RS6 Oil Change DIY

[Jim skatzka]

You’ll get it! Start with twisting it back and forth with pliers. Then pulling while twisting back and forth. Mine was a bitch also and I felt like I was going to break something but eventually it came out.


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Thanks! I’ll just twist and pull until the dang thing comes out!

[S4-2-RS6]

Has anyone found a source for this very special oil in the US, other than the Audi dealer?

I searched for Mobil 1™ ESP X3 0W-40 but come with nada.

[gramcustodian]

Europa parts has oem audi 0w-40 511 they sell as part of oil change kits. They are pricey though.


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[rs4-380]

Has anyone found a source for this very special oil in the US, other than the Audi dealer?

I searched for Mobil 1™ ESP X3 0W-40 but come with nada.

several places are selling top-tec 4110.

[S4-2-RS6]

Is the top-tec 4110 only in 5W-40? That is all I seem to find. Do we need 0W-40 or is 5W-40 close enough?

[gramcustodian]

Many audi shops use liqui Molly 5w-40 and it is an approved alternative by audi to the official audi brand 0w-40


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[rs4-380]

Is the top-tec 4110 only in 5W-40? That is all I seem to find. Do we need 0W-40 or is 5W-40 close enough?

511.00 is more ‘important’ then the weight. Frankly the difference between 5 and 0w-40 is splitting hairs

[essfour]

Bumping this thread a bit. I just finished a successful oil-change using the extractor method at 1500mi following a proper break-in procedure. I grabbed a sample to send to Blackstone for a UOA to get a baseline sample and to understand the initial wear and effectiveness of the factory 511.00

I'll be doing changes at 5k intervals for the next few changes to track subsequent used oil samples to see if TBN and other qualities of this oil can be safely stretched to the 10k interval that the factory covers. My guess is likely not, but we will see what the data says. I wonder if this oil is actually any good?

[wheeljouster]

Bumping this thread a bit. I just finished a successful oil-change using the extractor method at 1500mi following a proper break-in procedure. I grabbed a sample to send to Blackstone for a UOA to get a baseline sample and to understand the initial wear and effectiveness of the factory 511.00

I'll be doing changes at 5k intervals for the next few changes to track subsequent used oil samples to see if TBN and other qualities of this oil can be safely stretched to the 10k interval that the factory covers. My guess is likely not, but we will see what the data says. I wonder if this oil is actually any good?

Since you’re using the extraction method, why not just extract a sample and send it off and *not* perform the oil change till you get the results?


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[essfour]

Since you’re using the extraction method, why not just extract a sample and send it off and *not* perform the oil change till you get the results?


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I always like to change the oil at 1500mi following the break-in period, maybe overkill. Otherwise yea, you can totally just grab a quick sample that way. We should probably have a thread on how to follow the proper break-in period now that I think of it...

[prodigymb]

I use the 5W-40 Liqui Moly TopTec with the VW511 cert and so far car seems to like it. Recently picked up an extractor so I will probably do annual oil change today.

[jzhu625]

where are you getting your oil? i can't find it anywhere

[prodigymb]

where are you getting your oil? i can't find it anywhere

FCP Euro

[prodigymb]

after 5 min the oil temp if car is brought up to running temp could be close to 180-190 degrees. the internals that the tube would be in contact with, likely hotter. you don't worry about melting the extractor tube? after 20-30 min the car is still warm, the oil is as well. maybe semantics, just my opinion. I've only done one change but I got a full 9.5 out.

9.5 with extractor? i was only able to get around 7.5 out with extractor.

[jzhu625]

thanks

here's the link in case anyone want it.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/aud...06m198405fkt56

[vinny.dtw]

9.5 with extractor? i was only able to get around 7.5 out with extractor.

you could of simply have burned off some oil in between your oil change interval.

I do like the old way of draining from the bottom more, but can't argue with the convenience of an extractor when you're low on time.

[jzhu625]

btw, the sticker under the hood say 0W-40 and VW511, but i can use 5W-40 and VW511?

[S4-2-RS6]

btw, the sticker under the hood say 0W-40 and VW511, but i can use 5W-40 and VW511?

5W-40 is OK. What counts is the VW511.

[icr]

Are people re-using the oil dipstick plug? This indicates it is one time use:
Audi RS6 oil plug.jpg

[S4-2-RS6]

That's news to me. I have removed and reinstalled mine once so far with no apparent issue.

