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    💥Supreme Power | KW Suspension V3 DDC ECU w/ WLAN Installed on RS3💥

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    💥Installed KW V3 DDC ECU on RS3💥






















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    So. Much. Better.

    Installed is the KW DDC ECU w/WLAN. So, the standard V3 coilover kit with electronically controlled damping adjustments plus the phone app control by adding the optional WLAN module for a wifi connection. It’s been in over a month and so far I’m very happy with it. I’ve always liked KW coilovers and have used them on several of my MQB & MLB cars. It’s leaps and bounds more compliant over the stock set up as expected.

    My comments are as viewed through the lens of the car as a daily driver, for hard street, weekend AutoX & road course. The spring rates are likely too soft for dedicated drag @ 346 lb/in (60N/mm) rear & progressive front. The rates that come standard on this kit are very close to the rates used in the KW HAS for the RS3 which is what this kit is replacing on mine. That said, it can still certainly be used on the strip with it set in Sport + for those not focused only on shaving tenths.

    My main complaints on the stock mag ride dampers:

    Comfort:

    Too soft & useless for me other than as a winter mode for pothole duty. Ive used it 6 months out of the year since summer of 2017 for this purpose and the oscillation made me sad the entire time. I had no confidence pushing it hard in Comfort. Using Dynamic during this season is out of the question here even with 18”; the roads are that bad and frankly only marginally better by July.

    Dynamic:

    Over-damped. My tires would frequently skip and bounce when the mag ride goes to full stiff. Imo stiffer is always better but here it’s to a fault in too many situations. I’ve had about 500 mini heart attacks from that full stiff WHAM that results from a seemingly minor road surface imperfection or the wheels skipping sideways after multiple hits.

    With the V3 kit it is now: One up & one down.

    That’s it.

    Every mode.

    No oscillation in Comfort and no jarring impacts or skipping in Sport or Sport+. Comfort is about the same as stock with no undue travel. Sport brings it up stiffer but less so than the stock Dynamic mode. Sport + is as stiff as stock Dynamic but very compliant. You can actually feel the cracks in the pavement now but in a good way. Together with the upgraded rear sway/links and being able to lower it a 1/2” more than the springs it has become much more of the on rails experience I like in an AWD vehicle. Much more confidence inspiring during cornering at all speeds.

    Because I’ve gotten old and lazy, I don’t want to fiddle around with adjustment knobs or cut open towers anymore. I knew the standard V3 would deliver the improvements I was looking for but DDC ECU function intrigued me. It turns out the 3 DDC modes of Comfort, Sport and Sport + are all very useable and are selected though an in cabin button: Comfort, Sport & Sport+ or through the app.

    Comfort mode makes automatic speed and steering based adjustments via CAN inputs, Sport is 50/50 and Sport + is 100/100. The video shows the real time per axle adjustments via the app. It leads off with it in Comfort with the DDC ECU making the adjustments, I then switch it to Sport (50/50) then to Sport + (100/100) and finally a manual adjustment. I haven’t played around with the manual option too much but it looks interesting and you can save pre-set per axle choices with a max 30% offset.

    I’ve been spending most of my time in Sport + and love every minute of it. Sport Mode is nice too and a good option for when you have “others” along for the ride who don’t understand stiff suspensions and complain. It smooths it out some for them and still retains compliance and some feel for you. I will probably only use Comfort for winter or extended highway driving but even that is much improved over Oem Comfort mode. I thinking I could even get away with Sport mode all winter but I’ll see how that goes.

    Mechanically, so far it’s solid. No clunking, no bind, no squeaking under any conditions. I did replace the strut mounts, bearings and shock mounts with new OEM. My one complaint is about the WLAN and phone app. It’s kind of clunky and has a hard time connecting pretty often. I’d skip that unless it can be addressed by an app update.

    My objective was to try something new and different as well as improve the handling/performance. I will even go as far as saying this upgrade has renewed my excitement for the car; it has definitely been much more fun to drive with this upgrade. Ill report back if that should that change and if there are any worthy developments. It’s always unnerving to try something new… which doesn’t always work out well. But it’s sure nice when it does. So that’s it for now.
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    Better pic showing final height. It was significantly lower but had to raise up some due to rubbing.

