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    Cigarette Lighter ISSUE!

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    HELLO guys!

    Hope you all are well. So i’m having this issue and it’s driving me crazy. Apparently all my cigarette lighters DO NOT WORK!
    I have swaped the fuses in the trunk. There are 2 - 20v fuses by the name of socket changed them but still nothing.

    I have 4 cigarette lighters. 1 in the front, 2 in the back & 1 in the trunk.
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    Can someone please tell me what could the issue be? Is there any other fuse i should look for? Any other main wire which i should look for? Which might be unplugged or something?. There’s apparently no voltage the last time i checked in the cigarette lighter

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    U1 - Front center console
    SF3 fuse (Panel F-2)

    U9 - Rear center console *with smoking package
    U18 - 12V Rear center console
    U19 - 12V luggage
    U20 - 12V Rear center console
    SF4 fuse (Panel F-2)

    I assume those are the two fuses you changed...were they blown or you just changed them anyway?
    Should have been in the trunk middle row of small fuses #3 & #4

    Did you check your battery? Is it original 9+years old? BEM may start to shut off less important electrical items, I don't know if that includes 12V sockets.

    Also perhaps check the ground connections of the sockets.

    Here is another resource where I believe they just call them "Sockets"
    https://fuse-box.info/audi/audi-a7-s...010-2018-fuses

    There is also a "Sockets" Relay -J807- also in the trunk panel furthest toward front of the car and closest to trunk floor position #3.
    You could maybe check if there is an identical relay there and try swapping it.
    This might be the relay, but of course do your own check.
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    Thank you for your detailed reply.

    Can you please explain what do you mean by U9 etc?

    Also yes i swapped out the two fuses in the trunk named as socket. They were not blown but i still changed them but still couldn’t get the sockets to work. The battery was recently replaced so its good as new. Everything works perfectly in the car except for this. In the trunk they are the big fuses not the small ones

    Will see for the relay. Hoping there is some more relay like it in the box so i can swap and verify if its the relay. If its not the relay, what should i do? VCDS does not scans for any such code which might be linked with this issue.

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    So quick update. I did swap out the relays but couldnt get it to work still.
    Now if i’ll have to assume all my relays are bad chances are quiet low

    Someone please help😫
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    Quote Originally Posted by gk1 View Post
    U1 - Front center console
    SF3 fuse (Panel F-2)

    U9 - Rear center console *with smoking package
    U18 - 12V Rear center console
    U19 - 12V luggage
    U20 - 12V Rear center console
    SF4 fuse (Panel F-2)

    I assume those are the two fuses you changed...were they blown or you just changed them anyway?
    Should have been in the trunk middle row of small fuses #3 & #4

    Did you check your battery? Is it original 9+years old? BEM may start to shut off less important electrical items, I don't know if that includes 12V sockets.

    Also perhaps check the ground connections of the sockets.

    Here is another resource where I believe they just call them "Sockets"
    https://fuse-box.info/audi/audi-a7-s...010-2018-fuses

    There is also a "Sockets" Relay -J807- also in the trunk panel furthest toward front of the car and closest to trunk floor position #3.
    You could maybe check if there is an identical relay there and try swapping it.
    This might be the relay, but of course do your own check.
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    U9 etc. is just the name for the 12v socket
    Unfortunately I don't have any other ideas to offer, sorry.
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    Since the various auxiliary power outlets are on different fuses/relays, it's hard to imagine what would cause all of them to fail suddenly and simultaneously with no blown fuses, no other electrical problems and no codes on VCDS. How do you know the power outlets are not working? What are you plugging into the outlet? Maybe what you are plugging in is the source of the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    Since the various auxiliary power outlets are on different fuses/relays, it's hard to imagine what would cause all of them to fail suddenly and simultaneously with no blown fuses, no other electrical problems and no codes on VCDS. How do you know the power outlets are not working? What are you plugging into the outlet? Maybe what you are plugging in is the source of the problem?
    Have tried using another adopter but still nothing. This is extremely odd agreed.
    If someone knows any relays or any other fuse which might be linked to this?

