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    Which tune are you running?

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    So since i got my IE dongle just last year and theyre requiring the purchase of a v4 to tune the B9, I'm not doing business with them again - to me that is trash, whether my opinion on that is right or wrong, i think it's bush league to not offer a firmware update on their end for people that just bought the V3.

    Id like to get a tune while theyre all offering black friday deals.

    Which tune are you guys running? I'm looking at the 034.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 98A4TurboAWD View Post
    So since i got my IE dongle just last year and theyre requiring the purchase of a v4 to tune the B9, I'm not doing business with them again - to me that is trash, whether my opinion on that is right or wrong, i think it's bush league to not offer a firmware update on their end for people that just bought the V3.

    Id like to get a tune while theyre all offering black friday deals.

    Which tune are you guys running? I'm looking at the 034.

    Experiences and recommendations are appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crhh95 View Post
    EPL, great and quick customer service, opportunity for beta testing, plethora of options with (subjectively speaking) some of the best performance, and some killer Black Friday deals right now


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    Thanks for the kind words!

    To the OP, we rent cables if you’re not interested in purchasing one!

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    Order a Tactrix Openport 2.0 Cable from AliExpress - about $20. Will likely work with the majority of tuning companies' software.
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    I’m running IE full tcu and ecu currently. I have 0 complaints. It runs super strong. I can understand your irritation about the cable. I am a bit irritated with IE that they charge an “upgrade” to “stage 2” to essentially turn a light off for aftermarket down pipes and give you crackles. No performance increases. It’s just weird.

    I bought a 034 cable previously but they screwed up my tune order previously and I went with IE instead.

    That said I just took advantage of switch over pricing and will give 034 another shot. FOMO I guess.

    I feel like there is only 3 companies who have continued development for the platform. EPL , 034 and IE. The rest tuned and ran.

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    I 2nd EPL, couldnt be happier with the reliability, performance, and best of all....

    Tony and Chris go above and beyond, even after work hours. It feels like they are a 24 hour customer support center.

    They are also pushing out updates left and right, and to add to everything all updates are included.


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    I can't say I've run EPL for comparison but I do hear great things. That said, I'm extremely happy with the 034 tune I have and the company as a whole. The tune does everything I could possibly want it to do and it does it well and smoothly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony@EPL View Post
    Thanks for the kind words!

    To the OP, we rent cables if you’re not interested in purchasing one!
    Hey Tony, where can i view the details of your tune? Does yours include the RS style start up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98A4TurboAWD View Post
    Hey Tony, where can i view the details of your tune? Does yours include the RS style start up?
    There's an EPL thread on here, they don't have a website to view those details unfortunately.

    By RS start up do you mean sweeping dash? If so, you can change that using VCDS / Carista / OBD11, that isn't changed by a tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AldermanToffee View Post
    There's an EPL thread on here, they don't have a website to view those details unfortunately.

    By RS start up do you mean sweeping dash? If so, you can change that using VCDS / Carista / OBD11, that isn't changed by a tune.
    Care to share how to so that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 98A4TurboAWD View Post
    Hey Tony, where can i view the details of your tune? Does yours include the RS style start up?
    Currently no RS start up, but we are getting enough requests for it that I will put it on my list of things to look further into.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oxxomxxo View Post
    Care to share how to so that?


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    Carista is probably your cheapest option. I use it. You can enable all sorts of changes in the MMI system even developer screens. There are 11 different startup screens to change the look as well make the gauges sweep. You can turn off DRLs, turn off seat belt chimes, turn off the Auto start/stop function ect. Ive heard VCDS has a few more options, but Carista is pretty inexpensive. I borrowed the bluetooth dongle from a buddy and subscribed to carista ....its $10 per month cancel anytime. So take a month to make your changes and then cancel the subscription. Re-up anytime you want to go back in. The dongle is universal so its not licensed per car.
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    The RS start up is an initial rev on start.

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    Now is the perfect time to get tuned with 034Motorsport! We're offering 10% off MSRP on our world-class calibrations for the B9 & B9.5 EA839 thru 12/6!

    We're not out here to make the fastest tune, but rather one that perfectly balances drivability, usability, and performance as well as features. Our Dynamic+ Tuning has support for Stage 1 (Stock Hardware), Stage 2 (Upgraded Catalyst System), and we are actively developing a tune for the TTE710 and Pure750 hybrid turbos. We take pride in serving the needs of our customers and actively take feedback to improve upon and add additional features to our tuning. We offer 91 octane, 93 octane, and a full E85 file, readily available for flashing on Stage 1 & Stage 2! This means no mixing at the pump! Additionally, we are actively developing hardware to support full E85 on hybrid turbo vehicles.

