Anyone ever try 2 different short throw shifters? Any perceptible difference?

[6shift]

I'm looking to buy a short throw for my B8.5 so naturally I started combing through old forum posts (of which there are plenty) discussing the Eurocode vs ECS vs JHM and so on.

Everyone who bought one shifter or the other only had good things to say so it seems like I can't go wrong, which is nice. But what I couldn't find is anyone with experience with multiple shifiters comparing and contrasting them.

So my question is: has anyone had more than one brand of short throw in their car or drive different S4's with different shifters? If so, any noticeable difference in feel between Euro, ECS, JHM, etc?

[Jay@JXB]

I did a comparison of the shifter I make (JXB) vs an OEM and JHM. The results speak for themselves IMO. Here’s the link to the product. The video is on the product page.


https://www.jxbperformance.com/produ...ow-shifter-kit

Alternatively, my shifter mounting plate can be used in conjunction with any of the aftermarket shifters to vastly reduce the slop that they all leave behind.


https://www.jxbperformance.com/produ...mounting-plate


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[Ashtonts]

I had an ECS shifter on my B7 and a buddy had a JHM. Mine felt a lot more clicky and mechanical than his, whereas his felt more like a firmer/stiffer version of stock. I personally preferred the ECS feel by quite a bit, but I imagine some would strongly prefer the more OEM feel of the JHM.

One of these days I’m going to be getting an ECS SS for this car paired with the JXB plate

[seandon_792]

Pretty much what ashtonts said. I have the ECS in mine while my father runs the jhm. Both are good but I prefer the ECS for two reasons.
1. It has shorter throws
2. I like the click feel better than the stiffer feel jhm offers


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[ENV²]

I had JHM first then Eurocode. Eurocode felt better.

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[6shift]

I did a comparison of the shifter I make (JXB) vs an OEM and JHM. The results speak for themselves IMO. Here’s the link to the product. The video is on the product page.

Alternatively, my shifter mounting plate can be used in conjunction with any of the aftermarket shifters to vastly reduce the slop that they all leave behind.

To be honest, I hadn't heard of JXB before but the video makes a very compelling argument for it. How much of the reduced slop in gear is from the clamp vs the plate? I wouldn't think the plate would have much influence on 3rd and 4th gear slop but its remarkably better than JHM and OEM.

Pretty much what ashtonts said. I have the ECS in mine while my father runs the jhm. Both are good but I prefer the ECS for two reasons.
1. It has shorter throws
2. I like the click feel better than the stiffer feel jhm offers


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How would you compare shifting "effort" with the ECS? I want a more mechanical feel but I get flashbacks to the a Hurst shifter I put in my mustang. It had an incredibly tight and notchy feel but required such tremendous effort to go between gears that it actually forced you to shift slower than OEM. Not entirely a bad thing but certainly diminished spirited acceleration.

[Ashtonts]

To be honest, I hadn't heard of JXB before but the video makes a very compelling argument for it. How much of the reduced slop in gear is from the clamp vs the plate? I wouldn't think the plate would have much influence on 3rd and 4th gear slop but its remarkably better than JHM and OEM.




How would you compare shifting "effort" with the ECS? I want a more mechanical feel but I get flashbacks to the a Hurst shifter I put in my mustang. It had an incredibly tight and notchy feel but required such tremendous effort to go between gears that it actually forced you to shift slower than OEM. Not entirely a bad thing but certainly diminished spirited acceleration.

There was definitely no problem shifting my ECS shifter in my B7. Just a more satisfying feel, but no more difficult than stock to shift in terms of force.

[Jay@JXB]

To be honest, I hadn't heard of JXB before but the video makes a very compelling argument for it. How much of the reduced slop in gear is from the clamp vs the plate? I wouldn't think the plate would have much influence on 3rd and 4th gear slop but its remarkably better than JHM and OEM.

Makes sense you haven’t heard of it, because I just started the company 6 months ago :)

The big slop reducer is the plate and its bushings. The bushings take care of the wiggle when you’re in gear and stops some flex under higher loads. The plate stops the rest of the flex under high load.

The clamp is a cheap way to accomplish the same thing as the other short throw shifters. It doesn’t remove slop; simply reduces throw length more than the JHM and as much as the ECS and Eurocodes.

The plate is compatible with my clamp and any aftermarket shifter. So if you wanted the absolute perfect shifter setup, my recommendation would be JHM shifter + JXB plate + JHM linkage. That’s a lot of coin though, so in my biased but very scientific opinion, the best bang for your buck is to go JXB plate plus clamp and have everything a stand-alone short throw gives you with much less slop for a bit less cost.


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[seandon_792]

To be honest, I hadn't heard of JXB before but the video makes a very compelling argument for it. How much of the reduced slop in gear is from the clamp vs the plate? I wouldn't think the plate would have much influence on 3rd and 4th gear slop but its remarkably better than JHM and OEM.




How would you compare shifting "effort" with the ECS? I want a more mechanical feel but I get flashbacks to the a Hurst shifter I put in my mustang. It had an incredibly tight and notchy feel but required such tremendous effort to go between gears that it actually forced you to shift slower than OEM. Not entirely a bad thing but certainly diminished spirited acceleration.

It doesn’t take much more effort, if any at all to shift using the ECS over the stock unit. It definitely does have a notchy feel to it but doesn’t slow any spirited shifting in slightest


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[6shift]

Makes sense you haven’t heard of it, because I just started the company 6 months ago :)

The big slop reducer is the plate and its bushings. The bushings take care of the wiggle when you’re in gear and stops some flex under higher loads. The plate stops the rest of the flex under high load.

The clamp is a cheap way to accomplish the same thing as the other short throw shifters. It doesn’t remove slop; simply reduces throw length more than the JHM and as much as the ECS and Eurocodes.

The plate is compatible with my clamp and any aftermarket shifter. So if you wanted the absolute perfect shifter setup, my recommendation would be JHM shifter + JXB plate + JHM linkage. That’s a lot of coin though, so in my biased but very scientific opinion, the best bang for your buck is to go JXB plate plus clamp and have everything a stand-alone short throw gives you with much less slop for a bit less cost.

Good to know. The plate sounds like a necessity now!

I've looked into the JHM linkage but at $500, how much does it really improve things? I can see it removing some slop but at twice the price of a JXB ultimate shift kit, I don't see it providing twice the gain.

It doesn’t take much more effort, if any at all to shift using the ECS over the stock unit. It definitely does have a notchy feel to it but doesn’t slow any spirited shifting in slightest

Perfect! just what I wanted to hear.

Does anyone know if there's any actual difference between the Eurocode and ECS shifters? They look nearly identical with identical specs, just slightly different marketing lingo.

[king_j]

Euro code does recommend to grease the bearing, while ecs does not.
I’m sure it’s fine if you don’t grease it, but they themselves recommend it.
I have ecs.


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