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    TTE700 - Unitronic - 93 Octane - Audi RS3 - 1/4 Mile Runs

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    Just starting to scratch the surface on the potential of this turbo. Me thinks sh$t is gonna get nutty...


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    Nice. Looking forward to the E85 results.

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    Great video!! Quick question- on built motor file with e85, will you be running an Iroz fuel pump or stock?

    Also- are those 17 inch with drag radials?

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    Awesome video, thanks man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race View Post
    Great video!! Quick question- on built motor file with e85, will you be running an Iroz fuel pump or stock?

    Also- are those 17 inch with drag radials?

    Thanks!
    I think on his YouTube video he says yes to the upgraded fuel pump in the comments section below the video.

    Thanks for the update Adam!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race View Post
    Great video!! Quick question- on built motor file with e85, will you be running an Iroz fuel pump or stock?

    Also- are those 17 inch with drag radials?

    Thanks!
    I will be using an Iroz LPFP for the built motor file.

    They are 17" RE-71R's, not radials.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VancityAudi View Post
    They are 17" RE-71R's, not radials.
    How long have you been running these? Any thoughts on performance vs longevity? I wanted a little more grip than the (still very good) MP4S offer, and my RE-71R just got delivered today. I'm hoping they can give me the grip and still not wear down quickly on easy highway miles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheeba View Post
    How long have you been running these? Any thoughts on performance vs longevity? I wanted a little more grip than the (still very good) MP4S offer, and my RE-71R just got delivered today. I'm hoping they can give me the grip and still not wear down quickly on easy highway miles.
    They have been pretty amazing performance wise. They are sticky AF and pick up every single rock you drive over. As for longevity I don't expect to get a ton of miles out of them. They are meant for performance, not for wear.

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    I thought that your motor was built already. Didn't you had a mechanical failure and you already fixed? I am saying it because you are mentioning on the video that you will built the motor. On a different note, with all the data that you are collecting we will find out if the few thousand dollars extra on putting a TTE 700 and the tune is worth the jump from Stage 2. Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S3DUDE View Post
    I thought that your motor was built already. Didn't you had a mechanical failure and you already fixed? I am saying it because you are mentioning on the video that you will built the motor. On a different note, with all the data that you are collecting we will find out if the few thousand dollars extra on putting a TTE 700 and the tune is worth the jump from Stage 2. Thanks for sharing.

    I haven't missed any of your videos since you released them.
    If you haven't missed any of my videos then I'm not sure why are you are asking what you're asking... My motor is built, but I am using a stock motor tune. I'm simply going through the tunes that Unitronic offers on the TTE700 to provide everyone data and information on the performance you are able to achieve by using the parts I am and the tunes I am. First the TTE700 on 93 octane meant for a stock block, then the TTE700 on E85 meant for a stock block and then finally the TTE700 on E85 for a built block. That way people will have a better understanding of what their money will get them in terms of performance and how hard they want to push their cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VancityAudi View Post
    If you haven't missed any of my videos then I'm not sure why are you are asking what you're asking... My motor is built, but I am using a stock motor tune. I'm simply going through the tunes that Unitronic offers on the TTE700 to provide everyone data and information on the performance you are able to achieve by using the parts I am and the tunes I am. First the TTE700 on 93 octane meant for a stock block, then the TTE700 on E85 meant for a stock block and then finally the TTE700 on E85 for a built block. That way people will have a better understanding of what their money will get them in terms of performance and how hard they want to push their cars.
    ^^^This.

    Appreciate how you clearly communicate your mod path & stages, very helpful & informative for the community!

    Looking forward to a hybrid turbo set up with stock block eventually. I see TTE700 prices at various sites...$2700 with core exchange vs ~ $5000 without, correct?