[OneFastBMW]

Has anyone drained with an extractor then pulled the drain plug to see how much the extractor “leaves behind on these motors? I’m curious if the extractor gets most of the oil out.

[c99]

You'll find the oil pan located in the center front of the car. This will require a T45 too loosen the drain plug. Remove. Drain. It'll take a while... I let that thing drip for about an hour... and only got about 9.5 quarts of oil out. Tighten after to 22ft/lbs. Replace the O-ring.

This oil looks very bad, I would shorten the driving distance, or I would recomment oil analysis.

How many miles did You drive before oil change?

[Atabeygi]

Anyone used the mobil 1 supercar motor oil?

[tinmanwpk]

Anyone used the mobil 1 supercar motor oil?

It does not have the VW 5.11 approval from what I can see. I've been looking for other oils as well.

[OneFastBMW]

Here are the aftermarket oils that I have found with the VW 511 Approval:

RAVENOL RUP Racing Ultra Performance SAE 5W-40
Liqui Moly Top-Tec 4110
Mobil 1 ESP X3
Castrol EDGE M

Please let me know if anyone knows of any other oils that a VW 511 approved. Of the oils above, only the Mobil 1 is available in 0w-40. All other are 5w-40. 0w-40 would just be a tiny bit more viscous when at operating temp.

[Atabeygi]

Here are the aftermarket oils that I have found with the VW 511 Approval:

RAVENOL RUP Racing Ultra Performance SAE 5W-40
Liqui Moly Top-Tec 4110
Mobil 1 ESP X3
Castrol EDGE M

Please let me know if anyone knows of any other oils that a VW 511 approved. Of the oils above, only the Mobil 1 is available in 0w-40. All other are 5w-40. 0w-40 would just be a tiny bit more viscous when at operating temp.

That's funny because the first time I needed a top up I called local dealer service department to specifically ask what kind of oil I should use and they said "mobile 1 full synthetic 0w-40, any kind or different brand is fine". I (stupidly) took them at their word and got the mobil 1 European car formula off the shelf and topped up.

Obviously I should have done more research. At least now I have some ESP X3 if needed

[FBAnder]

That's funny because the first time I needed a top up I called local dealer service department to specifically ask what kind of oil I should use and they said "mobile 1 full synthetic 0w-40, any kind or different brand is fine". I (stupidly) took them at their word and got the mobil 1 European car formula off the shelf and topped up.

Obviously I should have done more research. At least now I have some ESP X3 if needed

I think your ok with up to 1qt of that stuff in there. It's in the manual but don't have it in front of me rn.

[carguyshu]

Anyone used the mobil 1 supercar motor oil?

Someone on the Cadillac blackwing forum paid to have oil analysis ran on both supercar (factory fill on corvettes & blackwings) & esp x3 brand new straight out of the bottle & the results were that they were near identical. Esp x3 had more availability where he was so he decided to run it.

[MegatonRS]

Sorry for the newbie question, but I'm in the middle of attempting first oil change via extraction for my RS6 and was wondering if it mattered what way the filter is oriented when it's replaced. As far as I can tell, the top and bottom of the OEM filter are the exact same in terms of shape and construction, and the only difference is one side has letters and numbers. There's also nothing to line up with the nipple in the housing.

[brad65ford]

call me crazy but there is something special about checking your oil with a dipstick if possible. Is there an actual part number for a dipstick we can purchase to replace the plug?

[Jprieur]

I use the extractor method too, and as mentioned above the dealerships use this method as well. For the times the dealer has changed my oil, when they do the walk around recap video that they text to me when service is complete you can even see the extractor in the background.

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I just completed the RS7. Pulled out 9.25 QTs. I wait till the oil temp is below 150 after a short drive to avoid any issues with melting or distorting the extraction tube. When I start pulling air I do a few pushes to get out some more until its running dry. I even extract from the bottom of the oil filter housing after I remove the filter itself (I can usually get a good amount) to ensure I get every bit of oil out. Overkill I know but why not. We used to have an old pup in the house and have plenty of 'pee pads' left so I use those to protect anything from spills/drips.

The dipstick plug can be a pain to remove, I use locking grips/pliers to ensure I don't loose it and I put fresh oil on those 2 small o rings so should be easier next time! Mobil 1 ESP X3 0W-40 goes in (and it's actually avail at my local Autozone). All in all about 30-45 min between prep and completion, and a short drive over to the auto parts store to dispose of the used oil and done.

