Special tools needed for dismantling our engine to replace pistons/rings etc

[NitroViper]

As some of us jump into this project it would be nice to not have surprises while in the middle of the job.
Is there a tool list we need before we start this adventure?
Wondering if you needed any special tools when dismantling the engine. It would suck to get halfway through and need some special quadruple triple square hexagonal algebra nutboltsocket.... stupid german cars lol.
I already purchased a generic triple square set from amazon. But it seems like every time I do something to this car I need a different tool I dont have.

Would be great to see or have a list.

[NitroViper]

Dang thats quite the list of tools needed! lol

Well if anyone has done this lately are any triple square sockets or torx sockets needed?

[19birel]

The cylinder head bolts require a special socket. Just search VW cylinder head socket on amazon or ebay and it should pop up.

EDIT: If you don't have triple squares and torx already invest in them. I use them just about every time I work on my car lol

[dalmation53]

here we go again.... New thread for a simple ass question...

[dalmation53]

i'll answer you though. triple squares,allens,poly drive for head bolts..

[19birel]

here we go again.... New thread for a simple ass question...

Yeah to be honest when I saw who OP was I almost didn't respond.



Nothing personal NitroViper, but do your own research, and then if you still have questions, make one thread asking said questions. Tons of info around here that isn't hard to find, heck you could even find a few users who have rebuilt their engines and pick their brains via PM. Posting threads like this asking basic questions that you could easily find the answers to not only clutters the forums but will make people less likely to want to help. Also, you will be surprised at how much more you learn by searching for answers on your own.

Again, not trying to be critical, just trying to help you get the most out of the forums!

[NitroViper]

Yeah to be honest when I saw who OP was I almost didn't respond.

Nothing personal NitroViper, but do your own research, and then if you still have questions, make one thread asking said questions.

Lmao thats what I did.. try searching the forums and see what you find, good luck sitting there for 2 hours trying to find one post in 1000 to find an answer someone could answer in 5 minutes....

here we go again.... New thread for a simple ass question...

Well for one you were wrong on the pistons.. good luck when you have the oil consumption issue all over again. That thread served its purpose.

Simple question? Search for tools needed to do a piston ring job.. you wont find a specific thread and you have to comb though 500 posts to find half of the answer you need.
3 years from now someone will search the forum and find specifics threads with specific answers. And it wont be because of you guys. All they will find from you guys is search the forums....

This is easily the worst forum as far as supportive users that ive ever been to. The acura forums Audizine people answer right away, they dont beat around the bush, they dont say search the forums, they dont say do your own research... even tho thats what people are doing searching forums...

Half of the posts here people want help or have questions or post builds and no one even replies.

[19birel]

Lmao thats what I did.. try searching the forums and see what you find, good luck sitting there for 2 hours trying to find one post in 1000 to find an answer someone could answer in 5 minutes....

Using the forums internal search feature can be tricky, I typically use google and then narrow the results to be just those from Audizine.

In a case like this I wouldn’t search for a thread asking what tools to use, most people that do this sort of work already have what they need. I would search for a thread documenting the rebuild of one of these engines. (I know of at least two off hand). Heck even if you found a thread about an old 1.8T rebuild if you bet you a lot of useful info on the basics like tools and assembly tricks

Learning how to effectively search for stuff on forums takes a little practice to but you’ll be surprised at how quickly you can find stuff once you know how to look.


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[NitroViper]

In a case like this I wouldn’t search for a thread asking what tools to use, most people that do this sort of work already have what they need. I would search for a thread documenting the rebuild of one of these engines. (I know of at least two off hand). Heck even if you found a thread about an old 1.8T rebuild if you bet you a lot of useful info on the basics like tools and assembly tricks
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Done that, I even asked in specific build threads without a single reply... Like I said... if there was answers in this thread instead of teaching someone how to use the search function... when someone searches and needs to know years from now boom the thread pops up in search results. To bad instead they are going to find a thread that is a dead end because users would rather say search than just post answers.

[Theiceman]

Suck it up buttercup

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[Smac770]

A set of XZN (aka triple square) socket bits are not special tools. They are just another format, and common place on Audis. If you don't have M8 through M14 triple square, both stubby and long shaft, you don't work on Audis. Likewise, e-torx is not a special tool, just another format. Unnecessary for Audi, but don't even bother popping the hood on an MB unless you have a set. But these are all just normal toolbox tools.

Special tools are those "special" tools, like the head bolt bit for our engine. All the special tools are listed in the repair manual, engine mechanical in this case. The repair manuals can be obtained at erwin.audiusa.com. All the tools can be referenced at audi.snapon.com. The pricing for a lot is not actually that bad, but sometimes you just have to get the tool elsewhere for a sensible price.

But the manual will often say "use your widely available tool for purpose X", such as "Use piston ring pliers (commercially available) for removing and installing". So if you're doing rings, it's expected you have a set of ring pliers, there's no Audi special tool for the purpose. What kind of ring pliers, how do you know if you have the right ring pliers, that's on you to know; the manual specifies nothing more than what I typed.

