Updated TSI follower conversion kit on FSI engine

[arankaspar1]

Has anyone ever tried this conversion? I'm wondering if I can get the TSI rolling cam follower with the bearing, but keep my HFPP?

Seems like it would help with follower service intervals but I don't know how it would hold up with a K04 stage 3 tune.


https://xlr8performance.com/i-37337-...2-103-107.html
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-iabed-in...-103-107slrkt/

[Theiceman]

It's been done quite a few times. Not sure how to search it though.

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[aluthman]

You can use the same hpfp with the kit. I’ve been running it for well over a year (probably closer to two) with no issues. I’m using the same IE hpfp I was using before installing the roller follower.

[KingKostas]

u keep the same hpfp, i run the iABED conversion for over a year no issues


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[arankaspar1]

u keep the same hpfp, i run the iABED conversion for over a year no issues


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Are you stage 2 / 3?

[arankaspar1]

You can use the same hpfp with the kit. I’ve been running it for well over a year (probably closer to two) with no issues. I’m using the same IE hpfp I was using before installing the roller follower.

Are you stage 2 / 3?
How often should you check the roller style?

[Jayz691]

Quite a few people run it. Just gotta decide if its worth spending $600, to save from changing a $15 CF every 10-20k miles. Even every oil change(5k), would take a long time to pay for itself.(40x)...

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[Charles.waite]

You basically don’t need to check the roller because of the nature of how it works.

Maybe at high levels of tune you could check it every few oil changes if you’re nervous but I’m pretty sure it’s not a common failure item for the b8 guys even when they’re tuned.

[AudiB720TS]

I did a comparison in my build thread between brands. You can reduce cost by sourcing some of the parts yourself. So that’s what I did, granted my engine isn’t running yet so we’ll see how it goes.

[canadianA4B7]

I have complete roller conversion looking to sell it. Has about 8 minutes of run time on it.

[esandes]

I have complete roller conversion looking to sell it. Has about 8 minutes of run time on it.

If you don't mind me asking, why are you selling it?

[Okedokey]

I have complete roller conversion looking to sell it. Has about 8 minutes of run time on it.

how much to my town? :)

[canadianA4B7]

how much to my town? :)

It’s already sold. Sending it out Monday/Tuesday to it’s new home.

[aluthman]

Are you stage 2 / 3?
How often should you check the roller style?

I’m somewhere beyond stage 3...

I really only check the roller follower when I have it apart for other reasons. I have seen no indication of wear so far in ~15k miles.

[KingKostas]

Are you stage 2 / 3?

big turbo. i never check my follower


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[blakefife]

i never check my followe either... but I have to guess now that people have so many issues with them because of dirty oil and as soon as it doesnt have the clean lubrication it needs, thats when the small cracks happen and then the thing shatters inside for total failure.

change oil and disable your balance shafts and everything will be fine.

[arankaspar1]

i never check my followe either... but I have to guess now that people have so many issues with them because of dirty oil and as soon as it doesnt have the clean lubrication it needs, thats when the small cracks happen and then the thing shatters inside for total failure.

change oil and disable your balance shafts and everything will be fine.

Disable your balance shafts? Seriously? Why?

[arankaspar1]

I have complete roller conversion looking to sell it. Has about 8 minutes of run time on it.

I am also curious why you were selling off the conversion kit?

[arankaspar1]

Quite a few people run it. Just gotta decide if its worth spending $600, to save from changing a $15 CF every 10-20k miles. Even every oil change(5k), would take a long time to pay for itself.(40x)...

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True but this guy did it on the cheap by having the original housing machined out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrN52cI7V4

Also every time you remove that f*ing HPFP the Aluminum to Aluminum bolts/cover weaken a little more each time. I'm already at the point where I've slightly overtightened 1 of 3 bolts and it makes me very nervous.

[canadianA4B7]

I am also curious why you were selling off the conversion kit?

2.0 go bang. No more interest in the money I’ve already wasted on their engine. Cut losses, learn from shit that happens.

Also every time you remove that f*ing HPFP the Aluminum to Aluminum bolts/cover weaken a little more each time. I'm already at the point where I've slightly overtightened 1 of 3 bolts and it makes me very nervous.

Invest in torq wrench. Should be no fears if you wrench to spec. Being the materials differences I cannot understand why one would take risks. Too ditch the Audi bolts for 12.9. Rather then throwing bolts away every change just use torq wrench.

[esandes]

i never check my followe either... but I have to guess now that people have so many issues with them because of dirty oil and as soon as it doesnt have the clean lubrication it needs, thats when the small cracks happen and then the thing shatters inside for total failure.

change oil and disable your balance shafts and everything will be fine.

LOL

Follower failures are due to aftermarket pumps pushing more volume and thus increased wear on the follower. The vendors all recommend more frequent follower changes with their high performance HPFP compared to stock.

My stock OEM 60,000 mile follower had as much wear (very little) as my high performance HPFP follower after 10,000 miles.

