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    Need new brake pads and rotors for my 2016 Audi A6 3.0T I heard some good things about Zimmerman but some people said the bite isn’t even as good as oem. Definitely want something equal to or better than oem. Any suggestions??


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    No objective testing and can't tell you about track use but in street/highway the Hawk/Zimmermann combo feels at least as good as OEM.
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    Bite is going to be more of a factor of your brake pads than the rotor surface. If you want equal to or better than OEM you'll probably want something metallic or semi-metallic as they have better cold bite.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vinng86 View Post
    Bite is going to be more of a factor of your brake pads than the rotor surface. If you want equal to or better than OEM you'll probably want something metallic or semi-metallic as they have better cold bite.
    Seems like the Zimmerman from fcp come with ceramic


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    I just installed Hawk HPS and Zimmerman rotors. A little gripper than oem metallics and certainly cleaner and quieter. I’m happy


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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUS4 View Post
    I just installed Hawk HPS and Zimmerman rotors. A little gripper than oem metallics and certainly cleaner and quieter. I’m happy


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    Where did you buy all from? Mind sharing the total?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_elgy View Post
    Where did you buy all from? Mind sharing the total?


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    FCP Euro has Zimmermann rotors, about $325 each for front, $80 each for rear. Free shipping also. I got Hawk pads at Tire Rack. Looks like they are on sale at the moment, $135 front and $93 rear for the HPS 5.0, plus $20 rebate from Hawk. Again, free shipping. I'm sure there are other sources.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    FCP Euro has Zimmermann rotors, about $325 each for front, $80 each for rear. Free shipping also. I got Hawk pads at Tire Rack. Looks like they are on sale at the moment, $135 front and $93 rear for the HPS 5.0, plus $20 rebate from Hawk. Again, free shipping. I'm sure there are other sources.
    Thank you!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_elgy View Post
    Thank you!


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    FCP has them less than that actually. And with their free shipping and return policy this could be the last set you ever buy. Anything you buy from FCP can be returned for full replacement including oil and filter, you just have to pay the shipping to get it to them

    https://www.fcpeuro.com/Audi-parts/A...&b=8&d=4493&v=

    You can get a complete kit front and back for $410.

    The cross drill and slotted are strictly bling as they really don't help any more with the current brake pad technology. They were designed originally to help get rid of exhaust brake gasses but with the change in technology its not really needed any more. Depending on your application it might actually be a bad idea. Cross drilled and slotted can and will overheat and break/crack with heavy track type brake use.

    Even knowing that i still went cross drilled and slotted for my daily driven A7 simply for the bling factor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valpo A7 View Post
    FCP has them less than that actually. And with their free shipping and return policy this could be the last set you ever buy. Anything you buy from FCP can be returned for full replacement including oil and filter, you just have to pay the shipping to get it to them

    https://www.fcpeuro.com/Audi-parts/A...&b=8&d=4493&v=

    You can get a complete kit front and back for $410.

    The cross drill and slotted are strictly bling as they really don't help any more with the current brake pad technology. They were designed originally to help get rid of exhaust brake gasses but with the change in technology its not really needed any more. Depending on your application it might actually be a bad idea. Cross drilled and slotted can and will overheat and break/crack with heavy track type brake use.

    Even knowing that i still went cross drilled and slotted for my daily driven A7 simply for the bling factor
    Right, I was planing on going with the cross drilled because I like the look and I heard it has small benefits. I may upgrade the pads to semi metallic


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    Quote Originally Posted by ANMS4 View Post
    I just ordered the same thing but without the cross drilled. Also couldn’t get the coupon to work for some reason so I may try and contact them


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    Thanks everyone for the help. I ordered the Zimmerman rotors and Ake pads from fcp. May replace the pads with semi metallic if I don’t like the feel


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    Quote Originally Posted by Valpo A7 View Post
    FCP has them less than that actually. You can get a complete kit front and back for $410.
    You're right. I was quoting for S6; darn, we get soaked! Nick_elgy and ANMS4, please follow up at some point with your experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    You're right. I was quoting for S6; darn, we get soaked! Nick_elgy and ANMS4, please follow up at some point with your experience.
    Will do for sure!
    Thanks


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    You're right. I was quoting for S6; darn, we get soaked! Nick_elgy and ANMS4, please follow up at some point with your experience.
    Will do for sure man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    You're right. I was quoting for S6; darn, we get soaked! Nick_elgy and ANMS4, please follow up at some point with your experience.
    Yeah it sucks. We already get hit with the 4 ring surcharge on parts and some get hit with the "S" surcharge as well. As a result I shop as little as possible for OEM parts.

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    I went with Blauparts front rotors, pads and sensors. Will be installing them 11/7 and will see how they perform. It was 230. delivered Fedex (10$) with sale. After reading their info on the pads and rotors, I think these are the best bet compared with all the others I researched. 2014 A6 C7 3.0l TFSI Presige black optic

    HCC; high carbon chromium, silver anti corrosion rust coating, reduces rotor temp etc, 356mm,

    BTW, cross drilled rotors reduces rotor mass and structural integrity with little or no benfits.

