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  1. #1
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    Can someone help with relearning end stops?

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    Hi all need your help. Long story short I swapped my electronic power steering rack in my 2015 allroad. These are the faults I'm getting in the assisted steering module

    OBDeleven data log

    Date: 2021-02-16 21:39

    VIN: WA1UFCFL1FA012268
    Car: Audi A4 Allroad
    Year: 2015
    Body type: Avant
    Engine: CPMB
    Mileage: 106940 KM

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    44 Steering Assistance

    System description: RCEPS
    Software number: 8K0909144G
    Software version: 0508
    Hardware number: 8K0909144B
    Hardware version: H40
    Serial number: 0015309797
    ODX name: EV_RCEPSAU48X
    ODX version: 008015
    Long coding: 100000000001

    Trouble codes:
    C10ACF0 - Steering End stops not learned
    static
    U140A00 - Terminal 30 Open circuit
    Intermittent
    C10AE13 - Electromechanical power steering motor Open circuit
    Intermittent

    Can anyone help me with re leading the end stops? I will double check fuses and connectors tomorrow to help diagnose the other 2 errors.
    I've tried turning the wheel all the way left and right as described in various vids but no love. There's no beep at each end stop
    Thanks

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    Did you replace it with a new rack or used? If new, it has to be coded. The steering end stops is a basic setting to adapt the new rack. As far as I know only a factory scan tool will work. Not sure if anyone has had success with Ross tech. The other 2 faults I wouldn’t worry about. Those fault set when the connector was unplugged at one point.


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  3. #3
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    Quote Originally Posted by dannydc24 View Post
    Did you replace it with a new rack or used? If new, it has to be coded. The steering end stops is a basic setting to adapt the new rack. As far as I know only a factory scan tool will work. Not sure if anyone has had success with Ross tech. The other 2 faults I wouldn’t worry about. Those fault set when the connector was unplugged at one point.


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    Hey Thanks for the reply,
    It's a used rack.

    Update:
    I did some more work today, i cleared all faults with the ObdEleven. It cleared most of the codes (including two of the ones posted above) however after i restarted the engine, one code remained - in the 44 Steering module - the End Stop fault.

    I tried following the endstop learning process outlined by Ross Tech HERE using the OBD11 instead of VCDS. The Process seems very similar in both interfaces. But i got stuck:
    Basic Settings
    Unlearn previously learned parameters
    Asks for a Security Pin for the steering module >>> stuck: not sure what that code is?

    So is there a special ...mode the car has to be in to learn the end stops? Because i tried several times spinning the wheel to either side, waiting etc. nothing seems to work. I dont hear the beep after each revolution, and the code remains after restart.

    Here are the logs:

    Before clearing codes:

    Code:
    OBDeleven data log
    
    Date: 2021-02-17 16:35
    
        VIN: WA1UFCFL1FA012268
        Car: Audi A4 Allroad
        Year: 2015
        Body type: Avant
        Engine: CPMB
        Mileage: 106940 KM
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Engine
    
        System description: 2.0l R4/4V TF
        Software number: 8K5907115N
        Software version: 0005
        Hardware number: 8K2907115L
        Hardware version: H09
        ODX name: EV_ECM20TFS0118K5907115N
        ODX version: 001006
        Long coding: 722A0013242600062000
    
        Trouble codes:
            P068A00 - ECM/PCM Power Relay De-Energized Performance - Too Early
                Intermittent
                    Priority: 2
                    Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                    Unlearning counter: 255
                    Engine speed: 0.00 1/min
                    Normed load value: 0.0 %
                    Vehicle speed: 255 km/h
                    Coolant temperature: 85 °C
                    Intake air temperature: 54 °C
                    Ambient air pressure: 980 mbar
                    Voltage terminal 30: 12.345 V
                    Dynamic environmental data: 209625107A0011BD0CD6133806121610AB151403126EFFFF10100000
            P030000 - Random/Multiple Cylinder Misfire Detected
                Intermittent
            P030100 - Cyl.1 Misfire Detected
                Intermittent
            P030200 - Cyl.2 Misfire Detected
                Intermittent
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Transmission
    
        System description: 0BK 20TFSIUSA
        Software number: 8K0927158AE
        Software version: 1003
        Hardware number: 0BK927156AL
        Hardware version: H18
        ODX name: EV_TCMAL551211
        ODX version: 002022
        Long coding: 000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    03 Brakes
    
