00562 - Sensor for Oil Level/Temperature (G266) fault

[5kcstq]

Hello all. Trying to sort out a glitch that has developed in my 01 S4 Avant. The "Oil Sensor" warning light came on and I'm having trouble getting the fault found. I pulled codes with VAG-COM and found 00562 29-10 Short To Ground - Intermittent.

Replaced the sensor with new Hella part - problem remains

Checked voltages at the sensor. 12v pin 1 (red/black), Good ground Pin 2 (brown), .4V key on Pin 3 (red/gray)

Checked continuity on pin 15 (signal wire) Violet, green plug on IC. Good there

Can clear the code but it returns after about 1 minute or so.

Any thoughts? At this point I'm suspecting something failed in the IC.

Thanks for any help!

[Rufrob]

Hi.
I’m in a similar situation.
All the research indicates just change the sensor with the OEM dealer one.
I have change my sensor 4 times finally with the OEM one and the light is still on.
If I unplug the instrument cluster and reconnect it, the light is out and it works for a couple of minutes.
I took it to the dealer and they said it could be the cluster. they couldn’t recode the S4 cluster I bought because the RS4 cluster is different and not compatible.
So I’m stuck with an S4 cluster 3 good used sensors and the light still on.
Hopefully you have better luck than me.


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[5kcstq]

I'm going to see about having the cluster repaired... not much else to do. I'll report back if I can find someone to do that.

[PoVolks]

I am dealing with the same exact issue on mine. Just swapped sensors with a used factory sensor and same fault. I just finished a 6spd swap on the car but the sensor issue came up months later after I have been putting miles on the car. I'm leaning towards a wiring break.

I will try an overlay first before buying a cluster.

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[Rufrob]

Excuse my ignorance but what is an overlay?


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[Protection]

Excuse my ignorance but what is an overlay?


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It means to run a replacement wire. Sometimes as a permanent fix or alternatively to check if replacing the wire cures the fault. If so, you then know where the problem lies.

The main drawback to overlays, besides not being esthetically pleasing, is that usually where there is one corroded or pinched wire, there are more.


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[Rufrob]

Ok. Thanks. I tried that. I tried jumping a signal from the coolant temp sensor, and running a new wire directly to the gauge. Probably I didn’t do it properly.
The weird thing is if I unplug and reconnect the gauge cluster it’s works for a couple of minutes. Same if I disconnect the battery. When I have time and money at the next oil change and try the dealer sensor.


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Ok. Thanks. I tried that. I tried jumping a signal from the coolant temp sensor, and running a new wire directly to the gauge. Probably I didn’t do it properly.
The weird thing is if I unplug and reconnect the gauge cluster it’s works for a couple of minutes. Same if I disconnect the battery. When I have time and money at the next oil change and try the dealer sensor.


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I know there was some talk about it being a possible cluster issue, but the reason it may work momentarily after unplugging the cluster is that if the cluster is seeing something it doesn’t like (such as high voltage on a wire that should not have high voltage) it can shut of power to the circuit to protect itself. When you unplug the cluster it resets and then takes a few minutes to see the high voltage again and shut down.

I have had good experiences with Hella oil sensors on both my B5 S4 and my B6 A4. The factory sensor is made by Hella. On one of the Hella sensors I purchased, you could see where the Audi logo was burnished off the sensor. I presume because they use the same casting mold but are prohibited from selling it with the Audi logo.

It may be a bit of a pain in the arse, but the best way I can think of to test the sensor is with an oscilloscope. You could backprobe the signal wire and see what it is reporting. You could also probe the power feed. Honestly, if you spend much time wrenching on cars, owning a scope and learning how to use it is a solid investment. It has saved me hundreds of $$ over the years in parts that would have been loaded into the “parts cannon”—in addition to hours of my time. There are cheap scopes out there such as the AES Wave Uscope. But I’ll get off my soapbox.

Because of where it lives, the most likely suspect is the harness itself or the connector. I would check to see if the terminals in the connector are all clean and snug (that the terminal is not spread apart so it makes good contact with the pins on the sensors). Then I would inspect the wiring going into the sensor, that the insulation isn’t wearing off and shorting the wires together.


