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    I know this isn't B7 specific but I've been gearing up to change my transmission fluid and have been concerned with getting my car level. So I went and took some measurements of the concrete pad where I plan to do the work and found that it's got a pretty significant slope. The rear side of the pad is sloped about 3 degrees right to left and the front of the pad slopes about 4 degrees right to left. Here's a picture looking from the front of the pad towards the back with the camera held level.



    I did some rough calcs and it looks like when it's parked the front left tire would be about 5.5" lower than the rear right tire. I was thinking about building some crib blocks like these to get the car up and level, using a different number of spacers at each wheel. But now I'm wondering if there's really any safe way to get the car up in the air on this pad. Any thoughts.


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    why not rent a lift for few hours if you are that concerned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammond View Post
    why not rent a lift for few hours if you are that concerned?
    The closest one I can find is about an hour away. So I'd have to drive there, park the car long enough for it to cool down before I start wrenching, and then hope that I don't mess anything up and need to make a parts run or worst case leave it there over night and figure out how to get home. Then if I do get it done, I need to do the adaptation drive and there aren't any open roads around that garage where I could do that.

    I mean is all that better than the car falling on me? Hell yeah. Haha. But it would just be nice to do this at home where I have access to all my tools and it can sit if I get hung up on something. I know a fluid change is simple enough but when I did the timing chain tensioner I thought I'd get it done in a day and it ended up not getting finished for like 4 or 5 days. I always seem to run into unforeseen circumstances.

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    something like this will get you close

    https://www.homedepot.com/p/PowerSmi...360T/302649879

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    Quote Originally Posted by texadelphia View Post
    The closest one I can find is about an hour away. So I'd have to drive there, park the car long enough for it to cool down before I start wrenching, and then hope that I don't mess anything up and need to make a parts run or worst case leave it there over night and figure out how to get home. Then if I do get it done, I need to do the adaptation drive and there aren't any open roads around that garage where I could do that.

    I mean is all that better than the car falling on me? Hell yeah. Haha. But it would just be nice to do this at home where I have access to all my tools and it can sit if I get hung up on something. I know a fluid change is simple enough but when I did the timing chain tensioner I thought I'd get it done in a day and it ended up not getting finished for like 4 or 5 days. I always seem to run into unforeseen circumstances.
    Just fyi, don't need to do the adaptation immediately. I just recently learned about it, and did my service a few months ago. And I'm stage 2 hpfp tuned, no issues. Gonna get around to doing it soon. Your block idea sounds plenty good. Long as ya get it very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayz691 View Post
    Just fyi, don't need to do the adaptation immediately. I just recently learned about it, and did my service a few months ago. And I'm stage 2 hpfp tuned, no issues. Gonna get around to doing it soon. Your block idea sounds plenty good. Long as ya get it very close.

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    That's good to know. I assumed it would drive pretty badly after a fluid change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by texadelphia View Post
    That's good to know. I assumed it would drive pretty badly after a fluid change.

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    Nope, fine. But prob could be better, we'll see.

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    Something like those crib blocks would work just fine in my opinion, if you can make them so the top is level - all the better. And don't skimp on wheel chocks & secondary safety net, I'd go with jack stands & I've used scraps of plywood to level those up, seems a lot of guys use their tires as a fail-safe as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbottcostello View Post
    Something like those crib blocks would work just fine in my opinion, if you can make them so the top is level - all the better. And don't skimp on wheel chocks & secondary safety net, I'd go with jack stands & I've used scraps of plywood to level those up, seems a lot of guys use their tires as a fail-safe as well.
    Been ruminating on this all week. Considering doing my best to make sure my ducks are all in a row and going to that DIY garage where I can rent a lift.
    That makes sense about making sure the cribs are level. I was trying to figure out how to cut the bottom of the cribs at an angle but I'm not sure how to do it with the tools I have.
    I'll let you know what I end up doing.

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    for the cribs to work, car has to be lifted too high because suspension allows too much play on wheels when you are lifting them. Use a leveling machine(there are bunch of them in Home Depot) when you are lifting and the teeth of the Jack stand should get you close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hammond View Post
    for the cribs to work, car has to be lifted too high because suspension allows too much play on wheels when you are lifting them. Use a leveling machine(there are bunch of them in Home Depot) when you are lifting and the teeth of the Jack stand should get you close.
    I get what you're saying. I'm not concerned with trying to find level because I can just put a bubble level on the bottom of the transmission pan once I have it in the air. I just want to make sure the car is stable whether it's on a lift, jack stands, or crib blocks. Jack stands make me nervous on sloped ground for 2 reasons. The footprint is small so easier to tip. I'm also afraid of the induced lateral/bending load on a cast jack stand arm. I've read that they can fail when not loaded solely in compression which makes sense. Cast material loaded in bending is no bueno.

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    Not sure what play on wheels is, unless you're talking about suspension travel?
    If I was there doing that lift, I would definitely be considering long planks, like 2"x12"x 8', a shovel full of dirt at the beginning to get onto the plank - drive right up.
    Lot of guys use tires as a failsafe instead of jack stands, I'm not really a fan of that method. I have steel jack stands & use different scraps of plywood & plate steel shims to level the stands up. If possible I'll also get my floor jack or a bottle jack under some other structural member
    All in all, in a garage on a lift is pretty much the ideal, though.

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