        System description: ESP8 quattro
        Software number: 8K9907379N
        Software version: 0020
        Hardware number: 8K9907379N
        Hardware version: H09
        Serial number: --------------
        Long coding: 0E150001
    
        Trouble codes:
            01309 - Power steering control module Please read DTC
                static
                    Priority:  6
                    Frequency counter:  3
                    Driving cycle: 167
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Date: 2021-02-16 21:18:42
            01044 - Control module incorrectly coded
                static
                    Priority:  3
                    Frequency counter:  1
                    Driving cycle: 167
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Date: 2021-02-17 16:28:06
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    04 Steering Angle Sensor
    
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    05 Keyless System
    
        System description: BCM2 2.0
        Software number: 8K0907064JP
        Software version: 0650
        Hardware number: 8K0907064JP
        Hardware version: H14
        Long coding: 0D824040000000000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J764 ELV MLB
            Software number: 8K0905852E
            Software version: 0046
            Hardware version: H40
            Serial number: 0214000105166005   
    
        Trouble codes:
            03286 - Right front exterior door handle touch sensor Open circuit
                static
                    Priority:  2
                    Frequency counter:  1
                    Driving cycle: 167
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Date: 2021-02-16 21:22:34
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    08 Air Conditioning
    
        System description: KLIMA 3 ZONEN
        Software number: 8K1820043AQ
        Software version: 0123
        Hardware number: 8K1820043AQ
        Hardware version: H04
        Serial number: 01100620140048
        Long coding: 6480208000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    09 Central Electrics
    
        System description: BCM1 1.0
        Software number: 8K0907063DH
        Software version: 0103
        Hardware number: 8K0907063DH
        Hardware version: H16
        Serial number: 00000831822401
        Long coding: 26000096863CAFE00100488300003D0D0F9CC70822090201000008004400030100000020000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: MITSUBA250414
            Software number: 8K1955119B
            Software version: 0461
            Hardware version: H18
            Serial number: 1404180703404      
            Long coding: 004577
    
            System description: G397_RLFS   
            Software number: 8U0955559B
            Software version: 0002
            Hardware version: H06
            Serial number: 22739033           
            Long coding: 02005D
    
            System description: E1 - LDS    
            Software number: 8K0941531AS
            Software version: 0031
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: 00000000002705141092
    
            System description: AQ_Hum_Sensor
            Software number: 4H0907658 
            Software version: 0003
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: DDC88037000000000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    15 Airbag
    
        System description: AirbagVW-AU10
        Software number: 8K0959655R
        Software version: 0812
        Hardware number: 8K0959655R
        Hardware version: H51
        Serial number: 003NED12432M
        ODX name: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010
        ODX version: 003114
        Long coding: 304544354A3238313130554A304C384B3053
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    16 Steering Column
    
        System description: Lenks.Modul
        Software number: 8K0953568Q
        Software version: 0003
        Hardware number: 8K0953568Q
        Hardware version: H03
        Serial number: 90862NFC0012C
        Long coding: 000017
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: E221 - MFL  
            Software version: 0004
            Hardware version: H03
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    17 Dashboard
    
        System description: KOMBIINSTR.
        Software number: 8K0920931T
        Software version: 0564
        Hardware number: 8K0920931T
        Hardware version: H35
        Serial number: ZA866K46F
        Long coding: 8BA6290202010008020000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    19 Gateway
    
        System description: GW-BEM 4CAN-M
        Software number: 8R0907468N
        Software version: 0060
        Hardware number: 8R0907468C
        Hardware version: H11
        Serial number: 3041Y145290A0B
        Long coding: 80C303FF00
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J367-BDMHella
            Software number: 8T0915181 
            Software version: 8041
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: 5105353503         
    
        Trouble codes:
            03041 - Energy management active
                Intermittent
                    Priority:  7
                    Frequency counter:  3
                    Driving cycle: 207
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Date: 2021-02-16 21:19:42
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    36 Driver Seat
    
        System description: MEM-FS
        Software number: 8K0959760D
        Software version: 0077
        Hardware number: 8K0959760D
        Hardware version: H06
        Serial number: 00000104865366
        Long coding: 00581B00000000000000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    42 Driver Door
    
        System description: TSG FA
        Software number: 8K0959793R
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959793P
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 0000105536988
        Long coding: 011C13205E00410001
    
