts power. So wiring the exhaust valves open means that there will be reduced power. Not sure that aftermarket products know or care about this fact.

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    Does this apply to individual as well? It always comes back up as individual so I assume the settings are there. I always drive in sport mode.
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    Yes it is the same for Individual. The giveaway is when the transmission is put in gear it will always go to Drive. Some drivers are then pulling back on the shifter (which goes into Sport) and assuming the car is now in Auto or Dynamic (whatever is set in Individual). The shifter can only change the transmission, it cannot select a drive mode. And the increased idle speed is a product of the Sport (as well as Dynamic) setting. If the car is in Comfort Sport it will have the increased idle.

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    Thanks for your guys' responses so far.

    Quote Originally Posted by signde View Post
    your understanding is correct, if you restart the the car, it doesn't matter that you last left it in dynamic, everything goes back to comfort, despite the display still saying dynamic.

    in this fake dynamic state, pulling back the shifter will only adjust the trans mode, not the engine mode.
    Just curious, how were you able to come to this conclusion, i.e. that the shifter only puts the trans into Sport/Dynamic, but not the engine?

    P.S. I also got the CETE because I didn't care for the stock valve behavior with it opening and closing all over the place — it's so much better with them open all the time. But while the CETE did get me past the need to re-select Dynamic to get the sound I wanted, my worry is this, that I still need to do it to get actual engine performance in Dynamic. My hope was that pulling the stick into S, while already having started in [fake] "Dynamic", would be enough to move it into true Dynamic from there forward...

    Quote Originally Posted by steve111b View Post
    A restart from Dynamic has the engine/trans and exhaust revert to comfort, but the suspension (mag ride) and steering stay in Dynamic. Just to recap, Dynamic has a better throttle response, some ESC removed, waste gate set to immediate power and the exhaust more open. My assumption is that Audi requires drivers to reset the drive mode so that a partner, son/daughter, or valet are not startled by the extra exhaust and crashing because some ESC is removed.
    Can you share more about how you know this, i.e. that pulling the stick back only puts the Trans into Dynamic/Sport, but not the Engine setting as well? Have you been able to see this in the tuning parameters or data logging, or is it more based on intuition, or...? Just curious how we can go about knowing this for sure.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve111b View Post
    The car must see that the exhaust valve is closed and then opened by the ECU. If this does not happen the ECU cuts power. So wiring the exhaust valves open means that there will be reduced power. Not sure that aftermarket products know or care about this fact.
    Good question*—*I don't know enough about the specifics of how the CETE valve controller harness integrates with the stock system in order to override the stock valve programming. Hopefully, assuming re-selecting Dynamic via Drive Select is what's required to get "true" Dynamic after a restart, as you guys are suggesting, hopefully that also triggers the ECU to give full power, despite the CETE telling the valves to stay open.

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    Yes, you do have to re-pick the drive mode every time you start the car. However, you do not need to cycle through the list. Simply bringing up the drive mode menu and pressing down on the MMI touch/rotary push button will change the mode back to what is shown (thereby ending the “lie” about which mode you are in). This was not the case in my 2015 RS5, which you actually needed to change modes for it to change. The RS3 is a bit better here. Also, you can program the * button in the steering wheel to bring up the mode selection if you are worried of eventually wearing out the mode button.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 0000 RS5 View Post
    Yes, you do have to re-pick the drive mode every time you start the car. However, you do not need to cycle through the list. Simply bringing up the drive mode menu and pressing down on the MMI touch/rotary push button will change the mode back to what is shown (thereby ending the “lie” about which mode you are in). This was not the case in my 2015 RS5, which you actually needed to change modes for it to change. The RS3 is a bit better here. Also, you can program the * button in the steering wheel to bring up the mode selection if you are worried of eventually wearing out the mode button.
    That is what I do currently: either hit the steering wheel * button or press Drive Select to bring up the menu, and then press the MMI knob to confirm current selection (i.e. Dynamic in this case). Certainly better than scrolling through, but still a minor annoyance versus simply pulling the stick back into S, which I’ll do anyway once the engine is warm. As it stands, I have to re-select Dynamic, then pull the stick to go back to D until warmed up thoroughly, and then later stick again into S. Sheesh! 🤪

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    following. didn't know this is how it worked, i guess i've only been driving with my trans in dynamic-sport mode for almost my entire ownership, even during my races
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve111b View Post
    Yes it is the same for Individual. The giveaway is when the transmission is put in gear it will always go to Drive. Some drivers are then pulling back on the shifter (which goes into Sport) and assuming the car is now in Auto or Dynamic (whatever is set in Individual). The shifter can only change the transmission, it cannot select a drive mode. And the increased idle speed is a product of the Sport (as well as Dynamic) setting. If the car is in Comfort Sport it will have the increased idle.
    Christ. I had no idea about the other modes also defaulting back to comfort settings. I thought it was just dynamic mode. :(
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    I don't know about other people's cars, but if I shut my car off in dynamic mode and restart, the car is not in comfort mode despite saying dynamic.

