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    Pistons On ebay OEM.

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    Has anyone bought pistons and ebay to fix oil consumption. they are not ebay brand they are kolbenshmidt and genuine rods.

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    Just because the picture shows they are of a certain brand does not mean that is what you will receive. But it might be worth it to try, worst case you can get your money back from the CC company.

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    Hey, those are from china right?

    I just bought all my rebuild parts from there and they do look legit. I had my mechanic check them out too and he vouched for them. Just make sure to contact the seller to ask if they are genuine and ask for pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johncop925 View Post
    Hey, those are from china right?

    I just bought all my rebuild parts from there and they do look legit. I had my mechanic check them out too and he vouched for them. Just make sure to contact the seller to ask if they are genuine and ask for pictures.
    sorry but i would not trust anything form China, especially those things that " are genuine audi , they just have the symbol ground off" inside my engine . But to each his own i guess.
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    really thats great to hear what seller did you buy from? also was this for oil consumption rebuild?
    Quote Originally Posted by johncop925 View Post
    Hey, those are from china right?

    I just bought all my rebuild parts from there and they do look legit. I had my mechanic check them out too and he vouched for them. Just make sure to contact the seller to ask if they are genuine and ask for pictures.
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    I've found a lot of the cheap real OEM (at least I think so) on ebay is from Latvia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji16 View Post
    really thats great to hear what seller did you buy from? also was this for oil consumption rebuild?

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    lol Completely ignoring everyone telling you not to buy chinese pistons from ebay.

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    Throw some Woosner foraged pistons in there an call it a day https://www.fourseasontuning.com/k94...8250-8350.html

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    But those won't fit the 21mm pin for stock rods will they?
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    Throw some Woosner foraged pistons in there an call it a day https://www.fourseasontuning.com/k94...8250-8350.html

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    I did not read description until i clicked on it. seems like this are 21mm pins and stock rods are 21 also so that means if i buy this set i don't have to buy rods. just slap this mfs on and stop oil consumption on my A4.

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    Maybe you and dalmation can both get them..he is looking for a cheap solution also.

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    Haha I bought that timing chain kit in ebay that said it was "OEM" and remember it was a "Deima" brand. I did get my money back. I'm looking for a cheap solution as we in parts. I know labor is $800 for me if i can do all this for $1500 i'm a happy man. Although Kolbenshmdit is OEM supplier for pistons. I don't see why it would not work. and the rods appear to have the logo on them and they seem legit. not saying is 100% but shit. doesn't hurt to see what i get.
    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    Maybe you and dalmation can both get them..he is looking for a cheap solution also.

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    I bought the brand "Bremmen" from ECS, it was a gamble, but its being sold buy a reputable performance company who I don't think would sell shit products with a high failure rate. Haven't had any issues with them at all for 20k miles or more.

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    Are you talking about the timing chain kit Assembled by ECS?
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32 View Post
    I bought the brand "Bremmen" from ECS, it was a gamble, but its being sold buy a reputable performance company who I don't think would sell shit products with a high failure rate. Haven't had any issues with them at all for 20k miles or more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalmation53 View Post
    Are you talking about the timing chain kit Assembled by ECS?
    No, if you look at the individual parts you will see that particular brand available for sale along with Febi and OEM.

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    how many people have actually uses rislone ring sealer on the oil with good results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji16 View Post
    how many people have actually uses rislone ring sealer on the oil with good results?

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    I have been using engine restore with every other oil change and it worked wonders.

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    Are we talking about the same product? So have you had oil consumption and engine restore has actually helped burn less oil?
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    I have been using engine restore with every other oil change and it worked wonders.
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    My engine was rebuilt at 60k but it still suffered from oil consumption after the rebuild. 5w40 oil and engine restore cut that consumption in half. Its not a miracle cure but I can honestly say it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32 View Post
    My engine was rebuilt at 60k but it still suffered from oil consumption after the rebuild. 5w40 oil and engine restore cut that consumption in half. Its not a miracle cure but I can honestly say it works.
    i was wondering about this and was curious about what " worked wonders" meant.. as i know exactly what the route cause is and why additives dont work. So i was waiting for your response. Now it seams to make sense. ( note the following is just my opinion and should be taken as nothing more )

    What we know:

    The new oil scrapper rings were redesigned to allow freeer passage of returned oil back through the oil control rings and not get carboned up and blocked with the old ring design. This was accomplished by a 3 part ring system and pistons with slightly larger and maybe even more holes drilled in the piston for oil to pass through. ( I will will check mine and verify this. )
    the main reason any additives dont work is because the carboned up oil that blocks the rings is basically like concrete and nothing can dissolve it in this very harsh environment and you are trying to dissolve something hard as rock that needs to be arguable the most lubricated part in the engine. Can you imagine a solution so caustic it will dissolve hardened carbon yet not interfere with lubrication properties ? this is the challenge.

    We also know engine rebuilds fix 90-95% of the oil consumption issue , maybe even more. ( Based on data we have from this site and a few others i have investigated). What we discovered is the engines this does not resolve the oil burning in . Or the engines it does resolve the oil burning in , only to have it return later down the road is due to one unanimous thing. " bore scoring".