        Trouble codes:
            00920 - Heated outside mirrors Electrical error in circuit
                static
                    Priority:  3
                    Frequency counter: 147
                    Driving cycle: 164
                    Mileage: 104396 km
                    Date: 2020-12-13 10:41:12
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    44 Steering Assistance
    
        System description: RCEPS
        Software number: 8K0909144G
        Software version: 0508
        Hardware number: 8K0909144B
        Hardware version: H40
        Serial number: 0015309797
        ODX name: EV_RCEPSAU48X
        ODX version: 008015
        Long coding: 100000000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            C10ACF0 - Steering End stops not learned
                static
                    Date: 2021-02-16 21:14:55
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Priority: 6
                    Malfunction frequency counter: 13
                    Unlearning counter: 167
                    VIN_EEPROM: 38393831
                    VIN_bus_system: 32323638
                    Steering wheel angle: 6089.3 °
                    BUS_SCU_Motor_Angle: 0.0 °
                    BUS_SCU_Nominal_Angle: 0.0 °
                    End_stops_unlearn_reason: unlearned by VIN
                    End_stops_unlearn_reason_hex: 04
            U140A00 - Terminal 30 Open circuit
                Intermittent
                    Date: 2020-01-22 11:45:23
                    Mileage: 107890 km
                    Priority: 2
                    Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                    Unlearning counter: 28
                    Engine speed: 706.00 1/min
                    Vehicle speed: 21.81 km/h
                    Supply voltage, terminal 30: 14.82 V
                    Output stage voltage: 14.82 V
                    Factor_reduction_steering_support_UNT: 0.00
                    Voltage_ASC_DCLink_ref_hex: 60C0
                    Voltage_ASC_DCLink_ref: 2.49 V
            C10AE13 - Electromechanical power steering motor Open circuit
                Intermittent
                    Date: 2020-01-16 10:49:29
                    Mileage: 107740 km
                    Priority: 2
                    Malfunction frequency counter: 13
                    Unlearning counter: 23
                    Persistent_Open_Winding_hex: FF
                    Persistent_Open_Winding_Measurement_Status: 1
                    Persistent_Open_Winding_U_Phase: 1
                    Persistent_Open_Winding_V_Phase: 1
                    Persistent_Open_Winding_W_Phase: 1
                    Persistent_Open_Winding_Error_Counter: 15
                    Counter_Per_Period_defect_phase: 001E
                    PWM_Nominal_defect_phase: FFFA
                    PWM_Distortion_defect_phase: FFE1
                    Sector_DT_Angle_Sector_hex: FF
                    Sector_DT: 15
                    Angle_Sector: 15
                    Motor_Angle_U: 2F52
                    Sector_Evaluation_State: FF
                    Abs_Phase_Current: FFFF
                    Output stage voltage: 11.40 V
                    Engine temperature: -16.6 °C
                    FrittingState_RelayHeatingDone_MotorRestartFlag_SystemState_hex: 30
                    Fritting_State: Init
                    Motor_Restart_Flag: 0
                    System_State: 6
                    Motor_Position_Speed_compr_hex: 00
                    Motor_Position_Speed_compr: 0
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    46 Comfort System
    
        System description: BCM2 2.0
        Software number: 8K0907064JP
        Software version: 0650
        Hardware number: 8K0907064JP
        Hardware version: H14
        Serial number: 0337364921
        Long coding: 0126023A20BA309580B0023200000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: LIN BACKUP HO
            Software number: 1K0951605C
            Software version: 1501
            Hardware version: H05
    
            System description: J245 PS151  
            Software number: 8K0959591C
            Software version: 0043
            Hardware version: H08
    
            System description: J394 PS240  
            Software number: 8K0959591C
            Software version: 0043
            Hardware version: H08
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    52 Passenger Door
    
        System description: TSG BF
        Software number: 8K0959792R
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959792P
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 0000105347817
        Long coding: 011C13205E00410001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    53 Parking Brake
    
        System description: EPB-4
        Software number: 8K0907801N
        Software version: 0005
        Hardware number: 8K0907801J
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 10000000386083
        ODX name: EV_ParkiBrake
        ODX version: 001028
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    56 Radio
    
        System description: Radio U SIRIU
        Software number: 4G0035082G
        Software version: 0133
        Hardware number: 4G0035082
        Hardware version: H60
        Serial number: 156FP0E8020205
        Long coding: 020007020100000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    5F Multimedia
    
