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    Hello All,

    I am looking at an RS7 with 25k miles , its the performance edition and my big concern is that as a daily driver maintenance will be ungodly expensive. Specifically the carbon ceramic brakes.

    Can someone give me an idea of what I am looking at, what to watch out for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzettler83 View Post
    Hello All,

    I am looking at an RS7 with 25k miles , its the performance edition and my big concern is that as a daily driver maintenance will be ungodly expensive. Specifically the carbon ceramic brakes.

    Can someone give me an idea of what I am looking at, what to watch out for?
    Those brakes should last you the lifetime of your vehicle, unless you plan on tracking it often. If you plan on tracking, switch out to steel rotors for the track if you're concerned about cost. Buy audicare for maintenance and find an Indy shop for maintenance in between scheduled maintenance

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    Well IMO, the only reason to to really go for the performance RS7 is for the ceramic brakes. They are absolutely awesome. But you're correct. They are ungodly expensive. But also much much longer lasting than the base wave rotors. So at 25k, you should need to change those rotors for a very long time. Not sure what your annual mileage would be, and tough to predict how long they would last, but I'm sure you are safe from a brake perspective for probably the length of time you have the car unless you track it maybe

    There are always aftermarket options that can be cheaper but also high quality. I'm in the process of installing new wave rotors on my '17 RS7 and there's a good thread on here with great aftermarket options for roughly 50% of what Audi would charge you.

    Other maintenance items are much cheaper than the brakes, but that's relative. It's not a Ford focus. Overall fairly bulletproof motor and it shouldnt be exuberant unless something goes wrong (ie turbos).

    Can I ask why you're after the performance model instead of the base? Brakes are cheaper lol. But need to be changed more often.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzettler83 View Post
    Hello All,

    I am looking at an RS7 with 25k miles , its the performance edition and my big concern is that as a daily driver maintenance will be ungodly expensive. Specifically the carbon ceramic brakes.

    Can someone give me an idea of what I am looking at, what to watch out for?
    Jump all over it and never look back. The interior is fantastic, and depending on other options, like titanium exhaust, B&O soundsystem, DRC suspension, and the ceramic brakes, you’ll be extremely happy. Make sure you do a high quality oil change every 5k, change the transmission fluid at 35k, and likely change the turbo oil screens prior to 50k, and you’ll be in great shape. You should only have to change the brake pads a few times, and has been mentioned the rotors hopefully never, as the fronts alone retail for $9k a pair!


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackout85 View Post
    Well IMO, the only reason to to really go for the performance RS7 is for the ceramic brakes. They are absolutely awesome. But you're correct. They are ungodly expensive. But also much much longer lasting than the base wave rotors. So at 25k, you should need to change those rotors for a very long time. Not sure what your annual mileage would be, and tough to predict how long they would last, but I'm sure you are safe from a brake perspective for probably the length of time you have the car unless you track it maybe

    There are always aftermarket options that can be cheaper but also high quality. I'm in the process of installing new wave rotors on my '17 RS7 and there's a good thread on here with great aftermarket options for roughly 50% of what Audi would charge you.

    Other maintenance items are much cheaper than the brakes, but that's relative. It's not a Ford focus. Overall fairly bulletproof motor and it shouldnt be exuberant unless something goes wrong (ie turbos).

    Can I ask why you're after the performance model instead of the base? Brakes are cheaper lol. But need to be changed more often.

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    I am looking at both but when there is an extra 50hp available I might as well look. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by bzettler83 View Post
    I am looking at both but when there is an extra 50hp available I might as well look. :-)
    Lol nice. I don't disagree with the more power logic!

    The last post commented on upgraded interior which is also true. But the rest of the stuff can all be done aftermarket for likely cheaper (ie: exhuast, tune that will bring it to 700+hp, carbon steering wheels, etc). Not saying that's the way to go... But your money might go further depending on what you plan on doing with it. I have a great contact who does the carbon wheels about 1/3 the price of what you'd find on the internet and the quality is hands down unbelievable. I've got a few wheels done by him. Not trying to sell you on anything... Just saying. Aftermarket things are always available.

    There is a company (nameless for sale of this forum) that sells an oil screen filter relocation kit. It's not proven to prevent turbos blowing (that's tough to prove and needs lots of numbers to compare) but considering the cost of changing the filter screen, might as well buy the kit and just clean the filter at will... Makes you sleep better at night knowing that you've done something to likely prevent that problem.

