2019 to 2022 RS5 - few things I've noticed

[Burrcold]

A few things I've noticed comparing my B9 2019 RS5 Sportback to my B9.5 2022 RS5 Sportback. Both had basically every option, so really this is purely like for like (from what I've noticed anyways). In no particular order...

1. Dynamic Steering - I really like this option, despite some people not thinking it felt natural. I didn't notice the variable ratios as much in the 2019 but I sure do in the 2022. It feels a little overboosted compared to the 2019 but more precise. The calibration must have changed. Not a huge change but something different for sure.

2. B&O Stereo - I would like to compare the speaker part numbers from year to year, because it sounds quite a bit different. Both are good, but I feel like the 2022 they may have worked out the sound scale a bit more (highs are crisp without ever getting cringy, and the lows seem to be able to get much lower). Definitely an improvement.

3. Exhaust - I'll reserve judgement until it's broken in but it sounds a good bit quieter in the cabin (not a good thing to me). They must be using more sound deadening material in the cabin, because it still sounds good from outside (despite the annoying soft limiter on the 2022).

4. Tires - Not really a year vs year comparison, but my 2019 had Hankook's and the 2022 has Continental. Hands down the Continental's ride more comfortable, quieter, and seemingly more stable. Can't speak to handling much as it's too cold here to test them out. Very impressed though.

5. Suspension - Okay I know The Straight Pipes just did review of the 2022 RS5 and said "it's still too bouncy" in Dynamic. I'm going to say that the suspension changes (no idea what Audi did) are the BIGGEST change to the way the RS5 feels (speaking only DRC not standard fixed suspension). I felt the 2019 was pretty comfortable in Comfort but still firm, and then it just got way too firm for me in Dynamic...even in Auto I found it crashy over expansion joints and pot holes. The 2022 Comfort mode is akin to the adaptive suspension I had in the 2019 S5. It is SO comfortable but totally compliant. Even Dynamic is not overly firm whatsoever, to the point where I think I can daily it in Dynamic unless I have passengers. Basically I've set my RS modes to 1) Everything in Dynamic 2) Everything in Dynamic, suspension in Comfort. I'll probably never use the drive mode selector anymore and just cycle through the two RS modes on the steering wheel.

6. Round Steering Wheel - I had the alcantara flat bottom on the 2019 and now the alcantara round wheel on the 2022. I'm 100% indifferent now and would probably order it the same way even if I had a choice. I think the airbag cover is slightly nicer, and it's nice to have a heated wheel, RS buttons, and the * button all on one wheel. I don't find it too big at all. That being said, I think the alcantara is helping its cause a lot...I don't think I would like the round wheel in leather. It's basically the same, but at least the alcantara makes it feel special.

7. Ceramic Brakes - Not much here other than my 2019 had silver calipers and the 2022 has blue ones. I was a bit hesitant going with blue against Nardo Grey paint, but man oh man are they vibrant and pop! Extremely happy and feels a bit different from all the red calipers I've had on prior Audi's or the silver ones on the 2019 RS5 that just seemed to blend in a little too much. These things look HUGE.

8. MMI - Love the new screens. Big, super crisp, amazing black levels, and a great UI. Don't mind the touch screen at all, however HATE the stupid empty bin on the center console. It's not a matter of just getting a cover for it either, it's the lack of illuminated scroll wheel and buttons at night. When you look down it's just so dark especially against the gloss black plastic. Overall happy but just wish they had left the scroll wheel to have two options of input like BMW has (for now). You also get the new "reverse runway" gauge selection as default in RS mode. I turned it off and went with the hockey stick looking tach.

9. Interior Build Quality - seems like they have ironed out a few areas (obviously they should have over 2-3 years). Everything still feels well put together, but as mentioned above I think they used more sound deadening because it feels a little quieter. Not that there was much wrong with the 2019 at all. One area that I thought was funny that Audi cheaped out on was the cigarette lighter plug things are just plastic now, they don't have the knurled surround that matches all of the rest of the buttons. No big deal, I just bought the old ones and popped them in.