    Pads made in italy if that matters, ECE-R-90 approved that does matter, patented Hybrix compound, usual low dust anti squeal

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    Blauparts pads, rotors, sensor were perfect fit and easy install. 21mm caliper bolts required a 2ft breaker bar but were fairly easy to get free. The 9mm hex didn't need to be a long nose, the T30, T45 all were easily removed, added anti seize on the hubs to prevent the rotor from sticking but didn't really need to. Mileage is 73k so nothing out of the ordinary except where to put the jack stands. Control arms are very strong and didn't deform under the weight but would prefer the frame. May look to pry off the plastic bits as suggested in the video about spacers.
    Even forgot to open the brake fluid and let the fluid move freely and did not have to bleed the brake lines and pedal was solid as a rock.
    Blauparts parts for 230 was a great deal and the quality is as good as anything else I researched so very happy. Race tested does mean someting when the people making the parts are actually doing the testing and selling. You know where I'm coming from....
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    Let me tell you guys my wonderful experience and how I haven’t driven my car since Thursday.
    Friday- took wheel off and took caliper off no problem, then the rotor was stuck even after hammering with a sledgehammer, mallet while using a combination of PB blaster, nothing worked. I was ready to give up. I couldn’t! I ordered a 5 ton puller and luckily it arrived the next day.
    Sunday (today) - I took off caliper no problem, puller was able to get the rotor off no problem, everything was going great!!
    I go to finish the front and again no problem removing rotor with puller and everything was great. Took about an hour and a half to do the front.
    I put the wheels back on, tighten them and go to break in the new pads and rotors.
    As I’m pulling out of the garage I feel something pulsating, scrape..scrape..scrape..scrape, so I look it up and it says that when you replace the brakes and rotors there may be some pulsating and that’s just the pads getting familiar with the rotors, but it was slowing the car when I didn’t have my foot on the brake so I got worried and texted some friends, no one could figure it out but one of my friends said it should definitely NOT be pulsating. Well, I’ll finish the story here.
    I have aftermarket wheels which were measured when my brake pads were worn down significantly. They didn’t clear the caliper with the new pads since the caliper gets pushed out more. Luckily my calipers are fine and it only hit the screw for the cover. But the wheels have a nice groove on the inside and now I have to run spacers on custom measured wheels
    Luckily a shop about 30 minutes away had some 3mm spacers and it fixed all. So I took the car on a little drive for the first time in a while and so far I say these brakes are terrible compared to oem. They aren’t fully broken in but I’ll give an update tomorrow


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    After driving for another day, they definitely aren’t oem equivalent. That being said they do get the job done and are clearly a good product. I would recommend to anyone who doesn’t drive aggressively.


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    After drive for a few days the breaks are very good, no noises, stops REALLY good. and the rotors look great! I just need to redo my calipers they are rusty :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ANMS4 View Post
    After drive for a few days the breaks are very good, no noises, stops REALLY good. and the rotors look great! I just need to redo my calipers they are rusty :/



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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_elgy View Post



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    Sorry to hear about your clearance issue. I had a similar issue on my S4 when my dumb self didn’t know the caliper carrier bolts were single use stretch bolts. I was 70 miles from home when one let loose and the caliper gouged a nice ring around the barrel of my wheel.

    I had the akebono ceramics on our Q7 and didn’t like them. I feel like the hawks were an upgrade mostly because my rotors and pads were quite thin. There is certainly a cold bite difference between the materials.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUS4 View Post
    Sorry to hear about your clearance issue. I had a similar issue on my S4 when my dumb self didn’t know the caliper carrier bolts were single use stretch bolts. I was 70 miles from home when one let loose and the caliper gouged a nice ring around the barrel of my wheel.

    I had the akebono ceramics on our Q7 and didn’t like them. I feel like the hawks were an upgrade mostly because my rotors and pads were quite thin. There is certainly a cold bite difference between the materials.


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    that's nice man!! That's next IF i can figure out how to pass state inspection :(
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    Remember this, OE/OEM is always best, unless upgrading to bigger calipers and rotors. You give up stopping efficiency, for cleaner wheels. What's more important to you?

    OE pads were dusty, but now much better on newer Audi models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A6sport View Post
    Remember this, OE/OEM is always best, unless upgrading to bigger calipers and rotors. You give up stopping efficiency, for cleaner wheels. What's more important to you?

    OE pads were dusty, but now much better on newer Audi models.
    Never had an issue with the amount of dust from oe pads. Just seemed like people were saying the akebono paired with the zimmermans feel like oem. I guess some people just don’t have a good feel for their car


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    Quote Originally Posted by PSUS4 View Post
    Sorry to hear about your clearance issue. I had a similar issue on my S4 when my dumb self didn’t know the caliper carrier bolts were single use stretch bolts. I was 70 miles from home when one let loose and the caliper gouged a nice ring around the barrel of my wheel.

    I had the akebono ceramics on our Q7 and didn’t like them. I feel like the hawks were an upgrade mostly because my rotors and pads were quite thin. There is certainly a cold bite difference between the materials.


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    Wow. My two front wheels are messed up. It’s painful. Was your caliper find in the end?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick_elgy View Post
    Never had an issue with the amount of dust from oe pads. Just seemed like people were saying the akebono paired with the zimmermans feel like oem. I guess some people just don’t have a good feel for their car
    Interesting. Hawk makes both ceramic and semi-metallic pads. The guys who advised me all agreed I should get the semi-metallic, not the ceramic. Bummer about that tight wheel tolerance. Too bad the aftermarket wheel salesperson did not consider that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alabama View Post
    Interesting. Hawk makes both ceramic and semi-metallic pads. The guys who advised me all agreed I should get the semi-metallic, not the ceramic. Bummer about that tight wheel tolerance. Too bad the aftermarket wheel salesperson did not consider that.
    It is what it is i May switch to semi metallic down the road but for now the ceramics will do


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    Quote Originally Posted by A6sport View Post
    Remember this, OE/OEM is always best, unless upgrading to bigger calipers and rotors. You give up stopping efficiency, for cleaner wheels. What's more important to you?

    OE pads were dusty, but now much better on newer Audi models.
    Define "newer models"... C8 perhaps? Because on a 2018 the oem pads throw dust like a sawmill. 2 days driving and wheels are black.
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