        System description: H-BN-NA
        Software number: 8R1035664F
        Software version: 0812
        Hardware number: 8R1035664D
        Hardware version: H41
        Serial number: 203FV0EB005428
        Long coding: 10020005000681ED45008B4E00000403F40000020000000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: NAR 2014    
            Software number: 8R0060884CA
            Software version: 1002
    
            System description: DU7 High    
            Software number: 8R0919604A
            Software version: 0104
            Hardware version: H42
            Serial number: A130FO0E3050457    
    
            System description: E0380 Bedient
            Software number: 8T0919611L
            Software version: 0030
            Hardware version: H02
            Serial number: 00000001883526     
    
            System description: CD-Database 
            Software number: 8R0060961G
            Software version: 5950
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    62 Rear Left Door
    
        System description: TSG HL
        Software number: 8K0959795G
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959795D
        Hardware version: H01
        Serial number: 0000105495631
        Long coding: 010C13204000210001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    6D Deck Lid Control
    
        System description: J605  Master
        Software number: 8K9827851C
        Software version: 0330
        Hardware number: 8K9827851C
        Hardware version: H53
        Serial number: 8K9827851C
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J756  Slave 
            Software number: 8K9827852C
            Software version: 0330
            Hardware version: H53
            Serial number: 8K9827852C         
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    72 Rear Right Door
    
        System description: TSG HR
        Software number: 8K0959795G
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959795D
        Hardware version: H01
        Serial number: 0000104998685
        Long coding: 010C13204000210001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found

  4. #4
    Junior Member Two Rings
    Join Date
    Aug 17 2020
    AZ Member #
    559707
    Location
    Manitoba, Canada

    After clearing codes:
    Code:
    OBDeleven data log
    
    Date: 2021-02-17 19:21
    
        VIN: WA1UFCFL1FA012268
        Car: Audi A4 Allroad
        Year: 2015
        Body type: Avant
        Engine: CPMB
        Mileage: 106940 KM
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Engine
    
        System description: 2.0l R4/4V TF
        Software number: 8K5907115N
        Software version: 0005
        Hardware number: 8K2907115L
        Hardware version: H09
        ODX name: EV_ECM20TFS0118K5907115N
        ODX version: 001006
        Long coding: 722A0013242600062000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Transmission
    
        System description: 0BK 20TFSIUSA
        Software number: 8K0927158AE
        Software version: 1003
        Hardware number: 0BK927156AL
        Hardware version: H18
        ODX name: EV_TCMAL551211
        ODX version: 002022
        Long coding: 000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    03 Brakes
    
        System description: ESP8 quattro
        Software number: 8K9907379N
        Software version: 0020
        Hardware number: 8K9907379N
        Hardware version: H09
        Serial number: --------------
        Long coding: 0E150001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    04 Steering Angle Sensor
    
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    05 Keyless System
    
        System description: BCM2 2.0
        Software number: 8K0907064JP
        Software version: 0650
        Hardware number: 8K0907064JP
        Hardware version: H14
        Long coding: 0D824040000000000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J764 ELV MLB
            Software number: 8K0905852E
            Software version: 0046
            Hardware version: H40
            Serial number: 0214000105166005   
    
        Trouble codes:
            03286 - Right front exterior door handle touch sensor Open circuit
                static
                    Priority:  2
                    Frequency counter:  1
                    Driving cycle: 167
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Date: 2021-02-17 17:08:36
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    08 Air Conditioning
    
        System description: KLIMA 3 ZONEN
        Software number: 8K1820043AQ
        Software version: 0123
        Hardware number: 8K1820043AQ
        Hardware version: H04
        Serial number: 01100620140048
        Long coding: 6480208000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    09 Central Electrics
    
        System description: BCM1 1.0
        Software number: 8K0907063DH
        Software version: 0103
        Hardware number: 8K0907063DH
        Hardware version: H16
        Serial number: 00000831822401
        Long coding: 26000096863CAFE00100488300003D0D0F9CC70822090201000008004400030100000020000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: MITSUBA250414
            Software number: 8K1955119B
            Software version: 0461
            Hardware version: H18
            Serial number: 1404180703404      
            Long coding: 004577
    
            System description: G397_RLFS   
            Software number: 8U0955559B
            Software version: 0002
            Hardware version: H06
            Serial number: 22739033           
            Long coding: 02005D
    
            System description: E1 - LDS    
            Software number: 8K0941531AS
            Software version: 0031
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: 00000000002705141092
    