    Comfort mode has a really obvious FWD feel and deadened throttle response. I call it GTI mode.

    The only difference I get by not cycling through the modes back to dynamic is closed valves. Perhaps this has to do with being tuned using unitronic for ECU/TCU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheContrarian View Post
    I don't know about other people's cars, but if I shut my car off in dynamic mode and restart, the car is not in comfort mode despite saying dynamic.

    Comfort mode has a really obvious FWD feel and deadened throttle response. I call it GTI mode.

    The only difference I get by not cycling through the modes back to dynamic is closed valves. Perhaps this has to do with being tuned using unitronic for ECU/TCU.
    For me, the valves aren't an indicator anymore given the CETE controller, nor is the suspension given fixed RS suspension, hence why I'm asking about this. The only true indication to me about this phenomenon is that it clearly says D when you shift into Drive, indicating it's not really in Dynamic until you re-select it. I also thought maybe pulling the shifter to S would do so. However, the only reason I even know to ask this is because I've read it here before, which is why I'm curious to know how people actually know this is the case. Can folks see this is what's happening via data logging, or do tuners know this from digging into it?

    I do think it's odd that the steering is still obviously Dynamic after a restart (and as others can attest, the suspension too), but the Engine/Trans setting is "Comfort", and that pulling the lever only gets you Trans Dynamic, but not Engine (requiring a re-selecting of Dynamic via Drive Select). The EPA / noise theory makes sense —*I just wonder how we can really know the answer here. Glad to be having the discussion and getting all these inputs! Please keep chiming in, folks. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whicker View Post
    The only true indication to me about this phenomenon is that it clearly says D when you shift into Drive, indicating it's not really in Dynamic until you re-select it.
    That's a trans setting to me. You might only have drive (D) available, but everything else is dynamic (throttle, steering, suspension, quattro).

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheContrarian View Post
    I don't know about other people's cars, but if I shut my car off in dynamic mode and restart, the car is not in comfort mode despite saying dynamic.

    Comfort mode has a really obvious FWD feel and deadened throttle response. I call it GTI mode.

    The only difference I get by not cycling through the modes back to dynamic is closed valves. Perhaps this has to do with being tuned using unitronic for ECU/TCU.
    mine is like that too, everything stays in dynamic except valves and trans...usually just tap down to S mode and car seems to be in all Dynamic

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheContrarian View Post
    I don't know about other people's cars, but if I shut my car off in dynamic mode and restart, the car is not in comfort mode despite saying dynamic.

    Comfort mode has a really obvious FWD feel and deadened throttle response. I call it GTI mode.

    The only difference I get by not cycling through the modes back to dynamic is closed valves. Perhaps this has to do with being tuned using unitronic for ECU/TCU.
    This is exactly how mine is. Also not sure if it’s from the tune (APR 1+).

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    Gave up using both the steering wheel button and the drive select switch years ago. Under the wheel press the menu button. Turn the wheel to get vehicle, push the wheel and you have drive select on the MMI forever. The MMI is set to drive select (stays on the screen) whenever I drive.

    Restart the car and pull the shifter to Sport. Now with the MMI as I described above go into Individual. Pick engine/trans which gives 3 options, select Dynamic, but do not execute (do not push the wheel). That screen will stay like that until you push the wheel. Now drive around and when you decide it is a good idea to go into Dynamic push the wheel. This way you have a direct comparison of Comfort Sport and Dynamic.

    Most (all ?) RS3 have waste gate rattle on cold startup. Start the car and it will rattle, now select Dynamic and the rattle goes away.

    Yesterday I drove on a snow covered highway and on the weekend I drove on a road covered with ice. Most drivers are never going to get the opportunity to drive in conditions like that. When the road is slippery it is possible to see how the ESC is working and how the limits are set. So I am passing on my experience with ESC and everyone can accept (or reject) my views as they wish.

