Pedal commander

[REDa3STALLION]

Installed a pedal commander in my car today and what a huge difference it makes but even worse for the mpg I'm sure. Anyone have anything to say about the pedal commander good or bad ? I'm not sure it's worth $275 Screenshot_20211218-185734_Pedal%20Commander.jpg

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[TheMysticWizard]

Would be better to put that $275 toward a real tune

[zcspec]

I would rather use BMS's Pedal Box Tuner; it's cheaper. All these devices use the same principle; interception of the throttle input and reducing it. Does it work, absolutely. Will it make your driving experience more enjoyable? That's personal preference.

Here is a review I did a while back.
https://youtu.be/JIbjBWAzLG4

[Spinnetti]

I'm a bit of a doubter about these, but just ordered the BMS one to try out. All the brands do the same thing, and the BMS one is a lot cheaper at $179. The stock throttle delay prevents any sort of accurate performance driving so its worth a try! (and I'm already stage II - tunes don't change the pedal response)

[MetalMan]

(and I'm already stage II - tunes don't change the pedal response)

Tunes should have full control over the pedal mapping. I recently switched from a JB4 (no throttle intervention) to EQT Stage 1 via Accessport and the throttle response feels different.

[Darepoole]

Installed a pedal commander in my car today and what a huge difference it makes but even worse for the mpg I'm sure. Anyone have anything to say about the pedal commander good or bad ? I'm not sure it's worth $275 Screenshot_20211218-185734_Pedal%20Commander.jpg

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all the pedal boxes simply intercept the throttle signal and change the throttle curve. For example if you press the throttle down 50% the box would tell your ECU the throttle was pressed down 70%. This isn’t the actual numbers but its the same process that occurs the throttle curve is steeper. Them saying that the product decreases throttle response is bs. It’s simply placebo due to the fact that the requested throttle input is always made greater via the box by lying to the ecu. If anything the actual latency of the signal is hypothetically more since the signal goes through more processing. The only real benefit of these I see if for gas mileage saving. I know some of them have eco modes which does the opposite to what I was saying before it just tells the ecu less throttle input was requested than actual. I gotta give it to these companies though good marketing goes a long way lol.


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[Spinnetti]

all the pedal boxes simply intercept the throttle signal and change the throttle curve. For example if you press the throttle down 50% the box would tell your ECU the throttle was pressed down 70%. This isn’t the actual numbers but its the same process that occurs the throttle curve is steeper. Them saying that the product decreases throttle response is bs. It’s simply placebo due to the fact that the requested throttle input is always made greater via the box by lying to the ecu. If anything the actual latency of the signal is hypothetically more since the signal goes through more processing. The only real benefit of these I see if for gas mileage saving. I know some of them have eco modes which does the opposite to what I was saying before it just tells the ecu less throttle input was requested than actual. I gotta give it to these companies though good marketing goes a long way lol.


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not quite.... This thing isn't to make your car any faster, it just makes it it more responsive and gets rid of the delay to your inputs, but its not placebo. Factory software "softens" the throttle inputs for a smoother driving experience, and to prevent abrupt changes with throttle inputs... The JB4 might do this, but I don't think any other tune does. These boxes just take out the software delay to one degree or another, with the most "extreme" simply instant, direct control like you would have with a cable. The sprint booster video illustrates this quite well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u7l...=PureAutoParts

[Darepoole]

not quite.... its intentional software delay by the mfgs... these boxes just take out the software delay to one degree or another, with the most "extreme" simply instant, direct control like you would have with a cable. The sprint booster video illustrates this quite well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u7l...=PureAutoParts

This thing isn't to make your car any faster, it just makes it it more responsive and gets rid of the delay to your inputs, but its not placebo.

I never said it was for making the car faster. Also I’m not an expect just discussing. Yes manufactures use software delays but since this is intercepting the signal as sort of a middle man. The only way It can reduce the lag is by increasing the throttle response input compared to the requested and in turn making the user feel like the throttle response is quicker. It’s not like it makes the signal get to the ecu faster. I’m sure in turn it makes the throttle feel more responsive but for the price I feel like why not just invest in a tune. If these really made the throttle response quicker wouldn’t drag cars running stock ecu’s run these things? I guess technically in a pushing down the throttle all the way scenario the ecu will see 100% throttle prior to your foot being all the way down since your foot can only move so fast.

Edit: I’d imagine an after affect of these is the pedal would lose its resolution aka narrower.


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[Eli0073]

I've been running the XLR from racechip over yr now. Even with tune the throttle Response and reaction was disgusting and annoying to my particular taste specially in comfort and auto. I like my gas pedal just like my motorcycles throttles with zero play in it. Just like a on and off switch. The XLR solve that issue. So I do recommend this type of product. It does a great job on making throttle response more sharp and faster and eliminate throttle lag that Audi set's from factory.

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[ghall]

I would rather use BMS's Pedal Box Tuner; it's cheaper. All these devices use the same principle; interception of the throttle input and reducing it. Does it work, absolutely. Will it make your driving experience more enjoyable? That's personal preference.

Here is a review I did a while back.
https://youtu.be/JIbjBWAzLG4

Nice review. Seems like a useful product. My S3 has the slowest pedal response of any car i have owned, reall don't like it.

[Spinnetti]

Got mine yesterday. Took seconds to install, but cramming my 6'2" frame under the dash to do it was no joy. It does as advertised on the tin. I guess you could say stock response is like turbo lag, and this very much reduces it. Its not night and day, but it does make a difference in response - I set it to the maximum value. For me, its a bit hard to describe, but when driving at the limit, mid corner, tiny throttle corrections are what allow me to maintain my line and the stock setup is just too laggy for the to be possible so this provides a more linear response and less pedal push. For the cost, I'd say its worth it but I'd prefer a "set it and forget it" box with 1:1 pedal to throttle and not have the dangling cord which I don't like at all; I'll have to loop up the cable and stuff it up under the dash somewhere I suppose. I'd pay 2x to have it be a tiny module that plugs between the cable and pedal and works over bluetooth to an iOS app. Another thing that would be useful is to have it be variable by mode - comfort, sport kind of thing or only be on in sport mode. When my wife drives it, I hope she doesn't wreck it.