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    Established Member Two Rings Bardok84's Avatar
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    - C7 owners [[ Virtual Cockpit ]] --- RSNAV

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    As a dream comes through...

    RSNAV is behind this amazing Project.

    Virtual Cockpit for C7 Cars.
    As there are three different motherboard chipset from Audi, they are checking all compatibility and way to install everything successfuly.

    The BEST is The price ...680€ , (34% off disccount)

    https://youtu.be/LSgGircpSGM


    However... This is a crowfunding Project from indiegogo...

    To make It possible , RSNaV needs about 250 preorder units...(around 200.000€ ) and by The way there are only 12 backers...

    To help them , here you have the link:

    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a...ent-cluster--2

    Being honest, if they had a more definitive Advanced version to show it in reality, they would get so much preorders and future orders...

    I would really like seeing them finishing this Project, everyone can take it for granted that C7 car owners would update and improve their old displays to these astonishing 10.25" digital screen virtual cockpit speedometer.

    Lets see what happen in The future. Even if The crowfunding does not rise Up the expected backers, RSNAK must keep going and bring us this dream to reality regardless of its nature.

    Kind regards
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    Veteran Member Four Rings Audisthesia's Avatar
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    Bump and subbed. Pretty slick.
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    This is very interesting... 2 questions I'd have though is mileage and component security.
    Does mileage live in the ecm so it will be pushed to the dash cluster or is it stored in the oem cluster and we would need to either have it programmed or have something stating that it had xxx miles when replaced? I know when I upgraded to a color dash in my old B8 A4 the mileage was stored in the cluster so I had to have it programmed.
    Then the security issue, will there be a work around made in the software in the cluster? Again with my B8 I could switch clusters and it would still run fine but the screen would be blank other than the security warning.

    Besides that though this is pretty sharp, definitely on my radar.

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    Dont worry,

    Most likely the install will be like for the rest of the VAG group.
    Moving the existing original cluster PCB to the new housing with the 10.25 display.
    In other words the new cluster will piggyback to old one and then no programming will be needed.
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    That would make sense. It seemed like it was a complete unit, just drop in and go, since that detail wasn't mentioned. A simple movement of a board wouldn't be that bad to do at all.

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    To answer all your questions

    I Will copy/paste the official main information provided by RSNAV itself:


    Some detailed information about the project(findings)
    - It is possible to integrate 10.25" screen for C7, 7.5, D4, and 8.8" screen for B8, B8.5 clusters. The panels has to be sunlight readable.

    - Original speedometer mainboard has to be kept for immobilizer and etc. It is possible to layer up the original mainboard + control board for the lcd screen.

    - There are at least 3 different factory original screen panels for C7 and two monochrome screens and one color screen for B8, B8.5. In order to keep factory original dashboard screen information such as mileage current speed, current consumption, etc, it is absolutely required to decode screen signals, and overlay it over Linux based tacho interface.This is mandatory for C7, D4 with night vision since the night vision images cannot be hijacked in the middle. Furthermore, there are one challenges for each platform.

    For C7, the older JDI 7" display with TX18D29VM0AAA model number, there is no longer any information about it kept even with the factory(KOE, JDI) so video signal interpretation for this has to be trial and error method. Early C7 car’s dashboard comes with this display. AUO 7" is already decoded, and facelifts uses LVDS so it won’t be hard to decode. But the JDI one would be time consuming.
    For B8.5 speedometer, the magneti marelli made color screen need to be analyzed further if it can be removed or not. If it cannot be removed then the dashboard cluster has to come forward even more.

    - For C7 and D4, there is only one mould so the cost of manufacturing new moulding that can hold larger LCD display is minimal. Approx 10,000$ and can be ready in 80 days.
    For B8, there are 7 different shape of the speedometer and except a few B8.5, at least there has to be 5 different plastic mould tooling required so that the new cluster can be fit with the existing factory trim surrounding the speedometer. 5 different moulding would cost approx. 5~70,000$ and can be ready in 100 days.

    - Hardware and UI based on Linux and QT platform would require about 100,000$ budget with 300 days to develop.

    Thus approximately at least 160,000$ to 200,000$ fundraising is required.

    - Installation is not simple drop in. It requires some soldering skills to remove needle motors from the original speedometer mainboards.

    - Features like rear camera, front camera, hdmi input can be integrated too as well as carplay and android auto. However, to handle multiple video sources a good image processor with at least 4 digital inputs, it would require to use high end automotive video chips from Renesas, but currently Renesas chip supply is extremely unstable.

