Axis’s B8.5 Allroad “build” thread

[Axis]

Well since I sold the B6 Avant we needed another long roof so we went ahead and bought a 2014 Allroad with 130kkm. It has the Premium Plus package, Progressiv and Sport Package (New to B8’s so let me know if I’m mistaking on the packages)

Missing the rear view camera and blind spot warning but those who know me know that wont stop me from having those options :P

Picture from the PO:




First thing needed was a wash, PO probably brought it through the woods to reach rivers more than once since he’s a canoe guy. So much sand came out of everywhere.



Second thing I did was remove the regular flat bottom and install the one I had in my B6:








Mind you I got the car yesterday at 5pm.

What I have coming for it right now:

- Aluminium Pedal Set
- R8 Oil / Coolant Caps
- RS4 Style Spoiler

Plans for it, lower it, swap a 3.0T with a Shiftronic transmission, SC pulley and an OEM+ Mapping. (Racing Line mapping, which IMO make the best mapping for these engines) And I need to find a set of Q5 Brembos, sold all the ones I had.

Looking into Bilstein B8’s coupled with H&R Sport springs for Sedans since I read the Allroad spring will give rake which I don’t want. Don’t hesitate to give me input on this matter since the info online is mixed.

Untill I find a good donor I’ll do the upper chain, upper guides and 3 tensioners. And I’ll put it on lift Monday just to confirm if the rear main is leaking, pretty sure it is and if so I’ll put an Iabed rear main there. Also, flush the oil, remove that Napa filter asap and install a front brake pad warning sensor.

[eljay]

Nice to see you in the Allroad camp sir!
This will be good. I know it already!

May I suggest you install some sort of racing steering wheel column coupling? It would save you like 3 mins every day during your steering wheel swap routine.

Why are you replacing the timing chains right away? Have you checked the cam phase adaptation values yet? Or is there other concern? Just curious as 2014, I thought, should be OKish for that.

Also, if you can, please share your RS4 style spoiler source. I am hoping to add one too.

The all black cladding looks pretty good and I'm tempted to paint mine down the road.

Looking forward to the progress!

[Axis]

Nice to see you in the Allroad camp sir!
This will be good. I know it already!

May I suggest you install some sort of racing steering wheel column coupling? It would save you like 3 mins every day during your steering wheel swap routine.

Why are you replacing the timing chains right away? Have you checked the cam phase adaptation values yet? Or is there other concern? Just curious as 2014, I thought, should be OKish for that.

Also, if you can, please share your RS4 style spoiler source. I am hoping to add one too.

The all black cladding looks pretty good and I'm tempted to paint mine down the road.

Looking forward to the progress!

Ty for the welcome Eljay :)

Even if it has the revised chain guide the chain is still the single link chain and they stretch. Since I run an Euro Indy shop I’ve seen my share of failures even on B8.5’s. I’ll do it as preventive maintenance if, once the cover is lifted, the upper tensioner is close to maximum operation. If not, I’ll wait.

They’re listed on Ebay, from what I’ve read, they fit pretty well. I’ll dig the link and post it.

Car had the color matched overfenders from factory, now I’ll wrap the chrome on the side skirts.

[JLAllroad]

Untill I find a good donor I’ll do the upper chain, upper guides and 3 tensioners. And I’ll put it on lift Monday just to confirm if the rear main is leaking, pretty sure it is and if so I’ll put an Iabed rear main there. Also, flush the oil, remove that Napa filter asap and install a front brake pad warning sensor.

Welcome....

I hear of very few RMS leaks on these.....unless a bad PCV blew it out.


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[rand0mher0]

H&R sport springs should sit good after the 3.0t swap is done. I have the same springs in my avant and it was tucking in the rear and had gap in the front when it was still 2.0t. It is pretty even now with the added weight from the 3.0t

[Axis]

Welcome....

I hear of very few RMS leaks on these.....unless a bad PCV blew it out.


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Its just because I could see oil on the belly pan near where the bell housing meets the block. I’ll know for sure tomorrow after work.

H&R sport springs should sit good after the 3.0t swap is done. I have the same springs in my avant and it was tucking in the rear and had gap in the front when it was still 2.0t. It is pretty even now with the added weight from the 3.0t

Ty for your input, you used the sedan version?

[rand0mher0]

I checked the expansion tank quickly and no signs of oil. Its just because I could see oil on the belly pan near where the bell housing meets the block. I’ll know for sure tomorrow after work.



Ty for your input, you used the sedan version?

You got it Yes I used the sedan springs.

[Axis]

Well as I suspected because of the fuel pressure too low during cold start and fuel rail/system pressure too high codes my upper chain was stretched

Images will speak for me:



Also changed the fuel pump chain tensioner because it had a little score in it and its 10$ for a Genuine one.


So now it drives well and since I had the tuner here to do another car I flashed it, tad less boring for now. Stage I makes 262/316 not bad.

The OEM+ Stage II on the 3.0T will make 446/435 which makes more sense.

[eljay]

Wow! That is some stretch.
OK, so you had some codes that led you to check, correct?
Any chance you looked at the cam phase adaptation value before the replacement?
I'm curious what that showed with this physical evidence?

[Axis]

Wow! That is some stretch.
OK, so you had some codes that led you to check, correct?
Any chance you looked at the cam phase adaptation value before the replacement?
I'm curious what that showed with this physical evidence?

Just the fuel pressure codes was enought for me

[oVeRdOsE]

congrats for this project, youve been talking about it since a while now. !

starting to think about a swap, 3.0t or 2.7tt. Slow process I guess, Ive done the 1st step which is to buy a DD while working on the B7.