10. Head up Display - I think this is a change from the 2021 models. You can now turn off the stupid lap timer that would come up in the head up display when an RS mode was selected (again I think this only affected the 2022 MY.

That's about all I can think of now. Winter tires are going on in 2 days, and then in for PPF, ceramic coating, and tint.

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[dal59]

There is a lot of good info there. I am just going to comment on no. 5 - the suspension.
I really like the way it is set up and believe every setting does just what its name implies. I love Comfort mode for long trips. Very compliant but not bouncy. Dynamic is a huge difference over Comfort, and I use it when racing.
And Auto seems like a great compromise between the two others, and for me, great for daily driving.

I have my RS Modes set up nearly identical to you.
RS 1 - All in Sport except for suspension which in set as balanced.
RS 2 - All in Sport mode.

[BRH]

I bought a 2021 RS5 Coupe Black Optic Launch Edition in January this year. Spent some time driving a couple of 2019 coupes before deciding to go with the 2021. I agree with all of your comments, although I did not have as much experience with the 2019 as you did. But, I did drive them almost back-to-back.

3 - In cabin exhaust seemed a little bit louder on the 2021 to me. But, marginal.

4 - The BO Launch Edition came with Pirelli PZeros. I really like them. Although, I will probably change to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S when I replace the Pirelli.

5 - I, too, use just the RS button. RS1 is set to Sport on everything except Suspension, which is Balanced. RS2 is set to highest level on everything. Use RS1 around town and RS2 when I hit the mountains or canyons.

6 - Damn, I wish I could make that lap timer go away. At least Audi took care of it on the 2022.

[dal59]

I bought a 2021 RS5 Coupe Black Optic Launch Edition in January this year. Spent some time driving a couple of 2019 coupes before deciding to go with the 2021. I agree with all of your comments, although I did not have as much experience with the 2019 as you did. But, I did drive them almost back-to-back.

3 - In cabin exhaust seemed a little bit louder on the 2021 to me. But, marginal.

4 - The BO Launch Edition came with Pirelli PZeros. I really like them. Although, I will probably change to Michelin Pilot Sport 4S when I replace the Pirelli.

5 - I, too, use just the RS button. RS1 is set to Sport on everything except Suspension, which is Balanced. RS2 is set to highest level on everything. Use RS1 around town and RS2 when I hit the mountains or canyons.

6 - Damn, I wish I could make that lap timer go away. At least Audi took care of it on the 2022.

What do you mean regarding the lap timer? I have to turn mine on if I wanted it, which I do not.

[Burrcold]

What do you mean regarding the lap timer? I have to turn mine on if I wanted it, which I do not.

When you use your RS modes, do you not see a timer 0:00:00 above your speed readout in your heads up display?

[Yeoman]

Beaut!

[Yeoman]

When you use your RS modes, do you not see a timer 0:00:00 above your speed readout in your heads up display?

You can code it out on the '21s to not show when you're in RS mode, but you also lose the oil temp and RPM lights

[dal59]

When you use your RS modes, do you not see a timer 0:00:00 above your speed readout in your heads up display?

Oh, that' the answer. I do not have HUD.

[scott1961]

You can code it out on the '21s to not show when you're in RS mode, but you also lose the oil temp and RPM lights

Yea I coded it out but then went back to it as wanted RPM lights. Am thinking of going back to it but forget how I did it? Can anyone help me find it again?

[Burrcold]

Unfortunately even on the 2022, when you toggle the lap timer off you also don't get the shift lights. So I guess it's the same as coding the 21 models.

Here's a picture of the interior and a few others.


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[Yeoman]

HUD Display Module 82, long coding, change "Laptimer_activated" to "not available".

[Burrcold]

HUD Display Module 82, long coding, change "Laptimer_activated" to "not available".

I'm glad I don't even have to bother with coding at least. I'm not sure who would want that HUGE lap timer, it's ridiculous (it should come toggled off and then if you want to use it, dig into the menus to turn it on).

[scott1961]

HUD Display Module 82, long coding, change "Laptimer_activated" to "not available".

Thanks, I find the shifts lights kind of useless, especially now with my Racechip and Pedalbox, if you're looking at that light you are going to be to late.