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    I have the CETE active valve controller on my 2019 RS3 with 034 stage 1 tune and I do not need to cycle through the drive select when restarting my car. So if I turn my car off in dynamic or comfort and turn it back on again it will stay in the last mode that I used.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcygts6 View Post
    I have the CETE active valve controller on my 2019 RS3 with 034 stage 1 tune and I do not need to cycle through the drive select when restarting my car. So if I turn my car off in dynamic or comfort and turn it back on again it will stay in the last mode that I used.
    Is the CETE a plug and play affair or does it require cutting/splicing and such in the factory harness? Any side effects or quirks with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcygts6 View Post
    I have the CETE active valve controller on my 2019 RS3 with 034 stage 1 tune and I do not need to cycle through the drive select when restarting my car. So if I turn my car off in dynamic or comfort and turn it back on again it will stay in the last mode that I used.
    Cete 100% doesn't do this. Your valves are just open giving you a false impression. When you pull away your transmission is in D not S - it's not a true dynamic mode and you need to cycle though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TToysRuS View Post
    Is the CETE a plug and play affair or does it require cutting/splicing and such in the factory harness? Any side effects or quirks with it?
    It's plug and play, and good for the most part. Mine occasionally gets fussy and and doesn't activate when the car is started and freezes the valves open or closed depending what mode it was last in. Only way to get it back is she the car off and lock in for 30 seconds.... replaced it once, but it still does it occasionally. Not a big deal. Worth it unless you have a tune that codes the valves properly open in dynamic, which would be the best way. CETE does have a nice feature of remembering the step/start function so it stays off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whicker View Post
    My question is, at the point when you restarted in "Dynamic" and switched to Drive, but have NOT yet re-selected Dynamic via Drive Select —*and thus the Engine/Trans is in Comfort still —*will pulling the shift lever back to engage "S" mode have the complete same effect as re-selecting Dynamic as described above? Or... does it go back to Comfort setting after pulling the lever again to go back to D, and thus you still have to ultimately re-select Dynamic via Drive Select to get full, true Dynamic?

    My goal is to be able to start the car, drive in "D" for the first several minutes until the engine/oil/trans/etc. are thoroughly warm, and then engage true Dynamic and "S" by pulling the lever back, without having to use the Drive Select button to re-enable Dynamic after starting the car up.

    Will pulling the lever achieve that, or do I still need to select Dynamic to get it to truly engage Dynamic mode? I know the trans will definitely be in "S" ("Dynamic") when pulling the lever back, but will the engine mode also be in Dynamic? Given that the setting option in Individual mode lists it as "Engine/Trans" (suggesting they're not separable), I would suspect/hope that pulling the lever back truly re-engages Dynamic for both engine and trans, just as re-selecting Dynamic via Drive Select does following a restart, but I'm not sure how to tell for certain, so I'm hoping folks familiar with the underlying programming may be able to provide insight.
    Only pulling the shift lever downward from D- to S-mode after start-up does not toggle Drive Select modes. If you start up the engine and the last Drive Select mode engaged was Dynamic, the instruments will show you Dynamic mode, even though it's in Comfort. After you start up the engine, you must toggle through the Drive select modes to engage Dynamic. Hope that helps!
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    You can get plugs for the exhaust valves and they will be open all the time. I bought my set from a guy in the RS3 Facebook group.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John@Unitronic View Post
    Only pulling the shift lever downward from D- to S-mode after start-up does not toggle Drive Select modes. If you start up the engine and the last Drive Select mode engaged was Dynamic, the instruments will show you Dynamic mode, even though it's in Comfort. After you start up the engine, you must toggle through the Drive select modes to engage Dynamic. Hope that helps!
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    Does this differ if you are tuned or does the nature still remain the same?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mongo84 View Post
    Does this differ if you are tuned or does the nature still remain the same?

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    This nature remains the same after a tune. What I do now is select Comfort from the button for the last mile, then on cold start select Dynamic with button. When driving after that initial button selection I use the shift lever to select Drive/Sport depending on what I'm doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John@Unitronic View Post
    Only pulling the shift lever downward from D- to S-mode after start-up does not toggle Drive Select modes. If you start up the engine and the last Drive Select mode engaged was Dynamic, the instruments will show you Dynamic mode, even though it's in Comfort. After you start up the engine, you must toggle through the Drive select modes to engage Dynamic. Hope that helps!
    Appreciate the input and confirmation, John.

    Out of curiosity, are you able to tell this by looking at the car's programming, or through some other kind of means? I'm wondering how folks first discovered this [rather quirky] behavior.

    Regardless, sounds like I'll need to continue my new practice of re-selecting Dynamic after startup (bummed, as my CETE valve controller already removed that need to get the flaps open). Minor annoyance, to be sure.

