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    Horrible experience with milltek exhaust on my B9 RS5

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    This post is help out anyone with a B9 RS5 that is looking to upgrade their exhaust. Hopefully I can save someone a lot of money and time from the mistake I made. I will compare my stock Audi sport exhaust to an aftermarket @millteksport touring resonated exhaust with high flow catalytic converters. About a little over a year ago I opted to go for the complete Milltek sport set-up. The first video the car is completely stock as it came from the dealer. If you slide to the left the second video is the high performance @millteksport exhaust. As you can hear in the video the stock Audi exhaust sounds better. In my opinion it's more aggressive and more raspy sounding. Also it was weird that I had more cabin drone than I did with the stock exhaust even though the Milltek was quieter outside than the stock exhaust. But when one purchases an exhaust you don't only want a louder sounding exhaust. Louder doesn't mean more power. So being that I went with high flow catalytics and a higher flowing "performance" exhaust I would have expected more power/performance. Well that wasn't the case either. When comparing dragy passes to the before and after there was no difference at all. I would have thought after spending thousands of dollars I would have at least gotten a performance gain but I didn't get either performance or better sound. But what I did get is an exhaust that rattled upon launch and hard turns. So I contacted @millteksport in England on the phone first about the rattling issue. Not once did I mention that the car did not perform any better even though I spent so much money. My main concern was the horrible rattling coming from the front, the rear the sides just everywhere. They were very quick to blame the mechanic. They said I should go to an authorized dealer which my mechanic is an authorized Milltek dealer after realizing that they said they will call them and tell them how to install it and they will send their representative from Connecticut to my mechanics shop which they did. Their representative Greg at the time agreed that the way the exhaust flaps were mounted in the rear was a very poor design and that's why it was hitting my very expensive factory carbon fiber rear valence. And also about the rattling every time I launch the car they had this to say they told me "not" to launch it so hard. So I have a performance exhaust on a performance vehicle and I'm not supposed to launch it that hard. Thanks @millteksport because as I mentioned to them multiple times it wasn't just the launching. I also had to slow down on the turns on the Poconos raceway track also because I didn't know if my wheel was falling off but it was just the exhaust rattling along the side and the rear. The hotter the car got the more the exhaust expanded and rattled like a piece of junk. They continued to blame my mechanic. If I hadn't seen it for myself and how much time and effort my mechanic put into installing this exhaust how many things they had to adjust to work around the Milltek exhaust I would have believed Miltek. Countless of emails and phone calls but Miltek continued to blame the installer. So I went to another mechanic just to see well he said he could not have installed it any better himself and the poor quality of the @millteksport exhaust was to blame. Then I asked around on the Audi forums and I ran into multiple people that had the same issue one guy had to actually take a hammer to his @millteksport exhaust to solve the problem. Well I refuse to take a hammer to an almost $10,000 exhaust system. I don't know if it was their poor quality during covid or maybe they just don't care anymore. Their quality control is not what it used to be and neither is their customer service. They just don't care. I had this exhaust installed a little over a year ago and up until 2 months ago I was still contacting @milltekspor to do something for my exhaust and they just didn't care. In the end I had to remove the @millteksport exhaust and reinstall the stock exhaust and I had the stock resonators deleted and it sounds a million times better and performs a million times better. In all the conversations I had with people on forums about this issue no one complained about @awetuningofficial or @officialcapristoexhaust or @armytrix_official The only complaints I heard were about @millteksport exhausts. So this post is just to any other people looking to upgrade their exhaust. If you have a stock Audi sport exhaust save yourself the money and don't upgrade your exhaust or at least don't get a @millteksport exhaust. The only reason I went with Milltek is because of their quality in the "past" and they offer the exhaust flap option. Well their quality is not what it used to be and their customer service is horrible and the exhaust flaps we're poorly designed and caused me to have rattles because they were touching my rear carbon fiber valance. Luckily it didn't break it or it would have cost $5,000 to repair. Upon my whole build all the companies I have worked along with have been amazing with me. @awetuningofficial replaced my carbon fiber air intake because the first one they sent me was a bad batch and it started to fade. One phone call and they sent me a brand new one immediately no questions asked that's how you deal with the issue. Then this build would not have been possible without @kmdtuning and @weistec We had a lot of hiccups along the way due to some other companies diverter valves but we worked together as a team and got it working right. @weistec customer service is unreal they respond immediately and they care about their customers. Any questions I had they answered and explained thoroughly and any issues we had they worked countless hours to solve along with @kmdtuning I hope this post will save someone time and money. Research any company you are going to purchase any items from. Ask questions go on to social media platforms, forums and find out what others have to say. I've been quiet about this for over a year trying to give @millteksport the chance to correct this and recognize their horrible quality control and do something about it. Well after their silence and ignorance to my situation I chose to no longer be silent about this so that someone else doesn't make the same mistake I did.