[sinister4]

Anyone have a link part number for a actual dipstick that will fit the C8 RS6 ? thanks

[B7er]

Can the dealer find out if you have done an oil change elsewhere? I’d guess the color could be a bit different for oil that was used for 10k vs. 5k miles, but is it very apparent?
New RS6 owner here and have asked the dealer if they’re fine with me doing an oil change before the service interval (1yr or 15k km in Korea), but he advised me not to do that to avoid any risk of warranty void.
I know, this may sound absurd, but they won’t even order a set of OEM 21” wheels for me since they don’t show up as the official wheels for the 2025 RS6. Audi Korea seems to be extremely strict with the car maintenance, perhaps looking for ways to avoid any possible blame when something goes wrong with the car. Their sales have plummeted in recent years so they’re trying to cut costs, and i get it, but certainly frustrating for the customers.
Sorry my question turned into a rant 😂

[sinister4]

Here are the aftermarket oils that I have found with the VW 511 Approval:

RAVENOL RUP Racing Ultra Performance SAE 5W-40
Liqui Moly Top-Tec 4110
Mobil 1 ESP X3
Castrol EDGE M

Please let me know if anyone knows of any other oils that a VW 511 approved. Of the oils above, only the Mobil 1 is available in 0w-40. All other are 5w-40. 0w-40 would just be a tiny bit more viscous when at operating temp.

Add to the list Motul 8100 X-Clean Gen2 5W40

[azzurri0]

Can the dealer find out if you have done an oil change elsewhere? I’d guess the color could be a bit different for oil that was used for 10k vs. 5k miles, but is it very apparent?
New RS6 owner here and have asked the dealer if they’re fine with me doing an oil change before the service interval (1yr or 15k km in Korea), but he advised me not to do that to avoid any risk of warranty void.
I know, this may sound absurd, but they won’t even order a set of OEM 21” wheels for me since they don’t show up as the official wheels for the 2025 RS6. Audi Korea seems to be extremely strict with the car maintenance, perhaps looking for ways to avoid any possible blame when something goes wrong with the car. Their sales have plummeted in recent years so they’re trying to cut costs, and i get it, but certainly frustrating for the customers.
Sorry my question turned into a rant

How in the world is changing the oil a warranty question? That doesn’t make any sense.

[Kczach]

It's amusing that I had the same experience with the wheels that you had. My own thoughts are that maybe the 25 year parts numbers aren't in their system. The parts people don't want to go against the system. I ended going with Tire Rack and a local installer. Not sure about the oil change since it's a pretty easy DIY, probably CYA on their part.

Cheers

[B7er]

It's amusing that I had the same experience with the wheels that you had. My own thoughts are that maybe the 25 year parts numbers aren't in their system. The parts people don't want to go against the system. I ended going with Tire Rack and a local installer. Not sure about the oil change since it's a pretty easy DIY, probably CYA on their part.

Cheers

I’ve owned two Audi cars in the US and all dealers in the US were much more cooperative…looks like i have a few “fights” to deal with down the road here in Korea.
I’ve already reached out to the Vossen dealer and a few others for 21” options :)

[allenyao09]

I just did my oil change using an oil extractor and it has been very easy. The cap is super easy to remove for me. Maybe it's because my dealer is using an oil extractor for oil change too.

[NoGarageQueen]

One potential downside of using an extractor is that the drain plug is magnetic and you’re not pulling it (when using an extractor) to see if there is any metal adhered to the magnet. But I suppose one could pull the drain plug anyway, or send a sample for analysis.

We just bought the Mobil 1 VW spec 511.00 0W-40 oil from Auto Zone. It was not widely available and prices vary quite a bit. It took two stores to find 11 quarts (we want an extra quart at home in case we need to top it off between changes). Suncoast Porsche also has it online (although pricier than Auto Zone).

Our Porsche dealer is doing the oil change for us (we know them and have a long and good relationship) and we want to supply the oil.

I’m going to ask whether they extract or drain. I assume you get more of the oil out when you drain…. But I also understand it takes more time.

EDITED: Typo above corrected: VW spec is 511.00 0W-40

[NevesXis]

... We just bought the Mobil 1 VW spec 511.11 0W-40 oil from Auto Zone. It was not widely available and prices vary quite a bit. It took two stores to find 11 quarts (we want an extra quart at home in case we need to top it off between changes). Suncoast Porsche also has it online (although pricier than Auto Zone)...

Could you please share either a link or a photo of the bottle, front and back? I'm not finding any Mobil 1 products with 511.11 approval on the back of the bottle. Thanks, in advance, for your help!