B8 Avant Suspension Lift Setup Question

[FourRingsC6]

So I am thinking about giving my Avant a little lift and have more clearance for when we go camping / hiking over the summer. I’ve only seen one Allroad that has been tastefully modified but he used custom fab parts.
Someone told me that Q5 suspension swaps over to our cars and give it a little lift. I was not able to find any info on this so I decided to ask the group.

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[eljay]

Find someone with an Allroad and swap suspensions. Plenty of us Allroad folks want to go to Avant ride height.
If you had a low mileage S-Line suspension and we were closer, I'd swap with you. :)

[Smac770]

That's a lot more work than you might think. The allroad uses a taller strut assembly and longer upper control arms in the front, but in the rear it's spacers between the chassis and rear subframe.

No clue how well these work, but might be worth evaluating: https://www.spaccer.com/en_US/makes-...audi/a4-avant/

[eljay]

That's a lot more work than you might think. The allroad uses a taller strut assembly and longer upper control arms in the front, but in the rear it's spacers between the chassis and rear subframe.

No clue how well these work, but might be worth evaluating: https://www.spaccer.com/en_US/makes-...audi/a4-avant/

Yes, I meant that the whole suspension (mounts, control arms, shocks, springs) might need to be swapped.
That spacer option seems appealing. However, wouldn't that introduce the same problem as those of us trying to go the other way? That is the control arms would be at a wrong position unless they are those matched to the correct suspension height/angle.

[Smac770]

Yeah, would appear so. You'd need adjustable upper control arms so you could lengthen them to retain the correct camber range. While that would work for the front, I have no idea how one would do that in the rear. I assume by the same whatever means they use in the rear when people super lower the car, except in the opposite direction.

The real solution would be a spacer between the strut tower frame and the top hat (to which the strut and arms attach). Then the suspension itself is unchanged regardless how high you jack the body on top of it. Ie, same concept as the allroad uses in the rear, where the avant and allroad suspension is the same but the allroad sits on spacers on top of that suspension. These are the spacer washers used between the subframe and body in the rear of the allroad - https://allegro.pl/oferta/8t8505257-...oad-6837506954

Thinking about it more, spacers to basically extend the length of the spring would also lead to concern about the length of the damper. The allroad uses different active dampers and springs in the front and rear, even compared to the 1BL active dampers and springs in the sedan/avant.