[dal59]

Thanks, I find the shifts lights kind of useless, especially now with my Racechip and Pedalbox, if you're looking at that light you are going to be to late.

Pretty difficult to shift better than the ECU / TCU anyway.

[scott1961]

Pretty difficult to shift better than the ECU / TCU anyway.

If I'm doing pulls against someone or trying to get my best time I do in Auto, but for most of my driving I prefer to shift myself

[Burrcold]

HUD Display Module 82, long coding, change "Laptimer_activated" to "not available".

I know nothing about coding (VAGCOM or OBD11). Is this difficult to do? Even though my 2022 has a toggle switch to "not activate RS mode" in the HUD settings, it only turns the lap timer off until you restart the car and it reverts back to the lap timer in the RS modes. I hate it and I guess it's back to the coding option. Is it as simple as buying a VAGCOM or OBD11 and using the app?

[Yeoman]

I know nothing about coding (VAGCOM or OBD11). Is this difficult to do? Even though my 2022 has a toggle switch to "not activate RS mode" in the HUD settings, it only turns the lap timer off until you restart the car and it reverts back to the lap timer in the RS modes. I hate it and I guess it's back to the coding option. Is it as simple as buying a VAGCOM or OBD11 and using the app?

yup! Opens the door to quite a few other modifications, as well.

[scott1961]

I have both vagcom and OBD11 and just did this with OBD1, but went right back to having lap timer showing. I remember now why I went back first time I changed, when you remove the lap timer only thing that shows up is speed, I don't mind losing oil temp but I like seeing what gear I'm in and like when it lights orange when in manual mode

[ywang98]

When I got my 2021, the CC brakes weren't available as an option. So, they put it back.

[Burrcold]

I have both vagcom and OBD11 and just did this with OBD1, but went right back to having lap timer showing. I remember now why I went back first time I changed, when you remove the lap timer only thing that shows up is speed, I don't mind losing oil temp but I like seeing what gear I'm in and like when it lights orange when in manual mode

The only thing I don't like when the lap timer is on in the HUD is that your speed limit signs, and drivers assistance (lane keep, and adaptive cruise) don't show up...I'm assuming because the stupid lap timer is so huge and takes up everything.

I just ordered the OBDeleven Pro Ultimate Edition (not sure what the difference between any of them are). It should arrive from Amazon tomorrow. Hopefully I can figure it out lol

[scott1961]

The only thing I don't like when the lap timer is on in the HUD is that your speed limit signs, and drivers assistance (lane keep, and adaptive cruise) don't show up...I'm assuming because the stupid lap timer is so huge and takes up everything.

I'm not sure if those things even show up when my lap timer is off? Guess I would need to drive car to find out

[Burrcold]

I'm not sure if those things even show up when my lap timer is off? Guess I would need to drive car to find out

Oh well even if they don't, I'd be happy with just the digital speed readout. I know when I switch out of the RS modes, all those things show up so I'm pretty hopeful (or else I just wasted $150 lol...I guess they are good to have regardless).

[Burrcold]

I'm not sure if those things even show up when my lap timer is off? Guess I would need to drive car to find out

Got the OBDeleven and was able to turn the lap timer off in the HUD. You are right that you lose the oil temp and rpm gauge, but everything else works still (speed, traffic signs, lane keep assist, adaptive cruise control settings). Thanks for sharing, this little tool is going to be addictive!

[Burrcold]

Finally back from the detailing shop. They did a fantastic job and tucked every edge of the ppf (can't even tell it's there). Xpel ceramic tint in 20%, full front end Xpel paint protection film (bumper, hood, lights, fenders, mirrors, side skirts, all the black bits), and full ceramic coating inside and out, and calipers/wheels. Unfortunately stupid winter wheels ruin the look but what can you do.

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[Bezlar]

Looks great. Winter wheels and all.


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[Bezlar]

Also could you not find any better of a shit box to store your car in. Those other cars in your photos bring the whole thing down. Lol


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[Burrcold]

Also could you not find any better of a shit box to store your car in. Those other cars in your photos bring the whole thing down. Lol


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Haha I know right? Couldn't wait to get out of there ugh :D

[bimmrrguy2002]

Looks Beautiful, can’t wait till mine comes.


