ECS 10mm wheel spacer issues, anyone else?

[Dsobczak]

Hello,
I an running ECS 10mm spacers and I am now noticing that I have vibration when braking anywhere over 45MPH.... I found the following video where they talk about how the 10mm spacer are only made for factory wheels and they show you the rocking that occurs with aftermarket wheels. Well, im having the flop on the factory wheels... I reached out to ESC and told them what was going on and they told me they have to talk to production to see how they want to handle it.

Anyone else having this issue?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjv5nHehVY&t=67s)

[East_Coast_S4]

Hello,
I an running ECS 10mm spacers and I am now noticing that I have vibration when braking anywhere over 45MPH.... I found the following video where they talk about how the 10mm spacer are only made for factory wheels and they show you the rocking that occurs with aftermarket wheels. Well, im having the flop on the factory wheels... I reached out to ESC and told them what was going on and they told me they have to talk to production to see how they want to handle it.

Anyone else having this issue?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjv5nHehVY&t=67s)

Save yourself the headache and just get off the spacers.
Spacers are a bandaid to fix incorrectly fit wheels.

Get properly sized aftermarket wheels or deal with it for just 10mm look factor?

I don't think many have issues so you can try retorquing the wheel or maybe altering your stud size.

Vibration can only happen if something isn't fit together right and tight.

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[awdconnor]

How many miles are on your car? I see you are in Chicago, did you happen to wire brush the hub of the car and backpad of the wheel? If not there could be Millimeters of surface rust sitting there....

Spacers are completely fine and safe, as long as you install correctly. They will also exaggerate the feeling of any pre existing vibrations. If you have any flat spots on the tire, or maybe you lost a wheel weight while washing, spacers will let you know.

Another random thing is try to bed the brakes. May sound silly, but like i said above, anything connected to the hub that spins, if there is even a little bit of vibration stock, it doubles it with spacers.

I had ECS spacers and had no problems with them. Now im on some cheap Ebay spacers and still have no vibration or problem.

[oesman]

Hello, I an running ECS 10mm spacers and I am now noticing that I have vibration when braking anywhere over 45MPH....

Are your spacers hub centric and match your hub's specs? Do your aftermarket wheels have the same hub diameter or a hub adapter ring?

Save yourself the headache and just get off the spacers.
Spacers are a bandaid to fix incorrectly fit wheels.

Spacers can work when properly applied. Some cars, like Porsche, have used OEM spacers. The issues are usually improper/unsafe fitment and not using hub centric spacers. This happens with aftermarket wheel fitments too. I do agree that a spacer is one more thing to get wrong and people do screw up a lot. I also agree that you should use a properly fit hub centric aftermarket wheel wherever possible without the use of spacers or hub rings that can be added points of failure.

Sometimes getting a wheel fitment that does what you need without a spacer is impossible. For example I have a supercharged mustang track toy that needs to run square wheels for tire rotation purposes. It also needed the rears to be wide which in a square setup meant trying to fit 315s in the front. Without a spacer, camber plates, coil overs, and long wheel studs there's no great way of doing that. That is an extreme example of course.

[Sierra Audi]

Sounds to me like you might possibly have worn suspension bits as well. That’s a classic BMW symptom when the control arm bushings were too worn. If your front suspension parts have more than 40-45k miles, those spacers could be exacerbating the issue

[AKO]

I had terrible experience with ecs spacers. I would get vibration anywhere above 60mph. Multiple back and fourth with them, they asked me to tighten while the wheel was in the air which I did. I ended up switching over to H&R and no issues. The ecs spacers had terrible tolerances.

[Dsobczak]

Save yourself the headache and just get off the spacers.
Spacers are a bandaid to fix incorrectly fit wheels.

Get properly sized aftermarket wheels or deal with it for just 10mm look factor?

I don't think many have issues so you can try retorquing the wheel or maybe altering your stud size.

Vibration can only happen if something isn't fit together right and tight.

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I like the way the factory wheels look on the car so I have not really looked into the extra cost.

I bought their flush kit so the spacers can with everything needed to be installed correctly to include longer hardware.