            System description: AQ_Hum_Sensor
            Software number: 4H0907658 
            Software version: 0003
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: DDC88037000000000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    15 Airbag
    
        System description: AirbagVW-AU10
        Software number: 8K0959655R
        Software version: 0812
        Hardware number: 8K0959655R
        Hardware version: H51
        Serial number: 003NED12432M
        ODX name: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010
        ODX version: 003114
        Long coding: 304544354A3238313130554A304C384B3053
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    16 Steering Column
    
        System description: Lenks.Modul
        Software number: 8K0953568Q
        Software version: 0003
        Hardware number: 8K0953568Q
        Hardware version: H03
        Serial number: 90862NFC0012C
        Long coding: 000017
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: E221 - MFL  
            Software version: 0004
            Hardware version: H03
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    17 Dashboard
    
        System description: KOMBIINSTR.
        Software number: 8K0920931T
        Software version: 0564
        Hardware number: 8K0920931T
        Hardware version: H35
        Serial number: ZA866K46F
        Long coding: 8BA6290202010008020000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    19 Gateway
    
        System description: GW-BEM 4CAN-M
        Software number: 8R0907468N
        Software version: 0060
        Hardware number: 8R0907468C
        Hardware version: H11
        Serial number: 3041Y145290A0B
        Long coding: 80C303FF00
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J367-BDMHella
            Software number: 8T0915181 
            Software version: 8041
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: 5105353503         
    
        Trouble codes:
            03041 - Energy management active
                static
                    Priority:  7
                    Frequency counter: 11
                    Driving cycle: 168
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Date: 2021-02-17 16:58:07
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    36 Driver Seat
    
        System description: MEM-FS
        Software number: 8K0959760D
        Software version: 0077
        Hardware number: 8K0959760D
        Hardware version: H06
        Serial number: 00000104865366
        Long coding: 00581B00000000000000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    42 Driver Door
    
        System description: TSG FA
        Software number: 8K0959793R
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959793P
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 0000105536988
        Long coding: 011C13205E00410001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    44 Steering Assistance
    
        System description: RCEPS
        Software number: 8K0909144G
        Software version: 0508
        Hardware number: 8K0909144B
        Hardware version: H40
        Serial number: 0015309797
        ODX name: EV_RCEPSAU48X
        ODX version: 008015
        Long coding: 100000000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            C10ACF0 - Steering End stops not learned
                static
                    Date: 2021-02-17 17:13:47
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Priority: 6
                    Malfunction frequency counter: 31
                    Unlearning counter: 168
                    VIN_EEPROM: 32323638
                    VIN_bus_system: 32323638
                    Steering wheel angle: 0.1 °
                    BUS_SCU_Motor_Angle: 0.0 °
                    BUS_SCU_Nominal_Angle: 0.0 °
                    End_stops_unlearn_reason: unlearned by Diagnostic Service 31
                    End_stops_unlearn_reason_hex: 05
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    46 Comfort System
    
        System description: BCM2 2.0
        Software number: 8K0907064JP
        Software version: 0650
        Hardware number: 8K0907064JP
        Hardware version: H14
        Serial number: 0337364921
        Long coding: 0126023A20BA309580B0023200000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: LIN BACKUP HO
            Software number: 1K0951605C
            Software version: 1501
            Hardware version: H05
    
            System description: J245 PS151  
            Software number: 8K0959591C
            Software version: 0043
            Hardware version: H08
    
            System description: J394 PS240  
            Software number: 8K0959591C
            Software version: 0043
            Hardware version: H08
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    52 Passenger Door
    
        System description: TSG BF
        Software number: 8K0959792R
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959792P
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 0000105347817
        Long coding: 011C13205E00410001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    53 Parking Brake
    
        System description: EPB-4
        Software number: 8K0907801N
        Software version: 0005
        Hardware number: 8K0907801J
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 10000000386083
        ODX name: EV_ParkiBrake
        ODX version: 001028
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    56 Radio
    
        System description: Radio U SIRIU
        Software number: 4G0035082G
        Software version: 0133
        Hardware number: 4G0035082
        Hardware version: H60
        Serial number: 156FP0E8020205
        Long coding: 020007020100000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    5F Multimedia
    
