installing seal cam's adjustment magnet

[audi-art]

looks like the seal of the cam's adjustment magnet is leaking some oil. so i want to replace this seal (06H-103-483-D) and the o-ring inside :WHT-007-212-B
my question is if i can just take out the 3 bolts of the adjustment magnet, take the adjustment magnet out and put a new seal in or do i have to take off the complete upper timing cover to be able to put a new seal in ?
this thread was very informative but couldn't find out if possible without taking off the timing cover:
https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...oil-leak-FIXED



and does anyone know the torque specs of the 3 bolt on the cam's adjustment magnet ?

thanks

arthur

[Smac770]

You can replace them with the timing cover still installed. That's what I did. I believe I had to at least loosen the bolt further down the oil dipstick also, iirc. Torque spec is 9 Nm.

[audi-art]

thanks Smac770 , i am gonna order the 2 seals and fix the leak

[Allowencer]

You can replace them with the timing cover still installed. That's what I did. I believe I had to at least loosen the bolt further down the oil dipstick also, iirc. Torque spec is 9 Nm.

Accurate.

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[Spawne32]

If you don't have the magnet with the black plastic cover on it, its actually the magnet itself that will leak.

[audi-art]

If you don't have the magnet with the black plastic cover on it, its actually the magnet itself that will leak.

it already crossed my mind although i didn't notice oil on the metal part of magnet , just under the edge of it where the seal sits but i will surely check the magnet when taking it off.

i assume i still have the old magnet version without the plastic cover:

[Spawne32]

it already crossed my mind although i didn't notice oil on the metal part of magnet , just under the edge of it where the seal sits but i will surely check the magnet when taking it off.

i assume i still have the old magnet version without the plastic cover:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...f61092dd_c.jpg

Yeh that's an original design. ECS sells some Febi camshaft adjuster magnets for pretty cheap. Some are sold with a connector some without. Word on the street is that the connector design changed with the new revisions but mine plugged right in and my car is an 09, so I don't forsee any issues.

[audi-art]

.... ECS sells some Febi camshaft adjuster magnets for pretty cheap. Some are sold with a connector some without. Word on the street is that the connector design changed with the new revisions but mine plugged right in and my car is an 09, so I don't forsee any issues.

is it in this case not important to get an original oem audi part from dealer as with the pcv valve........so a febi or whatever aftermarket brand is fine ?

[Spawne32]

is it in this case not important to get an original oem audi part from dealer as with the pcv valve........so a febi or whatever aftermarket brand is fine ?

Perfectly fine. Not entirely sure who the OEM mfg is of that part anyway, but case in point, I ordered a standard motor products ignition switch, and out of the box was an OEM audi switch.

[Smac770]

The metal one is fine; the gaps between the cover plate and the actual solenoid device won't leak if the two seals are correctly installed. Keep in mind that inner o-ring is replace if the N205 is removed. Audi isn't kidding with that; is why I had to go back in and replace it when I didn't the first time. Then again, being 10 years old might have played a part too. :-)

[Spawne32]

The metal one is fine; the gaps between the cover plate and the actual solenoid device won't leak if the two seals are correctly installed. Keep in mind that inner o-ring is replace if the N205 is removed. Audi isn't kidding with that; is why I had to go back in and replace it when I didn't the first time. Then again, being 10 years old might have played a part too. :-)

Well 10 years later, its not an oring its a plastic circle. :p

[akz786]

You can replace them with the timing cover still installed. That's what I did. I believe I had to at least loosen the bolt further down the oil dipstick also, iirc. Torque spec is 9 Nm.

Do these cam adjustment seals come out easily with the upper timing cover still in place? - just wandering if they pop in easily with the cover intact?

I need to change my seals as I can see a small leak from the screws of the cam magnets weeping through.

[Theiceman]

Do these cam adjustment seals come out easily with the upper timing cover still in place? - just wandering if they pop in easily with the cover intact?

I need to change my seals as I can see a small leak from the screws of the cam magnets weeping through.

Easy.. even removing the she co dr is easy if you need to 10mm socket.
There is a seal and an o ring. Get both.

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[akz786]

Easy.. even removing the she co dr is easy if you need to 10mm socket.
There is a seal and an o ring. Get both.

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Thanks - mine is actually for a Audi A3 8V, I think its all relatively similar but I could not find anyone from the A3 community who has tried to change these seals by just removing the cam magnets - also the o-ring you mention - what is that for?

[Theiceman]

The oring goes around the magnet and stops you losing oil/pressure around the magnet in the cam bridge
The gasket stops oil leaks out of the cover.

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[tomsgtr]

There's three seals. 1 Big gasket for the timing cover, One Circle gasket that has a slight taper that goes around the cam bridge, and one O-Ring inside the cam bridge where the electrical actuator slides into. You have to remove the timing cover which is not a big deal. It think it's like 5-6 bolts, the dipstick, and the cam actuator.

[Theiceman]

You don't have to remove the whole cover if it's just leaking from n205. But likely it's leaking from everywhere as that big gasket turns to plastic with time and heat.

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[akz786]

Thanks for all the replies guys - great information - will try the cam seals first and see if that solves the issue.

[Ejr]

You can replace them with the timing cover still installed. That's what I did. I believe I had to at least loosen the bolt further down the oil dipstick also, iirc. Torque spec is 9 Nm.

What torque wrench did you use that fitted between that small gap?

[Ejr]

Thanks for all the replies guys - great information - will try the cam seals first and see if that solves the issue.

Was it in fact the adjuster seal and leak was solved? At least for the frontal leak.

[Smac770]

What torque wrench did you use that fitted between that small gap?

https://www.tekton.com/1-4-inch-driv...rench-trq21101

That's the small one I picked up a few years ago. Been very useful for various low torque fasteners on the car.

[Ejr]

https://www.tekton.com/1-4-inch-driv...rench-trq21101

That's the small one I picked up a few years ago. Been very useful for various low torque fasteners on the car.

I appreciate the link!

Have you had Electronic Parking Brake malfunction light together with ESP faulty but the EPB works except for the autorelease feature and solved it?

Please check out my reply which is the last comment on this thread;
help with epb faults.....but epb works
https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php?t=721049

[Smac770]

I've never had an EPB problem. Whenever I get the ESP+EPB lights on the instrument cluster, it means I forgot to plug the MAF back in. No, really. Leave the MAF unplugged, and you get stupid unrelated issues like that. Who knows.