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    The Pacific German RS6 & RS7 Build Catalog

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    The Pacific German RS6 & RS7 Build Catalog

    What's up Audizine! We have decided to put together this little catalog to document some of the RS6 and RS7 cars that we've had through the shop now. It has been an immensely popular car around the shop lately, usually having one or two around at all times. I have snapped some photos and will put a few videos together to go over most of the cars we have through the door, covering everything from lowering to exhausts, tuning, wheels, and full aero packages. Hopefully this thread can help with some ideas and even build inspiration for those who are looking to enhance their car.

    Instead of spamming this post with a ton of cars all at once, I will roll out a few at a time. We have had over a dozen RS6 / RS7 through the shop now since our first ABT RS6-R build 3 months ago which is pretty cool, but there are still a ton of cars on order that makes this exciting!

    Here is a short list of some popular upgrades that are available for these cars, most of which we have experience with. If you see something else that is not listed, just ask!

    *Lowering via the factory Scan tool- with the use of ODIS (factory scan tool software) we can run a test plan in which the car will reset the standard ride height based on values that we input. Essentially the car thinks its too high, and will lower down anywhere from 1mm to 30mm on average for this C8 chassis, completely up to your request. This means all drive select modes of the car will be lowered so you will still have plenty clearance to scale large driveways and dips, but can ride low around town and where its needed. This test plan is ideal as its completely hidden with no changes or additions in hardware made to the vehicle. One thing to also consider is that the test plan will force the car to read the full range of travel from the suspension during this process, meaning the dampers may be affected by lowering and calibrated to the lower height. Theoretically the car may ride smoother than alternative ways of lowering.
    **A huge note, these cars need to be aligned after lowering. The front and rear toe is all over the place, and the rear wheels camber in. Its beneficial for tire longevity and high speed stability to do this at the same time as lowering.**

    *Matrix Headlight Enabling - the United States have been lucky to receive the correct hardware for Matrix Headlights, but the lighting was disabled in software for the American market. Luckily through some software programming we can flash European files to these cars and enable this feature in just a few hours of time. Here is a link to show the lights in action - https://www.instagram.com/p/CRKULjjj..._web_copy_link

    *ABT - We offer anything from full ABT RS6-R and ABT RS7-R conversions to even just the individually offered parts such as wheels, sway bars, interior carbon trims, power module, etc. We completed the first RS6-R for the USA, you can see that above. The quality and attention to detail is second to none, these parts certainly add another level of exclusivity to your vehicle.

    *Exhaust Systems - Akrapovic, Milltek, ABT, Capristo, and AWE tuning are the latest options so far. We've installed them all, and each shares a unique tone from the 4.0tt engine. I have a sound clip video comparison coming up a few posts into this thread. There are more sound clip videos for each system, as well as some sound clips for the CTS Turbo resonator delete kits which have been very popular.

    *Wheels / Tires - Most brands are available, but the brakes are huge so this means the majority of cast wheels may or may not fit depending on spoke designs. Luckily there are some great choices with confirmed fit from ABT, HRE, and Vossen. We are also suppliers for other brands including Rotiform, KlassenID, Brixton, and Vorsteiner for those looking for custom forged offerings, and can wrap them in good Michelin, Continental, or Pirelli tires . In house we utilize the latest equipment from Hunter for touchless mounting, road force balancing, and four wheel alignments.

    *Tuning & Power - Power upgrades available from ABT, with also a full flash tune from Unitronic, VF Engineering, Integrated Engineering, and APR, we can get you sorted. Gains are quite impressive just for pump fuel! There are even turbo upgrades available from TTE (listed as the TTE1020 kits) that we are currently tuning with Unitronic. We also have a bunch of BMC air filters and CSF Intercooler sets IN STOCK! Air intakes are available from Eventuri, Unitronic, Integrated Engineering, and APR to let these engines breath.