Found a sweet 6mt sport pack bmw e91. I like it, since rwd and awd can be triggered with a app, and n54 swap engine are more capable than the 3.0t..

Are you guyz able to work on n54 or audi engine only ?

[Axis]

I’ll let you guess what these hfc downpipes are for ;)

[Mister W]

Wow, bel achat. C'est pour ça la question sur les pedales? Je t'ai PM

[Axis]

Well after 600 km of ownership this happened:





Yes I know, I have to clean the salt off the carpets at one point.

[eljay]

Someone stole your springs!!! :)

What setup did you get?

[Axis]

Someone stole your springs!!! :)

What setup did you get?

Bilstein B8 paired with H&R Sport



Also used the occasion to replace the front strut mounts with Lemfoerder's and rear mounts with Rein's. Both are the oem supplier. Also, put anti-rust on the inner strut towers while I was there.

[rand0mher0]

Came out great! Looks like it sits perfect!

[eljay]

Bilstein B8 paired with H&R Sport

Nice. How is the ride on that combo? Any complaints from "the others"? :)

[Axis]

Came out great! Looks like it sits perfect!

67cm/67cm ftg. Its pretty even. I’m scared I might have to fab a spring spacer for the front once a 3.0T sits in there. I assume yours sat different since its a B8.

Nice. How is the ride on that combo? Any complaints from "the others"? :)

Exactly like my 2 ex B6’s and my B7 with the same setup. It wasnt hard to convince me to go with that setup haha Its the best combo imo. Not cheap though

To answer a previous question : as soon as you’re close to -4.5 / -5 you replace. -6 is late and -7 is BooM

[eljay]

Did you have to change the control arms as well to work with the new lower angle?

[Axis]

Did you have to change the control arms as well to work with the new lower angle?

Getting it aligned Monday, we’ll see what camber says in the front. I’ll live with -1.5, hopefully its not more than that

[Axis]

Well, -1.8/-2.0 and a stuck Toe bolt in the back. I'll live with the front camber but I'll lower the rear sub frame again to get that toe bolt to move. To close to the fuel tank for heat without lowering the subframe.

[eljay]

That's not too bad.
That will probably cut the life of those control arms a bit, correct?

Are the HR springs about 1.5" lower than standard B8 Avant suspension?
In other words, would a standard Avant S-Line suspension would keep the control arms in reasonable OEM-like camber range?

[Axis]

Replaced the rear driver eccentric toe bolt, washer and locking nut. Alignment is now on point.

Had the car wet sanded, compounded, polished and glass coated.



Also bought a set of 320mm Q5 Brembos from a fellow Audizine member, I’ll empty them and send them to powder coat. Will be gloss black with white Brembo decals.

And covid is killing the auctions, bidded 5K on a 2014 S4 that had deployed airbags and a good front passenger hit, it sold for 8.5K...

[eljay]

Shiny!!

Wow, crazy about auctions. I guess the supply is low, but still I don't see cars selling a lot, so that's strange.
If you come across an Allroad with an intact front end, save me front bumper parts and plateless grille. :)

[Axis]

Really like that spoiler

[eljay]

That looks sharp!
How was the fitment?
Can you share a link to where you bought it? They are probably all coming from the same factory, but if the fitment is close enough, it may be easier to buy based on your reference.

[Axis]

That looks sharp!
How was the fitment?
Can you share a link to where you bought it? They are probably all coming from the same factory, but if the fitment is close enough, it may be easier to buy based on your reference.

Fitment wasnt on point, needed sanding to fit it “properly”. It sits good now but not 100% perfect. Lets say 95% after some elbow grease

[Mister W]

Content de voir que ça fit. Tu l'a collés avec quoi?

Traduction: Happy to see that it fits. How did you make it hold to the car?

[Axis]

Content de voir que ça fit. Tu l'a collés avec quoi?

Traduction: Happy to see that it fits. How did you make it hold to the car?

Double face tape and uretane

[Axis]

Replaced the front passenger bearing, installed C7 A6 windshield sprayers, an RS5 rear sway bar and emptied calipers which are now at the powder coat shop. Going with red calipers and white Brembo decals but I’m still unsure.

Was either gloss black with white decals or silver with black decals or red with white decals. Always paired with black crossover lines. Thoughts?

Pictures because we like pictures:

[Axis]

PO was running the oem winter mats and end result was this:



So I cleaned it a bit:



Bought Weathertech mats and sold the oem winter mats

[Axis]

Came out great IMO



Received rebuild kits and pads. Just gotta order rotors, going with Brembos high carbon, and brake pad wear sensor at work.

Will install and do both ball joints at the same time.

[rand0mher0]

Damn those calipers came out great. I really gotta get on that upgrade.

[Axis]

Damn those calipers came out great. I really gotta get on that upgrade.

Yeah, I assume they came from the south of the US, no oxydation at all so the finish came out smooth as an 18yo butt cheak

But I have these at work and I have to stop myself from sourcing Macan spindles

[eljay]

Those came out great!

Regarding mats, I ordered a rear cargo mat and when it arrived I realized there are two versions and I got the crapier foam type one (ends in 160). :( I wonder if the dealer will take it back and exchange for the other one that's rubber (ending in 180).

I am thinking of getting Weathertech ones too as they do work much better.

[Axis]

Rebuilt and loaded. Bought Brembro high carbon blank rotors and pads are Centric Posi Quiet Pro.

[Quattro 4 Life]

Rebuilt and loaded. Bought Brembro high carbon blank rotors and pads are Centric Posi Quiet Pro.

Are the crossover lines painted or new?

[Axis]

Are the crossover lines painted or new?

Powder coated

[Nut]

I've had Weathertech for 3 years and it does the job pretty well. You can find slightly used ones for around half of retail price.