Lowering Links

[4-ring-sleepers]

Got mine on today !

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[2016 RS-7]

Just FYI. Tire change mode is a thing. At least on my cayenne you have to effectively turn off auto leveling before you put the car in the air or the compressors are going to go nuts trying to keep the car level. So was the fail here that he did, or didn’t use tire change mode?


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So the end result from Audi was, by not putting it in Tire Change mode, with lowering links especially it over actuated the rears and over filled the air bags, with over extending the Module controler that the link is connected to the gearing in side stopped so when trying to recycle it would no longer signal to lower which would of bleed out air in the bag to a choosen mode, like comfort , all-road, dynamic. Over extending when on a 4 post lift when not in Tire Change Mode cooked the Modules in the rear. Lesson learned for me and the Tire shop.
All is well and no codes or worries, Just like it was before wheel change.

Thanks Nathan

[SctsOut06]

So the end result from Audi was, by not putting it in Tire Change mode, with lowering links especially it over actuated the rears and over filled the air bags, with over extending the Module controler that the link is connected to the gearing in side stopped so when trying to recycle it would no longer signal to lower which would of bleed out air in the bag to a choosen mode, like comfort , all-road, dynamic. Over extending when on a 4 post lift when not in Tire Change Mode cooked the Modules in the rear. Lesson learned for me and the Tire shop.
All is well and no codes or worries, Just like it was before wheel change.

Thanks Nathan

Ouch!

Glad you were able to get it figured out though.

Makes me want to put a big note on my car any time I take it in for service to remind them about tire change mode...


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[NewYorkS6]

or just put it into tire change mode when you drop it off

[schmove]

or just put it into tire change mode when you drop it off

Problem is tire change mode turns off when the car is driven over a certain mph. I tried it and it just turns off from backing out of my garage.

[NewYorkS6]

good to know. sucks. but good to know

[has6]

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I had this same issue on mine. I could not get rid of the codes.

I ended up taking the links off, putting the stock ones back on, and driving for a couple days.

Then I cleared all the suspension fault codes with an ODBEleven, reinstalled the links, and haven’t had an issue since.

It’s super frustrating- that’s for sure.


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Did you ever figure out the issue? I took them off the other day and it looks like the rear right side link somehow got lengthened and of course that would throw the sensors haywire. Readjusted the lengths and put them back on and (fingers crossed) no codes yet. Only problem now is my stance isn't the same as before and I have to deal with this negative rake look with the rears slightly lower than the fronts. fml. just for once I wish the 'do it nice, or do it twice' saying wouldn't apply to this situation. A CETE module takes away from my new wheel/rubber fund! Gah!

[SctsOut06]

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Did you ever figure out the issue? I took them off the other day and it looks like the rear right side link somehow got lengthened and of course that would throw the sensors haywire. Readjusted the lengths and put them back on and (fingers crossed) no codes yet. Only problem now is my stance isn't the same as before and I have to deal with this negative rake look with the rears slightly lower than the fronts. fml. just for once I wish the 'do it nice, or do it twice' saying wouldn't apply to this situation. A CETE module takes away from my new wheel/rubber fund! Gah!

Funny you ask.

So, I was able to get it corrected after I pulled everything off and drove on stock links and then put the links back on.

Unfortunately, the right rear was sitting a tad bit higher - so I drove for a couple weeks Bc I didn’t have time to mess with it.

Fast forward to this weekend. Got everything adjusted and leveled and lowered the whole car like literally an 1/8th of an inch.

Now all the warning lights are back on AGAIN. No matter how many ignition cycle resets and clearing the codes - and what’s funny is that it the lights won’t be on when I first drive, but every time it comes on it is the same amount of time driving. Not Bc I hit a bump or anything - it’s about 4 minutes into a drive.

Needless to say I ordered a CETE yesterday Bc it’s driving me nuts. Wished I would have started there


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[subaruski]

Everyone read this before ordering links. There are so many people here that have gone the link first route and end up ordering CETE.

Needless to say I ordered a CETE yesterday Bc it’s driving me nuts. Wished I would have started there

[Chris.green]

Everyone read this before ordering links. There are so many people here that have gone the link first route and end up ordering CETE.

This man woke up and chose facts

[SctsOut06]

This man woke up and chose facts

I gave it a shot... what can I say.

With the opportunity cost I’ve lost now reinstalling and screwing around with the links I could have bought two modules.