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    Dumb question but have to ask, are you trying this with the ignition on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasDfwS4 View Post
    Dumb question but have to ask, are you trying this with the ignition on?
    No further response, so I think you solved the problem. Tricky Texan!
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    I do think you should give up smoking..........

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    Haha yes with the ignition on.

    And no i haven’t solved the issue yet. Just left it as it is until someone recommends looking at something. I’ve replaced fuses a billion times buying them but never helped to fix the issue. I hope someone has something for me to look for

    I need it to charge my phones on long journeys. Power banks are not the best solution

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    Edited my post after rereading the thread and seeing someone already suggested what I was going to and you had already answered.

    As previously said, the outlets are on different circuits, so to have them all not working is very strange indeed.

    Are you the first owner? Could the previous owner have disconnected them for some reason? An easy one to check the wiring on is the one in the trunk, you should be able to pop the panel containing it out and see if the wiring is connected without much hassle.

    Now I am wondering if it is possible to disable them with coding in VCDS......

    I'll poke around and see if that thought goes anywhere.

    Also, doing a little reading on some other forums, someone had a similar issue and solved it by disconnecting the battery for several hours, and when reconnected, all outlets worked.

    Do you have any faults in the Central Convenience module?

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    I found this on audiworld. post 19
    https://www.audiworld.com/forums/a8-...rking-2909491/
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
    Haha yes with the ignition on.

    And no i haven’t solved the issue yet. Just left it as it is until someone recommends looking at something. I’ve replaced fuses a billion times buying them but never helped to fix the issue. I hope someone has something for me to look for

    I need it to charge my phones on long journeys. Power banks are not the best solution
    Are the cigarette lighter illumination bulbs on or off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    Are the cigarette lighter illumination bulbs on or off?
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    Quote Originally Posted by orphancrippler View Post
    Edited my post after rereading the thread and seeing someone already suggested what I was going to and you had already answered.

    As previously said, the outlets are on different circuits, so to have them all not working is very strange indeed.

    Are you the first owner? Could the previous owner have disconnected them for some reason? An easy one to check the wiring on is the one in the trunk, you should be able to pop the panel containing it out and see if the wiring is connected without much hassle.

    Now I am wondering if it is possible to disable them with coding in VCDS......

    I'll poke around and see if that thought goes anywhere.

    Also, doing a little reading on some other forums, someone had a similar issue and solved it by disconnecting the battery for several hours, and when reconnected, all outlets worked.

    Do you have any faults in the Central Convenience module?

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    I assume you’re talking about the 12v connection in the trunk which is also near to the fuse box. We need to remove that cover to access the fuse box? If that then yes it is connected.

    I’ve no idea what wire could be unplugged or what is causing this not to work. Everything in the car works except for this the odd thing is all don’t work so apparently there is something missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
    There’s apparently no voltage the last time i checked in the cigarette lighter
    I don't know if this is possible but maybe you can use your multimeter to check for voltage at the fuse panel.
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    All fuses are ok. Have checked it myself and got it checked from a shop as well that’s the worst part

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    I don't know if this is possible but maybe you can use your multimeter to check for voltage at the fuse panel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
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    Other folk will have more knowledge than me, but looking at the wiring diagrams, the power to the bulb appears to be the same wire that powers the lighter. If the bulb is getting power but you cannot measure voltage at any of the "sockets", my guess would be some physical/mechanical problem at the socket itself. Why all of them might be damaged is beyond me. As noted in post #13, maybe a previous owner disconnected them?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    Other folk will have more knowledge than me, but looking at the wiring diagrams, the power to the bulb appears to be the same wire that powers the lighter. If the bulb is getting power but you cannot measure voltage at any of the "sockets", my guess would be some physical/mechanical problem at the socket itself. Why all of them might be damaged is beyond me. As noted in post #13, maybe a previous owner disconnected them?
    If anyone disconnected them which is beyond all of us. How do i reconnect them? I did took apart the center console for the gear it was all connected or maybe ive to look for some other wire?