This is my second Audi and my second set of spacers from ECS and did have this issue the first time on my S3

[Dsobczak]

Are your spacers hub centric and match your hub's specs? Do your aftermarket wheels have the same hub diameter or a hub adapter ring?




Spacers can work when properly applied. Some cars, like Porsche, have used OEM spacers. The issues are usually improper/unsafe fitment and not using hub centric spacers. This happens with aftermarket wheel fitments too. I do agree that a spacer is one more thing to get wrong and people do screw up a lot. I also agree that you should use a properly fit hub centric aftermarket wheel wherever possible without the use of spacers or hub rings that can be added points of failure.

Sometimes getting a wheel fitment that does what you need without a spacer is impossible. For example I have a supercharged mustang track toy that needs to run square wheels for tire rotation purposes. It also needed the rears to be wide which in a square setup meant trying to fit 315s in the front. Without a spacer, camber plates, coil overs, and long wheel studs there's no great way of doing that. That is an extreme example of course.

Yes they are hub centric and machined to fit factory wheel specs and thats what i have!

[Dsobczak]

How many miles are on your car? I see you are in Chicago, did you happen to wire brush the hub of the car and backpad of the wheel? If not there could be Millimeters of surface rust sitting there....

Spacers are completely fine and safe, as long as you install correctly. They will also exaggerate the feeling of any pre existing vibrations. If you have any flat spots on the tire, or maybe you lost a wheel weight while washing, spacers will let you know.

Another random thing is try to bed the brakes. May sound silly, but like i said above, anything connected to the hub that spins, if there is even a little bit of vibration stock, it doubles it with spacers.

I had ECS spacers and had no problems with them. Now im on some cheap Ebay spacers and still have no vibration or problem.

The car has 24,000 on it. I used a wire wheel on my drill to clean both of the surfaces but I guess I can do it again...

I just replaced the rear brakes 100 miles ago and it didnt fix anything....

Ill have to take it all apart and try everything again to see what happens...

[Dsobczak]

I had terrible experience with ecs spacers. I would get vibration anywhere above 60mph. Multiple back and fourth with them, they asked me to tighten while the wheel was in the air which I did. I ended up switching over to H&R and no issues. The ecs spacers had terrible tolerances.

Good to know! I in the middle of the back and forth with them and im about to just order up the H&Rs... I ran them on my EVO and never had an issue

[Dsobczak]

do you have a part number for the ones you got?

[SHCKR]

I use off brand 3mm spacers for my V-FF's, and 12/15 mm for my BO rotors, and they get swapped all the time, and I'm yet to experience any vibrations ever. You could always try and order another set, see if that resolves the issue, and return them if it doesn't.

[JimmyS3]

I ran H&R 15mm on my S3 for years no issues and now have EMD 12.5mm on the S4 no issues. Like awdconnor stated make sure everything is clean and torque to proper spec.

[XLR8Performance]

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[AKO]

do you have a part number for the ones you got?

These are the ones I purchased H&R® 2055668SW

[will13k7]

no issues with four sets of ecs spacers, but no manufacturer is perfect. Your wheels could be bent or unbalanced though, spacers exaggerate issues.

[kevinnc]

I feel like these are hit and miss. I put a set of 12.5mm spacers on my car with like 5k miles with perfect wheels/tires. Spacers went on and caused vibrations. After several tries torquing them, cleaning them and and balancing my wheels. Still vibrating. Took them off and cars perfect again. Planning on buying some from another brand soon.


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[Daaavid]

I'm having a great experience with EMD Auto's 12.5mm spacers. No vibration, fitment, or quality issues. It also included 10.9 grade lug bolts in black.

I have two tires on the rear of the car with a road force reading of ~25 and 30~ lbs. each. After adding the spacers, there is no difference in ride quality for what that's worth. I feared that having spacers on the rear would cause the ride to be quite dramatic given the poorly balancing tires, but the car feels exactly the same (as in there is no vibration at all even with those poorly balanced tires).

[DreamTFK]

I put on H&R spacers. A bit more expensive but I have had no issues. 10 on front and 12 on back.