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[FFM]

I don’t get the issue with the links. I set it and forget it and haven’t had any problems. Car just went in for its first prepaid service and they didn’t say a thing about them either so obviously must not be causing any faults.

[JGreen76]

I don’t get the issue with the links. I set it and forget it and haven’t had any problems. Car just went in for its first prepaid service and they didn’t say a thing about them either so obviously must not be causing any faults.

Feel lucky!

[SctsOut06]

I don’t get the issue with the links. I set it and forget it and haven’t had any problems. Car just went in for its first prepaid service and they didn’t say a thing about them either so obviously must not be causing any faults.

I wish I could figure it out. There is literally no rhyme or reason to why I get the faults. It happens at all different heights and speeds.

I think it’s quite literally just my car.


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[FFM]

Feel lucky!

Not really, it’s just a super simple system that’s been around for a long time. Tricking leveling sensors isn’t new technology and merely changing a voltage signal. So it seems weird why any car would have an issue, especially considering it’s one that comes from the factory is adjustable leveling. It’s designed to be changed haha.

[dcroberts]

Love the look when lowered and just received a set of links to install myself. Once installed and you're adjusting for the height you want, what drive setting are you using to determine when you've hit the mark?

Said another way, if you look at the photos in this thread of @JGreen76 @Miranda@Nemesis @Nam_saying @OMGHI, are these photos with the car sitting in Dynamic?

I suspect the thing to do is go through the install, then check the height on Dynamic. If I dialed it in when set to Auto then later set it to Dynamic, I'm afraid it would be too low. Curious what you all have done.

[Nam_saying]

Love the look when lowered and just received a set of links to install myself. Once installed and you're adjusting for the height you want, what drive setting are you using to determine when you've hit the mark?

Said another way, if you look at the photos in this thread of @JGreen76 @Miranda@Nemesis @Nam_saying @OMGHI, are these photos with the car sitting in Dynamic?

I suspect the thing to do is go through the install, then check the height on Dynamic. If I dialed it in when set to Auto then later set it to Dynamic, I'm afraid it would be too low. Curious what you all have done.

For me, I adjusted the height in off road mode for clearance and then lowered to dynamic to see how i wanted it to sit.. if you achieved youre desired height in auto, you are correct, in dynamic it may be too low which could cause a code to pop up. I think all of us on links sit at around the same height and we havent ran into issues. Tempted to go lower but we’ll see once my wheels arrive!


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[dcroberts]

Thanks for confirming, hope to get them installed later this week. I'll watch for some photos of your wheels arrival

[Killerboots]

If anyone needs some lowering links for their B9 SQ5, let me know. I have a brand new set of Airmatic ones ready to ship.

[MIannatto]

How bad were the suspension adjustments after the install of the lowering links? i.e. camber, toe, etc... I'm seeing some of you post that dynamic mode is too low, does that mean it rubs on the inside or too low for personal preference? Do the headlights need to be adjusted afterwards? I know it's a lot of questions, but I can't justify buying CETE and I haven't been able to find a company in South Florida that will lower Audi's using the Audi ScanTool

[F10TT]

How bad were the suspension adjustments after the install of the lowering links? i.e. camber, toe, etc... I'm seeing some of you post that dynamic mode is too low, does that mean it rubs on the inside or too low for personal preference? Do the headlights need to be adjusted afterwards? I know it's a lot of questions, but I can't justify buying CETE and I haven't been able to find a company in South Florida that will lower Audi's using the Audi ScanTool

Mine was less than 1.25 degrees drivers front camber, and less than 1.5 degrees camber on rear wheels on MTM links right out of the package with no adjustments. I'm running 20s still, no rubbing. Headlights did not need to be adjusted.

[Cherk947]

Installed Airmatic Lowering Links today on my 2022 SQ5. The install was not bad and dialing them in was also not to bad. in Dynamic I am sitting at 29.75 Front and 30 in the rear. Need to get my spacers on then probably an alignment.

[goosh]

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The one from AZ is mine now, and I'm in Tampa! If I'm not mistaken there's another dude that has one in Jacksonville.

[TheMysticWizard]

Installed AirMatic Lowering Links and dialed in my desired ride height.

Before links, I went somewhere flat and measured my ride height.