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    So an update. I was just playing around i plugged in my charging dock and was looking at it while turning on the ignition. Apparently when the ignition turns on the lighter port starts working for 1 sec and shuts off again. What could it possibly mean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
    So an update. I was just playing around i plugged in my charging dock and was looking at it while turning on the ignition. Apparently when the ignition turns on the lighter port starts working for 1 sec and shuts off again. What could it possibly mean?
    Not all accessories are compatible with Audi per owner's manual.
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    Maybe your battery is on its way out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
    So an update. I was just playing around i plugged in my charging dock and was looking at it while turning on the ignition. Apparently when the ignition turns on the lighter port starts working for 1 sec and shuts off again. What could it possibly mean?
    This seems like either a hardware incompatibility, or something wacky with coding. The fact that it comes on at all, even momentarily, means that the socket is getting power, at least some of the time. The car could be disabling them to protect itself maybe?

    I thought I blew out the wiring for one of my rear door puddle lights, I shorted the wires together when trying to rig up a connector while replacing the lights. Everything else worked fine, no fuses blown, no codes, all 3 other puddle lights worked, the entire rest of the door worked fine, but no puddle light. Tried switching light modules back to OEM, nothing. Someone on AZ or AW had a topic about their experience with a similar issue, and just leaving it alone for a few days fixed it. I decided to just let it be, and what do you know? 2 days later, I opened the door and the light worked.

    Just an anecdotal bit of info to demonstrate that our cars can do things and not set codes or blow fuses or anything, and sometimes can just reset themselves. I've seen a surprising amount of issues be fixed by just disconnecting the battery overnight and reconnecting in the morning, or at least for 4-6 hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ichi d View Post
    Maybe your battery is on its way out?
    Its a new battery

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
    So an update. I was just playing around i plugged in my charging dock and was looking at it while turning on the ignition. Apparently when the ignition turns on the lighter port starts working for 1 sec and shuts off again. What could it possibly mean?
    1. Measure it with a meter, if it states 12V+ then fine
    2. Try something that will not draw too much juice (small light)
    3. https://www.amazon.com/LIHAN-Charger.../dp/B01M9IKYVH

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasDfwS4 View Post
    Did you try this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soft View Post
    1. Measure it with a meter, if it states 12V+ then fine
    2. Try something that will not draw too much juice (small light)
    3. https://www.amazon.com/LIHAN-Charger.../dp/B01M9IKYVH

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    As soon as the power goes off it does not supply 12v. It shows i think 0. Something or 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by TexasDfwS4 View Post
    Did you try this?
    I did try plugging in other chargers but its still the same thing. Tried the socket thing but nothing.
    Power cuts off on all 4 when the ignition starts after getting power for just a second

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
    Its a new battery
    Was it coded in? Did you either fully recode it with the new BEM code or at least do the trick where you just change the last digit of the old one?

    Reason I ask is that if your old battery was dying, to the point where the car's energy management system would have started disabling stuff to reduce current drain, and then you changed the battery but didn't re-code it, the car will still behave as if you have your old, tired battery in. It doesn't matter that the car can measure that the new oneis charging better or holding it's voltage more consistently, if the BEM code hasn't been changed, it's operating as if you haven't changed it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orphancrippler View Post
    I've seen a surprising amount of issues be fixed by just disconnecting the battery overnight and reconnecting in the morning, or at least for 4-6 hours.
    That's a great thing to remember always, like rebooting the MMI. From lots of reading of AZ threads, I'm getting a sense that in it's zeal to lock down the platform, Audi has introduced a lot of complexity that can create some odd problems.