    While many tuners can achieve great power figures that look impressive on a dyno sheet or a webpage, the key to a truly substantive and transformative software upgrade lies in the strategies employed to make power efficiently and safely. 034Motorsport Dynamic+ Software strives to retain as many OEM safety protocols as possible, and holistically recalibrate the entirety of the ECU and TCU to create what we call the Dynamic+ experience.

    034Motorsport engineers develop special in-house tools that allow us to access the firmware and maps inside the factory ECU. This level of engineering is required to prevent workarounds and bandaids that many aftermarket companies resort to. 034Motorsport optimizes the ECU calibrations just like Audi engineers would, accessing the source of how the ECU controls the engine and making changes at the base level.

    This is the only way 034Motorsport can ensure our calibrations meet our industry-leading standards for delivering ultimate power with unrivaled drivability, uncompromised reliability, and enhanced features and functionality beyond what is provided in the factory calibration.

    Some of our customers are running deep 11's on their cars with our Stage 2 ECU E85 tune and TCU tune which only raises the torque limit! Our full-featured Stage 2 TCU tune will be available soon! We also do have RS-Style Startup enabled :)



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    Quote Originally Posted by SHCKR View Post
    EPL FTW
    Quote Originally Posted by kifac View Post
    +1 for EPL
    Thanks guys!!

    In case the original poster (or anyone else read) didn't know. We were the first tuner in the world to offer:

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    The first and only US tuner to offer:
    -4 bar map sensor tunes
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    Its safe to say we have put the time into this platform and have things to offer no one else can and much much more in the works.



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    I've been running EPL and will continue running EPL. They have let their tune (and customer service) speak for itself. The only other tuner I would consider for this platform is IE, for similar reasons to why I run EPL. Put simply, some vendors LOVE talking about competitors and even talking DOWN about competitors. Neither EPL or IE have done that from what I've seen so it makes it easy to support them.


    Quote Originally Posted by 034Motorsport View Post
    We're not out here to make the fastest tune, but rather one that perfectly balances drivability, usability, and performance as well as features.
    This is rich coming from "Stock turbo record holder" using a hot boi file not available to customers and a completely stripped car you claimed was stripped down in 30 min that you've used to market for this platform. Do better...for once...and stop being predatory/aggressive with other companies.

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    Love my 034 stage 2 tune. Smooth as stock but MUCH more oomph.

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    Thanks, everyone.

    I went with the EPL. I'll be sure to share my thoughts when it arrives.

    Let's all get Chris to add that RS Startup to an update
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    Quote Originally Posted by 98A4TurboAWD View Post
    Thanks, everyone.

    I went with the EPL. I'll be sure to share my thoughts when it arrives.

    Let's all get Chris to add that RS Startup to an update
    Welcome!

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    034 here and couldn't ask for anything better.

    Quote Originally Posted by jdel View Post
    This is rich coming from "Stock turbo record holder" using a hot boi file not available to customers and a completely stripped car you claimed was stripped down in 30 min that you've used to market for this platform. Do better...for once...and stop being predatory/aggressive with other companies.
    It was using a release version of the ECU tune and a beta TCU tune (which will be released soon), but go off king. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by INS4NE_B9
    It was using a release version of the ECU tune and a beta TCU tune (which will be released soon), but go off king. ;-)
    Yeah, I felt his reply was a little over the top too! LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by INS4NE_B9 View Post
    034 here and couldn't ask for anything better.



    It was using a release version of the ECU tune and a beta TCU tune (which will be released soon), but go off king. ;-)
    😂😂

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    EPL since 11/30/2020. I just happened to look up my purchase date when I saw this thread ha. That was some interesting timing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INS4NE_B9 View Post
    034 here and couldn't ask for anything better.



    It was using a release version of the ECU tune and a beta TCU tune (which will be released soon), but go off king. ;-)
    Good luck if that's what you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdel View Post
    Good luck if that's what you think
    What info do you have that disproves his belief? I'm just curious because you came in so hot and heavy... do you have actual information to share or do you just like spouting off?? If you have something informative to add I'm sure people would appreciate hearing it, but what I'm seeing from you looks to be your opinion. The whole fanboy thing (and die hard brand hater stuff) gets old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K1196A View Post
    What info do you have that disproves his belief? I'm just curious because you came in so hot and heavy... do you have actual information to share or do you just like spouting off?? If you have something informative to add I'm sure people would appreciate hearing it, but what I'm seeing from you looks to be your opinion. The whole fanboy thing (and die hard brand hater stuff) gets old.
    Look at customer cars and compare times...not sure why people aren't doing their own due diligence and just believing the marketing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdel
    This is rich coming from "Stock turbo record holder" using a hot boi file not available to customers and a completely stripped car you claimed was stripped down in 30 min that you've used to market for this platform. Do better...for once...and stop being predatory/aggressive with other companies..
    There's a lot of accusation and sass here... I'm just wondering what your foundation for such a statement is. It's not a due diligence issue... it just comes off sounding like 034 was hooking up your sister and did her dirty or something. It seems personal.

