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    B8/8.5 RS5/4 Dyno Result Page

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    Instead of cluttering up other threads with chat about which mods make what power, lets post them all up here.

    I guess useful info to have would be:
    1. The Brand and Type of Dyno used. Dyno's use different methods to calculate power, some give accurate wheel HP numbers, other give accurate engine power numbers, some give torque, others don't.
    2. Date and temperature (dyno should adjust for atmospheric conditions but still good to know for those that don't)
    3. Modifications

    One thing that seems to be a common fact with these engines, they very rarely give the factory quoted 444HP. My Dyno operator, a German guy who's spent many years working with Audi engines said "this will make 426Hp" and as you will see bellow, he was on the money.

    Maha LPS 3000 AWD.
    These dyno's give very accurate engine HP and torque figures although their loss numbers will seem alarmingly high and wheel numbers very low. They are industry standard for VAG.

    7th Jan 2016 / 11am / 25'C

    Car was completely stock with approximately 19,000Km on the clock, car loaded onto the dyno, several bags of sand loaded into the trunk for ballast and the car strapped down, checked the tire pressures were at factory settings.

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    The car made 425.8HP and 410Nm there was a strange bulge in the torque at 4500rpm that we couldn't explain and didn't repeat on any other run, possibly the car adjusting to running on the dyno?

    We then allowed the car to cool and didn't move it from the dyno. Installed the Eventuri intake with the car still on the dyno.

    13:44 / 27.8'C

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    With the intake installed the power jumped up to 450HP and the torque increased slightly to 415Nm, the strange bulge in the torque had flattened out. I wish we had done a second run with OE intake to see if this bulge was an anomaly, the operator had never seen an RS5 do it before. if you look how the torque curve was tracking it would make the Eventuri gains seem normal.

    Run 3
    13:47 / 28'C

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    Power has now settled to 446.7HP and 425Nm

    Eventuri gained 21.1HP and 15.6Nm


    We decided to allow the car to adjust to the intake for a week and then bring it back for a final dyno run.

    Same dyno, same tire pressure check and same ballast in car, I did have to fill the car on the way as it was empty by now so that could not be kept a constant, I filled with 98RON but driving to the dyno shop the car felt very sluggish, like they feel on a hot day when everything is being pulled back.

    18 Jan 2016 / 15:21 / 28'C

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    446.9HP and 417Nm, the power is the same as previous but the torque is down slightly. It could have been the fuel, we will never know but once that tank was used up and filled again, it felt back to it's healthy self.

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    Car on the dyno in OE specification form as it used to be many years ago.

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    I included RS4 in the title as SteveRS4 may want to join in but this forum doesn't support the B8 RS4, it's all identical to the RS5 engine and drivetrain.

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    Good info James! It’s crazy the drag losses. Almost 180hp . And too bad you didn’t do another dyno back to the stock setup to eliminate any chance of an anomaly. Would have sole me at that point.
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    Interesting wheel horsepower figure. Seems like a lot more drive train loss than I'd expect?

    I had my S5 4.2L dyno'd recently and it read surprisingly well. I can post it later. Higher than what your RS5 wheel horse power reading is.

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    When I first dynod my car, the losses was similar to what is on James graphs. Both operator and myself thought something was broken so we threw it out.
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    Interesting wheel horsepower figure. Seems like a lot more drive train loss than I'd expect?

    I had my S5 4.2L dyno'd recently and it read surprisingly well. I can post it later. Higher than what your RS5 wheel horse power reading is.

    As I said don't look too deeply at the losses and don't look at wheel HP, that's just how this type of dyno calculates the engine power. A wheel HP dyno will give you just that, it isn't looking at losses it's just telling you what's at the wheels so you cannot compare your result chart to this, it's like comparing apples to onions.

    I used this crank calculating dyno for its accuracy and to eliminate any variables, the numbers at the crank is exactly what the engine is producing and not a variable of wheel HP so any modification would be accurately measured.
    Last edited by JamesRS5; 05-10-2020 at 10:36 PM.

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    Would be good to also add dragy data for each car measured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murazor View Post
    Would be good to also add dragy data for each car measured.
    Great idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sazexa View Post
    Interesting wheel horsepower figure. Seems like a lot more drive train loss than I'd expect?

    I had my S5 4.2L dyno'd recently and it read surprisingly well. I can post it later. Higher than what your RS5 wheel horse power reading is.

    different dynos cannot be compared. James' RS5 would probably read higher than your s5 on that same dyno. The only number that means something is the delta , (stock vs aftermarket) which shows a positive gain.

    Thanks James !
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    brilliant James. I would love to see @apefactory results here. Alsosome cat back exhaust impact

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    My original dyno guy packed up his dyno and returned to Germany, there is one more Maha dyno in town but its currently out of commission as they are refitting the shop. Yesterday I spoke to another shop who have just installed a wheel HP dyno that calculates crank HP, I believe it's an Australian manufacture (Will find out the brand) and they have been over to do the install and setup. I may pay them a visit to see where I am with the Eventuri and AWE downpipe/Capristo setup and then do a post JHM tune run to see the gains if I go that way.

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    Time to check if a stage 2 RS5 is quicker than a stage 2 Tuned S5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda1 View Post
    Time to check if a stage 2 RS5 is quicker than a stage 2 Tuned S5
    Lol right! Sig bets for James!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda1 View Post
    Time to check if a stage 2 RS5 is quicker than a stage 2 Tuned S5
    It’ll be painfully close with the 3.0t! We’ve had some stock RS5s beating Stage 1 S5 guys. I’m not too sure about the B8 S5s (V8), but I’m pretty sure we’d beat them too lol.
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    What numbers are for St2 3.0?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Murazor View Post
    What numbers are for St2 3.0?
    You’ll probably get these numbers on the draggy thread below.
    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...official-times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoda1 View Post
    You’ll probably get these numbers on the draggy thread below.
    https://www.audizine.com/forum/showt...official-times
    Doesn't look like that's possible even if JHM2 will give me numbers that are claimed here. But still there's a lot of stuff i haven't done yet, so we will see.

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    Yup. It’s not a road to take with the rs5 lol.

    Well it’s a tough road. Straight line performance on our V8 compared to a naturally FI designed car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murazor View Post
    Doesn't look like that's possible even if JHM2 will give me numbers that are claimed here. But still there's a lot of stuff i haven't done yet, so we will see.
    Those numbers also include the Stage 2+ for the 3.0t, which is ultracharged. I’d wait for our version of Stage 2+ lol.
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    There are only two ways to increase further this engines power, put a SC on it, or release some flow by removing catalytic converters as I did.

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