    Thanks again for everyone's input here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrMerl View Post
    This nature remains the same after a tune.
    Can you say more about how you know that this behavior stays the same after a tune? E.g. are you able to see the behavior via the programming / data logging, or is it more based on other external factors you're observing in the car's behavior? Just curious how folks are able to tell this for certain. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whicker View Post
    Can you say more about how you know that this behavior stays the same after a tune? E.g. are you able to see the behavior via the programming / data logging, or is it more based on other external factors you're observing in the car's behavior? Just curious how folks are able to tell this for certain. Thanks!
    I was following this thread then asked 034 Motorsports on their latest video. (I use their products)
    https://youtu.be/ghphOU4Bgy4?t=3873

    Not sure if other tuners remove this cold start behavior or not. I have noticed the exhaust flaps can stay open after a button switch to Dynamic, then shift lever to Drive. I'd get a light drone at light throttle going up a rise in the road but I'd be in Drive, hitting the exhaust button would bring it to Standard sound (I have DP and mid pipes). I think that exhaust button press will take priority, re-selecting Sport on the shift lever would not open the valves until I hit the exhaust button again.

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    So I have owned the car for 3-4 months now and have been driving in comfort this entire time - thinking I was in dynamic as it displayed such on the dash at startup and assumed it remembered your previous settings? What if you set the setting to individual with everything toggled to dynamic? Will it then keep everything in true dynamic even between on/off cycles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by M3_Dylan View Post
    So I have owned the car for 3-4 months now and have been driving in comfort this entire time - thinking I was in dynamic as it displayed such on the dash at startup and assumed it remembered your previous settings? What if you set the setting to individual with everything toggled to dynamic? Will it then keep everything in true dynamic even between on/off cycles?
    No, it will always default to comfort no matter what setting you were last in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 0000 RS5 View Post
    No, it will always default to comfort no matter what setting you were last in.


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    Yes to this

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    Do you have to select another setting and then back to the one you want or can you simply select it first. Meaning if I had it in Dynamic, turned it off, back on.. do I need to select Comfort and then Dynamic to kick it back or can I just go in there and click on Dynamic (which is already shown as selected)? If that makes any sense…


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    Quote Originally Posted by ZRated_ View Post
    Do you have to select another setting and then back to the one you want or can you simply select it first. Meaning if I had it in Dynamic, turned it off, back on.. do I need to select Comfort and then Dynamic to kick it back or can I just go in there and click on Dynamic (which is already shown as selected)? If that makes any sense…


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    That is correct, and yes it did make sense. You do not need to change modes. Simply bring up the mode screen and press the MMI dial.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 0000 RS5 View Post
    That is correct, and yes it did make sense. You do not need to change modes. Simply bring up the mode screen and press the MMI dial.


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    Seems odd that if you have it in Dynamic on startup and you switch to "S" on the shifter, that it would not truly be in Dynamic + S mode. The revs go up, the car definitely handles firmly and well and when I go to Comfort (after starting automatically in Dynamic), I notice it softens up/etc. Not convinced here that its not truly in Dynamic. Throttle response appears to be Dynamic as well even if it auto starts there. Obviously still need to put traction control in Sport mode too to avoid it pulling power left and right.

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    You are correct about some of the settings staying in Dynamic after a restart. This is another layer of confusion about getting the car into full Dynamic. With mag ride the car stays in Dynamic for that setting after a restart. The steering also stays in Dynamic after a restart. Not sure about the quattro setting. However, the engine/trans and exhaust revert to Comfort on a restart. Many drivers point to the increased idle when the car is in Sport and assume this indicates the car is in Dynamic. This is not the case. The increased idle is tied to the transmission which means the car can be in Comfort Sport with the fast idle.

    It is not necessary to put the car in ESC Sport mode to avoid the car pulling power. The car pulls power in Comfort and does not pull power in Dynamic. So far I have never had the car pull power in Dynamic (except on snow). When in true Dynamic the traction light will flash a warning, but not pull power. If the traction light is flashing more than 50% of the time, most drivers have lost control of the car. The car can go into oversteer in Dynamic and most drivers cannot recover a car in oversteer. Best to pay attention to the traction warning and back off.

    When using ESC Sport there is no warning flash from the traction light. Without a warning flash I would say drivers have no available traction control to save mistakes/errors. On my 2021 GTI the traction light does flash when in ESC Sport.

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    I have a buddy who has a b9 s4 and 8v S3. He said that this is true and putting the car in S or M after an on/off cycle will put everything in Dynamic besides the engine (can't speak on suspension as I have fixed sport from Dynamic+ package). The engine in comfort should not pull power or change timing but predominantly change throttle response. He did say that doing a pull where the car would auto kick down a full a few gears I.E suddenly giving it 75-100% throttle will automatically switch the engine over from comfort to dynamic (assuming you had it set to dynamic last). Can't confirm this is exactly how it works for the RS3 but maybe someone can confirm
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    Personally I've found the easiest way is to use the steering button. Turn the car on cycle button to dynamic then hold down the button for 3 seconds or so. Works every time for me. I've checked thru the drive select on MMI to confirm Dynamic is selected.

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