    Set up is 19x9.5 +45 with PS4S 265/30-19 square at stock camber:




    Last edited by Paul@SupremePower; 06-17-2020 at 10:03 AM.

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    Nice review - thanks!
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    It's like dayumm that drop Paul!

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    awesome write up! looking forward to getting some v3's for mine. wont be going with the ddc option though, just going to do regular v3 with ddc delete
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    Quote Originally Posted by MXblau View Post
    Nice review - thanks!
    Quote Originally Posted by niceazns3guy View Post
    It's like dayumm that drop Paul!
    Quote Originally Posted by sirclass View Post
    awesome write up! looking forward to getting some v3's for mine. wont be going with the ddc option though, just going to do regular v3 with ddc delete
    Quote Originally Posted by MarcusDubya77 View Post
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    I’m happy with the drop. It does still rub slightly under very hard dips straight on and cornering but it’s slight. I took a dremel to the problem areas in the rear wells vs. adding negative camber. It’s about as low as you can go at stock camber over 9.5 +45 265/30 PS4S and not rub really bad. I was full down on the KW HAS prior to this and had no rub at all but this set up is completely worth a touch here and there.

    Standard V3 will produce the same results just via knob adjustments and again totally worth it. Had those on my GTIs, S3 and S5. Solid coilovers.

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    so without mag ride also can install this kw v3 ddc ecu ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick_l52 View Post
    so without mag ride also can install this kw v3 ddc ecu ?
    Yes sir. Even better on that as you don’t need to buy the DTC cancellation kits.

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    Digging up this thread as I am considering this KW or the Bilstein RC…Based on the ride height adjustments in this photo, how much higher could the car be raised—or is this max height?


    Quote Originally Posted by Paul@SupremePower View Post
    Better pic showing final height. It was significantly lower but had to raise up some due to rubbing.

    Set up is 19x9.5 +45 with PS4S 265/30-19 square at stock camber:





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    Quote Originally Posted by b0bbyj0hnny View Post
    Digging up this thread as I am considering this KW or the Bilstein RC…Based on the ride height adjustments in this photo, how much higher could the car be raised—or is this max height?
    In pic is about half down. Can go a good deal more back up.

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    Will the different modes work on a car with stock fixed suspension? Currently my modes don't change anything suspension, but idk if its the same modules and the fix suspension doesn't move or a different module in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by brobst View Post
    Will the different modes work on a car with stock fixed suspension? Currently my modes don't change anything suspension, but idk if its the same modules and the fix suspension doesn't move or a different module in there

    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
    Yes the kit is a complete replacement for the car. Struts, shocks and springs. The the 3 modes work through an in cabin button supplied with the kit. Unfortunately it doesn’t integrate to the Oem drive select button on our platform

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    Where did you end up putting the button in the cabin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brobst View Post
    Where did you end up putting the button in the cabin?

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    See vid in post #1

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    Big thanks to Paul & the crew at Supreme Power for the recommendation and install of the KW V3 Coilovers! I have the static suspension...and after a few years on springs the RS3 began to bounce a bit much at speed. With the V3s I now have the ability to adjust the suspension at the click of a button and in every setting the car drives with complete confidence. I should note I also added a Neuspeed rear sway bar which also helps the car feel more pointed. I absolutely love this set-up!! Thanks Paul!

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    Quote Originally Posted by djjacks77 View Post
    Big thanks to Paul & the crew at Supreme Power for the recommendation and install of the KW V3 Coilovers! I have the static suspension...and after a few years on springs the RS3 began to bounce a bit much at speed. With the V3s I now have the ability to adjust the suspension at the click of a button and in every setting the car drives with complete confidence. I should note I also added a Neuspeed rear sway bar which also helps the car feel more pointed. I absolutely love this set-up!! Thanks Paul!
    Woot! You’re welcome.

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