    Even with the fun stuff aside, we are a full service and repair facility located in Laguna Hills, California. We are equipped with the latest tools and repair information licensed from Audi to ensure the highest level of quality for every job. Our staff is built up of Audi enthusiasts who deliver outstanding care for each and every vehicle. We've seen over 100 2021+ RS6 & RS7 cars now to date (2024) and chances are we are more familiar with these than your local dealer.


    If you have any questions regarding your current or incoming project, feel free to reach out!
    [email protected] is best to contact, or call the shop at 949.215.7717 and ask for myself or Tyler.
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    Last edited by Shawn@PacificGerman; 04-28-2024 at 07:18 PM.

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    The first post deserves the first RS6 that we had in at the shop. Once ABT had announced their RS6-R, we had a client reach out to source the kit for his ordered RS6. After going over the details he decided to order the entire RS6-R kit with all of the optional add-ons! It was delivered to a dealer in Texas and road tripped over to us with three thousand break in miles on the clock. This was to be one of the first RS6-R's in the USA, and we completed the build within a week after the car arrived! Stay tuned as this one will be back in from time to time for more upgrades as things become available.

    Some notes of this build:

    Engine
    ABT engine control unit (from 591 hp / 590 lb-ft up to 690 hp / 649 lb-ft)
    ABT stainless steel exhaust system with four carbon fiber end pipe bezels

    Tires / Brakes / Suspension
    ABT high performance HR22 flow form 22" wheels
    ABT anti-roll bars set
    Lowering via factory Audi scan tool
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    Complete ABT RS6-R aerodynamics package
    ABT front lip with carbon fiber front blades, front trim piece, front lip add-on with red RS6-R logo, front side rocker panels, mirror caps, front grille add-on, and front flics
    ABT carbon fiber rear side rocker panels, rear trim piece, rear skirt add-on, roof spoiler with carbon fiber side panels
    ABT "1 of 125" dashboard and door sill panels, start/stop cap, floor mats with RS6-R logo, entrance lights, carbon fiber shift knob, carbon fiber seat panels, carbon fiber dashboard side covers
    Full front PPF with Ceramic Pro paint protection

    Calm Before the Storm.































    For the following shots, credit goes to @food4audis and @florescaimages from Instagram











    Auditography did a feature of the car! Check out the video which highlights some details of the ABT RS6-R kit.


    Here is a link to the ABT-America write up -

    https://abt-america.com/news/news/th...a-californian/

    Here is a link to the Audi Club NA write up -

    https://audiclubna.org/the-very-firs...a-californian/

    Here is a link to ABT-America's product page for the RS6-R package and additional parts -

    https://abt-america.com/fileadmin/pr...Audi_RS6-R.pdf


    To learn more about the ABT RS6-R or if you are looking for other ABT / RS6 goodies, check out the links below.

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    ABT: https://abt-america.com/limited-editions/abt-rs6-r/




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    Awesome write up and looking forward to seeing more!
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    Lowering!

    Next up was a Nardo Gray on Black Optics RS6 brought in to us with only 50 miles on the clock! This belongs to AZ member Sandjunkie and he wasted no time lowering the car as it came to us the morning after he took delivery! The plan was to lower the car right away as he had wheels on order. Naturally its the best thing to start any build with!

    We lowered this RS6 down 20mm from factory height for a modest drop from factory. Here are some shots while it was still at factory height in dynamic mode on the drive select.







    Here's a couple shots provided by Sandjunkie showing off the new ride height.





    Here is a quick video showing the car in dynamic mode after being lowered. Pardon the basic commentary and iPhone recording





    Then we had our first RS7 drop by the shop. This was a Glacier White on Black Optics car that desperately needed a drop. The owner asked us to go as low as it possibly could, so we dropped it down 30mm front and rear from the factory height. The results are shown below, with the vehicle in dynamic ride height (all the way down). I actually took some video of this car to display the height but something happened to the memory card and I lost the footage, however I managed to get some video of another car that I will post soon displaying all heights of drive select once the car is lowered.









