Audi Pre Sense, helpful or DANGEROUS?

[Nsd991]

I get what Audi pre sense is designed to do. However for me it has had the opposite effect. Yesterday while trying to turn onto a road a car was approaching on my left and beginning it’s turn onto the side street I was on. I began to make my way onto the main road, Audi pre sense confused this with me performing a dangerous maneuver and slammed on the break while I’m in the middle of entering the main road and the car behind me that was performed the same maneuver behind me and luckily avoided me. This is the second time I’ve had a scare with this technology. Both times I was driving carefully and not putting the car in a dangerous situation. Anyone else have similar experiences?

[Jimminez@Nemesis]

Yes, same thing happened to me with but was in my Q7 with entire family. For me I was in the center lane looking to turn left and car felt I was turning too soon as vehicle passed. Turned off the left turn feature and did so at delivery for the RS6.

[GR8VTen]

I get what Audi pre sense is designed to do. However for me it has had the opposite effect. Yesterday while trying to turn onto a road a car was approaching on my left and beginning it’s turn onto the side street I was on. I began to make my way onto the main road, Audi pre sense confused this with me performing a dangerous maneuver and slammed on the break while I’m in the middle of entering the main road and the car behind me that was performed the same maneuver behind me and luckily avoided me. This is the second time I’ve had a scare with this technology. Both times I was driving carefully and not putting the car in a dangerous situation. Anyone else have similar experiences?

Yes this has happened to me twice and scared the living feces out of me, fortunately both were at rolling speeds but it felt like someone had taken a 2x4 to my head with the surprise. Both situations were when I needed to roll forward at an intersection to look beyond parked cars, both occasions I had a car trailing me thinking I was having a senior moment.

I'd expand this question to 'Is Stop/Start helpful of dangerous'? How many times have people been at an intersection when the darn engine has switched off the precise moment I need to give it gas only to have to restart? I'd love to disable permanently stop/start rather than trying to remember every time I get into the car at the console.

[TFarrell]

yes, glad someone said this. This happened to me twice now. I believe it turns off when you go into rs2 mode, correct?

I also highly dislike when the cruise control is on and Im around 80mph then you hit construction zone and it slams on the brakes down to 55 or 60 whatever the speed limit is. Sometimes its not updated and just brakes for a random speed limit, like it almost picks it up off a side street.

[afrozenfyre]

yes, glad someone said this. This happened to me twice now. I believe it turns off when you go into rs2 mode, correct?

I also highly dislike when the cruise control is on and Im around 80mph then you hit construction zone and it slams on the brakes down to 55 or 60 whatever the speed limit is. Sometimes its not updated and just brakes for a random speed limit, like it almost picks it up off a side street.

You can turn off the cruise control auto speed limit changes. It's deep in the MMI settings but I did it immediately when I found the setting. Lots of 35mph "ramps" where traffic is still going 70....


Pre Sense can be a little aggressive at standing intersections, but I weighed that against leaving it on for its intended purpose.

[TFarrell]

You can turn off the cruise control auto speed limit changes. It's deep in the MMI settings but I did it immediately when I found the setting. Lots of 35mph "ramps" where traffic is still going 70....


Pre Sense can be a little aggressive at standing intersections, but I weighed that against leaving it on for its intended purpose.

you're a life saver. i figured that was on there somewhere, just hadn't found it yet. cheers

[Nsd991]

Yes this has happened to me twice and scared the living feces out of me, fortunately both were at rolling speeds but it felt like someone had taken a 2x4 to my head with the surprise. Both situations were when I needed to roll forward at an intersection to look beyond parked cars, both occasions I had a car trailing me thinking I was having a senior moment.

I'd expand this question to 'Is Stop/Start helpful of dangerous'? How many times have people been at an intersection when the darn engine has switched off the precise moment I need to give it gas only to have to restart? I'd love to disable permanently stop/start rather than trying to remember every time I get into the car at the console.

Agree with stop/start! When driving home from work I get 8-13mpg as I have to go through neighborhoods with lots of stops each block often with lots of traffic. Doubt I’m getting any benefit on mpg etc from start stop. Often as I roll to a stop, stop/start kick in and the car stops abruptly and jerks.

Also agree with 2x4 to the head surprise comment!

[blraider97]

Yep. Had something similar happen earlier this week. Also had it happen even more on the wife’s e-tron. As for start/stop, I immediately turn it off before driving anywhere.

[FBAnder]

I always drive in dynamic. No stop/start. Presense seems to be much more tolerant. Ill eat the lower mpgs.

[NPuter]

As for stop/start, I just installed this and it works great. No more having to hit the button every time I start the car

https://www.ebay.com/itm/324272524322

[OneFastBMW]

Can start/stop be permanently defaulted to “off” via coding?

[Corbett]

I always drive in dynamic. No stop/start. Presense seems to be much more tolerant. Ill eat the lower mpgs.