Frequent oil changes with the best oils or balance shaft deletes will not reduce the wear as simply as you think, especially with aftermarket HPFPs.

The whole balance shaft mania is nonsense. It's an inline 4 cylinder engine. It needs counter weights to balance. Too much vibration is bad..

[Jayz691]

True but this guy did it on the cheap by having the original housing machined out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrN52cI7V4

Also every time you remove that f*ing HPFP the Aluminum to Aluminum bolts/cover weaken a little more each time. I'm already at the point where I've slightly overtightened 1 of 3 bolts and it makes me very nervous.

He doesn't even mention cost. But yes, there are multiple kits available, that you need to machine the housing yourself. But theyre still not cheap, and add in cost of machine shop. Ones ive seen were $300-$400. Some come with uprated cam lobe, some don't. Unless you have tools at home to do it. The pump and bolts were never an issue for me. I use a mini ratcheting bit driver, so I CANT tighten it too much. Or torque to spec if worried. Not an issue unless you crank on em. I'll just change the $15 follower every 10k miles. Would last much longer with a new cam. Car had signs of previous follower failure when I got it. Cam isn't real bad, but its scratched up a little.

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[Gowking]

True but this guy did it on the cheap by having the original housing machined out...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZrN52cI7V4

Also every time you remove that f*ing HPFP the Aluminum to Aluminum bolts/cover weaken a little more each time. I'm already at the point where I've slightly overtightened 1 of 3 bolts and it makes me very nervous.

I believe that's AudiB720TS who posted above. As for the threads stripping out you could switch to studs...

[AudiB720TS]

Yes, my video.

I did a table comparison showing the cost of all known options out there. It should be in my build thread. If not I can post it again.

The DIY is going to be cheaper than the rest, but it’s also a major headache to sort and there’s of course the ‘opportunity cost’.

[i3oricua]

I have it done. I'm like Stage 14+ or something like that. I never check to see if the follower is worn anymore. It is noisier than the stock one but its just something to be aware of.

[Charles.waite]

I’m stage -2 and I use a wooden cam follower. When I need a new one I saw off a limb of the apple tree in my backyard and whittle a new one out if it with a pocket knife. It lasts a super long time!

[aluthman]

I have it done. I'm like Stage 14+ or something like that. I never check to see if the follower is worn anymore. It is noisier than the stock one but its just something to be aware of.

Same here. I can’t really say it’s noisier really, but it does sound different.

[blakefife]

Hey chump, just checkin in with ya. Been over a year now driving around with my balance shafts disabled and havent checked my cam follower because guess what? I have clean oil and the engine sounds fantastic.

LOLOLOLOL

Your whole ego mania is nonsense. Try not being an egotisitcal maniac wherever you go, even online like these forums. clown boy.

[blakefife]

LOL

Follower failures are due to aftermarket pumps pushing more volume and thus increased wear on the follower. The vendors all recommend more frequent follower changes with their high performance HPFP compared to stock.

My stock OEM 60,000 mile follower had as much wear (very little) as my high performance HPFP follower after 10,000 miles.

Frequent oil changes with the best oils or balance shaft deletes will not reduce the wear as simply as you think, especially with aftermarket HPFPs.

The whole balance shaft mania is nonsense. It's an inline 4 cylinder engine. It needs counter weights to balance. Too much vibration is bad..

Hey chump, just checkin in with ya. Been over a year now driving around with my balance shafts disabled and havent checked my cam follower because guess what? I have clean oil and the engine sounds fantastic.

LOLOLOLOL

Your whole ego mania is nonsense. Try not being an egotisitcal maniac wherever you go, even online like these forums. clown boy.

[Jayz691]

Hey chump, just checkin in with ya. Been over a year now driving around with my balance shafts disabled and havent checked my cam follower because guess what? I have clean oil and the engine sounds fantastic.

LOLOLOLOL

Your whole ego mania is nonsense. Try not being an egotisitcal maniac wherever you go, even online like these forums. clown boy.

He's not even on here anymore. Look at his profile, "account terminated"(thank god). But there is a lot more to follower wear than oil changes. Biggest ones being intake cam revision, and preformance level. On a stock car thats running 119bar max rail pressure, theres not as much stress as say running 140bar(k04). Hpfp upgrade brand/design matters, and driving style. But like anything, clean oil is always good...

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[Theiceman]

esandes is finally gone ? well that alone should save a few engines.

I think Engine oil visible dirtiness so quickly on this platform is more related to DI than anything else.

it seems very common on all DI engines for oil to turn black quickly

doesn't speak to properties though..

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[Willënskraft]

I have it done. I'm like Stage 14+ or something like that. I never check to see if the follower is worn anymore. It is noisier than the stock one but its just something to be aware of.

I’m stage -2 and I use a wooden cam follower. When I need a new one I saw off a limb of the apple tree in my backyard and whittle a new one out if it with a pocket knife. It lasts a super long time!

These two posts lmao