        System description: H-BN-NA
        Software number: 8R1035664F
        Software version: 0812
        Hardware number: 8R1035664D
        Hardware version: H41
        Serial number: 203FV0EB005428
        Long coding: 10020005000681ED45008B4E00000403F40000020000000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: NAR 2014    
            Software number: 8R0060884CA
            Software version: 1002
    
            System description: DU7 High    
            Software number: 8R0919604A
            Software version: 0104
            Hardware version: H42
            Serial number: A130FO0E3050457    
    
            System description: E0380 Bedient
            Software number: 8T0919611L
            Software version: 0030
            Hardware version: H02
            Serial number: 00000001883526     
    
            System description: CD-Database 
            Software number: 8R0060961G
            Software version: 5950
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    62 Rear Left Door
    
        System description: TSG HL
        Software number: 8K0959795G
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959795D
        Hardware version: H01
        Serial number: 0000105495631
        Long coding: 010C13204000210001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    6D Deck Lid Control
    
        System description: J605  Master
        Software number: 8K9827851C
        Software version: 0330
        Hardware number: 8K9827851C
        Hardware version: H53
        Serial number: 8K9827851C
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J756  Slave 
            Software number: 8K9827852C
            Software version: 0330
            Hardware version: H53
            Serial number: 8K9827852C         
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    72 Rear Right Door
    
        System description: TSG HR
        Software number: 8K0959795G
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959795D
        Hardware version: H01
        Serial number: 0000104998685
        Long coding: 010C13204000210001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    Last edited by shiz222; 02-17-2021 at 09:01 PM.

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    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

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    Yessir...a few minutes ago as a matter of fact.
    It did not work. The obd11 recommends 3 other codes...70xxx(forgot) was the only one that was not instantly rejected...but I wasn't sure if it worked or not as there's no other confirmation.

    To confirm the process I followed:
    Using obd11 pro
    Engine off but accessories on
    044 Steering control module
    Basic settings
    Reset of all learned values for steering assistance.(attached)
    Security Code input
    Click and hold check mark.

    Turn engine on and followed outlined process (turn wheel each side wait a few sec and power off) however there was no audible beep when reaching each end stop. And no obvious change in the fault.
    Screenshot_20210218-132206.jpg

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    I don't have that type of rack to test with. Might be worth paying the dealership the hour labor to adapt the replacement rack.
    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

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    I have access to a vag-com. I wonder if it's an obd11 issue.
    I might try that as a last ditch effort before taking it to the dealership.

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    @Smac770 - question:
    Does it make sense to perform the wheel alignment prior to learning end-stops or after?

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    The alignment should be performed with the rack centered, as physically marked on the rack itself. And the end stops are based on the physical travel limits of the rack, which the alignment should not bother with (though the alignment would validate). So I personally don't see how they would interact.

    But the replace sequence for the electro-mechanical rack has "install both bolts, tighten both bolts, install stabilizer bar, install crossbrace, run the "J500 replace control module" program, perform alignment". So I would assume the alignment would come after the end stop learning.
    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

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    Got into the shop for the alignment alot quicker than i thought. Was out quite a bit - which i expected.

    Update: Holy smokes FIXED the issue! and i don't really think?! i even needed the obd11

    Got the car back from alignment shop.
    Tried clearing the code following the procedure i listed above. Security code 43702 seems the only code that worked. Again same results - no beeps/no learning happening after OBD11 reset learned values for Steering Assistance.
    Got home and came across this video: https://youtu.be/zXyTuW4Eog4?t=229
    On a whim i tried it again using the procedure outlined in the video.
    Turned the car on, foot on brakes, put the car in gear.
    Turned the wheel left all the way...BEEP! (less than 5 sec)
    Turn the car all the way right BEEP!
    Centred the wheel. Code vanished.

    Cleared codes with OBD11, re scanned No Fault Found.

    Code:
    OBDeleven data log
    
    Date: 2021-02-17 19:21
    
        VIN: WA1UFCFL1FA012268
        Car: Audi A4 Allroad
        Year: 2015
        Body type: Avant
        Engine: CPMB
        Mileage: 106940 KM
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    01 Engine
    
        System description: 2.0l R4/4V TF
        Software number: 8K5907115N
        Software version: 0005
        Hardware number: 8K2907115L
        Hardware version: H09
        ODX name: EV_ECM20TFS0118K5907115N
        ODX version: 001006
        Long coding: 722A0013242600062000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    02 Transmission
    