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    Time for an exhaust!

    This RS6 dropped in for a Milltek Exhaust System. This is a non resonated cat back exhaust, and this is the "no cutting" version meaning its a full plug and play system that bolts to the factory catalysts. Check out the added center valve, a neat option that piggy backs off the rear valve motors to open up the system and introduce the "h-pipe" for more flow and a deeper tone!

    This RS6 was also lowered around 20mm from factory and has some other goodies incoming!





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    Great video with the Milltek! Miss the Milltek sounds I had on the S6- will have to consider this.

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    Great looking cars.

    Are you able to reprogram the ride height for each drive mode and have different heights for each mode?

    Or when you lower it 25m using ODIS, is it -25mm for all three drive modes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    Great looking cars.

    Are you able to reprogram the ride height for each drive mode and have different heights for each mode?

    Or when you lower it 25m using ODIS, is it -25mm for all three drive modes?
    Curious about this as well. Any issues going this direction over CETE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    Great looking cars.

    Are you able to reprogram the ride height for each drive mode and have different heights for each mode?

    Or when you lower it 25m using ODIS, is it -25mm for all three drive modes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gpoulos View Post
    Curious about this as well. Any issues going this direction over CETE?
    I've had it done since 50 miles on the clock. No issues at all. No scrapes, No issues with any sensors, and most importantly all done with the factory system so no warranty issues or eventually something else to go wrong. I still am able to raise the car if I encounter something really steep, but most of the time I don't have to touch it.

    20mm down all around and 10/12 spacers
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    Great looking cars.

    Are you able to reprogram the ride height for each drive mode and have different heights for each mode?

    Or when you lower it 25m using ODIS, is it -25mm for all three drive modes?
    Quote Originally Posted by gpoulos View Post
    Curious about this as well. Any issues going this direction over CETE?
    With ODIS there is only one adjustment and it affects all modes. A good reference, 25mm lower than stock will essentially make your current Dynamic mode the new comfort mode. Still pretty manageable for big dips and driveways.

    We can also do the CETE module but the factory adjustment with the scan tool is a nice approach that fits the bill for most individuals.

    Quote Originally Posted by sandjunkie View Post
    I've had it done since 50 miles on the clock. No issues at all. No scrapes, No issues with any sensors, and most importantly all done with the factory system so no warranty issues or eventually something else to go wrong. I still am able to raise the car if I encounter something really steep, but most of the time I don't have to touch it.

    20mm down all around and 10/12 spacers
    Thanks for the input

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    Quote Originally Posted by sandjunkie View Post
    I've had it done since 50 miles on the clock. No issues at all. No scrapes, No issues with any sensors, and most importantly all done with the factory system so no warranty issues or eventually something else to go wrong. I still am able to raise the car if I encounter something really steep, but most of the time I don't have to touch it.

    20mm down all around and 10/12 spacers
    When you go to the dealer for service, won't they immediately notice that it's been lowered?
    And if so and something goes sideways with the air suspension, is it possible for them to argue that it's a problem because you've been driving at a height much lower than the factory suspension is engineered for?

    Doubtful anything would happen, but looking at contingencies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PacificGerman View Post
    With ODIS there is only one adjustment and it affects all modes. A good reference, 25mm lower than stock will essentially make your current Dynamic mode the new comfort mode. Still pretty manageable for big dips and driveways.
    For clarification.

    So when you lower the RS6 with the ODIS tool by say -25mm... Comfort, Auto, and Dynamic will all be -25mm after that?

    I didn't understand your comment about the current Dynamic mode being the new Comfort mode after lowering w the factory tool. Aren't all modes, at least in the US market, the same ride height from the factory and the only change to the suspension after changing modes is the damping?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    When you go to the dealer for service, won't they immediately notice that it's been lowered?
    And if so and something goes sideways with the air suspension, is it possible for them to argue that it's a problem because you've been driving at a height much lower than the factory suspension is engineered for?