    So considering this and that the time frame to develop this kind of device is about an year at least and budget goal is 200,000$. In order to keep the price under 1,000$ there has to be at least 200 reservations that cannot be refunded in the middle. assuming at least 30% of people will drop from the fundraising for whatever reason so the minimum first batch reservation has to be over 250


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    The installation is not a problem definitely, keeping the original cluster.

    The biggest obstacle/challenge to face here is the quantity of preorders/barkers needed....

    250 units...It is too much. We have to contribute them all the money beforehand to ensure the future production.

    I think that RSNAV should believe in this Project even The crowfunding does not reach the goal proposed.


    There is no Virtual cockpit for C7 Cars... And there are Many owners hoping, wishing It from long time ago.


    Seals could rise up sharply as S2/ S3 screens did.

    It is just my opinion

    Regards

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    I love this so much! I might have to throw some cash in for this.
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    Exactly,original PCB will go to virtual cockpit housing.
    So mileage and Component protection will be intact.
    Immobilizer in MLB cars in somewhere else,it is not in dashboard so no problems there either.

    AUO vs Hitachi will also be no problem as second hand clusters can be adapted easily if someone has ODIS access and they are quite cheap nowadays.

    I might be interested to import these to my country.
    Who is the producer,where to contact?
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    Whatsapp : wa.me/381653086899
    Telegram : https://t.me/simaservis1108
    Phone Number : +381653086899

    MHI2 / MIB2 / MMI 4G
    Maps update / firmware update / Android Auto / Carplay

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    Veteran Member Four Rings Audisthesia's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sima-Koya View Post
    Exactly,original PCB will go to virtual cockpit housing.
    So mileage and Component protection will be intact.
    Immobilizer in MLB cars in somewhere else,it is not in dashboard so no problems there either.

    AUO vs Hitachi will also be no problem as second hand clusters can be adapted easily if someone has ODIS access and they are quite cheap nowadays.

    I might be interested to import these to my country.
    Who is the producer,where to contact?
    That info is in the first post.
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    Sima-Koya

    If you click on The link provided above you can enter and participate in The Indiegogo Crowfunding with RSNAV

    Also you can check more info on The RSNAV website itself , there you can see The whole collection of infotainment devides they offer.

    Daniel Kim is the leader, the engineer behind these products, with his team help obviously.

    In YouTube you can also check their official channel.

    By Now, there are only 14 units preordered...It is so few backers (being The goal proposed around 200)

    Anyway, Hope is The last thing you lose.


    Regards !!

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    I am very interested in this, especially if it functions like the OEM virtual cockpit. Definitely tracking!

    My question (and perhaps Sima has an answer) is that I updated my 2016 to have the Android Auto through Sima so not technically stock MMI. How would the compatibility work with these units?
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    Quote Originally Posted by christianb5s4 View Post
    I am very interested in this, especially if it functions like the OEM virtual cockpit. Definitely tracking!

    My question (and perhaps Sima has an answer) is that I updated my 2016 to have the Android Auto through Sima so not technically stock MMI. How would the compatibility work with these units?
    That would have no effect on this.
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    Part of me loves the actual gauges that the car has. Another part of me likes this.... lol
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    One thing I'm curious about... Looking at the demo video, it's all operated by touchscreen. Seems to me that could get dangerous trying to touch the gauge cluster behind the steering wheel while driving. A demo with a steering wheel in front of this cluster would give us a better idea of if this is a real problem vs a perceived problem.
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    Only 15 backers so far. Doesn't seem like this will get off the ground...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audisthesia View Post
    Only 15 backers so far. Doesn't seem like this will get off the ground...
    I would be more interested if it were more of a hybrid. I like my actual gauges, but would like the center screen to be better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sepheroth86 View Post
    I would be more interested if it were more of a hybrid. I like my actual gauges, but would like the center screen to be better.
    you are looking for something like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...11230015%22%7D it gives you av inputs for the middle screen as well as phone mirroring

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    This is something that I always wanted so might also shell some gold at it.. there’s not many backers right now, unfortunately.

    Personally I am not a big fan of the sentence “ Once the production begins, the fund cannot be refunded in the original payment, but maybe credited as RSNAV.com gift card.”

    Like, “maybe a gift card” sounds a little strange to me :D

    Have to think about it but I am thrilled about it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff351 View Post
    you are looking for something like this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000...11230015%22%7D it gives you av inputs for the middle screen as well as phone mirroring
    That's a really cool idea. One complaint I have about integrating Android Auto/Carplay into these cars is that it doesn't also extend to the cluster.
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    Hello Guys

    Any update to this project or similar ?
    I have Audi A7 2016 C7.5 and would love to see VC in it

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