    That said, from other threads OP's car is a (very) used 2012 A7. One comment is "But the previous guy had taped the wire to it so and had grounded it to a bolt by cutting one of the wires maybe so i assume he already tried his luck then sold it off". So who knows what's up with the electrical system, battery recoding, and the various computers/modules. Aleemzee is either the hard luck kid or a distant cousin to Mike0819.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    That's a great thing to remember always, like rebooting the MMI. From lots of reading of AZ threads, I'm getting a sense that in it's zeal to lock down the platform, Audi has introduced a lot of complexity that can create some odd problems.

    That said, from other threads OP's car is a (very) used 2012 A7. One comment is "But the previous guy had taped the wire to it so and had grounded it to a bolt by cutting one of the wires maybe so i assume he already tried his luck then sold it off". So who knows what's up with the electrical system, battery recoding, and the various computers/modules. Aleemzee is either the hard luck kid or a distant cousin to Mike0819.
    Completely agree with you there. There seems to be a ton of unnecessary dependencies and complications, especially when you get into older cars. I did not know that it was in that kind of shape, this may end up being something that we can't figure out, especially if other "fixes" have been done before he even got the car.

    I was thinking it has been a little quiet around here lately, mike not spamming the forum with 8 posts about the 8 new DTCs he found that day, all the while telling us how he took his car to the shop and they told him he's going to have to swap his DSG out for a CVT and they'll be happy to do it for $20k, but he already owes them 18 of that for the disassembly and also his car is in 2000 pieces on the shop floor, so he might as well just fork over the $ and enjoy his newly found fuel economy He has me dying sometimes.

    I think some people see the rings and think, oh this is a luxury car, it might have a lot of miles on it, but the previous owner HAD to maintain it well, it's an Audi for God's sake! Unfortunately, not the case for a lot of cars, and even if that is true, the excessive complexity of the underlying systems that make everything work absolutely works against the car and whomever happens to own it when things start breaking or dying.

    Mike..... Is that you over there? Don't think you're fooling us, we're on to you.

    I kid, but at least this guy is willing to go and try stuff and listen to people, although we still have a lack of an auto-scan or anything from VCDS that may help. Mike just blasts a few posts out, ignores all the answers (which by now are almost all roasting him or sarcastic, which he did to himself) and proceeds to tell us how much money he gave to "the shop" to fix it, and how it's only going to take 4 months for them to change a tail-light assembly, lol.

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    So guys an update. After owning the car for 3 months just few mins ago all ports magically started working 🤯

    Thank you all for your kind help. Don’t know for how long will they work, i’ll report back if it stays like this or stops working

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
    So guys an update. After owning the car for 3 months just few mins ago all ports magically started working

    Thank you all for your kind help. Don’t know for how long will they work, i’ll report back if it stays like this or stops working
    Hey that's awesome! Please let us know if they stop working, but I'm glad you got that sorted out, kind of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by orphancrippler View Post
    Hey that's awesome! Please let us know if they stop working, but I'm glad you got that sorted out, kind of.

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    Wasn’t really me. I just did whatever you guys kept telling me to do and found no luck and i’ve no idea how come it’s working again maybe something reset itself. I’ll definitely report back in a couple of days for an update

    About the VCDS i do have it but left it at my mechanic shop since he wanted to borrow it but there were no codes for anything related to sockets. I had two codes one was for engine mount and the other was for C1706 Door Contact Switch - Signal implausible for which i’ve another post. Can’t get my adaptive cruise control to work due to this error. So been figuring out what to do

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    Thank you everyone for your efforts & expert opinions

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    Just an update. It’s not working again i noticed it turns on itself sometimes very rarely and 99.99% of the times it doesn’t

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    Quote Originally Posted by aleemzee View Post
    Just an update. It’s not working again i noticed it turns on itself sometimes very rarely and 99.99% of the times it doesn’t
    Maybe instead of asking an auto mechanic, ask an electrician who has proper test equipment.
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