Misshift Prevention

[Bror]

Is there any software available, which prevents misshifts? Something along the lines of detecting the selected manual gear and if the ensuing rev-match exceeds the redline, disallow the clutch from engaging?
I just want to make sure I don't accidentally money shift my engine.

[Das Ponto]

Yes. Even in manual the car will shift up (dsg/auto)

Edit... Manuals are manuals. They ain't gonna save you if you don't know how to drive.

Sent from my Igloo.

[Grouch]

Do A4's rev-match? I thought it was an S4 thing.

[COar]

It's been a minute since I've used my paddles but I don't recall there being any rev matching.

[Bror]

Just to clarify, I am asking for a manual

[audrobotic]

A manual transmission is manual. The clutch is controlled by your foot. How could software change a mechanical process?

[Bror]

Well, I was just guessing it could disengage the clutch for you if it sensed that the selected gear would result to the engine over-revving. That of course assumes that the clutch can be electronically operated, something which I am willing to guess is not a stock feature. So that brings me to the question; is there any hardware which could automatically operate the clutch for this instance? If yes, how complicated would it be to fit? If not (which is very likely), could it atleast notify that the ensuing gear change could cause damage? Furthermore, in the worst case scenario, if the gear is applied and the engine is over-spun could cut the fueling to bring down the revs as quickly as possible?

[audrobotic]

Automatic. Transmission.

[Theiceman]

Yes. Even in manual the car will shift up.

Sent from my Igloo.

what are you smoking ?

[Das Ponto]

what are you smoking ?

This was before he clarified he was talking about a manual car.

Sent from my Igloo.

[Theiceman]

you are essentially asking is there anything that will teach me to drive without consequences....

the technology exists and is its infancy due to lack of funding , and has not been truly developed , nor not been put into effect in production vehicles as we are moving away form the ICE to electrics .. so is a "non starter" as it were.

it essentially uses solenoids to fire the valves instead of a mechanical linkage to the crank.
modern gear boxes are very good ,, you would have to be a complete moron to do that on a modern car ... now my 915 gearbox in my 911, the possibility is VERY real.

but on a related note humble mechanic has a great you tube video on a money shift with engine teardown .. it is pretty ugly, but very cool at the same time.

[Grouch]

Well, I was just guessing it could disengage the clutch for you if it sensed that the selected gear would result to the engine over-revving. That of course assumes that the clutch can be electronically operated, something which I am willing to guess is not a stock feature. So that brings me to the question; is there any hardware which could automatically operate the clutch for this instance? If yes, how complicated would it be to fit? If not (which is very likely), could it atleast notify that the ensuing gear change could cause damage? Furthermore, in the worst case scenario, if the gear is applied and the engine is over-spun could cut the fueling to bring down the revs as quickly as possible?

I think you're over thinking this. The only time I see "money shift" being an issue is you're racing someone and you down shift while popping the clutch. That in itself is already a bad idea. Unless you're not paying attention, you could feel how much you fucked up when you're slowly releasing the clutch. You should always rev-match when down shifting anyway, in my personal opinion. That way if you happen to fuck up by downshifting too much, you have time to immediately engage the clutch.

[audrobotic]

So Bror - what is your plan here? Do you have a B8 with manual tranmission? Are you planning to track it?

[misiak]

CO Motorsport on youtube has a video breaking down his MK3 16v turbo drag car, and he has a motorsport shifter that locks each gear out after you shift out of it.

[Grouch]

CO Motorsport on youtube has a video breaking down his MK3 16v turbo drag car, and he has a motorsport shifter that locks each gear out after you shift out of it.

One thing that tripped me out with the Audi's, was how I could shift into reverse while the car is in motion. I never disengaged the clutch but I was able to shift it into reverse (was just curious if it was possible). I owned a TL-S a few years back and the reverse was all the way to the right instead of left like our cars. But there the reverse was locked unless you were stopped.

[Bror]

So Bror - what is your plan here? Do you have a B8 with manual tranmission? Are you planning to track it?

There isn't one really.I was asking because I have been thinking of purchasing an A4 Facelift with manual transmission (if all goes well and I do find one that is). I just sorta wanted to know if there was a system which would protect the gearbox in case I misshifted when doing a high rpm run (e.g. 0-100km/h) per se. This whole, which transmission to choose case, has been bothering me for a while now tbh. At first I started thinking the S-tronic was the optimal all-arounder. I still do think it is, hands down. However, when it comes to reliability and serviceability, I have heard quite a few horror stories of malfunctioning Mechatronics and steep service bills. Enough, as a matter of fact, to steer me away from the automatic bunch all together. The robust, easy-to-use and economic nature of the manual appealed to me. These qualities come a long way, especially in a vehicle which has miles on it. I am fairly confident that if I were to go for the S-tronic, sooner or later, the accumulated wear and tear would get the best of it. But what do you guys thing? Am I being too cautious maybe?

[Theiceman]

There isn't one really.I was asking because I have been thinking of purchasing an A4 Facelift with manual transmission (if all goes well and I do find one that is). I just sorta wanted to know if there was a system which would protect the gearbox in case I misshifted when doing a high rpm run (e.g. 0-100km/h) per se. This whole, which transmission to choose case, has been bothering me for a while now tbh. At first I started thinking the S-tronic was the optimal all-arounder. I still do think it is, hands down. However, when it comes to reliability and serviceability, I have heard quite a few horror stories of malfunctioning Mechatronics and steep service bills. Enough, as a matter of fact, to steer me away from the automatic bunch all together. The robust, easy-to-use and economic nature of the manual appealed to me. These qualities come a long way, especially in a vehicle which has miles on it. I am fairly confident that if I were to go for the S-tronic, sooner or later, the accumulated wear and tear would get the best of it. But what do you guys thing? Am I being too cautious maybe?

the best advice i can give .. is give your brain a chance when you buy your car to adapt... after a while shifting will become second nature... dont buty it and try to rip 0-100 same day kind of thing...

But your fear is real it can and does happen , can happen very quickly on the track ...