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[Smac770]

On the B&O sound system, the only change in the speakers is the front door woofer rolled to a new revision starting Nov 25 '19 (so mid MY20 production run). Could just be a supplier change; who knows.

But for the amplifier, it's a completely different part number for B9.0 (8W0 035 465) vs B9.5 (8Y0 035 465, now replaced by 8Y0 035 465A). Type 8Y is the Mk4 A3. Could be nothing more than a roll to a MIB3 compatible unit. Even if the amplifier was still the same part, they could have done an endless number of changes in the DSP tuning. But it's interesting that the J525 amp is only used for half the channels in MIB3. In MIB2 B&O, the J525 had 16 channels driving 19 speakers (two channels driving the dual voice coil (?) subwoofer). In MIB3 B&O, the J525 is only used for 8 channels to drive 9 speakers (two channels driving the DVC sub). The other eight channels to drive the other 10 speakers are in the MIB3 J794. Odd, as the same J525 part number is used in the Mk4 A3 with all 16 channels driven. I wonder if it's bridgeable and they paired all the channels for more power, using the otherwise unused channels in the J794 to fill the gaps. The J525 drives the sub and all four door woofers.

Well, they certainly didn't sit idle on the audio setup when they moved to MIB3.

[Burrcold]

Well, they certainly didn't sit idle on the audio setup when they moved to MIB3.

I'm certainly happy they didn't sit idle because it makes a marked improvement over a decent (but not near perfect) first execution in the B9.

[Smac770]

Looking up something else, I ran across this statement in a TSB re the B&O system. If one of the front door woofers needs to be replaced, which now there is only the new A rev version available:

Due to the differences between the updated woofer and the original woofer it is not permissible to have unmatched woofer between doors. Therefore, replace the affected woofer in both the left and right front doors.

So apparently something pretty significant was changed regarding those front door midbass drivers starting late Nov '19.

[Burrcold]

Looking up something else, I ran across this statement in a TSB re the B&O system. If one of the front door woofers needs to be replaced, which now there is only the new A rev version available:



So apparently something pretty significant was changed regarding those front door midbass drivers starting late Nov '19.

Makes sense. Wouldn't late Nov. 2019 be roughly the start of the B9.5 (2020) models with the "revised" B&O system? That could be the reason for the significant change.

[Smac770]

Normally model year transition is around May, but 2019 turned into such a cluster, maybe MY20 SOP got pushed back to then. I wasn't really following back at that time.

So whether it was a planned part of the MIB3 facelift overhaul or just a supplier roll, no idea. But while different enough from the original that Audi didn't want mixed installations, it wasn't different enough that the J525 needed any kind of update to accommodate the speaker change. Or the change was improvement to the output profile and didn't need any accommodation in the signal processing. Who can know.

[drewes112]

Center console

For those who have taken delivery of 2022 RS5, does the center console compartment where the Infotainment rotary dial used to be have a cover now, or is it still just an open compartment? Asking about the U.S. edition specifically.


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[Burrcold]

Center console

For those who have taken delivery of 2022 RS5, does the center console compartment where the Infotainment rotary dial used to be have a cover now, or is it still just an open compartment? Asking about the U.S. edition specifically.


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See post #10 I posted a picture of my interior. It still comes with the open compartment (no lid).

[drewes112]

See post #10 I posted a picture of my interior. It still comes with the open compartment (no lid).

That’s the worst…


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[Bezlar]

That’s the worst…


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It’s perfect for holding your drink while you put your seat belt on. Or to hold your small bottle of hand sanitizer.


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[Burrcold]

That’s the worst…


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I don't mind it. But you can always buy the cubby with the lid if it bothers you a lot.

[drewes112]

I don't mind it. But you can always buy the cubby with the lid if it bothers you a lot.

I thought I read installing the one with the lid required removing the entire center console. Has anyone done it?


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[Burrcold]

I thought I read installing the one with the lid required removing the entire center console. Has anyone done it?


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You doing have to unclip the center console tunnel, but there are videos that show you how to do it (doesn't look hard). I just don't care enough to do it.