Idk how I keep seeing people say this. I drive in dynamic all the time and auto stop/start is still enabled by default.


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[NPuter]

Can start/stop be permanently defaulted to “off” via coding?

No, only option is ECU tune or installing the module I linked above

[S4-2-RS6]

You can turn off the cruise control auto speed limit changes. It's deep in the MMI settings but I did it immediately when I found the setting. Lots of 35mph "ramps" where traffic is still going 70....


Pre Sense can be a little aggressive at standing intersections, but I weighed that against leaving it on for its intended purpose.

Can you give me a clue as to where the auto speed limit option is buried in the MMI?

[NPuter]

Can you give me a clue as to where the auto speed limit option is buried in the MMI?

You hit the assist button (the other silver button with the park assist button) and then hit the "i" on the adaptive cruise control line.

[afrozenfyre]

Vehicle -> Driver assistance* -> [Gear icon] -> Adaptive Cruise Assist -> Predictive Control -> Set Speed Limit "Off"

*I have this on Maximum and this works, but I'm not sure if you have to do it again for Individual and Basic.

Good luck!

[FBAnder]

Idk how I keep seeing people say this. I drive in dynamic all the time and auto stop/start is still enabled by default.


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Dynamic AND sport I should day.

[VTurbo]

I get what Audi pre sense is designed to do. However for me it has had the opposite effect. Yesterday while trying to turn onto a road a car was approaching on my left and beginning it’s turn onto the side street I was on. I began to make my way onto the main road, Audi pre sense confused this with me performing a dangerous maneuver and slammed on the break while I’m in the middle of entering the main road and the car behind me that was performed the same maneuver behind me and luckily avoided me. This is the second time I’ve had a scare with this technology. Both times I was driving carefully and not putting the car in a dangerous situation. Anyone else have similar experiences?

Agreed, can be dangerous for sure. My RS6 slammed the brakes on twice unnecessarily almost causing an accident on one occasion. I was at a 4 way intersection, car to my left was turning right down the road I was coming from, and once he was alongside me, I started to proceed forward as it was completely safe to do so. Pre sense kicked on slammed on the brakes and I was almost rear ended by the very unhappy gentleman behind me who assumed I would continue through the intersection and not slam my brakes on for no reason. Brought it to my dealerships attention and they told me, yeah that's how it works, there is nothing we can do about it. It can be disabled, but must be done every time you start the car. Some of the settings can be changed, and kept at "basic" but pre-sense must be disabled every time. That and many other little annoyances are the reason I sold my car. Beautiful car, amazing powertrain, but I could do without all the tech stuff that's just not where it needs to be.

[S4-2-RS6]

Vehicle -> Driver assistance* -> [Gear icon] -> Adaptive Cruise Assist -> Predictive Control -> Set Speed Limit "Off"

*I have this on Maximum and this works, but I'm not sure if you have to do it again for Individual and Basic.

Good luck!

Thanks, found it.

This forum is GOLD!

[Tornitron]

Has anyone found a coding solution to disable pre sense? Just had it come on with my wife in the car. She might legitimately have whiplash. We were no where near the car in front of us.

I just got this car a few weeks ago, after going through a lot of hoops to find one, and now I'm thinking about selling it if I can't find an easy way to disable pre sense. The car is unsafe.

[KJ-RS]

You can disable it in the MMI yourself, no coding necessary.

[Tornitron]

You can disable it in the MMI yourself, no coding necessary.

As far as I am aware, you have to disable it everytime you start the car.

[KJ-RS]

Not for me, I changed my setting when I first got the car and it never kicked in again.

[NPuter]

As far as I am aware, you have to disable it everytime you start the car.

User profiles/keys remember whatever driver's assist settings were set to them. Once you disable it on a profile/key it will remain off for that profile/key.
For pre-sense, you can select how early it will intervene.

It's stop/start you have to disable every time you start the car (unless you install the ebay module I linked above)

[Tornitron]

User profiles/keys remember whatever driver's assist settings were set to them. Once you disable it on a profile/key it will remain off for that profile/key.
For pre-sense, you can select how early it will intervene.

It's stop/start you have to disable every time you start the car (unless you install the ebay module I linked above)

It doesn't allow for the the setting to disable pre-sense to be retained.

Please see picture.

[NPuter]

It doesn't allow for the the setting to disable pre-sense to be retained.

Please see picture.

Huh that's interesting. Admittedly I never actually tried disabling it. I think I actually left it at early intervention and have never had it kick in (and have had the car almost a year now). I would change it to late and you shouldn't have an issue.
I've been meaning to turn off intersection assist since reading this thread

[oswiff]

I experienced the unwanted interference of pre sense today. Was making a left hand turn and as the car coming in the opposite direction was just past me, I began to accelerate and pre sense decided it was too close. I thought the car had died as I have never experience pre sense. Not pleasant - luckily the car behind me was a fair distance away otherwise I am sure I would have been rear ended.
I get what the purpose of this feature is but it is sensitive and if I drove this car in Manhattan on a more frequent basis, it would be an issue. Most of the turns from an avenue to a street would be much closer than what made it activate today.