        System description: 0BK 20TFSIUSA
        Software number: 8K0927158AE
        Software version: 1003
        Hardware number: 0BK927156AL
        Hardware version: H18
        ODX name: EV_TCMAL551211
        ODX version: 002022
        Long coding: 000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    03 Brakes
    
        System description: ESP8 quattro
        Software number: 8K9907379N
        Software version: 0020
        Hardware number: 8K9907379N
        Hardware version: H09
        Serial number: --------------
        Long coding: 0E150001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    04 Steering Angle Sensor
    
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    05 Keyless System
    
        System description: BCM2 2.0
        Software number: 8K0907064JP
        Software version: 0650
        Hardware number: 8K0907064JP
        Hardware version: H14
        Long coding: 0D824040000000000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J764 ELV MLB
            Software number: 8K0905852E
            Software version: 0046
            Hardware version: H40
            Serial number: 0214000105166005   
    
        Trouble codes:
            03286 - Right front exterior door handle touch sensor Open circuit
                static
                    Priority:  2
                    Frequency counter:  1
                    Driving cycle: 167
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Date: 2021-02-17 17:08:36
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    08 Air Conditioning
    
        System description: KLIMA 3 ZONEN
        Software number: 8K1820043AQ
        Software version: 0123
        Hardware number: 8K1820043AQ
        Hardware version: H04
        Serial number: 01100620140048
        Long coding: 6480208000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    09 Central Electrics
    
        System description: BCM1 1.0
        Software number: 8K0907063DH
        Software version: 0103
        Hardware number: 8K0907063DH
        Hardware version: H16
        Serial number: 00000831822401
        Long coding: 26000096863CAFE00100488300003D0D0F9CC70822090201000008004400030100000020000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: MITSUBA250414
            Software number: 8K1955119B
            Software version: 0461
            Hardware version: H18
            Serial number: 1404180703404      
            Long coding: 004577
    
            System description: G397_RLFS   
            Software number: 8U0955559B
            Software version: 0002
            Hardware version: H06
            Serial number: 22739033           
            Long coding: 02005D
    
            System description: E1 - LDS    
            Software number: 8K0941531AS
            Software version: 0031
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: 00000000002705141092
    
            System description: AQ_Hum_Sensor
            Software number: 4H0907658 
            Software version: 0003
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: DDC88037000000000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    15 Airbag
    
        System description: AirbagVW-AU10
        Software number: 8K0959655R
        Software version: 0812
        Hardware number: 8K0959655R
        Hardware version: H51
        Serial number: 003NED12432M
        ODX name: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010
        ODX version: 003114
        Long coding: 304544354A3238313130554A304C384B3053
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    16 Steering Column
    
        System description: Lenks.Modul
        Software number: 8K0953568Q
        Software version: 0003
        Hardware number: 8K0953568Q
        Hardware version: H03
        Serial number: 90862NFC0012C
        Long coding: 000017
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: E221 - MFL  
            Software version: 0004
            Hardware version: H03
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    17 Dashboard
    
        System description: KOMBIINSTR.
        Software number: 8K0920931T
        Software version: 0564
        Hardware number: 8K0920931T
        Hardware version: H35
        Serial number: ZA866K46F
        Long coding: 8BA6290202010008020000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    19 Gateway
    
        System description: GW-BEM 4CAN-M
        Software number: 8R0907468N
        Software version: 0060
        Hardware number: 8R0907468C
        Hardware version: H11
        Serial number: 3041Y145290A0B
        Long coding: 80C303FF00
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J367-BDMHella
            Software number: 8T0915181 
            Software version: 8041
            Hardware version: H03
            Serial number: 5105353503         
    
        Trouble codes:
            03041 - Energy management active
                static
                    Priority:  7
                    Frequency counter: 11
                    Driving cycle: 168
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Date: 2021-02-17 16:58:07
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    36 Driver Seat
    
        System description: MEM-FS
        Software number: 8K0959760D
        Software version: 0077
        Hardware number: 8K0959760D
        Hardware version: H06
        Serial number: 00000104865366
        Long coding: 00581B00000000000000
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    42 Driver Door
    
        System description: TSG FA
        Software number: 8K0959793R
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959793P
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 0000105536988
        Long coding: 011C13205E00410001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    44 Steering Assistance
    