In Dynamic with stock links it was sitting as:

FL - 30 1/2" FR - 30 5/8"
RL - 31" RR - 31 1/8"

It seemed like a good idea to get it closer to equal all around so with 3 adjustments I obtained, in Dynamic:

FL - 29 5/8" FR - 29 5/8"
RL - 29 7/8" RR - 29 7/8"

I like it, I think it's a good compromise, a bit lower but not crazy low and doesn't ride too bad.
Probably need some spacers now, but I'm also contemplating changing wheels and tires, so not totally sure what's going to happen with that yet.








(excuse the dirty car, drove a total of 465 miles with about 80 of that being on track and haven't had a chance to wash it yet.)

[SnoWhit3]

I have a set if anyone is interested. Pm me


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[Tyler230]

Is an alignment required if installing links and spacers?

[ADG05]

Is an alignment required if installing links and spacers?

Anytime you modify the suspension height I would say you should get an alignment. I just did mine and it was pretty far off the manufactures limits.

[kennypsmith]

Do you have any pictures from different angles with the spacers now on? I’m considering 15/20 or 10/20. I want a wider look in the back vs front. Thanks!

Spacers on, and pretty low.Attachment 223577


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[Mops@Nemesis]

Do you have any pictures from different angles with the spacers now on? I’m considering 15/20 or 10/20. I want a wider look in the back vs front. Thanks!

If you want obvious stagger, 12/20 is the play for sure. I can provide if needed. Here is 15/20 -

[Damon@IE]

Just reading over this thread, for anyone that has issues with lowering links possibly falling off or causing errors and then the bag getting stuck at full fill, just manually bleed each line at the manifold in the back by cracking the lines loose and then once all is vented, tighten and start the car.

[MacR]

This thread was a great advertisement for CETE for me.

I'm seeing you guys speak of alignments after the links. Is an alignment needed for the CETE module? I would guess no?

[Mythos_SQ590]

If the vehicle is lowered below the stock settings it should get an alignment.

[scavokRS3]

On my B9.5 SQ5 I went with MTM lowering links. Very satisfied.

I know there is a CETE thread, but this thread is for everyone to post up their links.

After some adjustments my settings are:

Front:29.25”
Rear: 29.75”

I found with having the front half inch lower it significantly improves handling.Attachment 218321Attachment 218322Attachment 218323


Later this week I have spacers arriving. Might lower some more. Loving this set up and ride!


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Looks really nice! Picking up my SQ5 next week, and will install the links next day. What do you recommend the best way of adjusting? I've read some people do it when the vehicle is at the highest setting, and others may do it in comfort mode.
Thanks!

[Mythos_SQ590]

Looks really nice! Picking up my SQ5 next week, and will install the links next day. What do you recommend the best way of adjusting? I've read some people do it when the vehicle is at the highest setting, and others may do it in comfort mode.
Thanks!

Highest setting, select wheel change, turn the car off and take the key about 20ft away for 15 mins so the car sleeps(clears memory settings), install new links, turn car on, unselect wheel change.

Getting the car to sleep and selecting the wheel change is critical. I received error codes until I figured this out.

Front: shorter = lower
Rear: longer = lower

[scavokRS3]

Highest setting, select wheel change, turn the car off and take the key about 20ft away for 15 mins so the car sleeps(clears memory settings), install new links, turn car on, unselect wheel change.

Getting the car to sleep and selecting the wheel change is critical. I received error codes until I figured this out.

Front: shorter = lower
Rear: longer = lower

Awesome! Thanks for the good tips! How many turns for each link was the sweet spot?

[Mythos_SQ590]

Awesome! Thanks for the good tips! How many turns for each link was the sweet spot?

I don’t recall. I’d make the fronts shorter and rears longer than OEM as a starting point.

[scavokRS3]

I don’t recall. I’d make the fronts shorter and rears longer than OEM as a starting point.

I have access to an alignment rack, so I assume I don't have to put the vehicle into spare tire mode for the install. That seem correct?

[Mythos_SQ590]

I have access to an alignment rack, so I assume I don't have to put the vehicle into spare tire mode for the install. That seem correct?

If the highlighted aren’t selected then it will cause errors.

[scavokRS3]

If the highlighted aren’t selected then it will cause errors.

Fair enough! I appreciate all your help.

[Hostile]

I have access to an alignment rack, so I assume I don't have to put the vehicle into spare tire mode for the install. That seem correct?

What does an alignment rack have to do with it? The point of putting the car into off-road and tire change modes is so the car knows where to set the ride height. The alignment is irrelevant to this.