    Is the 5K price for someone else's rebuilt core + hybrid components or an all new turbo? I guess I like the peace of mind of an all new turbo, but if it's just someone else's used OEM turbo + hybrid components I'd rather use my own core since I know how it was used...if that makes sense?
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    If you are interested in purchasing a TTE700 you can reach out to John Staffi directly, the Techincal Director of Unitronic at [email protected]. If they have any in stock he'll hook you up. If they don't have any then he may direct you straight to the TTE website like I did.

    I'm honestly not sure if they use brand new turbos, but I'm assuming no, they don't. They ask for core returns so they can beef up the internals and sell the TTE700 and TTE777's. I could be totally wrong on this though. This would be a question directly for TTE to answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by bucolic View Post
    ^^^This.

    Appreciate how you clearly communicate your mod path & stages, very helpful & informative for the community!

    Looking forward to a hybrid turbo set up with stock block eventually. I see TTE700 prices at various sites...$2700 with core exchange vs ~ $5000 without, correct?

    Is the 5K price for someone else's rebuilt core + hybrid components or an all new turbo? I guess I like the peace of mind of an all new turbo, but if it's just someone else's used OEM turbo + hybrid components I'd rather use my own core since I know how it was used...if that makes sense?


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    Hi
    Thanks for sharing again.
    Are you running 93 oct directly from the pump or are you on a E20 blend like you used to be at winter time?


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    Stoked to see your e85 runs. I'm smelling 9's!

    I don't understand how you are launching w/o traction control. Are you in sport or fully off? Those tires must be super grippy cuz my ps4s still looses traction if I don't nail the launch [and I'm only running 10.7's]
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    Love the video, thanks for sharing. Excited to see next steps so I know what to buy next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    Hi
    Thanks for sharing again.
    Are you running 93 oct directly from the pump or are you on a E20 blend like you used to be at winter time?


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    Our fuel here in Vancouver, Canada is so horrible I would never run straight pump gas in my RS3. It would perform horribly and have massive amounts of timing being pulled.

    I use a 94 octane fuel we have here that has zero ethanol content. I then blend in 15 to 20% ethanol to boost up my octane level to make sure that my car is running as well as it can be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Potshot View Post
    Stoked to see your e85 runs. I'm smelling 9's!

    I don't understand how you are launching w/o traction control. Are you in sport or fully off? Those tires must be super grippy cuz my ps4s still looses traction if I don't nail the launch [and I'm only running 10.7's]
    I am launching with traction control fully off, like I mention in my videos. My tires are much stickier than PS4S's. I also have a Wavetrac LSD that helps them bite better in the front. If you look at my 60ft times on my Dragy numbers that I share in my videos that will show you how well I am launching. Sometimes I'm launch poorly too in my videos.

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    Is the a, or will there be a 93 octane built engine file?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHOTTA RS View Post
    Is the a, or will there be a 93 octane built engine file?
    To my knowledge there will not be. At least not one from Unitronic.

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    Unfortunate for those who want to max out their turbo on 93/94 octane

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHOTTA RS View Post
    Unfortunate for those who want to max out their turbo on 93/94 octane
    The 93 file is pretty maxed out for 93 octane. No need for a built motor 93 file

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    RE71R is a autocross tire with very stiff sidewalls. The rubber is soft but a stiff side wall can get wheels hopping.
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    At what point is a LPFP upgrade needed? I thought these smaller hybrid turbo didn't need them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by omniphil View Post
    At what point is a LPFP upgrade needed? I thought these smaller hybrid turbo didn't need them?
    I think with Stage 3/hybrid turbo E85 tune a LPFP is needed. Stage 3/hybrid turbo 93 oct tune is ok with OEM fuel pump though.

    I may be wrong, maybe Unitronic or hybrid turbo owners will chime in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bucolic View Post
    I think with Stage 3/hybrid turbo E85 tune a LPFP is needed. Stage 3/hybrid turbo 93 oct tune is ok with OEM fuel pump though.

    I may be wrong, maybe Unitronic or hybrid turbo owners will chime in.
    You’re wrong :P
    It all depends on the tuner. With Unitronic, your OEM LPFP works fine for the Stock Block hybrid turbo maps. There is a VERY small percentage of RS3’s that have weak OEM LPFP’s, but that can be solved with a new OEM LPFP ($320).