    Either way you won't be disappointed. Good problems you're having right now!

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    If the extra power is really one of your top reasons, I would personally go with the “non-performance” RS7 and just install APR Stage 1 for $3k which will add way more power than the stock Performance model.


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    I daily my RS7 and love it! It’s a great car. I have the regular brakes and rotors and just replaced them last year. Oh well yes it’s a bit more expensive but it’s worth it.

    Those ceramics will last a long time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeytonBrandt View Post
    If the extra power is really one of your top reasons, I would personally go with the “non-performance” RS7 and just install APR Stage 1 for $3k which will add way more power than the stock Performance model.


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    +1

    Depending on delivery date, you likely have 1 year or less on manufacturer warranty anyway (MY2017)
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    I have owned 3 Audi's in the past. An 2012 S4 with an APR stage 1, and most recently an 2014 C7 S6 with an APR Stage 1. I would love an extended warranty as I plan to keep this, or at least hope to keep this one for a few years. If I can get the HP i want out of a factory option I would like to go that route this time around.

    I am looking at a 2018 S6 as well.... Not sure how I feel about the hatchback S7 design, but as you all know there is no C7 RS6.

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    The Performance does have punch but the overboost is the only time it would really try to get to that 605hp number. Eventually you will get used to the power and know that more is just a flash away, once you know what unbottling the ecu can do your mind drifts to the possibilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bzettler83 View Post
    If I can get the HP i want out of a factory option I would like to go that route this time around.
    Just out of genuine curiosity, why is that?
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    I had this same dilemma 6 months ago... Simply it came down to "Would I regret NOT getting the Performance option?"... and the answer is YES!

    I purchased my RS7p with 21k, for less than 75k... more than 2 years left on the Factory warranty, fully optioned (over 145K sticker).

    NO REGRETS! I have done the intake and tune (Boost Dynamic), working on the exhaust (down pipes to eliminate the front resonators) and I love my nightly ride home with the massage seats kneading out the daily knots in my back.

    I still watch the cars as they come up for sale... not sure what you are looking for but Momentum BMW in Houston Texas has a real nice Blue 17 Performance with only 2100 miles.

    I wish this had been available when I was buying...

    Good luck and don't "settle" for less than what you want... that ALWAYS brings regrets!
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    Quote Originally Posted by delz05 View Post
    I had this same dilemma 6 months ago... Simply it came down to "Would I regret NOT getting the Performance option?"... and the answer is YES!

    I purchased my RS7p with 21k, for less than 75k... more than 2 years left on the Factory warranty, fully optioned (over 145K sticker).

    NO REGRETS! I have done the intake and tune (Boost Dynamic), working on the exhaust (down pipes to eliminate the front resonators) and I love my nightly ride home with the massage seats kneading out the daily knots in my back.

    I still watch the cars as they come up for sale... not sure what you are looking for but Momentum BMW in Houston Texas has a real nice Blue 17 Performance with only 2100 miles.

    I wish this had been available when I was buying...

    Good luck and don't "settle" for less than what you want... that ALWAYS brings regrets!
    The one @ Momentum appears to have the cold weather package (a bit odd for a Texas car so it likely came from somewhere else). It also does not have the COMFORT seats with message action and it looks like it does not have the B&) stereo either so it might be on the low-end of the P editions but the miles sure are low/non-existent.
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    I fell in love with the CCB and DRC and why I bought an RS7P. Daily driven no issues. Plus those rims are awesome!
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    I have a 2015 C7.5 non performance with dynamic pack plus and the ceramics are well worth having. Had my car inspected at 80k miles and they were 22% worn, they will last your ownership unless you’re tracking the car.

    Mines a daily driver, just touching 90k miles now and had zero issues. These cars are built to be driven regularly, do that with mechanical sympathy and you’ll have minimal issues


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    I was tempted by the performance model only because I wanted the CCBs. I knew that I would get an ECU flash which negated the power advantage and I read enough horror stories about DRC reliability and wanted the cushy ride of the air suspension since this is one of my DDs, not my sports car. So, I ended up with the regular RS7. I don't regret it as I didn't want the DRC. If I could've bought it with an air suspension I might've as CCBs are amazing.
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