    Doubtful anything would happen, but looking at contingencies.
    Haven't been to the dealer yet, but how can they argue that height is much lower than the factory suspension is engineered for when it is within the factory parameters?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandjunkie View Post
    Haven't been to the dealer yet, but how can they argue that height is much lower than the factory suspension is engineered for when it is within the factory parameters?

    How do you know a lowered ride height is within the factory parameters? I believe it only drops 10mm at speed. 20-25mm is double+ that.

    The engine can easily push 650hp with a tune as evidenced by Porsche and Lambo, but Audi isn't cool with tuning the RS6.

    Just because it can, doesn't mean they want you to :)

    Just playing devil's advocate.

    It's probably fine.
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    My service manager recommended to me doing it this way, I’ll be at pacific German here shortly. Get my wheels on tomorrow and going to make my appt after that. Had to cancel the first one since the stock tpms were bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    How do you know a lowered ride height is within the factory parameters? I believe it only drops 10mm at speed. 20-25mm is double+ that.

    The engine can easily push 650hp with a tune as evidenced by Porsche and Lambo, but Audi isn't cool with tuning the RS6.

    Just because it can, doesn't mean they want you to :)

    Just playing devil's advocate.

    It's probably fine.
    This is a setup in the factory system. An ECU tune is adding non-factory software coding. This method of lowering does not add anything that is not already in the factory system. I'll let Shawn fill in the details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sdaudiguy View Post
    My service manager recommended to me doing it this way, I’ll be at pacific German here shortly. Get my wheels on tomorrow and going to make my appt after that. Had to cancel the first one since the stock tpms were bad...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    How do you know a lowered ride height is within the factory parameters? I believe it only drops 10mm at speed. 20-25mm is double+ that.

    The engine can easily push 650hp with a tune as evidenced by Porsche and Lambo, but Audi isn't cool with tuning the RS6.

    Just because it can, doesn't mean they want you to :)

    Just playing devil's advocate.

    It's probably fine.
    I was told by my local dealer that their technicians wont lower it due to liability since they are not allowed to change settings outside normal parameters.

    I would rather go with ODIS over CETE if the dealers have no issues with it being lower. I dont see myself playing with ride heights 99% of the time. But if it would be flagged for being too low i guess you can either go CETE and hope they dont see it or go back to your shop and have them quickly raise it prior to your yearly service...
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    For clarification.

    So when you lower the RS6 with the ODIS tool by say -25mm... Comfort, Auto, and Dynamic will all be -25mm after that?

    I didn't understand your comment about the current Dynamic mode being the new Comfort mode after lowering w the factory tool. Aren't all modes, at least in the US market, the same ride height from the factory and the only change to the suspension after changing modes is the damping?
    Yes, all will be -25mm after the ODIS change. So, for an easy example (note, i'm making these values up):

    STOCK
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    Dynamic = 75

    ODIS -25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treeskier View Post
    Yes, all will be -25mm after the ODIS change. So, for an easy example (note, i'm making these values up):

    STOCK
    Comfort = 100
    Dynamic = 75

    ODIS -25
    Comfort = 75
    Dynamic = 50

    I'm sorry if I'm being dense...

    If you set the car to -25mm using the ODIS, and all three modes (Comfort, Auto, and Dynamic) are the same height from the factory before and after being lowered, what do the other values you posted mean?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sandjunkie View Post
    This is a setup in the factory system. An ECU tune is adding non-factory software coding. This method of lowering does not add anything that is not already in the factory system. I'll let Shawn fill in the details.

    - - - Updated - - -
    I think you missed my point. When I was referring to the tune, I meant the state of our engine from the factory. As evidenced by the Panamera and the Urus, the engine can run a higher state of tune from their respective factories. Audi chose not to run it as high for some reason.