    If you’re Built Block and want to run the Unitronic Built Block hybrid maps, then you’ll need to upgrade to 4-bar MAP sensors and an Iroz LPFP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Painstain View Post
    You’re wrong :P
    It all depends on the tuner. With Unitronic, your OEM LPFP works fine for the Stock Block hybrid turbo maps. There is a VERY small percentage of RS3’s that have weak OEM LPFP’s, but that can be solved with a new OEM LPFP ($320).

    If you’re Built Block and want to run the Unitronic Built Block hybrid maps, then you’ll need to upgrade to 4-bar MAP sensors and an Iroz LPFP.
    Ha! No worries! Just glad for the clarification & good info, thanks!

    Out of curiosity, are you stock or built block? Care to share daily driving impressions of Stage 3 E85 vs Stage 2 E85?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Painstain View Post
    You’re wrong :P
    It all depends on the tuner. With Unitronic, your OEM LPFP works fine for the Stock Block hybrid turbo maps. There is a VERY small percentage of RS3’s that have weak OEM LPFP’s, but that can be solved with a new OEM LPFP ($320).

    If you’re Built Block and want to run the Unitronic Built Block hybrid maps, then you’ll need to upgrade to 4-bar MAP sensors and an Iroz LPFP.
    My question is 4bar map sensor? What does this do? I have got my motor built now, got iroz pump but didnt get 4 bar map. Any help with this would be great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bucolic View Post
    Ha! No worries! Just glad for the clarification & good info, thanks!

    Out of curiosity, are you stock or built block? Care to share daily driving impressions of Stage 3 E85 vs Stage 2 E85?
    Hehe. Yeah, I was just being silly. I'm glad I could provide some info.
    I'm stock block and there's not much difference in regular daily driving between Stage 2 & 3 E85. However, when driving aggressively there is a HUGE difference (about 150hp worth). It's like the power never stops. I love it soooo much. 100% worth the price of admission.
    Besides the upgrade being somewhat expensive, I see zero downsides to going Stage 3.


    Quote Originally Posted by Eat.Sleep.Race View Post
    My question is 4bar map sensor? What does this do? I have got my motor built now, got iroz pump but didnt get 4 bar map. Any help with this would be great.
    The 4-bar MAP sensor allows the ECU to read boost above 29psi. From the factory, our cars come with 3-bar sensors which only allow us the ECU to request up to 3-bar/29psi (3-bar = 43.5psi (minus atmospheric pressure (14.7psi)) - so our cars can only read and request 3-bar from the turbo. When you upgrade to 4-bar, the ECU can read and command up to 4-bar/43.5psi from the turbo.

    Just FYI: the sensor doesn't command anything, it only allows the ECU to read up to the sensor's max calibration - so just because you have a 4-bar MAP sensor does not mean your ECU/turbo will make or request 43.5psi.
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    Why dint u go with tte777? if you have a built motor already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramimardinii View Post
    Why dint u go with tte777? if you have a built motor already?
    Lack of tuning options. Adam is running Unitronic and they currently only have TTE700 tunes available.
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    I would assume the 777 is a bigger turbo. Is it still a hybrid?
    How much more power would the 777 make over the 700?


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    Quote Originally Posted by context.eax View Post
    I would assume the 777 is a bigger turbo. Is it still a hybrid?
    How much more power would the 777 make over the 700?


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    Thanks for the driving impressions update Adam!

    Doesn't seem like you miss the torque vs Stage 2 E85 even in daily driving? Though I imagine people's driving style does matter...

    Also, later spool doesn't seem to negatively affect performance much either, though I suppose DSG/TCU tune (or manual control) helps with that?