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[Rufrob]

Yes. I bought a few of those sensors too with the VW/Audi logo taken off.
I know one of the receptors in the connector looks iffy but there isn’t much I could do about it.
If I remember correctly when I couldn’t tested for continuity for the power wire. Because I don’t have a probe small enough to test the connector at the gauge cluster.


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[5kcstq]

Quick update: Swapped clusters with a known good and installed my cluster onto other S4. Problem followed my cluster, so definitely verified I have a problem in the cluster itself. So the initial diag was correct, voltages in first post are right and cluster is at fault.

Got another cluster on the way to swap in. Now need to find the VAG-K+CAN COMMANDER 2.5 software to set the correct mileage in the new cluster

[Rufrob]

Quick update: Swapped clusters with a known good and installed my cluster onto other S4. Problem followed my cluster, so definitely verified I have a problem in the cluster itself. So the initial diag was correct, voltages in first post are right and cluster is at fault.

Got another cluster on the way to swap in. Now need to find the VAG-K+CAN COMMANDER 2.5 software to set the correct mileage in the new cluster

I tried several VAG-K CAN Commander too but gave up. None of them would work on my car. Buying RossTech is expensive. Let me know how you fair.


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[5kcstq]

Problem is fixed!

Put a new cluster in from a donor S4. Problem is solved. So it was definitely a cluster problem in my case.

Now just need to program out the Tiptronic and NAV info and set the correct odometer reading.

Hopefully the info helps any others who start getting the 00562 "sensor" issue

[Rufrob]

How did you get it programmed?


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[5kcstq]

I coded and adapted it with VAG-COM. I still need to set the mileage, which I guess requires VAG K+ CAN Commander, which I'm still trying to get hold of.

If it helps, here's the coding and adaptation for my 6 Speed 2001.5 Avant US Market
17 Instruments
Soft Coding: 02264
Adaptation Channels:
60 - 1025 (this is the trans adaptation, 1025 for manual 1027 for Tip)
62 - 0 (this is the radio, 0 for non nav 2 for nav)

[xalents23]

You can use the Xtool VAG401 to change the mileage on a unmodified B5 S4 cluster. They are like $52 shipped on Amazon. I put a thread about the product below.

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...M-replacement)

[5kcstq]

Quick update to thread. I was able to successfully code the correct mileage in the replacement cluster using a cheap chinee VAG K+CAN Commander USB Dongle and a copy of the software. Use "kline" communication and connect to Kombi/Instruments. Then it was as easy as converting desired mileage to KM's and inputting correct KM's. Pull fuse 15 after setting mileage to get it picked up.

That was all it took. So now mileage matches and the oil lever sensor issue is fixed.

Hope that helps

[Rufrob]

How to get the dongle?


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[Rufrob]

Are these clusters compatible?



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[Rufrob]

I coded and adapted it with VAG-COM. I still need to set the mileage, which I guess requires VAG K+ CAN Commander, which I'm still trying to get hold of.

If it helps, here's the coding and adaptation for my 6 Speed 2001.5 Avant US Market
17 Instruments
Soft Coding: 02264
Adaptation Channels:
60 - 1025 (this is the trans adaptation, 1025 for manual 1027 for Tip)
62 - 0 (this is the radio, 0 for non nav 2 for nav)

Hi. Can you tell me which version of VAG k+ Can you used and where you got it? I’ve tried 3 so far and none seem to work


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[PoVolks]

I coded and adapted it with VAG-COM. I still need to set the mileage, which I guess requires VAG K+ CAN Commander, which I'm still trying to get hold of.

If it helps, here's the coding and adaptation for my 6 Speed 2001.5 Avant US Market
17 Instruments
Soft Coding: 02264
Adaptation Channels:
60 - 1025 (this is the trans adaptation, 1025 for manual 1027 for Tip)
62 - 0 (this is the radio, 0 for non nav 2 for nav)

I recently swapped my tip to stick, and later on (months later) the oil sensor fault came up.... I wonder if my cluster is at fault also.

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