[MikeMac10]

Yes, used VagCom recently to turn pre-sense off permanently.

Has anyone found a coding solution to disable pre sense? Just had it come on with my wife in the car. She might legitimately have whiplash. We were no where near the car in front of us.

I just got this car a few weeks ago, after going through a lot of hoops to find one, and now I'm thinking about selling it if I can't find an easy way to disable pre sense. The car is unsafe.

[pfl]

Regarding the Start/Stop, isn't the RS7 camera in front detecting the vehicle in front moving and turning on the engine before you get off brakes? I recall seeing this somewhere about the RS7.

[FBAnder]

Regarding the Start/Stop, isn't the RS7 camera in front detecting the vehicle in front moving and turning on the engine before you get off brakes? I recall seeing this somewhere about the RS7.

Yea, start/stop will turn the engine back on once the car in front moves enough. Start/stop is off the vast majority of time for me. I don't find it very smooth/intelligent. May activate it in a heavy traffic jam but generally its off. By off I mean car is in dynamic and sport modes.

[Roman8er]

Yea, start/stop will turn the engine back on once the car in front moves enough. Start/stop is off the vast majority of time for me. I don't find it very smooth/intelligent. May activate it in a heavy traffic jam but generally its off. By off I mean car is in dynamic and sport modes.

I hear that the c-8 Stingrays are suffering engine damage when using cylinder deactivation. Never liked that idea.

[FBAnder]

I hear that the c-8 Stingrays are suffering engine damage when using cylinder deactivation. Never liked that idea.

Another feature that never gets activated when I always drive in dynamic and sport modes. Haha.

[Roman8er]

Another feature that never gets activated when I always drive in dynamic and sport modes. Haha.

Good to know, I'll be doing the same.

[Astonished]

Another pre sense experience…
While my RS4 is in for service (With new C8 RS6 currently on the boat to Australia) the loan Q5 was going on a down ramp into a shopping centre and presumably it sensed the overhead bulkhead that we were heading under and whoa … the brakes went into emergency stop. If there was a car within a length or two of us they would have been in the rear bumper.

Needless to say took the missus and I by surprise. And here I am after a search to find out how to set default as “Always off” as it’s clearly creating more issues than its saving me from. Yes, it had already done a couple of random braking sessions over the last two days that were surprising but only momentary and we kept going, but this time it was a big body slam. Effective brakes but really?

I guess once I reach the perpetual Driving Miss Daisy stage in life I’d turn it on. But Meanwhile, with most of my faculties still with me, it’s got to be more dangerous than it’s benefit and needs to be off.

Oh yeh, as I use my RS4 as a daily driver and it does 35,000 kms (22,000 mile) per year on variable Aussie roads it’s suspension is in comfort/auto mode 98% of the time as will be the RS6 once I get it, so opting for Dynamic (And losing my teeth, backbone and general sense of well-being) won’t be a happening option to disable pre-sense. But oh yeh, if I’m “Having a go” dynamic may be called for, however on Aussie roads it’s often more productive for pace maximisation to stay out of dynamic.

[Nsd991]

Drove my wife’s Q8 last night to pick up pizza. Was in a packed parking lot trying to find a parking space like many cars around me. All of a sudden the pre sense kicked in ( I don’t know what it saw) but very nearly caused the car behind me to crash into me. We have an SQ8 on the boat to replace this car but I’m not sure we should take it as this experience was alarming.

[FBAnder]

Oh boy, wonder what pre-sense does with a detected front end then immediate rear end impending collision? Lay the driver seat flat in 2 seconds flat? Eject the occupants out the roof?

[Astonished]

Oh boy, wonder what pre-sense does with a detected front end then immediate rear end impending collision? Lay the driver seat flat in 2 seconds flat? Eject the occupants out the roof?

It’s in the manual … flashes up on the MMI …”James Bond Mode Initiated”

[rexus300]

You can change the audi presafe setting to be less aggressive and late rather than early which has been perfectly fine for me since delivery 2 years ago with my RS7

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Did the same as above and it works.

[Astonished]

You can change the audi presafe setting to be less aggressive and late rather than early which has been perfectly fine for me since delivery 2 years ago with my RS7

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Did the same as above and it works.

Thanks, will try on the loaner Q5. Certainly better than shutting off EVERY day

[VelocityRS6]

There are 3 settings by default and all the pre sense issues went away in the basic mode but this turned off the lane assistance light on the mirror. You can actually customize each one of the presets and I was able to get the lane assistance light to work without presence being too aggressive. Pre sense has even kicked in for me while parallel parking and the first time this happened it sounded like I hit something. The brakes lock up so hard. I can take a pic of my settings and post here when I get a chance.