    TTE700 for folks who only have access to 93 oct seems like a no-brainer like you said... BUT, can't wait for E85 numbers/impressions! So glad to have access where I live!
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    Ya, I was extremely impressed with the 93 tune on the TTE700. I agree with you that everyone's driving style varies, but for me I didn't miss the torque at all daily driving. Once that turbo spools up, just hold on. It's just as fast as E85 Stage 2.

    This E85 tune on the TTE700 is a whole other level. Super pumped to share the videos with you all starting this weekend.
    Quote Originally Posted by bucolic View Post
    Thanks for the driving impressions update Adam!

    Doesn't seem like you miss the torque vs Stage 2 E85 even in daily driving? Though I imagine people's driving style does matter...

    Also, later spool doesn't seem to negatively affect performance much either, though I suppose DSG/TCU tune (or manual control) helps with that?

    TTE700 for folks who only have access to 93 oct seems like a no-brainer like you said... BUT, can't wait for E85 numbers/impressions! So glad to have access where I live!
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    What is the peak boost pressure on the 93 octane file?


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    Quote Originally Posted by RSKYBET View Post
    What is the peak boost pressure on the 93 octane file?


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    I think it was 31/32lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Painstain View Post
    You’re wrong :P
    It all depends on the tuner. With Unitronic, your OEM LPFP works fine for the Stock Block hybrid turbo maps. There is a VERY small percentage of RS3’s that have weak OEM LPFP’s, but that can be solved with a new OEM LPFP ($320).

    If you’re Built Block and want to run the Unitronic Built Block hybrid maps, then you’ll need to upgrade to 4-bar MAP sensors and an Iroz LPFP.
    Confused on how he is wrong? He stated that hybrid turbo + e85 requires a LPFP upgrade. You are saying that with Unitronic, the OEM LPFP works fine for stock block, hybrid turbo, e85 fueling? I've yet to see any off the shelf maps for hybrid turbo/e85/oem lpfp. I know CC was working on something, but it never came to fruition as far as I know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd_rs3 View Post
    Confused on how he is wrong? He stated that hybrid turbo + e85 requires a LPFP upgrade. You are saying that with Unitronic, the OEM LPFP works fine for stock block, hybrid turbo, e85 fueling? I've yet to see any off the shelf maps for hybrid turbo/e85/oem lpfp. I know CC was working on something, but it never came to fruition as far as I know.
    Yes, that is exactly what I’m saying and how he was misinformed. Unitronic has not ‘officially’ released their tunes, but there is no LPFP upgrade required for stock block/hybrid/E85. You can always contact Brian or John @ Unitronic for more info.
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    It's good to know this option is available (I for one would be interested for sure, as having to upgrade my LPFP is not something I want to do). The fact it isn't advertised is interesting, but I'd rather not get into that conversation. Bottom line - Stock LPFP, Stock Block, Hybrid Turbo, E85 tuning is doable through Unitronic. That is awesome. Thank you for sharing this information!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jd_rs3 View Post
    It's good to know this option is available (I for one would be interested for sure, as having to upgrade my LPFP is not something I want to do). The fact it isn't advertised is interesting, but I'd rather not get into that conversation. Bottom line - Stock LPFP, Stock Block, Hybrid Turbo, E85 tuning is doable through Unitronic. That is awesome. Thank you for sharing this information!
    You’re welcome! It would be nice if Uni would put out more information publicly, but until they officially release their Stage 3 tunes, you basically have to “know a guy” in order to learn about them. I’m not sure who’s Stage 2 you’re running, but if it’s Unitronic then I highly recommend joining the WhatsApp chat group (lots of good info and good people to chat with, including Brian and John).
    2001.5 Audi S4 (2.7T/6MT)
    ETspec/Precision 6266/Weight Reduction/E85/WMI

    2012 Audi TTRS (2.5T/6MT)
    034MS St2+/Stock Turbo/FBO/Weight Reduction/100oct/WMI

    2019 Audi RS3 (2.5T/DSG) - RIP
    Unitronic St3/TTE700/FBO/Weight Reduction/E85/WMI

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