    Audi may not want the car running at a reduced ride height because it could wear the suspension components out sooner since they're not operating in their designed range of motion. When you take ride height out, you're shortening suspension travel and increasing compression. Hence the diminished ride quality.

    Do I think it will cause a problem? Probably not, at least in the short term (several years). Could Audi make a big deal about it if something goes wrong with the suspension? Maybe. Did I lower my car anyway? Yep :)

    I do think if you can find someone with the ODIS and you're ok being that low all the time, it's a great option! But I wouldn't say it's "dealerproof" in this day and age.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treeskier View Post
    Yes, all will be -25mm after the ODIS change. So, for an easy example (note, i'm making these values up):

    STOCK
    Comfort = 100
    Dynamic = 75

    ODIS -25
    Comfort = 75
    Dynamic = 50
    Yeah as far as I can tell dynamic comfort and auto are all the same height on the RS6 except at highway speeds when dynamic lowers 10mm. The rs7 drops the 10mm in dynamic at all times. Someone able to confirm this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    I think you missed my point. When I was referring to the tune, I meant the state of our engine from the factory. As evidenced by the Panamera and the Urus, the engine can run a higher state of tune from their respective factories. Audi chose not to run it as high for some reason.

    Audi may not want the car running at a reduced ride height because it could wear the suspension components out sooner since they're not operating in their designed range of motion. When you take ride height out, you're shortening suspension travel and increasing compression. Hence the diminished ride quality.

    Do I think it will cause a problem? Probably not, at least in the short term (several years). Could Audi make a big deal about it if something goes wrong with the suspension? Maybe. Did I lower my car anyway? Yep :)

    I do think if you can find someone with the ODIS and you're ok being that low all the time, it's a great option! But I wouldn't say it's "dealerproof" in this day and age.
    I think you missed my point but that's ok. There is probably not a setting in the stock engine management software to pick your boost level. There is a setting for ride height within a given set of paramenters. If Audi wasn't ok with this, they wouldn't have put it in there or the parameters would have been tighter.

    Porsche and Lamborghini software for the same engine are still not Audi factory software that the RS6 was delivered with.

    I agree that nothing is 100% dealer/warranty proof from a mod perspective but this is about as close as your going to get.
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    For clarification, lowering with ODIS lowers all heights. So if you desire to drop the car 20mm, you still have full functionality of the drive select and ability to raise or lower the car, however each height is now 20mm lower than before.

    I would imagine in most instances the dealer won't notice the lowered height if you drove into a dealership in auto or comfort mode. However ODIS does not leave a trace in the system that the car has been lowered, nor does ODIS flash any module so its a very light footprint. In any instance lowering a car can change Audi's intended use and wear on components, however ODIS only allows lowering within a certain window so I believe you are less likely to wear something out even at a 20mm drop. For reference, European cars usually sit a bit lower than the US spec cars.

    From our experiences on the older C7 platforms that we've lowered since 2013 with the S6 / S7, and also completely stock cars, they wear down control arm bushings regardless, but we have yet to see a failed air strut or damper in either form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PacificGerman View Post
    Can't wait to see that Navarra Blue in Xpel Stealth!
    Trying to avoid coming up in the rain but soon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PacificGerman View Post
    For clarification, lowering with ODIS lowers all heights. So if you desire to drop the car 20mm, you still have full functionality of the drive select and ability to raise or lower the car, however each height is now 20mm lower than before.

    I would imagine in most instances the dealer won't notice the lowered height if you drove into a dealership in auto or comfort mode. However ODIS does not leave a trace in the system that the car has been lowered, nor does ODIS flash any module so its a very light footprint. In any instance lowering a car can change Audi's intended use and wear on components, however ODIS only allows lowering within a certain window so I believe you are less likely to wear something out even at a 20mm drop. For reference, European cars usually sit a bit lower than the US spec cars.