    Oh well... you do you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdel View Post
    Look at customer cars and compare times...not sure why people aren't doing their own due diligence and just believing the marketing.
    Our Record Run was done with entirely Public Stage 2 R2.0 ECU tuning and our upcoming Stage 2 TCU tune that is imminently released, no "hot tune" as you called it.

    Our customers running completely public files are #2 and #3 for the fastest and quickest S4s and S5s on stock turbo, with less overall modification. We are confident that with the release of our Stage 2 TCU, many of our customers will join us in the world of 10-second 1/4 mile times.

    You certainly do not have to believe us when we say we're running public files, but it certainly would not benefit us to falsify a run with non-production files as we feel it is important that our customers be able to perform the same as us.

    Feel free to review the public leaderboard for more info: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdel View Post
    Good luck if that's what you think
    Don't worry, I'm not thinking. I know it for a fact. ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by jdel View Post
    Look at customer cars and compare times...not sure why people aren't doing their own due diligence and just believing the marketing.
    Somebody hasn't checked the leaderboards lately.

    A customer car ran 11.13 on street tires with a stock intercooler and without a full TCU tune.

    Quote Originally Posted by K1196A View Post
    There's a lot of accusation and sass here... I'm just wondering what your foundation for such a statement is. It's not a due diligence issue... it just comes off sounding like 034 was hooking up your sister and did her dirty or something. It seems personal.

    Oh well... you do you.
    Jealousy is difficult for some people to manage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INS4NE_B9 View Post
    Don't worry, I'm not thinking. I know it for a fact. ;-)



    Somebody hasn't checked the leaderboards lately.

    A customer car ran 11.13 on street tires with a stock intercooler and without a full TCU tune.



    Jealousy is difficult for some people to manage.
    Jealous of what?

    You are saying "a customer car ran 11.13 on street tires and stock intercooler" as if that's a qualification of anything. It's your money, throw it where you want, but doesn't mean other people have to have the same opinion as you. Only reason you are responding to me is because you are mad that I pointed out the hypocrisy of a company you are a fanboy of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by INS4NE_B9 View Post
    Don't worry, I'm not thinking. I know it for a fact. ;-)



    Somebody hasn't checked the leaderboards lately.

    A customer car ran 11.13 on street tires with a stock intercooler and without a full TCU tune.



    Jealousy is difficult for some people to manage.
    I personally think this argument is dumb, however to be fair those customer cars ran at 11.13 had weight reduction as well so do with that info what you will


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    Quote Originally Posted by jdel View Post
    Jealous of what?

    You are saying "a customer car ran 11.13 on street tires and stock intercooler" as if that's a qualification of anything. It's your money, throw it where you want, but doesn't mean other people have to have the same opinion as you. Only reason you are responding to me is because you are mad that I pointed out the hypocrisy of a company you are a fanboy of.
    I would encourage you to read through your own comments.

    You said, "It was a hot tune." It was not.

    You said, "Look at customer cars and compare times." All factors considered, there is a near identical run.

    I don't expect people to have the same opinion as me. What I do expect is for people to be truthful, which you clearly are not.

    Run whatever tune you want want, but don't lie about another company to make you feel better about your choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crhh95 View Post
    I personally think this argument is dumb, however to be fair those customer cars ran at 11.13 had weight reduction as well so do with that info what you will


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    That only validates my point further.

    Tuner wars are dumb, yes. But this guy is just flat-out lying about another company to sway other's opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INS4NE_B9 View Post
    I would encourage you to read through your own comments.

    You said, "It was a hot tune." It was not.

    You said, "Look at customer cars and compare times." All factors considered, there is a near identical run.

    I don't expect people to have the same opinion as me. What I do expect is for people to be truthful, which you are not.

    Run whatever tune you want want, but don't lie about another company to make you feel better about your choice.
    Ah yes, over 3 tenths is "near identical" even with weight reduction lmao.

    I haven't lied once and I'm not "making myself feel better" about any choice. You are free to be oblivious, but just remember, 034 doesn't give a shit about you even if you fanboy for them. You are just a dollar in their eyes :)

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