        System description: RCEPS
        Software number: 8K0909144G
        Software version: 0508
        Hardware number: 8K0909144B
        Hardware version: H40
        Serial number: 0015309797
        ODX name: EV_RCEPSAU48X
        ODX version: 008015
        Long coding: 100000000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            C10ACF0 - Steering End stops not learned
                static
                    Date: 2021-02-17 17:13:47
                    Mileage: 106942 km
                    Priority: 6
                    Malfunction frequency counter: 31
                    Unlearning counter: 168
                    VIN_EEPROM: 32323638
                    VIN_bus_system: 32323638
                    Steering wheel angle: 0.1 °
                    BUS_SCU_Motor_Angle: 0.0 °
                    BUS_SCU_Nominal_Angle: 0.0 °
                    End_stops_unlearn_reason: unlearned by Diagnostic Service 31
                    End_stops_unlearn_reason_hex: 05
    
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    46 Comfort System
    
        System description: BCM2 2.0
        Software number: 8K0907064JP
        Software version: 0650
        Hardware number: 8K0907064JP
        Hardware version: H14
        Serial number: 0337364921
        Long coding: 0126023A20BA309580B0023200000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: LIN BACKUP HO
            Software number: 1K0951605C
            Software version: 1501
            Hardware version: H05
    
            System description: J245 PS151  
            Software number: 8K0959591C
            Software version: 0043
            Hardware version: H08
    
            System description: J394 PS240  
            Software number: 8K0959591C
            Software version: 0043
            Hardware version: H08
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    52 Passenger Door
    
        System description: TSG BF
        Software number: 8K0959792R
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959792P
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 0000105347817
        Long coding: 011C13205E00410001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    53 Parking Brake
    
        System description: EPB-4
        Software number: 8K0907801N
        Software version: 0005
        Hardware number: 8K0907801J
        Hardware version: H02
        Serial number: 10000000386083
        ODX name: EV_ParkiBrake
        ODX version: 001028
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    56 Radio
    
        System description: Radio U SIRIU
        Software number: 4G0035082G
        Software version: 0133
        Hardware number: 4G0035082
        Hardware version: H60
        Serial number: 156FP0E8020205
        Long coding: 020007020100000001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    5F Multimedia
    
        System description: H-BN-NA
        Software number: 8R1035664F
        Software version: 0812
        Hardware number: 8R1035664D
        Hardware version: H41
        Serial number: 203FV0EB005428
        Long coding: 10020005000681ED45008B4E00000403F40000020000000000
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: NAR 2014    
            Software number: 8R0060884CA
            Software version: 1002
    
            System description: DU7 High    
            Software number: 8R0919604A
            Software version: 0104
            Hardware version: H42
            Serial number: A130FO0E3050457    
    
            System description: E0380 Bedient
            Software number: 8T0919611L
            Software version: 0030
            Hardware version: H02
            Serial number: 00000001883526     
    
            System description: CD-Database 
            Software number: 8R0060961G
            Software version: 5950
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    62 Rear Left Door
    
        System description: TSG HL
        Software number: 8K0959795G
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959795D
        Hardware version: H01
        Serial number: 0000105495631
        Long coding: 010C13204000210001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    6D Deck Lid Control
    
        System description: J605  Master
        Software number: 8K9827851C
        Software version: 0330
        Hardware number: 8K9827851C
        Hardware version: H53
        Serial number: 8K9827851C
    
        Subsystems:
            System description: J756  Slave 
            Software number: 8K9827852C
            Software version: 0330
            Hardware version: H53
            Serial number: 8K9827852C         
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    72 Rear Right Door
    
        System description: TSG HR
        Software number: 8K0959795G
        Software version: 0510
        Hardware number: 8K0959795D
        Hardware version: H01
        Serial number: 0000104998685
        Long coding: 010C13204000210001
    
        Trouble codes:
            No trouble codes found

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    Yeah, saw that video but couldn't get through it for all the stupid music; hell they didn't even play the beep that was supposed to occur.

    But the take away is the difference between the video and the ross-tech page is being in gear when doing the steering wheel turning. We'll never know for sure unless a dealership tech says "yes, that's what the computer program says to do". Or maybe the difference only matters here or there and is not consistent.

    Glad you got it resolved.
    2009 A4 Avant 2.0T quattro Prestige, 275k miles

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    Hmm I must have missed the notification for this thread. I had accidentally started my car without the canbus gateway plugged in and had to relearn end stops as well. I learned from reversing into the garage and having to go full lock one way that it beeped and read that one end stop, which I then tested the other end stop and it recorded that as well.
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