    From our experiences on the older C7 platforms that we've lowered since 2013 with the S6 / S7, and also completely stock cars, they wear down control arm bushings regardless, but we have yet to see a failed air strut or damper in either form.
    Thanks for the info. Good stuff end everything you say makes sense.

    My car (RS6), at least in stock form, has the exact same ride height in all 3 modes in the RS6, unless you're on the interstate and maintaining a speed over 75mph in Auto Or Dynamic, at which point it lowers 10mm on it's own.

    Are you referring to a different model where you can lower the car at rest or lower speeds in Dynamic? mode? I "think" the RS7 may behave like that.

    Also, if you lower the car by 25mm with the ODIS, does that mean you'll be at -35mm if you're in an RS6 on the interstate in either Auto or Dynamic?

    Any idea how much the temporary low speed factory lift is? +10 maybe? And is that a front axle lift or both ends? I've never tested it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    Thanks for the info. Good stuff end everything you say makes sense.

    My car (RS6), at least in stock form, has the exact same ride height in all 3 modes in the RS6, unless you're on the interstate and maintaining a speed over 75mph in Auto Or Dynamic, at which point it lowers 10mm on it's own.

    Are you referring to a different model where you can lower the car at rest or lower speeds in Dynamic? mode? I "think" the RS7 may behave like that.

    Also, if you lower the car by 25mm with the ODIS, does that mean you'll be at -35mm if you're in an RS6 on the interstate in either Auto or Dynamic?

    Any idea how much the temporary low speed factory lift is? +10 maybe? And is that a front axle lift or both ends? I've never tested it.

    I wish you were closer, seem like a great shop!
    I will soon have another RS6 in and make a video for you displaying the changes in height. If I am lucky I will try to get someone to drive on the road next to me and exceed 75mph to see if it drops also.

    If I remember correctly, the RS6 has the same heights in any drive select mode and only raises or lowers by pressing the bottom right button. I believe the RS7 changes height with each drive select button and the bottom right is an override for all the way up or all the way down.

    At the moment I only have an RSQ8 within arms reach and this also changes height with each drive select button and the bottom right is an override for all the way up or all the way down.

    I had videos specifically of an RS6 and RS7 from a few weeks back had issues with the memory card.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PacificGerman View Post
    I will soon have another RS6 in and make a video for you displaying the changes in height. If I am lucky I will try to get someone to drive on the road next to me and exceed 75mph to see if it drops also.

    If I remember correctly, the RS6 has the same heights in any drive select mode and only raises or lowers by pressing the bottom right button. I believe the RS7 changes height with each drive select button and the bottom right is an override for all the way up or all the way down.

    At the moment I only have an RSQ8 within arms reach and this also changes height with each drive select button and the bottom right is an override for all the way up or all the way down.

    I had videos specifically of an RS6 and RS7 from a few weeks back had issues with the memory card.
    In mine stock it lowers at speed but not at rest in dynamic and auto but not comfort. You can press the button but it will never go below 3 bars without being at speed but it will go up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdaudiguy View Post
    In mine stock it lowers at speed but not at rest in dynamic and auto but not comfort. You can press the button but it will never go below 3 bars without being at speed but it will go up.
    This.




    The RS6 keeps the same ride height in all three modes.

    You cannot manually lower the car in any of the modes.

    You can manually raise the car, I think it's +10mm or so, but it's only temporary and lowers back to normal height when you exceed a certain speed.

    The RS6 will lower on its own when you exceed 75mph if you're in Auto or Dynamic, but will not lower at that speed in Comfort.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PacificGerman View Post
    I will soon have another RS6 in and make a video for you displaying the changes in height. If I am lucky I will try to get someone to drive on the road next to me and exceed 75mph to see if it drops also.

    If I remember correctly, the RS6 has the same heights in any drive select mode and only raises or lowers by pressing the bottom right button. I believe the RS7 changes height with each drive select button and the bottom right is an override for all the way up or all the way down.