[dalmation53]

WTF are you talkimg about being wrong? Theres members on here that have used those pistons with positive results. but since you seem to be incompetent to search for answers you ask for answers to be handed to you. I too have questions sometimes and I make a single thread and ask as much as i can in a SINGLE THREAD. You are just getting annoying making a thread each time you have a question. then when i search for your question i have an answer but you seem not to find anything. So people see your username and they don't even want to reply anymore lol.In fact Iceman and evolutionarmory have threads on rebuilding engines. theres tons of pics and questions on there. But you seem to get upset when no one replies. if you think audizine is helpless you are free to leave anytime. or stay and learn bro.

Lmao thats what I did.. try searching the forums and see what you find, good luck sitting there for 2 hours trying to find one post in 1000 to find an answer someone could answer in 5 minutes....



Well for one you were wrong on the pistons.. good luck when you have the oil consumption issue all over again. That thread served its purpose.

Simple question? Search for tools needed to do a piston ring job.. you wont find a specific thread and you have to comb though 500 posts to find half of the answer you need.
3 years from now someone will search the forum and find specifics threads with specific answers. And it wont be because of you guys. All they will find from you guys is search the forums....

This is easily the worst forum as far as supportive users that ive ever been to. The acura forums Audizine people answer right away, they dont beat around the bush, they dont say search the forums, they dont say do your own research... even tho thats what people are doing searching forums...

Half of the posts here people want help or have questions or post builds and no one even replies.

[NitroViper]

WTF are you talkimg about being wrong? Theres members on here that have used those pistons with positive results. but since you seem to be incompetent to search for answers you ask for answers to be handed to you. I too have questions sometimes and I make a single thread and ask as much as i can in a SINGLE THREAD. You are just getting annoying making a thread each time you have a question. then when i search for your question i have an answer but you seem not to find anything. So people see your username and they don't even want to reply anymore lol.In fact Iceman and evolutionarmory have threads on rebuilding engines. theres tons of pics and questions on there. But you seem to get upset when no one replies. if you think audizine is helpless you are free to leave anytime. or stay and learn bro.

Like I said good luck with your rebuild job with pistons that are just going to cause oil consumption again lol. The pistons you recommend are no different than stock oil rings. Have fun with that in 40k miles.

Stick together all you want, you arent hurting my feelings lmao.

A set of XZN (aka triple square) socket bits are not special tools. They are just another format, and common place on Audis. If you don't have M8 through M14 triple square, both stubby and long shaft, you don't work on Audis. Likewise, e-torx is not a special tool, just another format. Unnecessary for Audi, but don't even bother popping the hood on an MB unless you have a set. But these are all just normal toolbox tools.

Special tools are those "special" tools, like the head bolt bit for our engine. All the special tools are listed in the repair manual, engine mechanical in this case. The repair manuals can be obtained at erwin.audiusa.com. All the tools can be referenced at audi.snapon.com. The pricing for a lot is not actually that bad, but sometimes you just have to get the tool elsewhere for a sensible price.

But the manual will often say "use your widely available tool for purpose X", such as "Use piston ring pliers (commercially available) for removing and installing". So if you're doing rings, it's expected you have a set of ring pliers, there's no Audi special tool for the purpose. What kind of ring pliers, how do you know if you have the right ring pliers, that's on you to know; the manual specifies nothing more than what I typed.

That is a reply that will help users for years. It is really that simple. Smac770 and Oldman are the most helpful users ive seen on this forum.
Ive worked on cars for years and years, changed many engines and rebuilt them as well. Those arent normal tools everyone has in their toolbox. Obviously a shop would but not a guy that works on what comes his way and very rarely are they german cars. Ring pliers are pretty much universal but triple square and head bolt bits arent.

Since German cars do alot of things differently I didnt want to be surprised and have to pause the job waiting on a tool I didnt have.

[dalmation53]

If it happens again at 40k miles then i'll probably not even care at that point for a 10 year old car with oil issues. wasn't trying to hurt no ones feelings. i'm just stating facts here. I honestly don't even have an issue with you tbh. I'm just trying to help you out instead giving you answers and showing you pictures my guy.

Like I said good luck with your rebuild job with pistons that are just going to cause oil consumption again lol. The pistons you recommend are no different than stock oil rings. Have fun with that in 40k miles.

Stick together all you want, you arent hurting my feelings lmao.



That is a reply that will help users for years. It is really that simple. Smac770 and Oldman are the most helpful users ive seen on this forum.
Ive worked on cars for years and years, changed many engines and rebuilt them as well. Those arent normal tools everyone has in their toolbox. Obviously a shop would but not a guy that works on what comes his way and very rarely are they german cars. Ring pliers are pretty much universal but triple square and head bolt bits arent.

Since German cars do alot of things differently I didnt want to be surprised and have to pause the job waiting on a tool I didnt have.

[Smac770]

Looks like you will need e-torx if you're digging that far into the engine:
youtu.be/EsaAWLGCcxI?t=262

I think I remember someone asking about that some time back. E10 maybe?

An interesting video showing the original and replacement rings:
https://youtu.be/Y37CkXA_vyw

[NitroViper]

Looks like you will need e-torx if you're digging that far into the engine:
youtu.be/EsaAWLGCcxI?t=262

I think I remember someone asking about that some time back. E10 maybe?

An interesting video showing the original and replacement rings:
https://youtu.be/Y37CkXA_vyw

Just ordered a set, thanks for that. I been trying to find people actually working on these motors on yourtube but they are are time lapse... Maybe ill make the long version...

[Theiceman]

https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...engine+refresh

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