    It is unknown at this point i what causes the bore scoring in just a few engines, is it because they honed during rebuild and shouldn't have ? because they didnt and they should have ? tech error , defective parts ? just luck of the draw ? but the bore scoring does seem to be very consistent with engines where oil burning returns after a rebuild.

    I would surmise that engine oil additives for "older engines" and "high mileage engines" do in fact work, at sealing small channels where oil escapes and thicken the properties under certain conditions,which is typical of older high mileage engines. ( which would cover a certain amount of bore scoring. ) and thus reducing oil usage in those engines.

    All that said i think trying it is definitely worth it as a rebuild is a crazy investment for cars like ours that have depreciated so much , only a few idiots are stupid enough to try it at home :).

    Any data is good data and it will either prove the rule or make us think about this more.
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    Well humble mechanic said that the reason the oil burning issues differed between the longitudinal and transverse engines was that the longitudinal engines used a slightly oval piston. That never made any sense to me why they would do that. I've seen in other engines, Nissan's for instance that the use of low tension rings causes crazy oil burning issues and the fix it is to change to more traditional higher tension rings at the sacrifice of efficiency. I have no doubt that if my car was burning 2-3 quarts between oil changes the engine restore would have done absolutely nothing to correct that. I was burning about 1 quart every 5000 miles before starting the oil treatment, and it dropped by about half now between oil changes. Which is a noticeable difference for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32 View Post
    Well humble mechanic said that the reason the oil burning issues differed between the longitudinal and transverse engines was that the longitudinal engines used a slightly oval piston. That never made any sense to me why they would do that. I've seen in other engines, Nissan's for instance that the use of low tension rings causes crazy oil burning issues and the fix it is to change to more traditional higher tension rings at the sacrifice of efficiency. I have no doubt that if my car was burning 2-3 quarts between oil changes the engine restore would have done absolutely nothing to correct that. I was burning about 1 quart every 5000 miles before starting the oil treatment, and it dropped by about half now between oil changes. Which is a noticeable difference for me.
    do you have to keep adding it ? or was it the type of thing it helped your problem and now your car burns less?
    i'm just wondering if i is changing the properties of the oil so it is not burning ? or has it resolved some of the issue.

    sounds like it is definitely working for you .
    makes me wonder whatever happened to Lucas engine treatment and Slick 50 before that. I think people figured out it was just cheaper to put oil in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theiceman View Post
    do you have to keep adding it ? or was it the type of thing it helped your problem and now your car burns less?
    i'm just wondering if i is changing the properties of the oil so it is not burning ? or has it resolved some of the issue.
    I initially thought that I did but I found various other oil leaks from seals and such that I think were contributing to my issues. I also noticed that 5w40 oil does not cause me nearly as much grief with oil consumption compared to thinner oils like 5w30 or even 0w40 for that matter. For the last year ive been doing it every other oil change and no discernible difference between with or without. The next few oil changes I am going to go without it and see how it does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32 View Post
    I initially thought that I did but I found various other oil leaks from seals and such that I think were contributing to my issues. I also noticed that 5w40 oil does not cause me nearly as much grief with oil consumption compared to thinner oils like 5w30 or even 0w40 for that matter. For the last year ive been doing it every other oil change and no discernible difference between with or without. The next few oil changes I am going to go without it and see how it does.
    that would be very good info.
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    OH wow. i did an oil change like 1500miles ago. so do i have to put fresh new oil to do the engine restore or can i just pour it in?
    Quote Originally Posted by Spawne32 View Post
    My engine was rebuilt at 60k but it still suffered from oil consumption after the rebuild. 5w40 oil and engine restore cut that consumption in half. Its not a miracle cure but I can honestly say it works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji16 View Post
    OH wow. i did an oil change like 1500miles ago. so do i have to put fresh new oil to do the engine restore or can i just pour it in?

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    You can just pour it in, they make it in cans sized specifically for 4 cylinders.

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    interesting. i womder how many people actually dont do the piston job and just live with the car like this hm.
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    You can just pour it in, they make it in cans sized specifically for 4 cylinders.
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    I added engine Restore at a whooping $11. let's see how this product behaves did my research and people seem to love the product more then their own wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji16 View Post
    I added engine Restore at a whooping $11. let's see how this product behaves did my research and people seem to love the product more then their own wife.

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    I hope you have had the car long enough to develop a good baseline.
    The hard part will be observer bias. Showing good data without being swayed by what you want the outcome to be..

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    Check out project farms review on youtube. He does some good real world testing.

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    seems like that little thing actually works. i might wanna try it as well
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    Check out project farms review on youtube. He does some good real world testing.
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    Just a heads up a guy on Youtube changed the pistons with kolbenshmidt 21 mm wrist pin part number 06h107065AM on an Audi A4 with the CAEB engine and did not use rods. used his stock rods with the new pistons and this is what he said screenshot below.Screenshot_20200512-171030.jpegScreenshot_20200512-171415.jpeg
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