    At the moment I only have an RSQ8 within arms reach and this also changes height with each drive select button and the bottom right is an override for all the way up or all the way down.

    I had videos specifically of an RS6 and RS7 from a few weeks back had issues with the memory card.
    Do u have to realign the car if you lower using the factory method?

    My dealer is willing to do for me


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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzone View Post
    Do u have to realign the car if you lower using the factory method?

    My dealer is willing to do for me


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    Since you're a mechanical engineer by trade and a fellow race car driver. Well in your case, former driver... :)

    I'll answer your question with a question.

    If you lower the car by 25mm using links and it needs an alignment due to excess camber, and if you lower the car using a CETE by 25mm and it needs an alignment due to excess camber... What makes you think lowering the car 25mm using the ODIS would not require an alignment?

    Full disclosure, Izzone is a personal friend and he would have skewered me online over a question like this LOL Hopefully I don't have egg all over my face and find out that lowering using the ODIS doesn't require an alignment for some weird reason :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    Since you're a mechanical engineer by trade and a fellow race car driver. Well in your case, former driver... :)

    I'll answer your question with a question.

    If you lower the car by 25mm using links and it needs an alignment due to excess camber, and if you lower the car using a CETE by 25mm and it needs an alignment due to excess camber... What makes you think lowering the car 25mm using the ODIS would not require an alignment?

    Full disclosure, Izzone is a personal friend and he would have skewered me online over a question like this LOL Hopefully I don't have egg all over my face and find out that lowering using the ODIS doesn't require an alignment for some weird reason :)
    Did u realign ur car when u lowered w ur android app?

    I get slamMing it, but a few mm drop like the car naturally does w air, wasn’t sure

    My dealer wants to realign...but realign w all the factory gizmos for drivers assist is not cheap
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izzone View Post
    Did u realign ur car when u lowered w ur android app?

    I get slamMing it, but a few mm drop like the car naturally does w air, wasn’t sure

    My dealer wants to realign...but realign w all the factory gizmos for drivers assist is not cheap
    Yes, I realigned my car after lowering it with my non IOS device. Passive aggressive MF'er LOL 25mm is more than just a "few mm" though...

    And if you factor in that the car drops another 10mm at speed, you could be down as low as 35mm while running on the interstate. Wearing the insides of your tires out. and possibly changing the handling.

    Of course the dealer want to realign the driver's assist sensors. It's probably part of the protocol and they do charge a handsome sum for it.

    That being said, not necessary IMO. At -25mm, all the driver's assist features work as intended. I occasionally get a front end object warning on a very steep drive or the adaptive doesn't like hills sometimes depending on the length and grade, but it behaved that way before lowering it.

    Everything seems to work the same after lowering it.

    Get it aligned, but don't bother with adjusting the sensors. I have alignment specs if you don't use the dealer and your shop (assuming Nero's) doesn't have 21 RS6 specs in his rack computer.
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    Just wrapped up lowering sdaudiguy's Navarra beast. Will have some photos and video of the height up soon.

    Also still have several other cars to post up! Stay tuned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shawn@PacificGerman View Post
    Just wrapped up lowering sdaudiguy's Navarra beast. Will have some photos and video of the height up soon.

    Also still have several other cars to post up! Stay tuned.
    Thanks guys! It was a pleasure to meet everyone and look forward to bringing it back for more :)
    Heres my crappy pics of before and after
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdaudiguy View Post
    Thanks guys! It was a pleasure to meet everyone and look forward to bringing it back for more :)
    Heres my crappy pics of before and after
    12121g.jpg12221b.jpg

    Looks great!

    How much lower is our car now? 25mm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeputyDog95 View Post
    Looks great!

    How much lower is our car now? 25mm?
    Yep went for the common 25mm :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by sdaudiguy View Post
    Yep went for the common 25mm :)
    That seems to be the best blend of aesthetics, clearance, and ride quality. Looks really nice!
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