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    Wow, that is horrible to hear. Out of all the things to go wrong with a new exhaust you seem to have checked all of the boxes... Awful.

    The euro shop I use only has milltek valved in stock. I guess I know why now. Count me saved, I think I'll be going with AWE.

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    Very happy with my Milltek Semi resonated exhaust, big improvement over stock and perfect fitment. Also installed their valve controller, drove me nuts how much stock open/closes even in dynamic
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    Gosh, I am so sorry to hear of this disaster. Maybe you got a bad unit while others received good units, but there is zero excuse for the crappy customer service. It drives me nuts when I hear all these folks spending a lot of money to "improve" on their cars, only to be disappointed. People get a tune and sometimes the car runs like crap or it throws codes. People lower their cars and then sometimes it rides like crap. You just never know. However, as you say, DO YOUR HOMEWORK and then hope for the best. Or, just leave the car as it came. The RS group built a pretty nice car, so if I ever "upgrade" anything, It will be very limited and I will be very particular.

    Good luck and hope you somehow get satisfaction.

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    This ought to piss a lot of people off, although absolutely not intended to!

    I think the factory Sport exhaust sounds great. And, trying to get a V-6 to sound better is a waste of time and money. It's like tying to get a Japanese bike to sound like a Harley. It just ain't going to happen. Louder does not mean better. Probably the best and cheapest approach would be just to remove front resonators. You get just a bit more of everything over stock, but a very similar sound.

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    The Alfa Romero Giulia Quadrifoglio with the stock exhaust sounds really good for a 2.9L twin turbo V6. I'd be happy with something like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWGXO8CJEV0

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    Quote Originally Posted by dal59 View Post
    This ought to piss a lot of people off, although absolutely not intended to!

    I think the factory Sport exhaust sounds great. And, trying to get a V-6 to sound better is a waste of time and money. It's like tying to get a Japanese bike to sound like a Harley. It just ain't going to happen. Louder does not mean better. Probably the best and cheapest approach would be just to remove front resonators. You get just a bit more of everything over stock, but a very similar sound.
    There’s actually a lot of v6 that sound good imo, as long as you pair it with the right exhaust. So I don’t think you should discredit the v6. For example the the Nissan GT-R is a v6 and it sounds amazing with the right exhaust.

    However, you are right that you should do your homework. In regards to the OP milltek system, I’ve seen YouTube vids and they don’t sound that great and to my knowledge milltek was always known to have rattle issues. I don’t personally own an aftermarket exhaust but after research, I believe the AWE does sound the best on the b9 Rs5 and it’s some what priced reasonably compared to capristo/milltek but you are sacrificing the flaps.

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    FWIW, I am having some slight rattling issues at higher temps when I come to a slow downshift (as in pulling into the driveway) or occasionally at stop lights waiting for them to turn green as well - and I have the AWE Touring Resonated on my B9 RS5. Been back and forth at the authorized dealer as well. It seems the clearance space is really tight on these models and lends tremendously to the issue. But they are still working towards resolution; the latest being some special washers or something from AWE itself.

    Certainly not providing excuses for any of what you are experiencing but sympathetic to your plight. Right there with you! The rattle is super frustrating and embarrassing to be honest.
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    Sent you a PM for the Milltek downpipes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnEnglish View Post
    The Alfa Romero Giulia Quadrifoglio with the stock exhaust sounds really good for a 2.9L twin turbo V6. I'd be happy with something like this.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWGXO8CJEV0
    Okay, I will admit it sounds pretty good in the garage at start up, and outdoors when taking off. However, as it drives along down the road, to me it is just annoying. :) Forgive me, but at 62 yrs old I am use to the beautiful rumble and growl of a potent V8.

    Plus, to me, the RS5 is a luxury car, so I really like the stock exhaust. It is quiet, yet with just enough burble, in Dynamic mode to let you know it has a little something under the hood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToroTheShibe View Post
    There’s actually a lot of v6 that sound good imo, as long as you pair it with the right exhaust. So I don’t think you should discredit the v6. For example the the Nissan GT-R is a v6 and it sounds amazing with the right exhaust.

    However, you are right that you should do your homework. In regards to the OP milltek system, I’ve seen YouTube vids and they don’t sound that great and to my knowledge milltek was always known to have rattle issues. I don’t personally own an aftermarket exhaust but after research, I believe the AWE does sound the best on the b9 Rs5 and it’s some what priced reasonably compared to capristo/milltek but you are sacrificing the flaps.
    Okay, I will revise my statement. "most" v6' do not sound better with after market exhaust. they just sound louder, with a handful of exceptions. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by dal59 View Post
    Okay, I will admit it sounds pretty good in the garage at start up, and outdoors when taking off. However, as it drives along down the road, to me it is just annoying. :) Forgive me, but at 62 yrs old I am use to the beautiful rumble and growl of a potent V8.

    Plus, to me, the RS5 is a luxury car, so I really like the stock exhaust. It is quiet, yet with just enough burble, in Dynamic mode to let you know it has a little something under the hood.
    I agree with you, V6 sounds decent but V8 sound over it all day, I5 sounds better too. Thankfully we have turbo noise and that's good enough for me.

    **Followed you on IG @acteez302 and listened to the videos, it does sound like crap, wow wtf - thanks for the heads up, sucks you spent all that money for poor results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dal59 View Post
    Okay, I will revise my statement. "most" v6' do not sound better with after market exhaust. they just sound louder, with a handful of exceptions. :)
    Thank you for your opinion

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    Milltek cats usualy need some ECU tweeks, so if there is no ECU modification I expect power loss.

    Compare the exhaust by sound of cold engine looks little bit stupid to me, sorry.

    Also I don't understand why somebody who is satisfied with original exhaust would buy aftermaket exhaust, sorry again.

    I don't know which m.y. is the car, but cars till 2019 has had wrong flaps motors which can make flap rattle and Audi change them for free (there is TSB for it). The question is if there was performed flaps adaptation after mounting.

    There were also 2 designs of downpipe, first make noise and rattle in some cases, Milltek change them for free, if problems persist.

    So as I have experience with many Milltek exhausts, if there was problem it was instalation problem in 90%, if it was Milltek problem, they change the parts for free, even more than 2 years after purchase.

    Maybe I see these problems from wrong side, who knows.

    When I saw the videos on Instagram I can say Milltek exhaust sounds much better for me than original one, sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by c99 View Post
    Milltek cats usualy need some ECU tweeks, so if there is no ECU modification I expect power loss.

    Compare the exhaust by sound of cold engine looks little bit stupid to me, sorry.

    Also I don't understand why somebody who is satisfied with original exhaust would buy aftermaket exhaust, sorry again.

    I don't know which m.y. is the car, but cars till 2019 has had wrong flaps motors which can make flap rattle and Audi change them for free (there is TSB for it). The question is if there was performed flaps adaptation after mounting.

    There were also 2 designs of downpipe, first make noise and rattle in some cases, Milltek change them for free, if problems persist.

    So as I have experience with many Milltek exhausts, if there was problem it was instalation problem in 90%, if it was Milltek problem, they change the parts for free, even more than 2 years after purchase.

    Maybe I see these problems from wrong side, who knows.

    When I saw the videos on Instagram I can say Milltek exhaust sounds much better for me than original one, sorry.

    I had a muffler leaking at a weld by where the valve was. They sent me two new mufflers, and new motors. All for free (warranty) hassle free. ECS sold me some old inventory, hence the old style mufflers. Did the adaptation with VCDS and I'm finally fixed. 19 RS5 coupe.

    They sent me all that within a weeks time. Just need a set of downpipes (catted). Already have a tune, and all the bolt on stuff.

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